Got the message
Shelly
new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd known
my question would have engendered such horrible rage. What are you all
doing here? Do you just sit around waiting for people to ask questions so
you can rip them apart? I'd asked my 15 year old daughter to check for me
to see if I'd gotten any replies, and she got to read every horrible thing
total strangers wrote to her mom.
Happy Mother's Day, I'm out of here...
Shelly
care which newbie got the warm welcome I was referring to.
Miles
Shelly wrote:
> OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do something
> new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd known
> my question would have engendered such horrible rage.
Welcome to alt.food.barbecue! Most here are pretty nice but a few have
blinders on...read obession. Ignore those few and stick around. The
rest will offer great help, good conversation and some great ideas for
good eats!
bbq
Shelly,
You got some honest/serious replies and some sarcastic replies as well.
The folks that replied to you are very serious BBQ'ers. And when you
mention parboiling anything before putting on the grill, I suspect it
makes their blood boil.
This is a public board and sometimes folks come here asking about
parboiling, knowing full well that some serious BBQ'er may have a heart
attack. In other words, folks come here to upset people. It is
difficult sometimes to distinguish a true 'newbie' asking a question
from an immature person asking a question simply to get on someone's nerves.
If your serious about learning more about BBQ'ing, please stick around.
I think you will find this a very friendly group to learn from. And
remember, the sarcastic ones offer just as much or more good advice.
BBQ
Susan
alot of folks are mean.........
\
texas
Miles wrote in message <3EBF2282...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com>...
bob...@nospamemt-p.org
>OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do something
>new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd known
>my question would have engendered such horrible rage. What are you all
>doing here? Do you just sit around waiting for people to ask questions so
>you can rip them apart?
As Miles said, there's plenty of friendly folks/conversation here.
There are a few who have taken BBQ to the religious level. Still, to
their defense (at least a little), this group routinely gets trolled
by people who essentially say the same thing as you did. Add that many
of even the friendly folks at AFB, find themselves designated whipping
boys over on rec.food.cooking, where you're likely to see abuse
regarding any question, or statement.
Since you mentioned being a newbie, go ahead and check out the FAQ,
http://www.bbq-porch.org/faq/default.asp . You'll find a lot of useful
information.
Good luck and enjoy. Happy mother's day.
Bob
Miles
bbq wrote:
>
> Shelly,
> This is a public board and sometimes folks come here asking about
> parboiling, knowing full well that some serious BBQ'er may have a heart
> attack.
Obsession often prevents people from engaging in meaningfull dialog
except with others equally as obsessed.
> In other words, folks come here to upset people.
Only people with blinders on get upset. The rest either ignore, or post
a helpfull reply. IOW's, why feed the trolls? That would be doing
exactly what they want.
Dave Bugg
Miles, you don't know enough to comment on anything 'Q related. You seem
more interested in critiquing the social interaction of others rather than
focusing on anything related to BBQ. You find our "obsession" to be a bad
thing, rather than as a sign of serious artists taking the art of cooking
barbecue seriously. This clearly demonstrates just how out of place you are
here; mediocrity -- and worse -- is acceptable to you. You would rather see
us shoot for the lowest, rather than the highest common denominator. Go to
rec.food.cooking where your kind exists in droves.
And in keeping with Mother's Day (Pacific Daylight Time), why don't you
engage your mum in a "meaningfull (sic) dialog (sic)" about what the hell
she was thinking when she allowed yer daddy to hump her when the time for
your conception rolled around.
--
Dave
Spud
> she was thinking when she allowed yer daddy to hump her when the time for
> your conception rolled around.
> --
> Dave
>
>
>to see if I'd gotten any replies, and she got to read every horrible thing
>total strangers wrote to her mom.
>Happy Mother's Day, I'm out of here...
Good example Bugg.
Jack Schidt
"Shelly" <N...@email.com> wrote in message news:3ebf...@cvc2.cvc.net...
Sorry, we get trolled a lot.
Jack
Jack Schidt
> care which newbie got the warm welcome I was referring to.
>
>
>
check this site out: http://www.bbq-porch.org/faq.asp
Best compendium of bbq info on the net.
Jack
Miles
Jack Schidt wrote:
> Sorry, we get trolled a lot.
>
The better response would be to ignore them rather than feed them with
exactly what they want. All NG's get trolled. It isn't unique to this
one. Nor is the response of the so called 'respectable' regulars.
Ironically the worst foul mouthed name calling rants come from those
regulars and not the trolls.
N. Zitney
had to read thru their tripe. There are a lot of us here that are really
very nice types. And there are the wiseasses who had probably been tipping
whilst smoking, hence their stupidity. Please don't give up on the group,
there is lots of sage smoking advice here. We've learned much from the
group in the past years and continue to learn. If I can help with any
questions about the process I will be more than happy to. Just email me.
Sincerely,
Nan Zitney
"Shelly" <N...@email.com> wrote in message news:3ebf...@cvc2.cvc.net...
JaKe
Shelly, now is the time to learn how to filter out certain cretins.
Once that's done you're pretty safe from the trolls.
--
JaKe, Seattle
BOB
news:3EBF9F0B...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com
this coming from a self proclaimed troll
Kevin S. Wilson
<mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote:
>Welcome to alt.food.barbecue! Most here are pretty nice but a few have
>blinders on...read obession. Ignore those few and stick around. The
>rest will offer great help, good conversation and some great ideas for
>good eats!
And you've been here how long?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:
That word you keep using. I don't think it means what you think it
means.
Would you and Miles go look up the Usenet definition of troll and
trolling before you start issuing advice on the subject?
HINT: A troll isn't the same thing as a meany-head.
Kevin S. Wilson
Anyone who allows a 15-year-old to access Usenet gets exactly what she
deserves.
Dave Bugg
>> I'd asked my 15 year old daughter to check for me
>> to see if I'd gotten any replies, and she got to read every horrible
>> thing total strangers wrote to her mom.
>
>> Happy Mother's Day, I'm out of here...
>
>
> Good example Bugg.
Of what? How brainless and stupid any parent would be to allow a child to
check usenet for them? Where have you been, in alt.disney? Ooops, not even
safe there... a buncha real filth shows up from time to time.
--
Dave
Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:
>Hi Shelly, I'm so sorry you were treated so rudely, and that your daughter
>had to read thru their tripe.
Her daughter--if she really exists--didn't have to read anything. She
was reading Usenet at her mother's request. Why her mother thought
that was appropriate or wise is one of life's mysteries.
Monroe, of course...
<mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote:
> bbq wrote:
>
> >
> > Shelly,
> > This is a public board and sometimes folks come here asking about
> > parboiling, knowing full well that some serious BBQ'er may have a heart
> > attack.
>
> Obsession often prevents people from engaging in meaningfull dialog
> except with others equally as obsessed.
Yep but you and other clueless newbies still say the stupidest shit-\
What ever happened to research? Why not use Google for a change?
Our 'Obsession' is exactly what qualifies us to give the sage advice
you dumbfucks seem to need and want but whine on about when it's
given.
FWIW i don't think you would know what "meaningfull(sic) dialog (also
sic)" was if it hit you in the ass.
> > In other words, folks come here to upset people.
>
> Only people with blinders on get upset. The rest either ignore, or post
> a helpfull reply. IOW's, why feed the trolls? That would be doing
> exactly what they want.
The troll talks about trolls. that's rich.
point your blinders this way ok? <flies bird - both hands>
monroe(wish you'd ignore afb thats for sure)
Monroe, of course...
Wilson <res...@spro.net> wrote:
> Anyone who allows a 15-year-old to access Usenet gets exactly what she
> deserves.
Agreed. Kiddo should (or could've) check out five newsgroups up (at
leas my list) to see alt.fondle.vomit.....a real rockin place.
Come to think of it - that's where talk of parboiled chicken would
belong and be right on topic.
monroe(bleaaaaarugh)
Monroe, of course...
Wilson <res...@spro.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:26:42 -0700, Miles
> <mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Welcome to alt.food.barbecue! Most here are pretty nice but a few have
> >blinders on...read obession. Ignore those few and stick around. The
> >rest will offer great help, good conversation and some great ideas for
> >good eats!
>
> And you've been here how long?
>
Mee-lesh helped invent Usenet back in the 1940's didn't you know?
monroe(amazed at the apologists)
milesh
"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
> Would you and Miles go look up the Usenet definition of troll and
> trolling before you start issuing advice on the subject?
>
> HINT: A troll isn't the same thing as a meany-head.
I never called anyone here a troll. The ranting regulars did. Whatever suits ya.
milesh
"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
> Anyone who allows a 15-year-old to access Usenet gets exactly what she
> deserves.
>
Well, I have to agree with ya there to an extent. But thats not a very good
reason to spew that kind of crap in the 1st place. Sounds like the old well
everyone else does line.
milesh
"Monroe, of course..." wrote:
> > Obsession often prevents people from engaging in meaningfull dialog
> > except with others equally as obsessed.
>
> Our 'Obsession' is exactly what qualifies us to give the sage advice
> you dumbfucks seem to need and want but whine on about when it's
> given.
Qualifies??? Your ranting dialog is only usefull to the few obessed and the
cronies that follow them. Call yourself a respected regular for a bit of
knowledge on the subject perhaps, but arrogant as can be when you turn around
and flame anyone that asks a simple albient newbie question. Sorry, that
action does not get the respectable title except by the obsessed. Knowledge is
useless if you can't use it without ranting and flaming. Whatever suits ya.
BOB
news:3EBFEAB7...@interfaceforce.com
But, Miles, or milesh, or tecwiz or who-ever you are today, you seem to
enjoy the thrashing or else you would quit arguing with those who know more
about the subject than you will ever know.
BOB
milesh
"Monroe, of course..." wrote:
> > And you've been here how long?
> >
> Mee-lesh helped invent Usenet back in the 1940's didn't you know?
>
LOL...nah, that was Gore. 1980's is more like it for the NG's I was in back
then. But Tom Jennings invented that network not me. If you do not know who
he is, then you have not been around NG's as long as I have.
Cuchulain Libby
"Miles" <mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote
> The better response would be to ignore them rather than feed them with
> exactly what they want.
We, the individual we in this case, get to determine how exactly we play in
this ng. You wanna dump on us when we play with our monkeys rather than the
monkeys themselves, well you gotta look at yerself in the dim glare of the
ol' CRT.
-Hound
Cuchulain Libby
"milesh" <mil...@interfaceforce.com> wrote
> LOL...nah, that was Gore. 1980's is more like it for the NG's I was in
back
> then.
Eh?, I thought you said that the 80's were a precursor to Usenet. Which is
it?
-Hound
Dave Bugg
> Qualifies??? Your ranting dialog is only usefull to the few obessed
> and the cronies that follow them. Call yourself a respected regular
> for a bit of knowledge on the subject perhaps, but arrogant as can be
> when you turn around and flame anyone that asks a simple albient
> newbie question. Sorry, that action does not get the respectable
> title except by the obsessed. Knowledge is useless if you can't use
> it without ranting and flaming. Whatever suits ya.
This is the same pig's anus who turned his newbie introduction into a
downward slide, by claiming that he objected to the politically correct 'Q
police. And yet this pre-ejaculate dribble, aka Milesh da Wad, has done
nothing but whine about how *our* behavior should fall in-line with his
perception of how communication should proceed. Talk about da PC Police.
--
Dave
milesh
Cuchulain Libby wrote:
>
> We, the individual we in this case, get to determine how exactly we play in
> this ng. You wanna dump on us when we play with our monkeys rather than the
> monkeys themselves, well you gotta look at yerself in the dim glare of the
> ol' CRT.
True, you can act as you wish. The person to which this thread is from was
certainly no monkey...but call them what you may and drive more newbies away
from the hobby. Good move.
milesh
Cuchulain Libby wrote:
>
> Eh?, I thought you said that the 80's were a precursor to Usenet. Which is
> it?
The internet itself was not publically available back then. There were NG's
though on other networks but I'm sure you already knew that.
Don
I got the samr the first time or two.You just have to remember not
to listen to the bad remark's. There are alot of talented and helpful
people here.
On Sun, 11 May 2003 20:50:45 -0700, "Shelly" <N...@email.com> wrote:
>By the way, I was the one who asked about parboiling chicken, in case you
>care which newbie got the warm welcome I was referring to.
>
>
>
>> OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do something
>> new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd
>known
>> my question would have engendered such horrible rage. What are you all
>> doing here? Do you just sit around waiting for people to ask questions so
>> you can rip them apart? I'd asked my 15 year old daughter to check for me
BOB
Ah,yes...all this coming from the most recent reason that this group is
"up-in-arms" and sensitive to trolls spouting in this newsgroup.
Be gone, milesh/miles/techwiz troll
BOB
Miranda Writes, Devil's Advocate
I've been lurking rather than posting lately , but I have to say I never
knew usenet-wanking
actually made noises which were audible through my monitor until little
Milesh appeared here.
Thwap thwap thwap.
Miranda
The Barbecue Widow
milesh
Ahh, I see Dave's still spewing his crap and has his cronies who follow along
in stride.
mike
Don wrote:
>
> Shelley
> I got the samr the first time or two.You just have to remember not
> to listen to the bad remark's. There are alot of talented and helpful
> people here.
And they tend to share quite a bit of info (at thier own speed of course).
I have learned quite a lot (THANKS ALL) by lurking here for a few months.
--
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
president, or that we are to stand by the president
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-President Teddy Roosevelt
BOB
> , "Dave Bugg" <dbuggatcharterdotnet> wrote:
>
>> milesh wrote:
>>> Qualifies??? Your ranting dialog is only usefull to the few obessed
>>> and the cronies that follow them. Call yourself a respected regular
>>> for a bit of knowledge on the subject perhaps, but arrogant as can
>>> be when you turn around and flame anyone that asks a simple albient
>>> newbie question. Sorry, that action does not get the respectable
>>> title except by the obsessed. Knowledge is useless if you can't use
>>> it without ranting and flaming. Whatever suits ya.
>>
>> This is the same pig's anus who turned his newbie introduction into a
>> downward slide, by claiming that he objected to the politically
>> correct 'Q police. And yet this pre-ejaculate dribble, aka Milesh da
>> Wad, has done nothing but whine about how *our* behavior should fall
>> in-line with his perception of how communication should proceed.
>> Talk about da PC Police. --
>> Dave
>
> I've been lurking rather than posting lately,
We've been wondering where you were. But, I guess we all knew you were OK,
else we would have heard, of course...
> but I have to say I
> never knew usenet-wanking
> actually made noises which were audible through my monitor until
> little Milesh appeared here.
> Thwap thwap thwap.
>
> Miranda
> The Barbecue Widow
LOL, Now, that's funny!
BOB
who grilled a couple of 'chops for dinner today.
Monroe, of course...
<mil...@interfaceforce.com> wrote:
Meee-lesh- some noobs are too stupid to even be playing with fire in
the first place. We're doing a favor to these folks .
Now whyncha do <me> a favor and go blow a goat?
monroe(acting like i wish you'd FOAD)
Monroe, of course...
<mil...@interfaceforce.com> wrote:
Riddle me this-do we really CARE?
You're putting me to sleep....
monroe(this is REAL on topic aint it)
Monroe, of course...
<mil...@interfaceforce.com> wrote:
See? more thwapping....
monroe(ZZZZZZ)
Steve Wertz
>True, you can act as you wish. The person to which this thread is from was
>certainly no monkey...but call them what you may and drive more newbies away
>from the hobby.
Just how any do you suspect we've driven away from BBQ'ing and
grilling?
-sw
Dave Bugg
> I've been lurking rather than posting lately , but I have to say I
> never knew usenet-wanking
> actually made noises which were audible through my monitor until
> little Milesh appeared here.
> Thwap thwap thwap.
>
> Miranda
> The Barbecue Widow
ROTFLOL.... Gawd, Miranda, I nearly popped a gut on that one. (Best laugh of
the day)
--
Dave
Dave Bugg
> Meee-lesh- some noobs are too stupid to even be playing with fire in
> the first place. We're doing a favor to these folks .
> Now whyncha do <me> a favor and go blow a goat?
Prolly cause he's such an idiot that he wouldn't know which end to engage.
--
Dave
Dave Bugg
> Ahh, I see Dave's still spewing his crap and has his cronies who
> follow along in stride.
Now that's the spirit, Milesh; a bit anemic with the flame, but I'll give ya
a 1.5 for trying.
--
Dave
Jack Curry
Sherlock Holmes you ain't. Nobody loves ya an yer mamma dresses ya funny.
And most important, nobody believes/and/or cares about how long you been on
Usenet.
Go back to disney.disneyland and play with the cartoons and yer pal Bhrigga.
Jack Curry
Rich
Just kill file the jerk as i already have.
Highlight the message then go to message, block sender. It is very
satisfying. :)
Good luck on your future BBQ.
Rich
"Shelly" <N...@email.com> wrote in message news:3ebf...@cvc2.cvc.net...
Miles
Jack Curry wrote:
> milesh-ithead Miles-hithead, don't you feel unwelcome here yet?
> Sherlock Holmes you ain't. Nobody loves ya an yer mamma dresses ya funny.
> And most important, nobody believes/and/or cares about how long you been on
> Usenet.
Nope, not at all. Lots of good folks here. Just a few whiners like
most NG's have. Extremely predictable. Originality is not your forte.
Miles
Monroe, of course... wrote:
> Now whyncha do <me> a favor and go blow a goat?
***YAWN*** Too predictable.
goa...@leavemealone.com.toolost
nasty(must have missed the one jerk).you have to understand that
by posting a Ques. your going to get some undesirable replies sometimes,
possibly by simply misunderstanding the post.
with that said , I do have to say that I would not let my 15yr girl play with Usenet.
NO MATTER WHAT GROUP!!!!!!
Miles
Monroe, of course... wrote:
>>Cuchulain Libby wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eh?, I thought you said that the 80's were a precursor to Usenet. Which is
>>>it?
>>
>>The internet itself was not publically available back then. There were NG's
>>though on other networks but I'm sure you already knew that.
>
>
> Riddle me this-do we really CARE?
We??? Dunno...but Cuch does...he/she asked.
BOB
news:3EC03DF5...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com
HUH?
You've flamed everyone that I'd consider the more BBQ savvy. Oh, wait, you
don't use the same definition that this group does.
BOB
Steve Wertz
>By the way, I was the one who asked about parboiling chicken, in case you
>care which newbie got the warm welcome I was referring to.
I've tried to stay out of this, but I still think you're a troll.
You posted one "test' message to rec.food.cooking a day earlier, and
then you somehow manage to jump right into the fire here of a.f.b, and
mention 'parboiling'. Of all the other words you could have used,
like 'blanching', you specifically chose that other word.
Furthermore, posting a 'test' message to r.f.c kinda makes you out to
be an newbie. PLus you despammed your address (which makes you not a
newbie). A newbie would not send their child off to read followups to
your post. I see some inconsistencies here. Call me skeptical.
As as troll here, your work is done. Now time to just sit back and
enjoy your responses.
And as the 'instigator' of the QVC and this/these threads, I'm gonna
go lay low for a while (after my next post that is...)
-sw
Monroe, of course...
<mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote:
So sorry you're bored with goats.
Try a sheep then.
monroe(gotcher mutton swangin)
CSS
reading this group will provide some good info about q'ing, and the "flames"
just end up in the noise level.
Clark
"Susan" <ruple...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:oxFva.5717$Ur1....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> keep your blinders on.
> alot of folks are mean.........
>
> \
> texas
>
>
>
>
>
> Miles wrote in message <3EBF2282...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com>...
> >
> >
> >Shelly wrote:
> >> OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do
something
> >> new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd
> known
> >> my question would have engendered such horrible rage.
> >
> >Welcome to alt.food.barbecue! Most here are pretty nice but a few have
> >blinders on...read obession. Ignore those few and stick around. The
> >rest will offer great help, good conversation and some great ideas for
> >good eats!
> >
>
>
Cuchulain Libby
"Miles" <mi...@huffords.phxjunkmail.com> wrote >
> We??? Dunno...but Cuch does...he/she asked.
>
Well Miles, just to set the record straight;
Few women would have 'Hound' as a handle. It's an inside joke from some
bright fellow on this list. If you don't know the etymology of my surname,
take 3 seconds and find out. Google is your friend, as Kevin is wont to say.
-Hound who thinks Miles isn't allowed the more familiar 'Cuch' just yet
Cuchulain Libby
"Miranda Writes,
> I've been lurking rather than posting lately , but I have to say I never
> knew usenet-wanking
> actually made noises which were audible through my monitor until little
> Milesh appeared here.
> Thwap thwap thwap.
Too funny... Is it the dry sound of saliva or the more lugubrious sound of
some lotion?
Yer sick, wanna go out and eat ribs nekkid by the light of the moon? Just
you me and Fat Man...and a keg... and some whiskey.. and my labs...
-Hound
Miles
Cuchulain Libby wrote:
> Well Miles, just to set the record straight;
> Few women would have 'Hound' as a handle.
Thats true.
Steve Wertz
<cli...@satx.XX.com> wrote:
>Well Miles, just to set the record straight;
>Few women would have 'Hound' as a handle. It's an inside joke from some
>bright fellow on this list. If you don't know the etymology of my surname,
>take 3 seconds and find out. Google is your friend, as Kevin is wont to say.
I could use enlightenment. Several of us always had trouble figuring
what how to address you (and how to pronouce it).
:-)
Actually, my nickname is Beaver, but that didn't go over too well
afetr I turned 13 and started using a CB radio. I had big front
teeth.
-sw
Cuchulain Libby
"Steve Wertz" <swe...@upintheair.com> wrote
> I could use enlightenment. Several of us always had trouble figuring
> what how to address you (and how to pronouce it).
Cu (Hound) Chulain [of] (Cullen) I pronounce the 2nd 'C'
silently...KooHULLin. But then I know four ways to pronounce it.
-Hound whose parents were Hippie Precursors iow my folks sold hippie clothes
and dope pipes to hippies
tecwhiz
"Steve Wertz" <swe...@upintheair.com> wrote in message
news:cgh0cvks5gb1j2i84...@4ax.com...
Duwop
> "Steve Wertz" <swe...@upintheair.com> wrote
> > I could use enlightenment. Several of us always had trouble figuring
> > what how to address you (and how to pronouce it).
>
>
Oh, of course, just like Ychwanegiadau Diwaddaraf is pronounced "Kent". Got it.
<BG>
For some great examples of why Celtic is a dead language:
http://www.cymru.gov.uk/index.htm
D
Kevin S. Wilson
>
>
>"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
>>
>> Would you and Miles go look up the Usenet definition of troll and
>> trolling before you start issuing advice on the subject?
>>
>> HINT: A troll isn't the same thing as a meany-head.
>
>I never called anyone here a troll. The ranting regulars did. Whatever suits ya.
Never said you did, Chuckles.
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile."
--Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology
tc
Bingo. Mr. Shelly is a troll for the simple fact that nobody parboils bbq
chicken. No one. Nobody does it, no recipe calls for it. But I must
congratulate him for his beautiful trolling, I can't believe how many
morons fell for his "oh I'm a 30 year old woman who has never barbecued
before in my life and has a 15 year old daughter reading my email for me".
Howard R. Bricker
>
>
> Jack Curry wrote:
> > milesh-ithead Miles-hithead, don't you feel unwelcome here
> Nope, not at all. Lots of good folks here. Just a few whiners like
> most NG's have. Extremely predictable. Originality is not your
forte.
>
Now I'm all depressed. I have no idea if I'm a whiner or one of the
good folk.
The Bricker said that
Monroe, of course...
<hrbr...@direcway.com> wrote:
> Now I'm all depressed. I have no idea if I'm a whiner or one of the
> good folk.
>
Look deep in your heart..uh and consult with the Force...and answer a
few surveys in Cosmo.
You'll figure it out.
monroe(thumbsup vote))
The Fat Man®²°°³
> Bingo. Mr. Shelly is a troll for the simple fact that nobody parboils
> bbq chicken. No one. Nobody does it, no recipe calls for it. But I
> must congratulate him for his beautiful trolling, I can't believe how
> many morons fell for his "oh I'm a 30 year old woman who has never
> barbecued before in my life and has a 15 year old daughter reading my
> email for me".
Lemme slip this one in;
I was at the girlfriend's mother's house a year or so ago and we were
having a bonfire. (and liquid refreshments)
The fire was 100% cherry wood, and the old folks had a slightly used
brinkmann grill. Built like a NBBD, but no firebox.
There was chicken meat in the fridge and folks were gettin' hungry, so I
thought I'd give 'em a taste of some good eats if I could get the 3
aforementioned items together.
I made the motion, it was seconded, and I commenced to shoveling cherry
coals into the little cooker.
Once I got it ready, I went in after the bird parts and 'bout fell on my
face when I saw the old woman done had 'em in a pot just starting to boil.
I said, "What the Hell you doing?!?!? I was gonna BBQ that for ya!"
"I know." She said. "You're supposed to boil it before you grill it."
Anyhow it had just gotten warm. I dumped the pot and properly finished the
chicken. They were mighty impressed, but I'll bet you $50 they still boil
chicken before grillin' it and slathering it with Kraft.
Sometimes folks just do it that way and you can't do nothin' about it but
show 'em what's good every now and then.
--
The Fat Man® ²°°³
------------------------------------------------------------
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go to waste! Send it to: The_Ou...@topica.com
Sid
> chicken before grillin' it and slathering it with Kraft.
Yep, that was the way it was done in our house growing up also.
We keep an eye on the chicken even now when Mom says she has
chicken to grill.
Dave Thompson
> care which newbie got the warm welcome I was referring to.
I got a similar response from the same couple of jerks for asking a simple
question also. For some reason there are a few insecure adolescents in this
group who's ego depends on their feeling better than everyone else. The rest
are good people and I hope that you got some good advice in spite of the
jerks.
At least now you know whose food not to eat and whose advice not to take.
How good can they be if that is what they have to resort to.
>
>
>
> > OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do something
> > new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd
> known
Dave Thompson
"bbq" <b...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:3EBF2550...@nospam.com...
>
>
> Shelly wrote:
> > OK, I got the message. I was not trolling, I was trying to do something
> > new. I am terribly sorry to have bothered you. I just wish that I'd
known
> > my question would have engendered such horrible rage. What are you all
> > doing here? Do you just sit around waiting for people to ask questions
so
> > you can rip them apart? I'd asked my 15 year old daughter to check for
me
> > to see if I'd gotten any replies, and she got to read every horrible
thing
> > total strangers wrote to her mom.
> >
> > Happy Mother's Day, I'm out of here...
> >
> >
>
>
> You got some honest/serious replies and some sarcastic replies as well.
> The folks that replied to you are very serious BBQ'ers. And when you
> mention parboiling anything before putting on the grill, I suspect it
> makes their blood boil.
The problem being that you would have to be equally in the know to poke fun
of someone's obsession. I suspect that's quite rare compared to all the
innocent unwashed who just don't know. To assume that more than a handfull
of people would know or care that parboiling makes Q'ers mad is
unreasonable.
>
> This is a public board and sometimes folks come here asking about
> parboiling, knowing full well that some serious BBQ'er may have a heart
> attack. In other words, folks come here to upset people. It is
> difficult sometimes to distinguish a true 'newbie' asking a question
> from an immature person asking a question simply to get on someone's
nerves.
>
> If your serious about learning more about BBQ'ing, please stick around.
> I think you will find this a very friendly group to learn from. And
> remember, the sarcastic ones offer just as much or more good advice.
>
> BBQ
>
Monroe, of course...
<dav1...@wdmdx1.com> wrote:
> The problem being that you would have to be equally in the know to poke fun
> of someone's obsession. I suspect that's quite rare compared to all the
> innocent unwashed who just don't know. To assume that more than a handfull
> of people would know or care that parboiling makes Q'ers mad is
> unreasonable.
>
Ok - One more try at the "why".
Google up 'alt.food.barbecue' and 'parboiling'.
I only got 270 some odd hits - you could read through all of them in a
short day.
Look for all the glowing endorsements for this timehonored cooking
method. You won't find them - instead you will find numerous posts as
to why you don't want to parboil. And you'll find a lot of Moosmeat
mentioned.
Oddly enoughyou will see - some of these hits are actually from the
rec.food.cooking newsgroup and state how posting about parboiling on
alt.food.barbecue would get you your ass handed to you on a plate.
All it takes is a little bit of research and a little bit of common
sense.
Newbies who did this research and benefitted nothing from it,I would
say, lack something in the between-the-ears department.
That's called stupid.
Newbies who did not do this research lack in the effort department.
That's called lazy.
It's 'not knowing' and 'not caring' lumped together.
I, for one, feel that the unmotivated and the ignorant get what they
have coming to them for being lazy and stupid. It's payback for wasting
our time when they get their innocent unwashed feelings hurt.
monroe(freshly scrubbed and guilty)
milesh
"Monroe, of course..." wrote:
> Ok - One more try at the "why".
Sigh...all that dribble is no excuse for flaming. What does it solve? Start
another flaming thread? It's far easier to nicely bring them up to speed and
thus further the expansion of bbq rather than make it a cult activity.
The Fat Man®²°°³
How good can they be if that is what they have to resort to.
Insecurity and adolescence have *nothing* to do with cooking ability.
TFM®
Dave Thompson
"The Fat Man®²°°³" <horn...@niggapleaze.net> wrote in message
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> Dave Thompson wrote:
>
>
> How good can they be if that is what they have to resort to.
>
>
> Insecurity and adolescence have *nothing* to do with cooking ability.
They have to do with credibility, and from what I recall you are one of the
most insecure and adolescent. Your replies were pathetic and stupid.
No wonder you are defending bad behavior. You are one of the biggest jerks
of the bunch.
And if you don't like where you've been placed, clean up your act.
And stuff your own recipes up your ass.
The Fat Man®²°°³
I'll stuff a boot up *your* ass if you ever have the misfortune of meeting
me in person, fat boy.
What do you mean, "one of the biggest jerks"?
If I'm not *the* biggest jerk, who is?
Monroe, of course...
<horn...@niggapleaze.net> wrote:
<snip DTspew>
> I'll stuff a boot up *your* ass if you ever have the misfortune of meeting
> me in person, fat boy.
>
> What do you mean, "one of the biggest jerks"?
> If I'm not *the* biggest jerk, who is?
Careful- looks like DT's comin after your title.
monroe(WWF @AFB)
JD
> Dave Thompson wrote:
>> news:vc8f3bq...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Dave Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> How good can they be if that is what they have to resort to.
>>>
>>>
>>> Insecurity and adolescence have *nothing* to do with cooking
>>> ability.
>>
>> They have to do with credibility, and from what I recall you are one
>> of the most insecure and adolescent. Your replies were pathetic and
>> stupid.
>>
>> No wonder you are defending bad behavior. You are one of the biggest
>> jerks of the bunch.
>>
>> And if you don't like where you've been placed, clean up your act.
>>
>> And stuff your own recipes up your ass.
>
>
> I'll stuff a boot up *your* ass if you ever have the misfortune of
> meeting me in person, fat boy.
>
> What do you mean, "one of the biggest jerks"?
> If I'm not *the* biggest jerk, who is?
So Jack, you gonna tell him to "Quit it"?
JD
Dave Thompson
> Dave Thompson wrote:
> > "The Fat Man®²°°³" <horn...@niggapleaze.net> wrote in message
> > news:vc8f3bq...@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Dave Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> How good can they be if that is what they have to resort to.
> >>
> >>
> >> Insecurity and adolescence have *nothing* to do with cooking ability.
> >
> > They have to do with credibility, and from what I recall you are one
> > of the most insecure and adolescent. Your replies were pathetic and
> > stupid.
> >
> > No wonder you are defending bad behavior. You are one of the biggest
> > jerks of the bunch.
> >
> > And if you don't like where you've been placed, clean up your act.
> >
> > And stuff your own recipes up your ass.
>
>
> I'll stuff a boot up *your* ass if you ever have the misfortune of meeting
> me in person, fat boy.
Really? I'm 6'4" and 280. I doubt I'd have much to worry about.
>
> What do you mean, "one of the biggest jerks"?
> If I'm not *the* biggest jerk, who is?
If you want the honor, you can have it
Cuchulain Libby
"Dave Thompson" <dav1...@wdmdx1.com> wrote
>> And stuff your own recipes up your ass.
So, Usenet credibility isn't something to worry about? In the context of
Usenet, I'd think it was paramount. No one cares how tiny you are, so why
bring it up...
Post a recipe that then becomes a staple. Help a newbie. Come to my place
for FM's B'day in mid-August and I'll let my wife kick yer ass, do any of
these things and we'll give ya the props you so desperately lack.
-Hound
Jack Curry
> So Jack, you gonna tell him to "Quit it"?
>
> JD
Yep.
Quit it.
My first "Quit it" was not directed at you alone, JD, despite the fact that
it appeared in response to your post.
And as we all know, I'm not the moderator.
Jack
JD
Damn, I thought you were talking to Kevin.
JD
Trex
"JD" <jdb...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Jack Curry
Dave Thompson
"Cuchulain Libby" <cli...@satx.XX.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Thompson" <dav1...@wdmdx1.com> wrote
> >> And stuff your own recipes up your ass.
> > Really? I'm 6'4" and 280. I doubt I'd have much to worry about.
>
> So, Usenet credibility isn't something to worry about? In the context of
> Usenet, I'd think it was paramount. No one cares how tiny you are, so why
> bring it up...
I'll tell you why, if you are blind - because that asshole threatened me. So
you are going to give him a pass for telling me he was going to kick my ass
but hold me accountable for telling him to get bent? Maybe you should get a
good understanding of why I said what I did before you criticize me.
> Post a recipe that then becomes a staple. Help a newbie.
I did. I told them to ignore Fatass and pay attention to those that are
patient and respectfull. He was incredibly rude for no reason to the
original poster. If he has proof he was in the right he can present it.
Come to my place
> for FM's B'day in mid-August and I'll let my wife kick yer ass, do any of
> these things and we'll give ya the props you so desperately lack.
First, I neither want or require the "props" of an ignorant jerk (or
anybody) that needs to feel superior by insulting someone for asking an
innocent question.
Second, if you defend that asshole I wouldn't eat a can of soup you opened,
suspecting it would be spoiled.
The behavior Fatass and others displayed was inexcusable. If you think I'm
going to back down from this then you can kiss my ass.
The Fat Man®²°°³
> Second, if you defend that asshole I wouldn't eat a can of soup you
> opened, suspecting it would be spoiled.
>
> The behavior Fatass and others displayed was inexcusable. If you
> think I'm going to back down from this then you can kiss my ass.
What is it that's got in your craw fat boy? Are you really that bent out of
shape over some ridiculous posting of mine in response to an even more
ridiculous question about parboiling?
So you're 6'4" and 280. That tells me the only thing you do well is ensure
that the batteries are fresh in the remotes. Dammit boy, I'm 30 lbs
overweight at 220 and 6' even.
I won't really put my boot in your ass. Don't want to ruin a good boot.
I'll make a deal with you. Get off my ass and I won't smack you like a
bitch when and if I ever see you.
--
The Fat Man® ²°°³
813-355-7156
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Mobile email - 81335...@messaging.nextel.com
Dave Thompson
"The Fat Man®²°°³" <horn...@niggapleaze.net> wrote in message
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> Dave Thompson wrote:
>
> > Second, if you defend that asshole I wouldn't eat a can of soup you
> > opened, suspecting it would be spoiled.
> >
> > The behavior Fatass and others displayed was inexcusable. If you
> > think I'm going to back down from this then you can kiss my ass.
>
> What is it that's got in your craw fat boy? Are you really that bent out
of
> shape over some ridiculous posting of mine in response to an even more
> ridiculous question about parboiling?
>
> So you're 6'4" and 280. That tells me the only thing you do well is
ensure
> that the batteries are fresh in the remotes. Dammit boy, I'm 30 lbs
> overweight at 220 and 6' even.
>
> I won't really put my boot in your ass. Don't want to ruin a good boot.
>
> I'll make a deal with you. Get off my ass and I won't smack you like a
> bitch when and if I ever see you.
I'll make you a deal:
You don't tell me you're going to kick my ass and be a little bit more
polite to newcomers and in return I 'll take a pork butt, brine it, kick it
around a bit, smoke it overnight, and call my creation Fat Man's Butt. I'll
even take the leftovers, shred it, and call it Pulled Fat Man's Butt. And
you can do the same in return.
Deal?
JD
Where you gonna find one big enough?<g>
JD
The Fat Man®²°°³
I don't know why anybody'd want to brine a butt, but go right ahead if it
makes you feel good.
I generally *am* nice *and* helpful to newcomers. If somebody comes asking
about certain things that are known to incense some of us purists, I'm
liable to slip.
At any rate, let's let this bickering end. And please don't name a butt
after me.
N. Zitney
the time when we were camping. We did it to save time on the wood and /or
charcoal fire out in the woods and to make damn sure it was done. Then we
slathered it with BBq sauce and browned it up on the wood and/or charcoal
fire. This was common practice then(20 yrs ago) to save on charcoal and
to save time when there were hungry kids looking for dinner.
Nanzi
"tc" <calvinus15...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Jack Schidt
>
> At any rate, let's let this bickering end. And please don't name a butt
> after me.
>
You've already got a brine named after you. There's a one name per item
limit here, buster.
Jack
Jack Sloan
"N. Zitney" <na...@delaware.net> wrote in message
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> Your 'Nobody does it' on the parboiling is pure crap. I used to do it all
> the time when we were camping. We did it to save time on the wood and /or
Another example ...I went to visit my brother in Cal. We were invited to a
friend's house for bbq ribs. "he really can do good ribs" says my brother.
We get over there and the guy is boiling the ribs for an hour and finishes
them up in the oven and swabs 'em insauce and everybody raves about the
fantastic ribs.
Actually they were edible.
Jack (who's still a little pissed about being called a troll)
Jack Schidt
"Jack Sloan" <jqs...@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>
> "N. Zitney" <na...@delaware.net> wrote in message
> news:rlqxa.177$Z24.1...@monger.newsread.com...
> > Your 'Nobody does it' on the parboiling is pure crap. I used to do it
all
> > the time when we were camping. We did it to save time on the wood and
/or
>
> Another example ...I went to visit my brother in Cal. We were invited to a
> friend's house for bbq ribs. "he really can do good ribs" says my brother.
> We get over there and the guy is boiling the ribs for an hour and finishes
> them up in the oven and swabs 'em insauce and everybody raves about the
> fantastic ribs.
Those poor people....
> Actually they were edible.
Sure, so is Alpo.
> Jack (who's still a little pissed about being called a troll)
You'll get over it ;-P
Jack
>
>