Go easy on that brew guys!
rob
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/12/31/20091231FirePitDeath31-ON.html
Phoenix -- A man in his late 30s was roasting a pig at a family
gathering Wednesday night when he somehow fell into the cylindrical
pit.
It happened on East Kristal Way in North Phoenix.
Despite the fact that the pit was only 3 feet deep, the man was
overcome by the heat and failed to get out.
Neighbors heard his screams for help, but by the time his family got
to him, it was already too late.
A spokesman from the Phoenix Fire Department told CBS 5 News that one
of the victim's friends was so distraught, he had to be transported to
the hospital.
Phoenix police are investigating to see if alcohol may have been a
contributing factor, but at this time, they believe it was just a
horrible accident.
Dave Bugg
> http://www.kpho.com/news/22096015/detail.html
> http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/12/31/20091231FirePitDeath31-ON.html
>
> Phoenix -- A man in his late 30s was roasting a pig at a family
> gathering Wednesday night when he somehow fell into the cylindrical
> pit.
>
> It happened on East Kristal Way in North Phoenix.
>
> Despite the fact that the pit was only 3 feet deep, the man was
> overcome by the heat and failed to get out.
>
> Neighbors heard his screams for help, but by the time his family got
> to him, it was already too late.
That is pretty horrible. I know that after spending hours in a kitchen that
would reach into the high 90s, I would sometimes get a bit woozy unless I
was drinking lots of fluids.
It sounds like this bbq is something that he has done many times before and
was the center of a neighborhood celebration at New Years.
--
Dave
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." -- Conan
David Harmon
<rw...@concentric.net> wrote,
>Phoenix -- A man in his late 30s was roasting a pig at a family
>gathering Wednesday night when he somehow fell into the cylindrical
>pit.
>
>It happened on East Kristal Way in North Phoenix.
>
>Despite the fact that the pit was only 3 feet deep, the man was
>overcome by the heat and failed to get out.
Just guessing, but I guess he was probably overcome by carbon monoxide
and not by the heat. It's probably the reason he fell into the pit in
the first place, I guess.
Dave Bugg
CO poisoining doesn't seem real likely, to me. Open pits within enclosed
sheds with open windows are common in NC, and CO is not an issue there. With
a pit in open air I don't see how enough CO could replace enough o2 to make
that an issue. I do understand how significant the amount of radiant heat,
put out by the pit, could be a problem, though.
Steve Calvin
> David Harmon wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:33:38 -0800 (PST) in alt.food.barbecue, rob
>> <rw...@concentric.net> wrote,
>>> Phoenix -- A man in his late 30s was roasting a pig at a family
>>> gathering Wednesday night when he somehow fell into the cylindrical
>>> pit.
>>>
>>> It happened on East Kristal Way in North Phoenix.
>>>
>>> Despite the fact that the pit was only 3 feet deep, the man was
>>> overcome by the heat and failed to get out.
>> Just guessing, but I guess he was probably overcome by carbon monoxide
>> and not by the heat. It's probably the reason he fell into the pit in
>> the first place, I guess.
>
> CO poisoining doesn't seem real likely, to me. Open pits within enclosed
> sheds with open windows are common in NC, and CO is not an issue there. With
> a pit in open air I don't see how enough CO could replace enough o2 to make
> that an issue. I do understand how significant the amount of radiant heat,
> put out by the pit, could be a problem, though.
I'm with you there Dave. I've had some absolutely huge fires in our
firepit at the camp. No problem breathing... ;-)
--
Steve
rob
>
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Another bbq gone wrong in the same County.
\\GLENDALE, AZ -- Officials say six people were taken to the hospital
after they were overcome by carbon monoxide fumes inside their home.
Glendale Fire spokesman Daniel Valenzuela said firefighters were
called to the home near 59th and Olive avenues around 10:15 p.m.
Friday night because a child was ill.
Crews found the family suffering from symptoms of carbon monoxide
poisoning, some going in and out of consciousness.
Valenzuela said detectors showed high levels of the toxic fumes in the
home where the family was using a barbeque indoors.
There is no immediate word on the conditions of the patients.
David Harmon
<dave...@yahoo.com> wrote,
>CO poisoining doesn't seem real likely, to me. Open pits within enclosed
>sheds with open windows are common in NC, and CO is not an issue there. With
>a pit in open air I don't see how enough CO could replace enough o2 to make
>that an issue.
Well, you certainly have more experience with that kind of cooking than
I do. I'll just point out that CO doesn't have to displace any
significant amount of O2. Carbon monoxide is a poison that binds
strongly to the hemoglobin in the red blood cells, preventing them from
carrying oxygen. Small amounts can be lethal.
I don't know if his pit was open, enclosed, or what. Carbon monoxide is
lighter than air, so it dissipates quickly in open air. With even a
shed, I'd want to be real careful.
It will be obvious to the Coroner/Medical Examiner whether he suffered
CO poisoning or not.
Dave Bugg
> I don't know if his pit was open, enclosed, or what.
It was in his backyard. A big hole.
Nunya Bidnits
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>
> \\GLENDALE, AZ -- Officials say six people were taken to the hospital
> after they were overcome by carbon monoxide fumes inside their home.
>
> Glendale Fire spokesman Daniel Valenzuela said firefighters were
> called to the home near 59th and Olive avenues around 10:15 p.m.
> Friday night because a child was ill.
>
> Crews found the family suffering from symptoms of carbon monoxide
> poisoning, some going in and out of consciousness.
>
> Valenzuela said detectors showed high levels of the toxic fumes in the
> home where the family was using a barbeque indoors.
>
> There is no immediate word on the conditions of the patients.
Barbecue indoors = pitifully stupid
Barbecue indoors in Arizona = Darwin award candidate
The fire department should have just looked, removed the kids, left, and
locked the doors on their way out. It would have been a service towards
improving the gene pool.