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George Orwell

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Apr 4, 2006, 11:35:06 AM4/4/06
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> > I am looking at opening a Sushi restaurant
[...]
> Piece of advice, probably don't.

I don't know the current stats, but quite a few years back, it was
something like "80% of new restaurants fail within the first two
years" (for many DIFFERENT reasons). I think that was the national
average, not for a specific city or region or demographic or cuisine.
(Is there a banker / loan officer in a.f.s? Got any new numbers for
us?)

Such stats do not deter everyone or we'd have no new restaurants at
all. However, it does suggest that you should do a lot of
homework and careful planning.

For guidance, check out, join and read the literature from:

National Restaurant Assn,
Japanese Restaurant Association, www.jrasc.com (or similar in your area)
and other organizations that I can't think of at the moment.

Other recommendations: Get one of those neat-o sushi robots and a
long, slinky electric conveyer belt to move the sushi plates around
the whole place. And HOT waitresses!

NeedforSwede2

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Apr 4, 2006, 11:54:25 AM4/4/06
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In article <789398bea93a0c01...@mixmaster.it>,
nob...@mixmaster.it says...

> I don't know the current stats, but quite a few years back, it was
> something like "80% of new restaurants fail within the first two
> years" (for many DIFFERENT reasons). I think that was the national
> average, not for a specific city or region or demographic or cuisine.
> (Is there a banker / loan officer in a.f.s? Got any new numbers for
> us?)
>
Roughly the same figure for the UK, but I thought it was in the first
year.
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n_cram...@pacbell.net

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Apr 4, 2006, 10:48:27 PM4/4/06
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George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > I am looking at opening a Sushi restaurant
> [...]
> > Piece of advice, probably don't.
>
> I don't know the current stats, but quite a few years back, it was
> something like "80% of new restaurants fail within the first two
> years" (for many DIFFERENT reasons). I think that was the national
> average, not for a specific city or region or demographic or cuisine.
> (Is there a banker / loan officer in a.f.s? Got any new numbers for
> us?)
>
> Such stats do not deter everyone or we'd have no new restaurants at
> all. However, it does suggest that you should do a lot of
> homework and careful planning.

My wife, who is a Master Thai chef, has had two restaurants. My
recommendation, as has been said before: "Location! Location! Location!"


>
> For guidance, check out, join and read the literature from:
>
> National Restaurant Assn,
> Japanese Restaurant Association, www.jrasc.com (or similar in your area)
> and other organizations that I can't think of at the moment.
>
> Other recommendations: Get one of those neat-o sushi robots and a
> long, slinky electric conveyer belt to move the sushi plates around
> the whole place. And HOT waitresses!

I have to mostly disagree. Direct interaction with the Itamae will bring
'em back. HOT waitresses if you're in a College town, otherwise attractive,
attentive and unobtrusive. IMO

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Genki

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May 1, 2006, 9:25:31 AM5/1/06
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n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:

> My wife, who is a Master Thai chef, has had two restaurants. My
> recommendation

Wow you lucky man.

Dan Logcher

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May 1, 2006, 10:55:39 AM5/1/06
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Genki wrote:

Yeah really.. except she doesn't eat sushi.

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Dan

n_cram...@pacbell.net

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May 1, 2006, 4:33:48 PM5/1/06
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But I do! She bought me several nice sashimi pkgs at Mitsuwa in Ko Tokyo
last night, including red cod roe. I'll be posting pics on a.b.f, as I did
with my sushi lunch earlier today.

She doesn't eat beef or lamb, either, but buys 'em for me and knows how I
like my steak. ;-)

Dan Logcher

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May 1, 2006, 7:04:24 PM5/1/06
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n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
> Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Genki wrote:
>>
>>
>>>n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My wife, who is a Master Thai chef, has had two restaurants. My
>>>>recommendation
>>>
>>>Wow you lucky man.
>>
>>Yeah really.. except she doesn't eat sushi.
>
>
> But I do! She bought me several nice sashimi pkgs at Mitsuwa in Ko Tokyo
> last night, including red cod roe. I'll be posting pics on a.b.f, as I did
> with my sushi lunch earlier today.
>
> She doesn't eat beef or lamb, either, but buys 'em for me and knows how I
> like my steak. ;-)

We don't seem to get alt.binaries.food. Any other place you could put it?

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n_cram...@pacbell.net

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May 1, 2006, 9:39:07 PM5/1/06
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Can you get any alt.binaries.* groups? How about alt.binaries.sushi? I'll
put it in my Photo Album if I have to, and if I can remember how! ;-(

Dan Logcher

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May 1, 2006, 10:41:27 PM5/1/06
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n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:

> Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
>>
>>>Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Genki wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My wife, who is a Master Thai chef, has had two restaurants. My
>>>>>>recommendation
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow you lucky man.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah really.. except she doesn't eat sushi.
>>>
>>>But I do! She bought me several nice sashimi pkgs at Mitsuwa in Ko
>>>Tokyo last night, including red cod roe. I'll be posting pics on a.b.f,
>>>as I did with my sushi lunch earlier today.
>>>
>>>She doesn't eat beef or lamb, either, but buys 'em for me and knows how
>>>I like my steak. ;-)
>>
>>We don't seem to get alt.binaries.food. Any other place you could put
>>it?
>
>
> Can you get any alt.binaries.* groups? How about alt.binaries.sushi? I'll
> put it in my Photo Album if I have to, and if I can remember how! ;-(

Nope, no a.b.s. Damn.

--
Dan

n_cram...@pacbell.net

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May 1, 2006, 11:04:29 PM5/1/06
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Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > Dan Logcher <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>n_cram...@pacbell.net wrote:
> >>[ . . . ]

> >>We don't seem to get alt.binaries.food. Any other place you could put
> >>it?
> >
> > Can you get any alt.binaries.* groups? How about alt.binaries.sushi?
> > I'll put it in my Photo Album if I have to, and if I can remember how!
> > ;-(
>
> Nope, no a.b.s. Damn.

OK, ok. They're not all that great, but I figgered out how ta do 'em and
posted them at http://tinyurl.com/oc488

Sushi lunch: I don't usually buy pre-made sushi boxes, but Jun picked this
up at Mitsuwa Market in Little Tokyo last night. Nigiri are tuna (2),
squid, mackeral, shrimp, clam and octopus. Plus half a dozen each tuna and
cucumber rolls, Wasabi and ginger.

Fishes: This is the rest of Jun's haul from Mitsuwa Mkt:

Tarako, 3 pkgs - I'll try some sashimi, fry some, put some in a broth.
(shadow is drunken cameraman)

Lightly salted salmon - I'll try some sashimi, then decide.

Shishamo, 3 pkgs - Jun bought these for Jun. Fair enough!

NeedforSwede2

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May 4, 2006, 5:55:33 PM5/4/06
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In article <20060501232011.122$g...@newsreader.com>,
n_cram...@pacbell.net says...

> Nigiri are tuna (2),
>squid, mackeral, shrimp, clam and octopus. Plus half a dozen each tuna and
>cucumber rolls, Wasabi and ginger.
>
>
OK, don't want to appear rude, but what does a pack with that
variety/size cost in the US.
We get supermarket stuff here, and you get something like 3 Nigiri, 2
maki, and 1 Isomaki. Something like that would cost between £2.00 and
£3.50 prepacked with Wasabi paste and Gari.

n_cram...@pacbell.net

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May 4, 2006, 6:23:31 PM5/4/06
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NeedforSwede2 <carl....@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
> n_cram...@pacbell.net says...
> > Nigiri are tuna (2),
> >squid, mackeral, shrimp, clam and octopus. Plus half a dozen each tuna
> >and cucumber rolls, Wasabi and ginger.
> >
> OK, don't want to appear rude, but what does a pack with that=20

> variety/size cost in the US.
> We get supermarket stuff here, and you get something like 3 Nigiri, 2=20
> maki, and 1 Isomaki. Something like that would cost between =A32.00
> and=20 =A33.50 prepacked with Wasabi paste and Gari.
>
About the same. $5.50, also with Wasabi and Gari. That was at Mitzuwa in
Little Tokyo. I don't know about the (Ralph's) supermarket stuff.

NeedforSwede2

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May 5, 2006, 4:54:42 AM5/5/06
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In article <20060504183945.732$B...@newsreader.com>,
n_cram...@pacbell.net says...

>NeedforSwede2 <carl....@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
>> n_cram...@pacbell.net says...
>> > Nigiri are tuna (2),
>> >squid, mackeral, shrimp, clam and octopus. Plus half a dozen each tuna
>> >and cucumber rolls, Wasabi and ginger.
>> >
>> OK, don't want to appear rude, but what does a pack with that=20
>> variety/size cost in the US.
>> We get supermarket stuff here, and you get something like 3 Nigiri, 2=20
>> maki, and 1 Isomaki. Something like that would cost between =A32.00
>> and=20 =A33.50 prepacked with Wasabi paste and Gari.
>>
>About the same. $5.50, also with Wasabi and Gari. That was at Mitzuwa in
>Little Tokyo. I don't know about the (Ralph's) supermarket stuff.
>
>
Except, you appear to get so much more, with better looking ingredients.
I'm very jealous.
We don't have much in the way of a japanese subculture here.
We have aplenty of chinatown/indian/pakistani areas where the shops are
fantastic, but generally very little japanese. I imagine there are some
specialst sushi websites where I could buy the general Sushi fixing like
Shoyu, Nori and Wasabi etc cheaper and maybe from better brands, but I'm
still going to have to hunt down the fish etc.

n_cram...@pacbell.net

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May 5, 2006, 4:48:29 AM5/5/06
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NeedforSwede2 <carl....@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
> n_cram...@pacbell.net says...
> >NeedforSwede2 <carl....@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:
> >> n_cram...@pacbell.net says...
> >> > Nigiri are tuna (2),
> >> >squid, mackeral, shrimp, clam and octopus. Plus half a dozen each
> >> >tuna and cucumber rolls, Wasabi and ginger.
> >> >
> >> OK, don't want to appear rude, but what does a pack with that=20
> >> variety/size cost in the US.
> >> We get supermarket stuff here, and you get something like 3 Nigiri,
> >> 2=20 maki, and 1 Isomaki. Something like that would cost between
> >> =A32.00 and=20 =A33.50 prepacked with Wasabi paste and Gari.
> >>
> >About the same. $5.50, also with Wasabi and Gari. That was at Mitzuwa in
> >Little Tokyo. I don't know about the (Ralph's) supermarket stuff.
> >
> Except, you appear to get so much more, with better looking ingredients.
> I'm very jealous.
> We don't have much in the way of a japanese subculture here.
> We have aplenty of chinatown/indian/pakistani areas where the shops are
> fantastic, but generally very little japanese. I imagine there are some
> specialst sushi websites where I could buy the general Sushi fixing like
> Shoyu, Nori and Wasabi etc cheaper and maybe from better brands, but I'm
> still going to have to hunt down the fish etc.

I'm in Los Angeles. Wherabouts are you, Carl?

Genki

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May 5, 2006, 8:53:56 AM5/5/06
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You put the pound sterling symbol, are you in London ?

If so, I am originally from London (Living in New York City now) but I
used
to go to several sushi places there. One in Golders Green was the best
one.
The others were in Soho and generally not up to the same caliber as you

average place here. There is a Yo Sushi there in Soho now as well.

Also Wagamama is great and we don't have that in new york. There is a
Republic noodles near my place on Union Square but I don't rate it as
good
as Wagamama.

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