Marilyn Manson/Puppies UL
Carey Ahr
("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
Begin cousin's multi-forwarded story:
Dear whomever may read this:
Today is March 30, 1999. And today I heard about something that has to
stop. You all know of the sick person named Marilyn Manson. I know
someone who went to one of his concerts. He is abusing animals. He threw
several puppies into the crowd before his show. And then he told the
crowd that he would not start the show until the pups were killed. So, in
conclusion, several puppies are killed at each Marilyn Manson concert.
This is a sick thing that has to stop now. And we are the only ones who
can stop it. This guy is a sick person. I am sending this to every1 on
my buddy list, and if you could PLEASE send this to at least 10 people, we
can make a difference. If people realize what this sick man is doing,
then less people will go to his concerts, and then when nobody comes, he
can't kill anymore puppies. So please, by sending this, you are saving
the lives of a couple puppies.
End story
I did a search on DejaNews on "marilyn manson puppies" and came up with a
couple references. Incidentally, it's amazing how often "marilyn manson"
and "puppies" can appear in the same newsgroup article with no seeming
correlation between the two. A UL in the making... "Conspiracy! Aliens
looking like puppies abduct Marilyn Manson. Researchers note high
occurence of "Puppies" and "Marilyn Manson" on Usenet."
Anyway, on alt.fan.backstreet.boys, someone mentioned it, someone else
said it probably wasn't true, and a third person said:
"No actually Marilyn Manson did throw 6 puppies into the audience at the
Vancouver show and would not play until the heads of those puppies were
back on stage. "
Interestingly enough, my cousin is a big fan of BSB (as she likes to call
them), but she doesn't have access to Usenet. This story was probably
vectored through their fan group to her by a friend who follows the group.
On alt.music.rob-zombie, someone said:
"Lets not start in on all the bullshit propaganda urban legend stuff.
(insert metal star/shock rockers name here) forces the audience to stomp
puppies before playing, eats animals on stage, drinks buckets of spit."
He wasn't talking about Marilyn Manson specifically, the thread was
concerning kids committing suicide after listening to (Album X).
On basic principle, I ask anyone at the Vancouver Marilyn Manson concert
to quietly shoot themselves (bonus points for killing the "band" and your
parents first), but before you do, please confirm/deny this account.
Carey "couldn't let this whole post go by without saying something bad
about MM[1]" Ahr
[1] Not that I like the Backstreet Boys either, but my cousin does, and
she's a smart little tyke, even if she doesn't delete the addresses in a
forwarded message.
C.S. Ancona
Carey Ahr <ca...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.GSO.3.95q.99041...@rac5.wam.umd.edu>...
> I got this one from my 12 year old cousin. I'm pretty sure it's false,
> ("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
> evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
<snip story about marilyn manson not starting show until audience kills
puppies>
Ozzy! It was OZZY!
Caeli "the youth today...sheesh" Ancona
Maggie Newman
>I got this one from my 12 year old cousin. I'm pretty sure it's false,
>("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
>evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
>
>stop. You all know of the sick person named Marilyn Manson. I know
>someone who went to one of his concerts. He is abusing animals. He threw
>several puppies into the crowd before his show. And then he told the
>crowd that he would not start the show until the pups were killed. So, in
>conclusion, several puppies are killed at each Marilyn Manson concert.
>
I can't prove a negative, but I can tell you that this rumor has been
around for many months, along with numerous other rumors about Manson.
He is extremely adept at generating controversy and publicity, which is
part of his presentation as a performance artist.
Here are two data points: if "several puppies" were really killed at
each Manson concert, don't you think kids would be telling parents and
authorities would have been notified by now? My daughter has attended
about six Manson concerts. The only blood he draws is his own.
Certain elements on the religious right are never happy unless they have
a demon to cast out, and Manson is quite happy to play this role. He
enjoys provoking such people by saying outrageous things. It has been
my experience that he and his followers are -- despite weird eyeballs,
black nail polish, etc. -- a bunch of sentimental wussies who would
probably at the very thought of hurting a puppy.
It's just the age-old drama of adolescent angst, played out with an
electric guitar and some very savvy public relations techniques.
Maggie "nothing to fear" Newman
--
"I used to be troubled, but then I saw the light
Now I don't worry about a thing, 'cause I know
Nothing's going to be all right."
M. Allison
Don
>
> Carey Ahr <ca...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.GSO.3.95q.99041...@rac5.wam.umd.edu>...
> > ("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
> > evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
>
> puppies>
>
> Ozzy! It was OZZY!
>
> Caeli "the youth today...sheesh" Ancona
While I'm about to embark on my search for other references to this
tale. I would like to agree, this just shows how soft Marilyn Manson is,
Osborne bit the head of three goats, a pig, then dynamited a horse
before each and every show.
--
Don M.
---------------------------
http://www.seidata.com/~donm/
Bailey Cameron
"C.S. Ancona" wrote:
> <snip story about marilyn manson not starting show until audience kills
> puppies>
>
> Ozzy! It was OZZY!
No no no, that was a *bat*, and he didn't realize it was a real bat
until after he'd bitten into it. He assumed that it was fake when
someone threw it on stage.
Is it just me, or does Marilyn Manson seem to be mutating into a
middle-aged Jewish woman? The big glasses, the furs, the hair...
Bailey "some of my best friends are middle aged Jewish women, and they
don't like him either" Cameron
John Francis
>"C.S. Ancona" wrote:
>>
>> Carey Ahr <ca...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
>> <Pine.GSO.3.95q.99041...@rac5.wam.umd.edu>...
>> > I got this one from my 12 year old cousin. I'm pretty sure it's false,
>> > ("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
>> > evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
>>
>> puppies>
>>
>> Ozzy! It was OZZY!
>>
>
> While I'm about to embark on my search for other references to this
>tale. I would like to agree, this just shows how soft Marilyn Manson is,
>Osborne bit the head of three goats, a pig, then dynamited a horse
>before each and every show.
No - he fed the dynamite to the pig, and let the horse kick it.
--
John "Or was that Alice Cooper?" Francis
la...@my-dejanews.com
"C.S. Ancona" <valen...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> Carey Ahr <ca...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
> <Pine.GSO.3.95q.99041...@rac5.wam.umd.edu>...
> > I got this one from my 12 year old cousin. I'm pretty sure it's false,
> > ("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
> > evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
>
> <snip story about marilyn manson not starting show until audience kills
> puppies>
>
> Ozzy! It was OZZY!
Every generation has its performer who is reputed to kill puppies, kitties,
or baby chicks on the stage; I was wondering when Mr. Manson would get around
to it! It was Ozzy, and before that it was Alice Cooper, and I imagine that
someday someone's going to find a scroll somewhere tut-tutting about that
awful Aristophanes, and how he won't start his play until several adorable
dodo birds are slaughtered by the crowd.
The people who make this stuff up ought to consider that someday, someone's
going to believe it and be the very first one to really, really do it!
Layna "remembers Marilyn from when he was a local band in Florida" Andersen
--
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>
> "C.S. Ancona" wrote:
>
> > <snip story about marilyn manson not starting show until audience kills
> > puppies>
> >
> > Ozzy! It was OZZY!
>
> until after he'd bitten into it. He assumed that it was fake when
> someone threw it on stage.
What I've never understood is why he didn't break his teeth on it.
Regards
Ray "wood or alumin(i)um?" D.
Sam Baker
Maggie Newman wrote:
> "I used to be troubled, but then I saw the light
> Now I don't worry about a thing, 'cause I know
> Nothing's going to be all right."
> M. Allison
That's not Mose J. Allison is it? I walked into a show of his in NYC last year
and loved it.
Don
Then I rearranged. (Forgive me, it's not to distort your meaning.)
> Hmmm. Well, I personally, must question the authenticity of those stories. #1:
> the UL you mentioned has also been mentioned about Ozzy Osbourne. #2: Marilyn
> Manson has so many ULs going around about him that it isnt even funny. Here are
> a few that I have heard:
Well, some of them circulated about Alice cooper as well, possibly
others.
> Of course, all of these things came from the friend of a friend of a friend's
> cousin to another friend's mother. (I just made that up, and if there is an
> illogical error in there, dont bother to correct me). So, I have good reason to
> doubt these things. And besides, would Manson be in a load of trouble if he did
> all that crap?
Be in trouble for what?
>
> 1. He wiped his anus with an American Flag.
Depending on the context and degree of public exhibitionism, he could
conceivably have been arrested for public indecency.
> 2. He had a couple of ribs removed so he could perform oral sex on himself.
Shirley untrue, but not against the law.
> 3. The infamous puppy one
This could, and possibly would be prosecuted as cruelty to animals.
> 4. He shoved a crucifix up his anus.
No, you're mistaken, he couldn't be in trouble for this, he'd get a
grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, and move on into a
successful career as a performance artist.
> 5. He is getting a clear plate put into his forehead so you could see his
> brain.
Cool! Stupid, impossible [1] and almost certainly an Urban Legend,
however wouldn't this be perfectly legal?
Yes, I understand that you knew these things to be urban legends, I
merely wanted to comment on the list. Possibly a mistake as I'm not sure
just how enlightening any further discussion of Mr. Manson can be.
1: Perhaps it's possible from a technical point of view, I'm not a
doctor, however I can't imagine that anyone would be irresponsible
enough to do this sort of surgery?
BonnyPup
>bible.</p>
Ummm..... shouldn't it be B*bl*?
Josh
BonnyPup
the UL you mentioned has also been mentioned about Ozzy Osbourne. #2: Marilyn
Manson has so many ULs going around about him that it isnt even funny. Here are
a few that I have heard:
1. He wiped his anus with an American Flag.
2. He had a couple of ribs removed so he could perform oral sex on himself.
3. The infamous puppy one
4. He shoved a crucifix up his anus.
5. He is getting a clear plate put into his forehead so you could see his
brain.
Of course, all of these things came from the friend of a friend of a friend's
cousin to another friend's mother. (I just made that up, and if there is an
illogical error in there, dont bother to correct me). So, I have good reason to
doubt these things. And besides, would Manson be in a load of trouble if he did
all that crap?
Josh
Rich Dubielzig
> BonnyPup wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> > Of course, all of these things came from the friend of a friend of a friend's
> > cousin to another friend's mother. (I just made that up, and if there is an
> > illogical error in there, dont bother to correct me). So, I have good reason to
> > doubt these things. And besides, would Manson be in a load of trouble if he did
> > all that crap?
>
> Be in trouble for what?
> >
> > 1. He wiped his anus with an American Flag.
>
> Depending on the context and degree of public exhibitionism, he could
> conceivably have been arrested for public indecency.
>
> > 2. He had a couple of ribs removed so he could perform oral sex on himself.
> Shirley untrue, but not against the law.
First of all, don't bring Shirley into this. Second of all, it would be a lot easier
for him to do this by taking some yoga classes and limbering up his back. If it's
still a problem, there's a surgical procedure that is used to detatch the penis from
the pelvis. This is done to give the appearance of more length, since it hangs down
more, but it could also probably provide those few extra inches.
>
>
> > 3. The infamous puppy one
>
> This could, and possibly would be prosecuted as cruelty to animals.
>
> > 4. He shoved a crucifix up his anus.
>
> No, you're mistaken, he couldn't be in trouble for this, he'd get a
> grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, and move on into a
> successful career as a performance artist.
I imagine it would also be very bad for his anus. Most crucifixes (crucifii?) I've
seen have lots of sharp little edges that can easily cause tears in his rectal
walls. Add to this any fungal spores trapped by the USAn flag in UL 1, and you've
got the possibility of a nasty infection.
>
>
> > 5. He is getting a clear plate put into his forehead so you could see his
> > brain.
>
> Cool! Stupid, impossible [1] and almost certainly an Urban Legend,
> however wouldn't this be perfectly legal?
Why impossible? Lots of people who've had brain trauma have had metal plates put in
their head. Why not a plate of Lucite or Plexiglas? If that doesn't work out,
Marylin can always go the way of the cows at the vet school and get an open tube that
goes directly into his stomach.
>
>
> Yes, I understand that you knew these things to be urban legends, I
> merely wanted to comment on the list. Possibly a mistake as I'm not sure
> just how enlightening any further discussion of Mr. Manson can be.
>
> 1: Perhaps it's possible from a technical point of view, I'm not a
> doctor, however I can't imagine that anyone would be irresponsible
> enough to do this sort of surgery?
>
> --
>
> Don M.
> ---------------------------
> http://www.seidata.com/~donm/
Rich D.
Deborah Stevenson
>Don wrote:
>> BonnyPup wrote:
>> > 5. He is getting a clear plate put into his forehead so you could see his
>> > brain.
>>
>> Cool! Stupid, impossible [1] and almost certainly an Urban Legend,
>> however wouldn't this be perfectly legal?
>Why impossible? Lots of people who've had brain trauma have had metal plates put in
>their head. Why not a plate of Lucite or Plexiglas? If that doesn't work out,
>Marylin can always go the way of the cows at the vet school and get an open tube that
>goes directly into his stomach.
Actually, I work quite near the fistulated cows, as they are formally
known, around here, and I have a friend who worked in the cattle barn with
them. If we're talking the same beasties, they don't have a permanent
tube but rather a clear porthole arrangement, whereby one can see in and
also obtain easy access (they tend to leak a bit, and apparently the smell
was revolting even to my friend the farmer).
They look like they've got big targets on their sides because of the
successive-circle effect, but otherwise they seem bovinely content.
The problem with the brain idea, I suspect is that you'd need some thing
as hard and protective as the skull itself (hence the metal plates), and
the cow-windows are apparently a more flexible material. He probably
doesn't really want the window effect, as there's a certain finiteness to
a career based on scooping bits of your own brain tissue out. On the
other hand, perhaps he could *insert* stuff--say, monkey brains...
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Dr H
On 13 Apr 1999, C.S. Ancona wrote:
}Carey Ahr <ca...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
}> I got this one from my 12 year old cousin. I'm pretty sure it's false,
}> ("please forward to at least 10 people") but I can't find conclusive
}> evidence for that (can't find conclusive evidence for truth either).
}
}<snip story about marilyn manson not starting show until audience kills
}puppies>
}
}Ozzy! It was OZZY!
And it wasn't puppies, it was BATS!
Dr H
Dr H
Was that the one where he slammed the kittens with the piano lid?
Dr H