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Subject: Password T.V Show
From: Steve Heston <hes...@wuolin.wustl.edu>
Subject: Password T.V Show
In college, a classmate related a story from the television game show
"Password". On this show, celebrities attempt to communicate a secret
password to contestants by saying a single word clue. In the story, the
secret word was "deer", the clue was "doe" (as in "doe, a deer, a female
deer ...), and the response was "knob?".
Please confirm or refute.
Steve Heston
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From: Steve Heston <hes...@wuolin.wustl.edu>
Subject: Password T.V Show
In college, a classmate related a story from the television game show
Please confirm or refute.
Steve Heston
I don't know about that one, but a I heard a similar story about a Latin
class in Massachusetts from my calculus teacher in high school. The class
is doing a drill where the teacher gives a word, then the student gives
the translation of the word into Latin or English, depending. The teacher
gives the word "fama," which is Latin for (somethingorother - I don't know
any Latin). The Bostonian student replied "agricola?" My teacher
represented it as a scene he witnessed personally.
fama = rumor, agricola = farmer
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Sounds like the one about the Boston area teacher who asked the kid to spell
"kareah". Kid kept saying "k-o-r-e-a" and the teacher got pissed at
him for being a smartass cuz what she meant was "c-a-r-e-e-r". I don't
remember if the person who told me this claimed to have witnessed it or not.
Hg
>In college, a classmate related a story from the television game show
>"Password". On this show, celebrities attempt to communicate a secret
>password to contestants by saying a single word clue. In the story, the
>secret word was "deer", the clue was "doe" (as in "doe, a deer, a female
>deer ...), and the response was "knob?".
i'm afraid i can't confirm or refute -- but i heard the
exact same tale maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
A few years ago at University I heard a similar story, this one involved
Family Feud.
The category was foods that start with the letter "a". The
first family had drawn it's three strikes and the second family,
was preparing for the steal. As the family members shouted out various
answers ("avacado!") the head of the family said in his thick southern
accent, "I'm gonna go on my own and say arnges." (oranges). As always,
the person telling the tale either saw the episode or swears a friend saw it.
Michael Forbes
Steven Pinker discussed this particular anecdote in his excellent book, _The
Language Instinct_ [p. 180, HarperPerennial trade paperback edition]. He
references it to a letter to the Boston Globe concerning a proposed ordinance
in Westfield in 1992. The ordinance would have banned the hiring of any
immigrant teacher who "speaks with an accent". Considering the sheer
silliness of such an ordinance in an area known for having some idiosyncratic
pronounciations, several readers of the Globe wrote in with their own
New England schoolmarm miscues.
Also, Pinker's version is a bit different. "Another amused reader remembered
incurring the teacher's wrath when he spelled "cuh-re'e-uh" k-o-r-e-a and
"cuh-re'e-ur" c-a-r-e-e-r, rather than vice versa."
Charles "Can I pahk my cah in Hahvahd Yahd now?" Odell"
"
>
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"If you want to sell your soul, Ive got a toll-free number"-Stone Roses;
So there are a few people in the east of the US who talk properly. So?
Enough accents already. Confining myself to the NW of England alone, I
could regale afu with tales of the South Lancs 'R', the respective
pronunciations of 'door' and 'moor' and the different options for 'look',
not to mention the Charley hordes who talk differently from people five
miles down the road (or indeed anyone else).
And if that all sounds backwoodsy and provincial to _you_...
Phil "Anyway, I think it's pronounced Hahv'd" Edwards
The women are asked "Where would your husband go if he was abroad?"
Three of the women name geographic places, but one answers "The five
and dime store," and explains that it is a women's clothing store, so
that's where he would go if he was A BROAD. When the husband was asked,
his answer was ALSO "the five and dime store". They were the only
ones out of the four to answer the same on this question.
Anyone else remember this?
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One wife's answer: Up the butt, Bob.
:>One wife's answer: Up the butt, Bob.
My favourite phrasing is still, "That'd have to be in the butt, Bob."
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One of my favorite game show stories concerns the guy on "Family Feud" who
was asked to name "the month women begin to look pregnant," and without
hesitating for a second, he answered, "September."
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You forgot about anal leakage.
Jeff.
* 1st 2.00 #5033 * 1stReader: Buy the best and you never regret it.
Indeed. How very pleasant to hear your exciting preference in phrasing.
But we weren't really all that interested, y'know. It's known around here
as "That'd be the butt, Bob", so these two contributions count as minor
variants.
As Kevin Grabow said, this story has been posted 500 times or more. It's
in the FAQ at http://www.urbanlegends.com/afu.faq/ . Other sources are
posted regularly in posts entitled "Are You New Here?" and "How to
understand AFU" and so forth.
If Mr Grabow had had the decency to lurk for a period, find out that we
get bored when people repeat hoary old chestnuts (HOCs), then look at the
FAQ and find that his favourite little story is a HOC, we wouldn't have
any danger of this boring thread starting up again.
Mike "post hoc, ergo get told to FAQ off" Holmans
> RS>Chances are you're thinking of the new fat substitute Olestra, which was
> RS>approved by the FDA in late '95, but has been getting bad press due to side
> RS>effects... ie.. abdominal cramps, diarrhea, and nutrient depletion.
>
> You forgot about anal leakage.
You forgot about "fecal urgency", which has been described as, and I
quote, "the feeling that you have to go to the bathroom NOW." Won't that
be fun in a traffic jam.
No doubt about it; people will go through hell on earth if it means
that they can eat fatty (or "fatty") foods and not gain any weight.
Robert Matthews
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I seem to recall in incident on a game show here in the UK about 10
years ago that was fairly remarkable. The presenter would say to the
contestant something like "Our survey asked 100 people to name something
you wear on the beach" and then ask the contestant to guess a popular
response. One chap got to the final stage of the show. The first
question required a country as an answer. He answered "Turkey". It was
wrong. Then the poor guy's brain decided it didn't want to play anymore.
He answered "turkey" to every remaining question.
Did I imagine this or did it really happen?
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"In your neighborhood, from which direction does the
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Of the women who were initially asked, only one said east.
The winning couple agreed that, in their neighborhood,
the sun came up in the north.
_Do_ tell, dearies.
ObUL: The most mind-boggling vector I ever encountered for
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No, he didn't get the job.
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>You forgot about anal leakage.
Several years ago I worked at a contract research organization that did some
work for P & G early in olestra's development. Several orkers described a
study that was purported to have been conducted prior to my employ.
It would seem that some of the early formulations had more severe leakage
problems. As a comparative measure, study participants were fed a diet high
in content of the test and reference formulations. They were required to
turn in their underwear daily for ..... err, ... ummm... _residue_
measurements. An average area for both test and refernce groups was made.
I swear this is not a troll.
Michael "ask me about the anti-nausea efficacy trial" Van Donselaar
<lots of stuff snipped>
Someone out there with far too much time on his hands put together the
following website which has much more than you'd ever even wish of
hearing about Olestra, the fat substitute, whose initial consumer product
placement does, in fact, seem to be in test marketing Pringles.
(Now was that an appropriately long running sentence?)
anyway, here it is:
http://www.cis.umassd.edu/~jburke/gallery/olestra/oleonline.html
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The show would have been "Family Fortunes". It used to be hosted by John
B Schmit's friend, the master of sincerity, Bob Monkhouse. It's still
going but is now fronted by someone else (Les Dennis?). I'm pretty sure
that the format of the show must have originated in the good ol' USofA.
The show always had (/has) a high proportion of participants who either
had very oddly wired brains, or were just plain thick. The basic idea is
to judge what the ordinary man in the street/Joe Sixpack would have
answered to certain questions. The problem is that sometimes the
contestants have enough trouble with their own brains, let alone someone
else's. Questions such as "We asked 100 people what they would take to
the beach" could, and did, produce bizarre, and surprizingly surreal,
responses. At other times one could almost see the cogs turning and was
reminded of rabbits caught in headlights.
Given this, although I don't remember someone suffering total brain
failure and anwering "Turkey" to every question, I certainly wouldn't
say that it didn't happen.
Dave "Err, a copy of the Daily Telegraph, Bob" Blake
London, England
Er... the obvious answer was "wash hand basin", the other answers being
based on either an old joke or an inherently absurd substitution of "and"
for "hand". There, that's made it a _lot_ funnier.
Phil "it was more of a wry-smile job at the time, to be honest" Edwards
May I take this opportunity to share with afu the _Radio Active_ parody
How about an English translation as well?
Dave "Stoneface" Blake
London, England
Something like that was in some sitcom. Was it Wings?
Eric Johnson
Robert Matthews (jim...@mis.ca) wrote:
: In article <8C45592.0626...@compudata.com>,
: jeff.r...@compudata.com (JEFF RICHARDS) wrote:
: > RS>Chances are you're thinking of the new fat substitute Olestra, which was
: > RS>approved by the FDA in late '95, but has been getting bad press due to side
: > RS>effects... ie.. abdominal cramps, diarrhea, and nutrient depletion.
: >
: > You forgot about anal leakage.
: You forgot about "fecal urgency", which has been described as, and I
> The show would have been "Family Fortunes". It used to be hosted by John
> B Schmit's friend, the master of sincerity, Bob Monkhouse. It's still
> going but is now fronted by someone else (Les Dennis?).
My middle initial is "H", fool. And while I am being picky, my surname is
spelt with two "t"s. Further to that my father had a middle initial "B"
and although he is currently in the past tense there is some good stuff
about him on the 'net. As for the suggestion that I am a friend of Bob
Monkhouse, I'll see you in court, Matey. To rejoin the thread I remember
a show where *both* contestants got the wrong answer to "Who wrote
Handel's Firework Music?". However my raddled mind cannot even remember
the name of the show. The other Moment of Glory I remember was in
"Bullseye" where the contestant had to score one point to win the star
prize with one dart and the dart bounced off. ROTFL
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An Englishman in New York? No, an American in London.
>In college, a classmate related a story from the television game show
>"Password". On this show, celebrities attempt to communicate a secret
>password to contestants by saying a single word clue. In the story, the
>secret word was "deer", the clue was "doe" (as in "doe, a deer, a female
>deer ...), and the response was "knob?".
This sounds to me like a version of the "stupid [person] doesn't speak
proper [native tongue] and is embarrassed/loses out as a result" kind
of story.
One of the major forms is where a person names her child a horrible
name because of ignorance (Syphilis, for example). Please note that
we have seen just about every one of these so don't contribute your
favorite stupid name unless you have the accompanying birth
certificate in your sweaty hands. I'm only looking out for your TV
dinner.
A joke quite similar to the story you tell is the one about the Black
man who will win some large sum of money or fabulous prize from a
radio station if he can name three famous Mickeys. "Mickey Mantle,
Mickey Mouse" he says, then struggles for the third. At the last
moment he comes up with "Mickey Way."
I heard this particular exchange on the radio as part of a montage,
and it seemed to me that it was a moderately realistic put-on.
(TWIAVBP: Milky Way is a USAn candy bar)
JoAnne "her name was Yemonja, not Lemonjello" Schmitz
"You are arrogantly redefining my arrogance." -- Floyd Davidson,
on alt.folklore.urban.
This story appeared in a _TV Guide_ article about game shows, sometime in
the early '80s; the celebrity was Tom Selleck, IIRC, and allegedly the
contestant sued him (he was laughing so hard that he was unable to
continue).
The same article also described a "Wheel of Fortune" contestant who tried
to solve the puzzle with "More fun than a barrel of Vikings", a mental
image I've been stuck with ever since.
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Hmm, reminds me of a story a high-school history teacher told us about a
diet milkshake-type drink that was sold by mail before the FDA came into
being. It reportedly worked very well. In fact, *too* well.
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It's a fairly entertaining book, but don't take all of it as truth.
He passes along the "in the butt, Bob" UL as true, and at least a couple others.
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I heard the story thru a FOAF chain, with all of the above
details (clue = doe, answer = knob, gales of laughter from celeb,
lawsuit from contestant) but the celeb was identified as Alan Alda.
Whilst looking up stuff for this article I found out that Chuck
Barris [producer of, among other things, the Newlywed Game] has
an autobiography called "The Game Show King: A confession".
Should be a gold mine of game show lore, based on my memory of his
Playboy interview .
Bo "you know you're getting old when what you
remember from your Playboy reading days is
an interview with a schlockmeister" Bradham
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: It's a fairly entertaining book, but don't take all of it as truth.
: He passes along the "in the butt, Bob" UL as true, and at least a couple others.
OK. I have a question, then (I'm young, I'm allowwed to ask)...
I would take such a book as canonical (about the Game Show biz) unless
told otherwise. So, if the "in the butt, Bob" story is in this book, why
is that inclusion not a vote in its favor? What evidence contradicts it?
(No, these are real questions, not doubt-casting.)
Ny
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>This story appeared in a _TV Guide_ article about game shows, sometime in
>the early '80s; the celebrity was Tom Selleck, IIRC, and allegedly the
>contestant sued him (he was laughing so hard that he was unable to
>continue).
Was Selleck the one who responded "knob"? Or the cluegiver? Clarify,
please.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, Maybe it's a form of humour that is
lost on an Aussie but what is so funny about Clue:doe, Response:knob
What is it? Someone please help me. I've asked my whole family and
nobody has laughed yet. Though "knob" on its own is a pretty funny
response, its not enough to be sued for. Is it?
Steve Renfrey
Adelaide Australia
> Maybe I'm missing something here, Maybe it's a form of humour that is
> lost on an Aussie but what is so funny about Clue:doe, Response:knob
>
> What is it? Someone please help me. I've asked my whole family and
> nobody has laughed yet.
Brit data point: me neither.
Phil "keeping 'em brief" Edwards
>was there some rule of the game that the cluegiver couldn't say the word
>"door", or was it simply racist?
Actually, as I always heard it, the "Password" to be guessed was
"deer". "Doe" was a perfectly good clue. However, in the racist form
in which the story is usually told, the black contestant interpreted
this as the word "door" and, thus, guessed "knob".
This tale plays rather heavily on stereotypes.
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Sheesh, you foreigners! (I'm JOKING)
"Doe".."knob"... doorknob.. get it?
Especially with the British guy not getting it.. Don't many English accents
leave off certain sounds (or syllables!)??
It's not *that* funny overall, but in the context of a game show, it is.
Deep South pronunciation of door?
Nick 'or have I missed it too' Spalding
In the interest of world-is-a-big-placeness I'll chime in: In
some USAn dialects, "door" rhymes with "doe." So the joke is that
the Hollywood celeb gave the clue "doe" expecting the response
"deer", but the contestant, a speaker of one of these dialects,
heard "door" and replied "knob."
There is a joke like this, wherein a woman ask a store clerk for
advice on a feminine hygeine product. The clerk asks "what is
your flow like" and the answer is "linoleum."
These jokes are sometimes used to belittle the speakers of
these "non-standard" dialects. I have heard the "Password" story
told with racist overtones.
Bo "ear rhymes with air, too" Bradham
it's a play on the common stereotype of bad diction and grammar of low-income
blacks (in america). by the stereotype, such a poor black saying "hodey doe"
would mean "hold the door"; "doe/knob" of course then indicates "doorknob".
was there some rule of the game that the cluegiver couldn't say the word
"door", or was it simply racist?
Donald "fascinated by language" DiPaula
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> From: Phil Edwards <new...@dircon.co.uk>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:29:23 -0700
> Steve Renfrey wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something here, Maybe it's a form of humour
that is
> lost on an Aussie but what is so funny about Clue:doe,
Response:knob
> Brit data point: me neither.
<Sigh> You have both failed the entry test. Leave by the green
doe please.
Terry
TV Guide published an article in the early 1980's about game show flubs
and mistakes by contestants, including the "dough/knob" exchange between
actor Tom Selleck and an African-American woman. (For those unfamiliar
with the game show Password, the object was to guess a secret word using
words supplied by the celebrity as clues. For example, if the Password
was "book," the celebrity might prompt you with "novel" or "paperback."
Each contestant was paired with a celebrity, and took turns guessing at
the same word until one of them got it.)
According to the article, the Password was "money," and Selleck gave the
clue "dough." The woman allegedly misheard "dough" as "door" -- possible
only if the woman had a (stereotypically) thick accent and assumed that
Selleck did as well, which is where the story picks up its racial
overtones -- and guessed "knob."
Whether TV Guide was reporting fact or hearsay is open to question,
although many of the other stories in the article are verifiable: The
article included the classic answer to Family Feud's "Name the month in
which a woman's pregnancy begins to show" ("September," said the befuddled
contestant), and the man who won >$100,000 after realizing that the game
show "Press Your Luck" was using a non-random pattern on its video prize
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Not now I don't. I thought it was a reference to that guy in the pizza
place who got caught screwing a wad of dough.
> Especially with the British guy not getting it.. Don't many English
> accents leave off certain sounds (or syllables!)??
Course we do. But it doesn't make does sound much like daws. Speshly
'cause daws're birds.
> It's not *that* funny overall, but in the context of a game show, it is.
It's funnier the way I heard it.
Mike "master of elision" Holmans
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: The question is asked of the wives: "Where is the strangest place you have
: every made whoopee?" The ladies write down there answers, the husbands return
: and Wink Martindale (or whoever it was) asks the first husband the question.
: He looks puzzled for a minute and then answers "In the butt?"
: Anyone else heard this one?
Nope, never heard that one. Thanks. Hey, you should go check out the AFU
faq. It's full of good stories.
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Given the sensorship constraints of that era, although a contestant
might have *said* it, it would not have been aired.
Melanie Ramko
I remember being told this one by a friend a few years back about the Newlywed
game.
The question is asked of the wives: "Where is the strangest place you have
every made whoopee?" The ladies write down there answers, the husbands return
and Wink Martindale (or whoever it was) asks the first husband the question.
He looks puzzled for a minute and then answers "In the butt?"
Funny story, I doubt it is true?