Busiest McDonald's?
snopes
> I was driving with a friend that told me that the "worlds busiest
> McDonalds" is between Route 81 and route 70 in Hagerstown, MD. I then
> heard the same story from two other locations?
Not even close. The McDonald's restaurants on Beijing's Wangfujing Dajie
and in Moscow's Pushkin Square (plus several other Asian locations) dwarf
any of the American outlets when it comes to number of customers served
or units of food sold.
In America, I believe the McDonald's in Chicago's River North area is
the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
- snopes
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| Because I do not want any prehistoric animals to suffer and die for my |
| transportation needs, I refuse to use petroleum-based fuels. |
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Bruce Gubser
: U3...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu wrote:
: > I was driving with a friend that told me that the "worlds busiest
: > McDonalds" is between Route 81 and route 70 in Hagerstown, MD. I then
: > heard the same story from two other locations?
: Not even close. The McDonald's restaurants on Beijing's Wangfujing Dajie
: and in Moscow's Pushkin Square (plus several other Asian locations) dwarf
: any of the American outlets when it comes to number of customers served
: or units of food sold.
: In America, I believe the McDonald's in Chicago's River North area is
: the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
: so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
: - snopes
: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: i| Because I do not want any prehistoric animals to suffer and die for my |
: | transportation needs, I refuse to use petroleum-based fuels. |
When did the KKK start buying McDonalds?
: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
George Grapman
: the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
: so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
: - snopes
: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
: | Because I do not want any prehistoric animals to suffer and die for my |
: | transportation needs, I refuse to use petroleum-based fuels. |
: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Try cross posting this on alt.conspiracy. It will fit right in there.
Jeff Williams
Really. If it's true, I wonder why McDonalds hires so many minorities.
greg margulies
Jeff Williams <jmw...@is2.nyu.edu> wrote:
>sf...@well.sf.ca.us (George Grapman) wrote:
>> snopes
>> : In America, I believe the McDonald's in Chicago's River North area is
>> : the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
>> : so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
>> Try cross posting this on alt.conspiracy. It will fit right in there.
>Really. If it's true, I wonder why McDonalds hires so many minorities.
This is real simple. I can easily answer both questions. First, the busiest
McDonald's is whatever one you decided to go to for lunch. Secondly, they
hire so many minorities, so that they can keep them in low-paying jobs.
They also hire a lot of old people, I mean, youth-challenged, which
helps contribute to the busiest McDonald's, since they aren't really that
busy, but rather it's the same people stuck in there for a long time.
Greg "Exactly What Part of the Chicken Does the McNugget Come From?"
--
Confucius says, "Fuck you, stop quoting me!"
George Grapman
: Bruce Gubser (bgu...@lamar.ColoState.EDU) wrote:
: > When did the KKK start buying McDonalds?
: The KKK has owned McDonald's franchises all along, so I guess the answer
: to your question is about forty years ago.
Of course you can provide some names and documentation.
: - snopes
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: | |
: | Have a nice day. |
: | |
: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
andrew ross
> the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
> so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
What kind of a pea-brain are you my friend? how do you know who owns
literally thouusands upon thousands of restaurants? gee and all this
time I thought I was working for a corporation....(yes, there are
franchisees AND corporate owned stores)
do you think before you shout off your trap or are you so ignorant
that you must close your mind to the truth?
yes, Mcdonalds does hire alot of minorities and guess what? not very
many other places would hire them....hmmm. but McD's did, why?
gee, and I always thought it was almost necessary to pay minimum wage
(like most other jobs!) in order to remain competitive in a
low-skilled job market.... hmmm. but I guess my studying economics is
useless when I can listen to an expert demonstrate how to pump out B.S.
please accept my apologies for being so harsh in my words, I just
found your statement as ill-informed as is possible and it irritated me...
AR
Andrew Welsh
: SNIP!
: > the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
: > so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
: CRUNCH!
[blah deleted]
: gee, and I always thought it was almost necessary to pay minimum wage
: (like most other jobs!) in order to remain competitive in a
: low-skilled job market.... hmmm. but I guess my studying economics is
: useless when I can listen to an expert demonstrate how to pump out B.S.
Yes, but it can be argued that paying your staff better wages leads to higher
motivation and morale, thus improving productivity and giving better returns.
This is especially useful in MacDonalds in Leicester Square on a Friday night,
when large numbers of people enter, wait in a queue for 10 minutes, realise
they're never going to get their Big Mac and Fries, and go across the square
to Burger King instead.
Andrew "been there, done that (or bt, dt to the BOA exempt)" Welsh
--
Andrew Welsh (and...@bnr.ca) - All views in this posting are mine alone
"Today we storm the barricades not to bring down capitalism, but
to get revenge" - Gavin Hills, The Face, Jan 1995
Ray Depew
: SNIP!
: > the "real" busiest. Most American outlets are owned by the KKK, however,
: > so I wouldn't patronize any of them if I could avoid it.
: CRUNCH!
: What kind of a pea-brain are you my friend?
What is wrong with this picture? "You are a pea-brain. You are also
my friend."
Hey snopes, them Canadian ones are good eatin'. Some even come
already flame-broiled.
Buon appetito
Ray
Barbara Hamel
>
> Hey snopes, them Canadian ones are good eatin'.
I resent that.
Barbara "it's true... but I still resent that" Hamel
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"dark-eyed NCFreenet lady" | I don't care about being recognized"
ag...@freenet.carleton.ca | are either a) lying; or b) Protestants.
| - Dick Joltes
Barbara Hamel
> Well, I don't know about the rules up there in libertarian Canada, but down
> here in the USA you need a license to operate a restaurant (which probably
> explains why American McDonald's aren't vermin-infested like their Canadian
> counterparts.)
Yes, our McDonalds are overrun with vermin. We affectionately refer to
them as American tourists.
Barbara "inexplicably, the infestation gets worse during the summer
months" Hamel
--
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"decried NCFreenet wench" | straining even the most intimate friendships.
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Lee Rudolph
>come on, if you want an intellegent debate try to inject a little grey
>matter into your argument (between flames that is...;>)
But insist that it be well-done, otherwise you'll be at risk for Mad Cow
Disease.
Lee "grilling the brainless for 20 years" Rudolph
Paul Tomblin
>
>up here we don't mate with our cousins and eat our neighbours!
Speak for yourself.
--
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<a href=http://watt.oedison.com:8080/~tomblinp/>My home page</a>
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Bernhard Muenzer
|
| You may not want to hear this from a clueless newbie, but the usual urban
| legend involves KFC and rat meat, not McDonalds.
So why does eating a hamburger make you good at solving mazes ?
b "watch out for slime trails at fast food stores" m
--
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Jason R. Heimbaugh
>In a previous article, ar...@chat.carleton.ca (andrew ross) said:
>>up here we don't mate with our cousins and eat our neighbours!
>Speak for yourself.
OK, OK, OK, the hockey season is finally going to start, all you Canadiens
(read American-wannabes - sheesh, you people try *so* hard to be American, but
you just don't get it, do you?) can go home now.
Goodbye, oh, and you can send some beer back south when you get home.
--
Jason R. Heimbaugh - j...@uiuc.edu
"Monday morning I wake up with a [keyboard] in my hand, boss[wo]man yelling
somethin' at me I don't understand. I don't remember how I got to work, but
I sure know I'm there. I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to
care." --Wade Hayes
Chris Fishel
> well my friend... up here we don't mate with our cousins
>and eat our neighbours!
Gee, do all Canadians have such interesting ways of demonstrating
friendship?
> you really DO seem to have a bit of a problem don't you.... why, have
> you become unemployed recently (from a famous fast food chain) and are
> just trying to vent some steam.... hmmmm
>
Of course that's it. The illustrious, always truthful snopes is
just PO'd at McD's. And I'm sure it's just a wacky coincidence that
Louisiana assemblyman/former KKK wizard David Duke is on the McDonald's
board of directors.
Chris "Hey, snopes is no more likely to be wrong on this McD's/KKK
connection than he was on the inability of light to travel in a
vaccuum" Fishel
snopes
> You may not want to hear this from a clueless newbie, but the usual urban
> legend involves KFC and rat meat, not McDonalds.
The rat meat thing happened not to KFC, but to Kentucky Fried Chicken. The
chain was sold at about the same time that they were forced to change their
name because the Kentucky legislature took out a trademark on their state's
name.
- snopes
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| "She also gets a lot of notes from Canada, but she considers mail from the |
| provinces, as she puts it, 'no big deal.'" |
| _The New Yorker_ Aug. 8, 1994 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Jason R. Heimbaugh
> The rat meat thing happened not to KFC, but to Kentucky Fried Chicken. The
> chain was sold at about the same time that they were forced to change their
> name because the Kentucky legislature took out a trademark on their state's
> name.
This is nothing new, the Arctic Legislature did so long ago.
andrew ross
> true.
sorry, your imagination doesn't count... I know, I know.. but you
shouldn't really listen to ole Charlie M.
> a) I don't eat rats.
no, that would be canabolism....
> b) I don't believe in destroying rain forests for cheap ratburgers.
hmm, and I suppose you think I do eh? duh! besides, McDonald's doesn't
advocate rain forest beef anyways.... but I guess in your imaginary
world with your imaginary databases and computers (which only exist in
the ego-maniacal U.S. in your 'world' of imagination) you could once
again 'prove' this eh? uhn?!
> No, I suppose your Albertan cattle serve both purposes.
yes, but we deport americans caught doing such things....
up here, we like to have a reasonable degree of social standards and
education....
University Computing Center - Anonymous PC
>
>: Not even close. The McDonald's restaurants on Beijing's Wangfujing Dajie
>: and in Moscow's Pushkin Square (plus several other Asian locations) dwarf
>: any of the American outlets when it comes to number of customers served
>: or units of food sold.
>
I lived in Hong Kong for a while and from there I also visited Peking, back in
1993. I must say that the one in Peking was nothing compared to some outlets in
the HK territory. Especially the ones in Tuen Mun and Kwun Tong, two new towns,
were downright hectic.
Gerald A Belton
: all you Canadiens
: but you just don't get it, do you?) can go home now.
I was watching an NPR program about the Trans-Canada Railway, and they
quoted some Famous Canadian Guy as saying this:
"Canada had the chance to have the best of American know-how, French
culture, and British politics. Instead we got American culture, British
know-how, and French politics."
Gerald "some nightmare, eh?" Belton
--
"In the old days, being crazy meant something. I don't speak
Nowdays, EVERYBODY'S crazy." for Tulane.
-- Charles Manson
Bringas Lisa Marie
> Date: Thu, 12 JAN 1995 08:38:33 CST
> From: Jason R. Heimbaugh <j...@uiuc.edu>
> Newgroups: alt.folklore.urban, alt.mcdonalds, alt.food.mcdonalds
> Subject: Re: Busiest McDonald's?
I would rather be dead then be American....I'm thankful everday
that I'm Canadian. I live across from Detroit and I see what
crap is going on.
T.Ryerson Fuller (Tazman)
>John Doherty (jdoh...@bga.com) wrote:
>
>> The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
>> (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
>> "American waanabes".
>
> Uh, I think the NEW YORK YANKEES (winners of 22 World Series, including
> five straight in 1949-1953 and four straight in 1936-39) surpass that,
They surpass 21, but not the real, 24 Stanley (that's a Two-Four)Cups that
Montreal has won. Molson's came out with a special commemorative case when they won
in '93.
> especially considering that they play a *real* sport.
Yeah, they play that wonderful sport of Rounders! They just call it that other
silly name. :)
Ever wonder how many of those World Series were fixed? The black sox, weren't the
only ones, they were just the ones that got caught. Yeah, Great sport!
T.Ryerson Fuller
Concordia U, Que.
Justin Tharp
that we here at Mc Donald's are proud to introduce. It's called the Mc
Fuck, it's something entirely new that really looks like shit. It
contains two buns with meat in between. When you grab the meat sometimes
the secret sauce comes running down your chin. It will soon become value
meal #69, and no it doesn't come with biggie fries asshole.
John Doherty
>
>OK, OK, OK, the hockey season is finally going to start, all you Canadiens
>(read American-wannabes - sheesh, you people try *so* hard to be American, but
The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
(a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
"American waanabes".
john "oh, did you mean Canadians? My mistake" doherty
Paul Tomblin
>On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, Jason R. Heimbaugh wrote:
>> In article <D2AMC...@compass.telemax.com> ptom...@compass.telemax.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:
>> >In a previous article, ar...@chat.carleton.ca (andrew ross) said:
>> >>up here we don't mate with our cousins and eat our neighbours!
>>
>> >Speak for yourself.
>>
>> OK, OK, OK, the hockey season is finally going to start, all you Canadiens
>> (read American-wannabes - sheesh, you people try *so* hard to be American, but
>> you just don't get it, do you?) can go home now.
>>
>> Goodbye, oh, and you can send some beer back south when you get home.
>>
>>
> I would rather be dead then be American....I'm thankful everday
> that I'm Canadian. I live across from Detroit and I see what
> crap is going on.
It's too small Jason, throw it back.
"I'd rather be dead than American"... Isn't that a quiz show on UK radio?
--
Paul "Part of the covert Canadian invasion force" Tomblin
Clay Shirky
> I would rather be dead then be American....I'm thankful everday
> that I'm Canadian. I live across from Detroit and I see what
> crap is going on.
Yeah! Those loser Americans, they have so much time on their hands they can
actually trim quoted material before posting follow ups!
Clay "how lame!" Shirky
Clay Shirky
> The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
> (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
> "American waanabes".
Sure, but what do you think would happen to them were they to play in a
_real_ league, like the NHL?
Clay "they'd be crushed, thats what!" Shirky
Madeleine Page
> up here, we like to have a reasonable degree of social standards and
> education....
Damn right we do, Andrew.
Andrew proves his point by quoting snopes:
>> I don't eat rats.
And coming back, sharp as a sack, with this snappy rejoinder:
> no, that would be canabolism...
(For which, I assume, the only effective treatment would be a course of
canabolic steroids).
Waydago, Andrew. All the rest of us Canadians is proud of youse.
Madeleine 'could that be...over there with those elephants... no, it
couldn't... could it be.. Hanabol? Page
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hotc...@utdallas.edu
This sounds like a deep rooted fear of McDonald's employees someday
taking over your family and rapping your elders.
Man are you sick!
--
Adam Hotchkiss
------
hotc...@utdallas.edu
andrew ross
ridiculous that you won't get much of a rise out of me....
I like not being a fat dumb rosanne and dan clone....
I don't watch it much but hockey is MUCH better than NFL football (for
braindead pin-head's that work the gas station all day and can't
handle anything else.........)
we don't give a rats ass about whether O.J. drank a glass of water
yesterday and our t.v. stations aren't plastered with him....
we haven't built our country on the right to produce arms and sell
them to other countries....esp. poor ones so they can blast the snot
out of each other and the big powerfull u.s. can waltz in and save the
day even though they're the ones that made it worse by selling the dam
things to begin with....
we don't have to duck every time a car drives by!@
our music industry doesn't thrive on 'gangsta-rap'....
we don't cram our thumbs up our butt and cry every time we hear the
star spangled banner.....
our women get an education and work instead of watching oprah and
phill between fantisizing about fabio all day.....
our politicians aren't out doing drugs and having affairs so they CAN
institute health care and social benefits.....
we can locate our country on a world map without it being labelled
already..... oh, and we know were we send our troups.....
we don't need 'hooked on phonics....' to help us with our middle-aged
crisis.....
shall I go on.....
we, in Canada are not perfect but I seriously doubt that we give a
shit about being american..... in fact most of us are annoyed by the
egotistical little buggers....
ejoy yur 'lil yankee doodles, partner the bank's coming to re-po 'em
cus ya owe 13+ TRILLION bucks and its getting worse!
andrew ross
Bob Hiebert
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>You may not want to hear this from a clueless newbie, but the usual urban
>legend involves KFC and rat meat, not McDonalds.
>- trasi
>--
The way I heard it was that rat-meat tastes *just* like frog legs, not
hamburger.
Bob Hiebert
Jason R. Heimbaugh
>In article <jrh.35....@uiuc.edu>, Jason R. Heimbaugh <j...@uiuc.edu>
wrote:
>>OK, OK, OK, the hockey season is finally going to start, all you Canadiens
>The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
>(a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
>"American waanabes".
OK, then Mr. Smarty-Pants, if they aren't American-wannabes, why are they
trying to break the Boston, Massachusetts, United States of America Celtics
record? Kinda like fucking to prove you're a virgin, n'est pas?
Jason "at least we don't speak French in America" Heimbaugh
Bob Hiebert
writes a 2-line follow-up and inadvertently re-posts forty-bazillion lines of
header.
WOW! Sorry about that. Trying out a new newsreader and I didn't know it was
going to put the entire freaking header in the post.
Bob
Barbara Hamel
>
> Jason "at least we don't speak French in America" Heimbaugh
Honey, from what I've seen, you guys barely speak English.
Barbara "good thing money talks or we'd never understand a word you say" Hamel
--
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ag...@freenet.carleton.ca | no way a person could become permanently
| insane from acid. Unless you mean H2SO4.
| - Paul Tomblin
snopes
> The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
> (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
> "American waanabes".
Uh, I think the NEW YORK YANKEES (winners of 22 World Series, including
five straight in 1949-1953 and four straight in 1936-39) surpass that,
especially considering that they play a *real* sport.
- snopes
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| "From the start, they seemed an unlikely couple. She is an articulate, |
| 22-year-old sophisticate. He is a 300-pound bruiser with a habit of |
| vomiting on people he doesn't like." |
| - The Wall Street Journal 27 Jan 1994 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Eric Masson
>> The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
>> (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
>> "American waanabes".
> Uh, I think the NEW YORK YANKEES (winners of 22 World Series, including
> five straight in 1949-1953 and four straight in 1936-39) surpass that,
> especially considering that they play a *real* sport.
> - snopes
Hi,
Make that 24 Stanley Cups. Better than the Celtics and Yankees if I am
not mistaken. Better than any pro team that I've ever heard of. And the Habs
have won 5 straight and 4 straight in a more recent past. And hockey is much
more of a sport than baseball. Go ask John Kruk if he thinks he is an athlete
and you will be surprised by his answer.
Salut,
Eric
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Jason R. Heimbaugh
>Make that 24 Stanley Cups. Better than the Celtics and Yankees if I am
>not mistaken. Better than any pro team that I've ever heard of. And the Habs
>have won 5 straight and 4 straight in a more recent past. And hockey is much
>more of a sport than baseball. Go ask John Kruk if he thinks he is an athlete
>and you will be surprised by his answer.
Why be surprised? One of my cow orkers likes the current Phillies team as it
proves that even fat guys like him can play baseball. Anyways, baseball isn't
really a sport as Canadiens play. Look what they did when they tried to start
a football league! Hey, here's an idea, lets play on a soccer field and give
every one 8 downs just so Canadien athletes [sic] have a chance to score.
Bri Farenell
: John Doherty (jdoh...@bga.com) wrote:
: > The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
: > (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
: > "American waanabes".
: Uh, I think the NEW YORK YANKEES (winners of 22 World Series, including
: five straight in 1949-1953 and four straight in 1936-39) surpass that,
: especially considering that they play a *real* sport.
Actually, the Habs have (unfortunately) won 24 Stanley Cups. That includes
5 straight (1956-60) and four straight (1977-80).
Although both the Habs and Yankees have been surprassed in pro sports
(although not North American) by several European soccer clubs including
(but not limited to) the Glasgow (Scotland) Rangers and Juventus
of Turin, Italy.
BRI
(A one-time baseball fan who didn't care much hockey but that's now reversed)
Go Boston Bruins! Go Adirondack Red Wings! Go Red Sox (if they ever play again)!
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fare...@craft.camp.clarkson.edu are made up.
Finger this account for Italian Serie A soccer standings. Forza Lazio!
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."
ROSE...@hacks.arizona.edu
> John Doherty (jdoh...@bga.com) wrote:
> > The Montreal Canadiens, winners of 21 Stanley Cups, including five in a row
> > (a dynasty surpassed in pro sports only by the Boston Celtics), are hardly
> > "American waanabes".
>
> Uh, I think the NEW YORK YANKEES (winners of 22 World Series, including
> five straight in 1949-1953 and four straight in 1936-39) surpass that,
> especially considering that they play a *real* sport.
As was widely reported here in the US during the '93 Stanley Cup, the Montreal
Canadiens are North America's most successful sports franchise. I think the
total is around 26 or so, including their most recent championship the year
before last. It's very convenient for you to write it all off by saying that
hockey 'isn't a real sport', but you're wussing out if you ask me. Your
pathetic Yanks haven't won a World Series in 14 years anyway, so who are you to
compare? No team has won more championships than the Montreal Canadiens. Check
your facts (in a book I mean, if you can read) before posting again, please.
Eric Masson
>In article <3f6bbd$s...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca> er...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca (Eric Masson) writes:
>really a sport as Canadiens play. Look what they did when they tried to start
>a football league! Hey, here's an idea, lets play on a soccer field and give
>every one 8 downs just so Canadien athletes [sic] have a chance to score.
We only need 3 downs, that's one less than the Americans for the same
10 yards. And you owe us a bit for the game of football. Here's what my
american sports encyclopedia has to say about it:
FOOTBALL
--------
"Football, as we know it, exists today because of a proposal from McGill
University in Montreal, Canada, and the gracious hospitality of Harvard
University, the host team for football games in Cambridge Massachusetts,
May 14 and 15, 1874.
At the Cambridge institution in 1871, a group of scholarly types seeking
diversion started to play what was called the `Boston game'. The game
the students played varied from the dangerous, unorganized informal
kicking game that the school faculty had prohibited in the 1860s. In this
new game, the ball --rubber, round, and inflated-- could be scooped up at
any time and the possessor could run with it if he was chased. All previous
football games including the first intercollegiate game between Princeton
and Rutgers in 1869 (the teams used 25 players to a side), were a
reasonably close imitation of soccer.
But this take-off on soccer had some merit, so much that in the fall of
1873 Yale invited Harvard, Princeton, Columbia and Rutgers to a convention
in New York for the purpose of drafting a code of rules and incorporating
them into the proposed Intercollegiate Football Association. Harvard
shunned the convention because it held dear the `Boston Game' and refused
to recognize any deviation from it. Harvard, which had organized its
own Football Club in 1872 for games between classes, thus had to look
elsewhere than the other four schools for intercollegiate competition.
This is where McGill came into the picture. The Canadian school proposed
a series of games for the spring of 1874, and Harvard mellowed somewhat
and compromised some of its earlier beliefs regarding the rules. It was
agreed that the first two games would be played under Harvard's regulations
while the third contest would be played under McGill's rules, which were
as in English rugby. This game set the pace for the development as it is
played in the US -- a game wholeheartedly American..."
It goes on explaining how the Boston game hardly resembled rugby. Harvard
won the first game under Harvard rules 3-0. The game under the McGill rules
finished scoreless. The game was supposed to field 15 players aside but McGill
had only 11 players so it was an 11 on 11 matchup. Harvard liked the style
of the McGill game so much that it adopted the rules and expressed the desire
to meet Yale. Subsequent games were played 15 on 15 until Yale in 1880
pushed for 11 on 11 again. It is ironic that Montreal no longer has a
professional team in football.
HOCKEY, BASKETBALL, BASEBALL
----------------------------
As a side note the birthplace of hockey claims (1860) come from Canadian
cities, notably Halifax, Kingston and Montreal. The first set of
rules were formulated by W.F. Roberson and R.F. Smith, students
at McGill University in Montreal. The next year the first recognized
ice hockey team was formed: the McGill University Hockey Club.
And the birth game of Basketball also had to do with a Dr from McGill
visiting Massachusets. Springfield more precisely.
Baseball is an American game whose credit goes to Abner Doubleday in 1839.
This question was answered by a US commission in 1905. The commission was made
to quiet British claims that baseball is merely an adaptation of the old
English game of rounders. Harvard claims to have played the game in 1829
but the evidence was not substantial enough for the commission.
So as you can see Canadians have little to envy from Americans when it comes
to creativity in sports. 3 out of 4 major sports ain't bad. And we still
have the most crowned team in North American pro sports: the Montreal Canadiens
with 24 cups (does anyone know of a pro team that has won more championships
anywhere else in the world ? I can't find better and I'm curious to know).
James L. Coffey
: So as you can see Canadians have little to envy from Americans when it comes
: to creativity in sports. 3 out of 4 major sports ain't bad.
Major sports? Hell, son, y'all ain't even mentioned a sport that can
hold a candle to NASCAR. And it shoo nuff was invented south of the
Mason-Dixon line that divides the US from Canada.
William E. VanHorne
>As was widely reported here in the US during the '93 Stanley Cup, the Montreal
>Canadiens are North America's most successful sports franchise.
And just who "widely reported" this hooey? Peter Jennings? Michael J. Fox?
How gullible do you think we are?
> I think the
>total is around 26 or so, including their most recent championship the year
>before last.
Oh I see. I'm supposed to take the word of people in the PAY of the
Canadian government on this huh? Yes, son, you didn't actually *see* the
Canadiens win any of these so-called "cups"; just take our word for it.
HAH!
> It's very convenient for you to write it all off by saying that
>hockey 'isn't a real sport', but you're wussing out if you ask me.
Of *course* you would say that. Paid disinformation propoganda specialists
will say anything, as long as it furthers the AGENDA of their PAYMASTERS.
> Your
>pathetic Yanks haven't won a World Series in 14 years anyway, so who are you to
>compare? No team has won more championships than the Montreal Canadiens. Check
>your facts (in a book I mean, if you can read) before posting again, please.
Oh yes, by all means, read our books. Over and over again. Let us fill
your mind with CANADIAN LIES. Watch our TV anchormen. Every day. Ignore
the infiltration cadres in Akron. Pay no attention to those BLACK
HELICOPTERS.
Take your Canadian bullshit and smear it over people who will believe it.
We have been aware of the plot for years, and your pathetic parliamentary
pedantry is fooling no one.
---Bill "my colander is *glued* on, so don't even hope" VanHorne
COMITALE LEO
Isn't that where Monster Truck racing and pig wrestling comes from
too?
--
Leo Comitale <> University Of Toronto Computer Engineering <> 9T6++
m o g h u a
James L. Coffey
: In article <3f7rhk$j...@crl4.crl.com>, James L. Coffey <jco...@crl.com> wrote:
: >Eric Masson (er...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca) wrote:
: >
: >: So as you can see Canadians have little to envy from Americans when it comes
: >: to creativity in sports. 3 out of 4 major sports ain't bad.
: >
: >Major sports? Hell, son, y'all ain't even mentioned a sport that can
: >hold a candle to NASCAR. And it shoo nuff was invented south of the
: >Mason-Dixon line that divides the US from Canada.
: Isn't that where Monster Truck racing and pig wrestling comes from
: too?
yea, I'se just bout fergort the good ole boy's who drives them Monstor
trucks, but I anin't sure abot no pig wrastling. Ain't that what you
boys north of the mason-dixon line in Canada call sex?
Jim "just another bubba in a pickup on the troll road called the
infobahn" Coffey
"Knowledge is Good" Emil Faber
T.Ryerson Fuller (Tazman)
>andrew ross (ar...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
>
>> correction: you payed german scientist to build a good bomb... (might I
>> add you still owe money to germany and other countries for the
>> 'bomb-race' and the space race, at which, I may add -> you yankie
>> doodlers lost BIGTIME!)
>
> Yeah, the best you can say is that the surface of the moon isn't littered
> with the bodies of Canadian astronauts from failed landing attempts.
>
As well as we can say we didn't waste Billions of dollars on weaponry and
space junk (except that one Anik anchor in space).
While the "races" did lead to improved technology in some areas, the
devotion of production to these two goals may have cost America it's
global dominance in the economic sector. Along with the cost of Vietnam
(nearly a billion dollars a day).
Anyway the next step is to go to mars, but the question becomes, Why?
Any solar expansion is bound to destroy Mars soon after the Earth, if
we haven't succeeded before the need arises.
Ciao!
andrew ross
> yea, I'se just bout fergort the good ole boy's who drives them Monstor
> trucks, but I anin't sure abot no pig wrastling. Ain't that what you
> boys north of the mason-dixon line in Canada call sex?
no, haven't you had things explained to you sonny boy? oops, I forgot
that comes in grade 6 and well when you drop out at grade 2, you just
pretty well miss it...
COMITALE LEO
>COMITALE LEO (com...@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3f7rhk$j...@crl4.crl.com>, James L. Coffey <jco...@crl.com> wrote:
>: >Eric Masson (er...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>: >
>: >: So as you can see Canadians have little to envy from Americans when it comes
>: >: to creativity in sports. 3 out of 4 major sports ain't bad.
>: >
>: >Major sports? Hell, son, y'all ain't even mentioned a sport that can
>: >hold a candle to NASCAR. And it shoo nuff was invented south of the
>: >Mason-Dixon line that divides the US from Canada.
>
>: Isn't that where Monster Truck racing and pig wrestling comes from
>: too?
>
>yea, I'se just bout fergort the good ole boy's who drives them Monstor
>trucks, but I anin't sure abot no pig wrastling. Ain't that what you
>boys north of the mason-dixon line in Canada call sex?
Only when it's REALLY good.
>Jim "just another bubba in a pickup on the troll road called the
>infobahn" Coffey
>
>"Knowledge is Good" Emil Faber
--
Ray Depew
: well I am afraid your claim of us wanting to be american is so
: ridiculous that you won't get much of a rise out of me....
... and then carried on for 44 more lines, in which every sentence
fragment ended in four (count 'em, four) dots, and the only capital
letters in the whole place were in "O.J." and "Canada".
: we, in Canada are not perfect but I seriously doubt that we give a
: shit about being american..... in fact most of us are annoyed by the
: egotistical little buggers....
Yeah, well, some of us Canadians are really annoyed by other Canadians
who come off as "egotistical little buggers" as well. Go peddle your
nationalist claptrap somewhere else, okay?
Ray
p.s. Paul, I think we need to cancel this guy's Invasion Card.
James L. Coffey
: > yea, I'se just bout fergort the good ole boy's who drives them Monstor
Whatsen all this stuff bout grades? Grade 2, grade 6, whichin one is
that at Carleton.ca (aint't is strange that you boys north of the mason
dixon line there in canada put y'alls periods in the midlle of a word)--
andrew ross
> who come off as "egotistical little buggers" as well. Go peddle your
> nationalist claptrap somewhere else, okay?
and there are yet others who have no intellegent opinions OR a sense
of humor... good point!
notice ^^^ three dots! wheee now I can be 'cool' like you!!
q:can I be your friend?
Lee Rudolph
gives the show away with his misspelling of "humour":
>and there are yet others who have no intellegent opinions OR a sense
>of humor... good point!
>notice ^^^ three dots! wheee now I can be 'cool' like you!!
>
>q:can I be your friend?
ObAFU: Carleton's taking McGill's place of honour, wouldn't you say?
Lee "a:KMRIA" Rudolph
andrew ross
> that at Carleton.ca (aint't is strange that you boys north of the mason
> dixon line there in canada put y'alls periods in the midlle of a word)--
and one finger for uze guys down south....
Ray Depew
: q:can I be your friend?
I dunno. Dave DeLaney, can he be my friend?
I didn't think so. Sorry, Andrew. Get a life, and then come ask again,
okay?
Ray
Ray Depew
: Numerical figures about a game divided into _quarters_, but only has
: _three_ of them, are obviously nonsense.
Well sure, after three quarters of play, there aren't enough guys left
standing to play the fourth quarter. (see also: "Rollerball," 1975)
Regards
Articulate Mandible
>Major sports? Hell, son, y'all ain't even mentioned a sport that can
>hold a candle to NASCAR. And it shoo nuff was invented south of the
>Mason-Dixon line that divides the US from Canada.
Aw, shucks. NACAR ain't anywhere near as manly as it usta be. Gimme
mile ovals and clods over the rail and keep yer paved, banked tracks.
Speaking of major sports, there hasn't been one to compare with Jim Brady.
--
Artie the Hinged Jaw
"Sobriety, water, and fish. There you have it."
Scott Hampton
Jason R. Heimbaugh
>Speaking of major sports, there hasn't been one to compare with Jim Brady.
Taking a bullet in the head to save the President is now a sport?
--
Jason R. Heimbaugh - j...@uiuc.edu
I've upped my standards, now up yours.
snopes
> Then whyfor all your universities teach oodles of English classes but
> don't offer American as a language?
What's the point of teaching something everybody already knows? That
explains why English is offered in Canada, though.
- snopes
snopes
> correction: you payed german scientist to build a good bomb... (might I
> add you still owe money to germany and other countries for the
> 'bomb-race' and the space race, at which, I may add -> you yankie
> doodlers lost BIGTIME!)
Yeah, the best you can say is that the surface of the moon isn't littered
with the bodies of Canadian astronauts from failed landing attempts.
- snopes
snopes
> sorry to embarass you but that wasn't a canadian woman, it was an
> albertan steer... good thing you were in the u.s. where that practise
> is called 'luv' or something...
If a Albertan rancher loses one of his steer, and it ends up in the USA,
are they still legally married?
- snopes
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Articulate Mandible
>>Speaking of major sports, there hasn't been one to compare with Jim Brady.
J...@uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimboy) writes:
>Taking a bullet in the head to save the President is now a sport?
I were speaking of *Diamond* Jim, callow youth! He was one of the last,
great sports, spats and all.
Say . . . you look pretty good mounted on the wall of my den.
andrew ross
> If a Albertan rancher loses one of his steer, and it ends up in the USA,
> are they still legally married?
If you mean marred when refering to the american scholar who 'took'
the steer then yes I'd say their reputation is pretty well shot...
good question though....hehehe
Mike Czaplinski
>
>Jason "at least we don't speak French in America" Heimbaugh
>
Ah Oui, Mon Ami! Viv Le Newt!!!
Mike "Monge Moi, Garcon Fanatique" Czaplinski
m...@nsscmail.att.com
David DeLaney
|andrew ross (ar...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:
|
|: q:can I be your friend?
|
|I dunno. Dave DeLaney, can he be my friend?
Eerily enough, I *was* going to follow that up. No, he can't be your
friend, because filling out the application form requires knowing the
difference between minuscule and majuscule. I also predict that you've
already responded to my answer...
|I didn't think so. Sorry, Andrew. Get a life, and then come ask again,
|okay?
Dave "Megamo^H^Hdi**oes" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. Disclaimer: IMHO; VRbeableWIKTHLC
http://enigma.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ / CanterSiegelKibozeBait!!
hotc...@utdallas.edu
Distribution:
Mike Hoffman (vid...@tezcat.com) wrote:
> hotc...@utdallas.edu wrote:
> : This sounds like a deep rooted fear of McDonald's employees someday
> : taking over your family and rapping your elders.
> I somehow cannot imagine a gang of McMinimum-wagers coming to *anyone*'s
> house, tying the occupants to chairs, grabbing microphones, and rapping.
> This shit simply does not happen.
May be I speak of experience. You know, us McStupids are armed with Mac
sauce guns.
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Paul Tomblin
>In article <jrh.49....@uiuc.edu> j...@uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimbaugh) writes:
>>
>>Jason "at least we don't speak French in America" Heimbaugh
>>
>
>Ah Oui, Mon Ami! Viv Le Newt!!!
That's "Vive Le Newt Libré!"
--
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<a href=http://watt.oedison.com:8080/~tomblinp/>My home page</a>
"ICMP: The protocol that goes PING!" - Bill Garret.
Paul Tomblin
[about andrew ross]
>p.s. Paul, I think we need to cancel this guy's Invasion Card.
>
--
Paul "somebody has to make sure VanHorne doesn't escape" Tomblin
DaveHatunen
Dean Steptoe <ccsc...@superior.carleton.ca> wrote:
[...]
>Well, it was the busiest in Southern Ontario. That was until they built those
>service stations right off the major highways. It is no longer the busiest,
>but I think it is still one of the most "high tech" McDonalds I've seen
>around. Fancy terminals, computerized order system. Most McDonalds don't
>seem to have that stuff...
>
>I'm sure the McDonalds in SkyDome is busier (where there is no strike).
The busiest McDonalds in the World is whichever one I dash into when
I'm in a hurry.
Dave "Whaddya mean you have to make more Big Macs???" Hatunen
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@netcom.com) **********
* Daly City California: *
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* and the San Andreas Fault meets the Sea *
*******************************************************
Steve Caskey
And besides, if they called them "thirds" anyone with an Irish accent would
be continually misunderstood.
>Regards
>Ray "and you should see the gore that happens in the stands" Depew
Steve "remember though, some of that is flung there off the players" Caskey
--
Steve Caskey (all...@schools.minedu.govt.nz)
Just another mindless public servant at the Ministry of Education
Agoraphobia: Don't leave home without it
Lee Rudolph
>Gee, there's lame and then there's snopes.
I take back what I said about Carlton.
Lee "there's halt and then there's..." Rudolph
Lee Rudolph
>And besides, if they called them "thirds" anyone with an Irish accent would
>be continually misunderstood.
Is the Irish Standard Third different from the British one, then?
Lee "paging Geoff Percival" Rudolph
Magnus Selhammar
MROZ
> If you were so smart, you'd know that the division between summer/winter
>olympics has nothing to do with the season during which those sports are
>played..
All the winter sports in the olympics are self evident. They ALL involve ice
or snow. The cold outdoors, perhaps you've heard of them.
>...and golf would be in the summer olympics.)
I am not exactly sure that Golf is in the winter olympics. Try again.
> They're divided by relative
>popularity: popular sports (such as soccer and basketball) are in the
>summer olympics (when TV viewership needs a boost because everything is in
>reruns),
Nobody takes Olympic soccer seriously, and you can't pretend that's a major
tv draw. Keep trying.
> and the non-popular sports (such as hockey and driveling -- two
>Canadian favourites) are in the winter olympics
Hockey and Driveling, eh? Now you're getting personal and you've shattered
all your credibility. Don't try anymore.
_/\_ MROZ _/\_
-\| |/- -\| |/-
`______' Toronto Maple Leafs `______'
' || ` 1995 Stanley Cup Champions ' || `
Sean Willard
| In <3fm5s2$j...@nic-nac.CSU.net> hben...@huey.csun.edu (snopes) writes:
|
| > Most feel it's time to give skating a spot in the
| > summer games.
|
| So whatever happened to Melanie, anyhow?
I should not have to point out to you, Lee, that we are all Melanie.
And in retaliation for putting that song in my head, I say to you --
Just sit right down and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a fateful trip
that started from this tropic isle
aboard this tiny ship
Sean "I especially liked the version Led Zeppelin recorded" Willard
DaveHatunen
The Mad Kobold < Doug Norris > < Doug Norris > wrote:
[...]
>Of course, you're probably so damn dumb that I'd better put a smilie for all
>of this.
>
>:-)
Damn, that's a big catch. But chop off that head, real quick.
>Have a nice day, freak-boy
Some get it, some don't.
Magnus Boivie
> Are you that dumb? In case you don't know, soccer is extremely popular
> in South American countries. Now, as I understand geography, summer does
> not occur simultaneously in both the southern and northern hemispheres.
> Therefore, *somebody* is always going to be playing soccer in the winter.
But it isn't a wintersport anyway. You don't need either snow or ice.
And the best soccer players are playing in Europe on the northern
homisphere. And we have summer in the summer and winter in the winter.
We have soccer on every TV-channel every weekend.
> But because soccer enjoys tremendous popularity, it's given an honored spot
> in the summer olympics instead of being relegated to the "who cares?"
> winter olympics.
In the countries with snow and ice, like Sweden, is the winter
olympics as popular as the summer olympics.
Kindly,
Magnus Boivie
Jönköping International Business School
Jönköping, Sweden, Europe
David E Romm
LEO) wrote:
> We'll have gotten our seeder RamShips into other solar systems by then.
Everyone needs more RAM.
--
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the galaxy. Riding the wave since the Year of Our Moonlanding 10. Tapes
available.
Scott Tribe
: Public Cluster Macintosh (p...@directory.yale.edu) wrote:
: > NO--54"40' is the southernmost latitude of Alaska. originally, the Oregon
: > territory extended up to that line when it was under join British-American
: > administration. Later, when negotiations took a wrong turn over the
: > eventual fate of the territory, Americans began repeating the slogan
: > "54"40' or fight." No fighting occured, however.
: Huh? Originally, Americans claimed territory up to what is now about the
: mid-point of Oregon, at the 49th parallel. Later, they decided they
: also wanted the territory between there and 54" 40', the present-day
: boundary between the state of Washington and British Columbia. When the
: British refused to cede the land to the USA, the War of 1812 started.
: American troops quickly overran Vancouver and took possession of Montreal
: a few days after that at the Battle of Chrysler's Farm. (Only Laura Secord
: and her goat prevented the total annihilation of the British/Canadian
: forces.) The British/Canadians gave in and ceded all the disputed land
: to America when Gen. Wolfe was forced to surrender to Andrew Jackson's
: forces at Fort Ticonderoga.
: Don't they teach history in Canada, or do they only give you the version
: written by Charlie Farquharson?
Egads... they evidently dont teach history in the USA, because THAT is
about as historically inaccurate as you can get... The war of 1812 and
"54'40" are totally non-related.. one had nothing to do with the other..
I'd go on if I didnt think you were joking about what you just wrote.
And anyways, last I looked, this was the hockey base, not the history base.
:)
Clay Shirky
>
> It's a moot point - because TV Guide certainly does not.
They certainly contribute a lion's share though, along with Coca-Cola and
the other major advertisers.
> "Most" a.k.a. "You"?
snopes and everyone else here who can read.
> Why don't you quit telling people what they're trying
> to say and what they're trying to not say?
This cuts two ways. I notice you have no substantive argument with snopes
arguments - he was trying to clarify an important point, and since you are
upset that he is correct, you are reduced to mere gainsaying.
> It's tough to play ice hockey on a layer of blacktop - that's why they play
> on ice, in the winter. Gee, this is fun - I could do this all day! Let's
> see..."It's tough to parachute when there's nothing to jump off of." "It's
> tough to play baseball when you don't have a ball" - see, I can go on and on.
What does that have to do with snopes point? Winter is for unpopular
sports. There are both indoor and outdoor ice hockey rinks, as there are
indoor and outdoor baseball stadiums and tennis courts. Thus there are no
meteorological concerns for scheduling any sport which can be played year
round.
This means that sports can be scheduled according to popularity, right?
(OK, I can tell you're a nit-picker - this means that TV Guide can make a
"request" of the Olympic Governing Committee, but lets be serious about how
much money their "underwriting" power really buys them.)
> Of course, you're probably so damn dumb that I'd better put a smilie for all
> of this.
>
> XxX
Of course, you have obviously neglected to read awhile before posting. We
are good enough writers around here that we neither use nor need smileys,
and greet with contempt all who do.
Clay "smiley smiter" Shirky
--
Clay Shirky
Jim Robinson
>er...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca (Eric Masson)writes:
>>
>> As for tennis it is a summer sport.
> Oh yeah? Well, the Australian Open's held in January, which of
>course is winter, which demolishes your argument. QED.
January ain't winter in Australia.
--
Jim Robinson
robi...@mdd.comm.mot.com
{ubc-cs!van-bc,uunet}!mdivax1!robinson
Stephen Zatman
!>What does that have to do with snopes point? Winter is for unpopular
!>sports. There are both indoor and outdoor ice hockey rinks, as there are
!>indoor and outdoor baseball stadiums and tennis courts. Thus there are no
!>meteorological concerns for scheduling any sport which can be played year
!>round.
I used to know a competitive handglider (he was ranked #6 in the world, or
something like that), who told me that handgliding is an optional sport in the
summer Olympics - i.e. the hosts decide whether or not to have a handgliding
event.
Now I know the truth - it's really a winter Olympic event but nobody dares
participate, else they'd get laughed at when they couldn't stay in the air
for 30 seconds without the summer thermals.
Either that, or it looks really uncool to go handgliding in a ski jacket.
!>Of course, you have obviously neglected to read awhile before posting. We
!>are good enough writers around here that we neither use nor need smileys,
!>and greet with contempt all who do.
!>
!>Clay "smiley smiter" Shirky
Stephen " X;^> " Zatman
Alex A Goddard
snopes (hben...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:
: Perhaps you've heard of basketball? It's played from late fall through to
: spring; i.e., all throughout the winter. Last I checked, you don't need
You're not suggesting NBA basketball is a sport, are you? There's about
as much athleticism and showmanship as the WWF in the NBA. Hell, if it
weren't for all the big contracts, they'd all be in jail anyway. He
basketball fans, tune in for the last minute of the game and you've seen
it all...what a joke.
Alex
The Mad Kobold < Doug Norris >
>The Mad Kobold < Doug Norris > (n914...@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
>>> Of course. Who do you think funds the whole Olympic program?
>> It's a moot point - because TV Guide certainly does not.
> Gads, what a pinhead. Does it have to be spelled out for you? The
>USA funds the olympics, so American networks get to dictate what is played,
>and when. TV Guide is merely a magazine which prints the networks'
>schedules; they don't fund or schedule anything.
Why did you cut out the part where you said that TV Guide did fund the
Olympic program?
>> What colour is the sun on your planet?
> God, another Canadian who knows nothing about geography.
I'm an American. Live with it.
>> Why don't you quit telling people what they're trying to say and what
>> they're trying to not say?
> When people try to obfuscate because the truth contradicts their claims,
> it must be pointed out.
And you're the supreme judge of what is right and what is wrong?
>> It's tough to play ice hockey on a layer of blacktop - that's why they play
>> on ice, in the winter.
> Yeah, in hockey rinks. We have them here in Los Angeles, too, even
> thought it never snows. Gosh, how is that possible?
Yeah, and ask the players. The ice in L.A. is shitty. The ice in Dallas is
shitty. Same for San Jose, Miami, Tampa... the ice stays in better shape
where it's cold.
> The weather doesn't make a bit of difference when you're playing in
> climate-controlled indoor facilities, and you damn well know it. I suppose
> your Olympic teams all go and practice on whatever frozen-over pond is
> handy, huh? Geez, I can't believe anybody could be that stupid without
> working awfully hard at it.
Well, you're that stupid and it doesn't seem as though you've worked very hard
at all.
Didn't you see my smilie last time, you clueless ****?
Well, here's one for this whole message--- :-)
Don't take life so seriously.
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Barbara Hamel
his axe and tries to be a nice guy about things:
>
> Maybe it's time somebody explained to my fellow Canadians about snopes?
Won't work, Ray. We Canadians weren't forced to read boring American authors
like Crane or Faulkner in school so the explanation would be kind of wasted.
There's enough fine American literature on the market nowadays to keep
veracious Canadians readers happy for centuries. As long as there are
first-rate writers like Mickey Spillane and Jackie Collins adding to the
quality of our daily existence, why in hell would any sane person want
to dig up those moldy hacks?
Barbara "and I'll bet Leacock could lick Twain in a fight too" Hamel
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snopes
> Don't they teach you Geography? 54"40' is the same as 54 minutes, 40
> degrees (around Salt Lake's latitude). What you mean is 54'40'' which
> refers to 54 degrees 40 minutes. Or is U.S. geography different than
> Canadian?
No, U.S. *punctuation* is different than Canadian.
- snopes
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Jeff Friedman
>well I am afraid your claim of us wanting to be american is so
>ridiculous that you won't get much of a rise out of me....
>I don't watch it much but hockey is MUCH better than NFL football (for
>braindead pin-head's that work the gas station all day and can't
>handle anything else.........)
Gee, there's a CFL but not a USHL...
>we don't give a rats ass about whether O.J. drank a glass of water
>yesterday and our t.v. stations aren't plastered with him....
No, but you get way too many Michael J. Fox updates...
>we haven't built our country on the right to produce arms and sell
>them to other countries....
And we didn't build ours on exports of cold weather, old timber, and fresh water...
>we don't have to duck every time a car drives by!
We don't have to ban a TV program every time each phrase doesn't end with "eh."
>our music industry doesn't thrive on 'gangsta-rap'....
What music industry? Gordon Lightfoot and Anne Murray? Give me a break!
>we don't cram our thumbs up our butt and cry every time we hear the
>star spangled banner.....
You didn't earn you independence the old fashioned way--you whined and whined until
the Brits turned to more interesting and exciting ventures such as Hong Kong and
the Falklands.
>our women get an education and work instead of watching oprah and
>phill between fantisizing about fabio all day.....
Your women work so they can cross the border and shop here.
>our politicians aren't out doing drugs and having affairs so they CAN
>institute health care and social benefits.....
Our politicians don't go to Canada for health care, I've noticed...
>we can locate our country on a world map without it being labelled
>already.....
Yeah, just north of the important country...
>oh, and we know were we send our troups.....
Ballet or opera?
>we don't need 'hooked on phonics....'
I guess even children can learn 'hosehead' without additional help. Although I fail
to believe that most of you can pronounce Saskatchewan...
>ejoy yur 'lil yankee doodles, partner the bank's coming to re-po 'em
>cus ya owe 13+ TRILLION bucks and its getting worse!
An amount surpassed only by (on a per capita basis, since the two of you don't add
up to much) and a rate growing faster only in... OH, CANADA, our homely wasted land!
Jeff Friedman
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA
fri...@nwu.edu
Ray Depew
: hben...@huey.csun.edu (snopes) writes:
[...]
: Of course, you're probably so damn dumb that I'd better put a smilie for all
: of this.
Oh boy! Oh boy oh boy oboyoboyoboyoboy --
< dons hood >
: :-)
< hefts axe, examines smiley, glances at headers. slumps shoulders. >
Dang, it's crossposted.
Maybe it's time somebody explained to my fellow Canadians about snopes?
They seem to be awfully slow on the pickup here ....
Regards
Ray Depew
MROZ
>Eric Masson (er...@kirk.ee.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>> In North America soccer is a summer sport in case you don't know.
> Are you that dumb? In case you don't know, soccer is extremely popular
> in South American countries. Now, as I understand geography, summer does
> not occur simultaneously in both the southern and northern hemispheres.
> Therefore, *somebody* is always going to be playing soccer in the winter.
> But because soccer enjoys tremendous popularity, it's given an honored spot
> in the summer olympics instead of being relegated to the "who cares?"
> winter olympics.
Soccer is tremendously popular all over South America, Europe and Africa.
Not so in North America. You said the Olympics were geared towards North
American TV audiences, so your point is moot, and you are a fool.
>> And any sport that requires ice or snow is inherent to the Winter Olympics
>> regardless of its popularity. Remember Nancy K. and Tonya H. ? They are
>> figures of an extremely popular sport which is disputed in the Winter
>> Olympics
> You just contradicted yourself. If "any sport that requires ice or snow
> is inherent to the Winter Olympics", then why is ice skating "disputed in
> the Winter Olympics"?
Snopes, I figure you're posting flame-bait because no one is this stupid.
You obviously misunderstand "disputed" (a dictionary would help, then again,
maybe not in your case). I would love to understand what point you are
trying to make, but you're just not making sense.
Please stop posting in r.s.h., go back to silly.canuck.bashers.and.other.
dolts and leave us to our hockey discussion.
Clay Shirky
> All the winter sports in the olympics are self evident. They ALL involve ice
> or snow. The cold outdoors, perhaps you've heard of them.
Ergo all sports in the Winter Olympics are played outdoors? This is where
your argument unravels. Many winter sports are played indoors, and could as
easily be played in summer, just as games like tennis are often played
indoors and could as easily be played in winter.
Saying that Winter Olympics sports have to be played outdoors, in winter,
seems a poor place to begin your argument when your .sig ends championing
some Canadian team who won a hockey game indoors, in the spring.
> I am not exactly sure that Golf is in the winter olympics. Try again.
"I am not exactly sure that..." Well then why don't you look it up before
posting hearsay? When TV Guide took over sponsorship (well OK, _American_
sponsorship, but ever since we took to dominating the Gold Medal count,
they've sort of been our games anyway) Golf has been in the WO.
> Now you're getting personal and you've shattered
> all your credibility.
This is nice, huh? "...you've shattered all your credibility"? Not with us
he hasn't, because he knows how to write and we know how to read. If you
want his credibility shattered, why not post some real counter-arguments,
instead of merely ranting?
Clay "is MROZ a rot-13'd B1FF?" Shirky
cra...@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca
->snopes (hben...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:
->: Huh? Originally, Americans claimed territory up to what is now about the
->: mid-point of Oregon, at the 49th parallel. Later, they decided they
->: also wanted the territory between there and 54" 40', the present-day
->: boundary between the state of Washington and British Columbia. When the
->: British refused to cede the land to the USA, the War of 1812 started.
->: American troops quickly overran Vancouver and took possession of Montreal
->: a few days after that at the Battle of Chrysler's Farm. (Only Laura Secord
->: and her goat prevented the total annihilation of the British/Canadian
->: forces.) The British/Canadians gave in and ceded all the disputed land
->: to America when Gen. Wolfe was forced to surrender to Andrew Jackson's
->: forces at Fort Ticonderoga.
->
->: Don't they teach history in Canada, or do they only give you the version
->: written by Charlie Farquharson?
->
->Egads... they evidently dont teach history in the USA, because THAT is
->about as historically inaccurate as you can get... The war of 1812 and
->"54'40" are totally non-related.. one had nothing to do with the other..
->I'd go on if I didnt think you were joking about what you just wrote.
->
The mid-point of Oregon is at the 49th parallel? The present day boundary
between Washington and BC is 54" 40'? I would have to agree that the person
is joking, perhaps intending to amuse us with a parody on uninformed
Americans. The problem is that it is like writing to a math group and saying
things like 2+2 = 500 or 5-3 = 6. There is a point where you make your errors
so self-evident that it ceases to be funny. Humour is supposed to be subtle.
Doug Craigen | And nobody knows - tiddley pom
Dept. of Physics | How cold my toes - tiddley pom
University of Winnipeg | How cold my toes - tiddley pom
515 Portage Ave. | Are growing.
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CANADA
Barry Pearce
> The Mad Kobold < Doug Norris > (n914...@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
>
> >> Of course. Who do you think funds the whole Olympic program?
>
> > It's a moot point - because TV Guide certainly does not.
>
> Gads, what a pinhead. Does it have to be spelled out for you? The
> USA funds the olympics, so American networks get to dictate what is played,
> and when. TV Guide is merely a magazine which prints the networks'
> schedules; they don't fund or schedule anything.
>
>
> God, another Canadian who knows nothing about geography.
>
> > they're trying to not say?
>
> When people try to obfuscate because the truth contradicts their claims,
> it must be pointed out.
>
> > on ice, in the winter.
>
> Yeah, in hockey rinks. We have them here in Los Angeles, too, even
> thought it never snows. Gosh, how is that possible?
>
> climate-controlled indoor facilities, and you damn well know it. I suppose
> your Olympic teams all go and practice on whatever frozen-over pond is
> handy, huh? Geez, I can't believe anybody could be that stupid without
> working awfully hard at it.
>
>
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Barry Pearce
> Yeah, in hockey rinks. We have them here in Los Angeles, too, even
> thought it never snows. Gosh, how is that possible?
>
> The weather doesn't make a bit of difference when you're playing in
> climate-controlled indoor facilities, and you damn well know it. I suppose
> your Olympic teams all go and practice on whatever frozen-over pond is
> handy, huh? Geez, I can't believe anybody could be that stupid without
> working awfully hard at it.
I guess that's why Edmonton,Calgary,and Winnipeg are consistently rated
as the best ice surfaces in the NHL and the rinks in Sunny California and
Florida are consistently rated the worst. Do you honestly beleive that
outside temperature has no effect on the ice surface in a climate controlled
building.
> God, another Canadian who knows nothing about geography.
Christ, another American who knows nothing about Ice-making.
> | "Ninety-five per cent of the guys do not know that this is not a vagina"
That same 95% know damn well you are a dickhead .
snopes
>> Therefore, *somebody* is always going to be playing soccer in the winter.
> But it isn't a wintersport anyway. You don't need either snow or ice.
Perhaps you've heard of basketball? It's played from late fall through to
spring; i.e., all throughout the winter. Last I checked, you don't need
snow or ice for basketball. Similarly, American football is considered
a "winter" sport, and you don't need snow or ice for that, either. In
fact, they keep building more and more domed stadia (and playing important
games in God-forsaken places like Florida) to keep the snow and ice *out*.
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Patric Dempster
pd>Public Cluster Macintosh (p...@directory.yale.edu) wrote:
pd>
pd>> NO--54"40' is the southernmost latitude of Alaska. originally, the Oregon
pd>> territory extended up to that line when it was under join British-American
pd>> administration. Later, when negotiations took a wrong turn over the
pd>> eventual fate of the territory, Americans began repeating the slogan
pd>> "54"40' or fight." No fighting occured, however.
pd>
pd> Huh? Originally, Americans claimed territory up to what is now about the
pd> mid-point of Oregon, at the 49th parallel. Later, they decided they
pd> also wanted the territory between there and 54" 40', the present-day
pd> boundary between the state of Washington and British Columbia. When the
pd> British refused to cede the land to the USA, the War of 1812 started.
pd> American troops quickly overran Vancouver and took possession of Montreal
pd> a few days after that at the Battle of Chrysler's Farm. (Only Laura Secord
pd> and her goat prevented the total annihilation of the British/Canadian
pd> forces.) The British/Canadians gave in and ceded all the disputed land
pd> to America when Gen. Wolfe was forced to surrender to Andrew Jackson's
pd> forces at Fort Ticonderoga.
pd>
pd> Don't they teach history in Canada,
Don't they teach you Geography? 54"40' is the same as 54 minutes, 40 degrees
(around Salt Lake's latitude). What you mean is 54'40'' which refers to 54
degrees 40 minutes. Or is U.S. geography different than Canadian? Y'a gotta
wonder.
or do they only give you the version
pd> written by Charlie Farquharson?
pd>
pd> - snopes
pd> pd>
P. Allen Larsen
>Public Cluster Macintosh (p...@directory.yale.edu) wrote:
>
>> NO--54"40' is the southernmost latitude of Alaska. originally, the Oregon
While I'm not sure if the above mentioned location of 54"40' is correct, it
is infinitely more correct than your version.
> Huh? Originally, Americans claimed territory up to what is now about the
> mid-point of Oregon, at the 49th parallel. Later, they decided they
> also wanted the territory between there and 54" 40', the present-day
> boundary between the state of Washington and British Columbia.
Bzzzt, wrong! Your ignorance is showing again.
The 49th parallel is the border between Canada and the US from mainlaid
British Columbia thru to the Manitoba/Ontario border, where it is rudely
interrupted for a short spell before continuing to the Great Lakes.
> Don't they teach history in Canada, or do they only give you the version
> written by Charlie Farquharson?
Don't they teach geography in your area of the world?
Al.
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William E. VanHorne
>Didn't you see my smilie last time, you clueless ****?
>
>Well, here's one for this whole message--- :-)
>
>Don't take life so seriously.
Words of wisdom, Lloyd, words of wisdom.
But don't forget the classic: "Bite down *real* hard on every hook you see".
---Bill "What's the count on this bit of snopesolia? Do we have a new
record on this one or is "light doesn't propogate through a
vacuum" still number one?" VanHorne
William E. VanHorne
>
> _/\_ MROZ _/\_
> -\| |/- -\| |/-
> `______' Toronto Maple Leafs `______'
> ' || ` 1995 Stanley Cup Champions ' || `
Now, I know I haven't been paying much attention to baseball over the winter,
but since when did the Blue Jays start calling themselves "Maple Leafs"?
Sheesh, I thought "Blue Jays" was a dorky name 'til I saw this one. Is
this all about not being able to play baseball in Ontario unless your team
has union players? What the hell is going on here?
And when did Stanley Works start sponsoring the World Series? Damn, this
corporate advertising in sports has gone too far. What next, the "Friskies
Cat Food Summer Olympics"? The "Sears Roebuck French Open"? The "USF&G
Sugar Bowl"?
---Bill "disgusted with the whole thing" VanHorne
Paul Tomblin
>pd> also wanted the territory between there and 54" 40', the present-day
>pd> boundary between the state of Washington and British Columbia. When the
>
>(around Salt Lake's latitude). What you mean is 54'40'' which refers to 54
>degrees 40 minutes. Or is U.S. geography different than Canadian? Y'a gotta
>wonder.
If you're going to followup to a blantant troll, the least you could do is get
*some* of your facts right. Especially if you're going to be obnoxious about
it.
A degree sign looks like a little circle. If you have an ISO-LATIN-1
character set and an 8-bit-clean newsfeed, it looks like: °
A minute sign looks like: '
and a second sign looks like: ''
So 54'40'' is actually within one degree of the equator.
You mean 54°40'.
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>Barbara "and I'll bet Leacock could lick Twain in a fight too" Hamel
Leacock has to be the *worst* of all the boring Canadian sports. Imagine,
if you will, a literary Norman Rockwell . . .
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