ECB runs too cool. What's wrong?

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Matthew L. Martin

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Jun 9, 2002, 12:44:42 PM6/9/02
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OK, I've gotten enough experience with my ECB to say that I really don't
know how to consistently run it at 220-250. I can get it to go all day
at 190-210, but it takes all day and part of the night to do anything of
any size.

Let me tell you what I've done to get the temperature up.

The charcoal bowl has been modified per the FAQ. It has 8 inch legs and
five 3/8 holes in the bottom. I've done a picnic, two sets of ribs, a 7
lb chicken, three five pound chickens and some trout (over the last
several weeks) with just these modifications. The quality of the results
seems to be fine, but after 12 hours on the smoker, I had to finish the
picnic in the oven. I use large chunks of soaked wood for smoke and wait
until the charcoal is well on before adding one to three chunks.

I cut a circle of expanded metal 11" in diameter to hold the charcoal 1
1/2 inches off the bottom of the bowl. I've set up my spare ECB (I'm
glad I bought two) to allow me to start additional charcoal before
adding it.

I was able to successfully smoke two large, skinless salmon filets
(three layers of romaine lettuce leaves provided an excellent artificial
skin and oil trap) and a five lb turkey breast. I gave the salmon three
hours before declaring victory. After eight hours, I pulled the turkey
in and finished it in the oven.

I noticed that opening the door slightly seems to raise the temperature,
which leads me to believe that I need more fresh air getting to the
charcoal. Opening the door isn't a controllable way to add more air. Any
suggestions as to technique or additional modifications? More holes in
the bottom of the bowl? ...

Matthew

Jack Schidt

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Jun 9, 2002, 2:30:22 PM6/9/02
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"Matthew L. Martin" <mlma...@me.com> wrote in message
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More holes in the bottom might work for you as you've got a great (grate?)
charcoal separation with the expanded metal. That and a top venting device
and you'd have better temp control.

Jack


RonG791721

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Jun 9, 2002, 4:31:54 PM6/9/02
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When I used charcoal in my ecb (I have the electric converter now) I would stir
the coals (Kingsford) every hour and push out the ashes through the 1.5 inch
hole that I made in the middle of the charcoal pan. I would also have to add
hot charcoal about every 1.5-2 hours to keep the temperature up, about 3/4 of a
charcoal chimney would do it. Of course, I cooked over a concrete patio so I
wasn't worried about hot ashes igniting anything! Hope this helps.

Matthew L. Martin

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Jun 9, 2002, 7:01:31 PM6/9/02
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I have a aluminum water heater pan under my ECB more to keep grease off
the patio than for catching embers and such. I think I'll enlarge the
holes from 3/8" to 7/8" a few at a time. That should allow more ash to
fall through and more air to enter.

Thanks,

Matthew

Matthew L. Martin

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Jun 9, 2002, 7:03:54 PM6/9/02
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Jack Schidt wrote:
> "Matthew L. Martin" <mlma...@me.com> wrote in message
> news:3D0385FA...@me.com...
>>
>>I noticed that opening the door slightly seems to raise the temperature,
>>which leads me to believe that I need more fresh air getting to the
>>charcoal. Opening the door isn't a controllable way to add more air. Any
>>suggestions as to technique or additional modifications? More holes in
>>the bottom of the bowl? ...
>>
>
> More holes in the bottom might work for you as you've got a great (grate?)
> charcoal separation with the expanded metal. That and a top venting device
> and you'd have better temp control.

I'm thinking that larger holes (7/8" instead of 3/8") will help, but top
venting might help, too. Any suggestions on how to modify the top?

Matthew

jerryB

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Jun 9, 2002, 7:15:36 PM6/9/02
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Matthew,

I just popped out the temp guage that was in the lid and fashioned an
adjustible damper from the bottom of a small tin can. For the most part I
leave it all the way open during cooking as I don't want the smoke to get
stale.

jerryB


Jack Schidt

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Jun 9, 2002, 10:40:47 PM6/9/02
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"Matthew L. Martin" <mlma...@me.com> wrote in message
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Drill holes in the top in a semicircular array. then fasten a half moon of
sheet metal or a pie tin with a screw at the radius point of your hole
array. Cut the metal so that you have enough to fold a "handle" on it. I
think 1/2" or 5/8" diameter on the holes. It was my next planned
modification to mine before I found money under the pillow and just bought a
new rig.

Jack


Jdhart999

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Jun 14, 2002, 3:15:44 PM6/14/02
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>I have a aluminum water heater pan under my ECB more to keep grease off
>the patio than for catching embers and such. I think I'll enlarge the
>holes from 3/8" to 7/8" a few at a time. That should allow more ash to
>fall through and more air to enter.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Matthew
>

Hi Matthew,

I have an ECB too. I made the same modifications that you mentioned (legs,
charcoal grate, holes in the bottom of the pan) but still wasn't able to get
the temp to stay stable.

Thinking that it wasn't getting enough air, I cut the entire bottom out of the
fire pan leaving only the grate to hold the charcoal. Like you I have a pan
below to catch the ashes and embers that fall through. Even with this it
really didn't seem to keep the temp up or keep it steady. I'm really thinking
that the key is the openings in the top that will allow a "draft" to develop.

All that said, I'm ready to retire the ECB. In an inexpensive manner it allowed
me to find out that I enjoy doing BBQ and let me learn the basics. In the next
few weeks I think I'm going to track down a WSM.

Joanne

Cameron Moore

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Jun 14, 2002, 5:32:20 PM6/14/02
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 12:44:42 -0400, "Matthew L. Martin"
<mlma...@me.com> wrote:

>OK, I've gotten enough experience with my ECB to say that I really don't
>know how to consistently run it at 220-250. I can get it to go all day
>at 190-210, but it takes all day and part of the night to do anything of

>suggestions as to technique or additional modifications? More holes in
>the bottom of the bowl? ...
>
>Matthew


I have been using my ECB for several years now. I have NOT made any
of the modifications. I have an older version that had the hole in
the ash-pan. About the only thing I do different is I don't put water
in the pan; I cover it with foil so it acts as a thermal barrier. It
just takes practice and good 'anticipation' to keep the fire stable.

Cameron

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