Dish detergent and diarrhea
Ray Girvan
> Ray Girvan <ray.g...@zetnet.co.uk> writes:
>> A lot of foul British food habits are at least changing.
> has anyone ever seen the repulsive, british chefs known
> as _two fat ladies_?
Yeah. I see they've been syndicated to the Food Network. For some
reason I can't fathom, even here many people find them funny and
endearingly eccentric. I don't. We don't need a revival of a grim
upper-class cuisine based on half-rotted roadkill and dull heavy
sweets from the days when they thought apples, pears and walnuts were
rare and exotic fruit.
Ray "pasta la vista" Girvan
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Simon Slavin
"Janie" <mari...@tin.it> wrote:
> I have also noticed, during my stays in England that they don't rinse the
> dishes.
I've noticed that some people of my parents' generation dry their
dishes while there are still soapy bubbled on them.
> Never was sick either (at least not from the dishes, the tequila
> maybe). The Italians rinse, though. We rinsed everything in
> hot-as-you-can-stand-it water in Texas.
>
> Here's a theory I have and maybe someone from England could respond for us:
> Is the dish detergent used more environmentally friendly and biologically
> breaks down after a short period of time? Is it due to water conservation,
> possibly started during W.W.II? I noticed the Brits are diligent recyclers
> (bravo) and very conscious of the detergents (bleach) used.
Water is one of the few things that wasn't rationed during WWII.
It's actually far more of a problem now: one of the larger water
companies boasts whenever it can that they haven't needed to
institute a garden-hose ban for the last eight years. We're
gradually being switched to metered supplies whereas until 1980
almost all residential buildings had unmetered supplies.
We are, and have been for ages, /very/ conscious of putting
bleaches, soaps, washing-up liquids, etc. into rivers. A major
triumph recently was the sighting of an otter in the Thames -- a
sign that a reasonable quantity of fish now swam somewhere near
there. We have serious problems with water-quality in England
and our beaches and rivers frequently fail to reach the standards
of purity desired by the European Community.
As to rinsing washing-up liquid off of dishes, my mother (an
ex-nurse) used to tell me that washing-up liquid was carcinogenic
if taken in quantity. That was her reason for washing it off.
Mine is partly that I believe her, and partly that I have very
sensitive taste and if the liquid is left to dry on glasses or
cups I can sometimes taste it through the next liquid served in
them.
Unfortunately for domestic harmony, I'm a 'stack-em-'n'-leave-em'
kind of guy and my parents go in for wiping wet dishes with a
dirty cloth. This may be because, with kitchens the size they
used to be, dishes left out used to take up valuable space which
would be better utilised for something else. The flat I live in
now (built in 1998, designed to house 1.5 people) and the house
I grew up in (1930s, 3.5 people) have kitchens of almost the same
sizes.
Simon.
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Simon Slavin
Ray Girvan <ray.g...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> wozzek <mst...@gw.ford.com> writes:
>
> > has anyone ever seen the repulsive, british chefs known
> > as _two fat ladies_?
>
> Yeah. I see they've been syndicated to the Food Network. For some
> reason I can't fathom, even here many people find them funny and
> endearingly eccentric. I don't. We don't need a revival of a grim
> upper-class cuisine based on half-rotted roadkill and dull heavy
> sweets from the days when they thought apples, pears and walnuts were
> rare and exotic fruit.
Your analysis of their cuisine may be correct, but I don't think
you understand the point of the programme. It's entertainment.
You're meant to watch it and laugh and possibly learn something.
I don't think many of the audience are intended to rush out to
the shops and buy the ingredients needed to reproduce their work.
We're doing that a lot these days: we have a quiz programme
called _Have I Got News for You ?_ in which the score doesn't
matter; a lottery-draw programme which lasts for 35 minutes when
drawing the winning number takes about 35 seconds; and a cookery
programme which has no intention of teaching one to cook.
Mike Holmans
>We're doing that a lot these days: we have a quiz programme
>called _Have I Got News for You ?_ in which the score doesn't
>matter;
To whom?
The panel in HIGNFY pits Ian Hislop (editor of Private Eye) plus guest
against comedian Paul Merton plus guest. Merton is, or at least was,
famously competitive and gets really stroppy if his team loses.
I said "at least was" because he made a joking reference to this
competitiveness in his one-man show during the section where he was
talking about his time in a psychiatric hospital a couple of years ago,
and he doesn't protest quite as vehemently as he once did when he thinks
he's been diddled out of a point or two on the show.
Mike "<insert obligatory reference to Peter Mandelson here>" Holmans
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Lil Bro
wozzek wrote:
> > A lot of foul British food habits are at least changing. Now that
>
> has anyone ever seen the repulsive, british chefs known as _two fat
> ladies_?
And this from the nation that gave the world Julia Childs (or Miss piggy
as she's known in my house)
Jasper Janssen
slavins.at.hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) wrote in
<B38863629...@0.0.0.0>:
>We're doing that a lot these days: we have a quiz programme
>called _Have I Got News for You ?_ in which the score doesn't
>matter;
Are there any British quizzes where the score _does_ matter? I mean,
HIGNFY, The great antiques Hunt, Going For a Song...
Jasper
Rich Rodriguez
Lil Bro wrote:
Isn't Julia Child a USAn? ISTR she was an OSS employee in WWII. Also
married to a State Department official.
Steve Harkins
well.
Rich Rodriguez <rie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Crash Johnson
>Rich Rodriguez <rie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
<>
>> Isn't Julia Child a USAn? ISTR she was an OSS employee in WWII. Also
>> married to a State Department official.
> Yes, she and her husband were spooks, and supposedly Peter Ustinov was as
>well.
My god, Julia Childs AND her husband were Peter Ustinov?
Crashj ' he was bigger than I thought' Johnson
Charles A. Lieberman
> We're doing that a lot these days: we have a quiz programme
> called _Have I Got News for You ?_ in which the score doesn't
> matter;
That's not particularly UKoGBaNIan. _You Bet Your Life_ was more of a
forum for Groucho Marx to make jokes than anything else, and _What's My
Line?_, after a few years, gave the same prizes to all contestants
regardless of their success, according to producer Gil Fates.
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Rich Rodriguez
British spook (can't remember his name) about his life as a spy and the
Philby/Burgess/MacLean debacle. He makes mention of meeting with Ustinov Sr.
Apparently His Majesty's gov't had used him up and spit him out.
Can't remember the name of the book, but it was an autobiography.
Steve Harkins wrote:
> Yes, she and her husband were spooks, and supposedly Peter Ustinov was as
> well.
>
> Rich Rodriguez <rie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3769D6F5...@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >
> > Lil Bro wrote:
> >
> > > wozzek wrote:
> > >
> > > > > A lot of foul British food habits are at least changing. Now that
> > > >
> > > > has anyone ever seen the repulsive, british chefs known as _two fat
> > > > ladies_?
> > >
> > > And this from the nation that gave the world Julia Childs (or Miss piggy
> > > as she's known in my house)
> >
Viv
Rich Rodriguez wrote in message <376BEBC6...@ix.netcom.com>...
:Steve Harkins wrote:
:> Rich Rodriguez <rie...@ix.netcom.com> wrote
:
:> > Isn't Julia Child a USAn? ISTR she was an OSS employee in WWII. Also
:> > married to a State Department official.
:> Yes, she and her husband were spooks, and supposedly Peter Ustinov was as
:> well.
:>
:Actually, I thought it was his dad. I read a book two years ago written by a
:British spook (can't remember his name) about his life as a spy and the
:Philby/Burgess/MacLean debacle. He makes mention of meeting with Ustinov Sr.
:Apparently His Majesty's gov't had used him up and spit him out.
:
:Can't remember the name of the book, but it was an autobiography.
_Spycatcher_, by Peter Wright. Caused a great stink when the British
Government tried to stop the book being published on the grounds of Wright
having signed the Official Secrets Act. I think the court decided that the
law meant only that the book could not be published in the UK, but maybe they
weren't even that successful.
Ustinov Snr had apparently been useful to British Intelligence during WW2 due
to his knowledge of Russian. Somehow, he had slipped through the cracks
post-war, and had never received a service pension. Wright went to ask him
some questions relating to Russian moles and Mrs U. brought up the matter of
their poverty with no pension, much to Mr U.'s embarrassment, if I remember
aright. (At the time of which Wright wrote, Ustinov jr. was only just starting
to make a name for himself, and was not rich enough to help his parents live
in comfort - he probably only just managed to support himself) Wright jumped
up and down (metaphorically only of course, he actually kept an impeccably
stiff upper lip throughout)to get the pension granted, but Mr U. died not long
afterwards.
Vivienne "Wright retired to farm cows in Tasmania, boyhood home of Errol
Flynn" Smythe
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Caroline Blicq
"common knowledge"amongst the wait staff that if someone had a *really* bad
customer, that a good squirt of Visine in their coffee would bring on almost
immediate diarrhea "a la Dumb & Dumber".
I'd love to know if anyone else has heard this, and whether or not this has
any veracity to it.
- Caroline
Ben Donnelly wrote in message <375C8E9A...@med.unc.edu>...
>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
>
>Then, I lived in London for a year, and I noticed that the English let
>thier dishes drain, suds still on, though dripping off. There was no
>rinsing. And I ate from those dishes. No problem. I asked a friend who'd
>spent about an equal amount of her life in England and North America.
>She said she rinsed here, let the soap drip off in England.
>
>My wife, a young wife, recoils in horror if I do not adequately rinse
>the dishes. "Your asking for diarrhea," she says.
>
>Can the miniscule amount of soap left from dish detergent cause
>diarrhea?
>What amount of soap ingestion, if any, causes diarrhea?
>Do detergent manufactures keep the potential risk in mind- has dish
>detergent become less laxative over the years?
>Dawn as a weight loss method?
>
>Ben Diahnnoly
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Ben Donnelly
schwoebs
Hey, for some ding dang reason, my consarned mother made me eat tons of
dad blasted soap. It was exactly like in that friken fraken movie, A
Christmas Story. But you know what? I don't think it ever gave me
diarrhea.
I think a more likely culprit would be the bacteria that teems in your
(I don't necessarily mean yours) everyday household dishwater. A final
rinse not only removes the soap, but it removes the diarrhea germies.
Bill S.
Ben Donnelly wrote in message <375C8E9A...@med.unc.edu>...
>snip<
Lee Rudolph
>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
...
>My wife, a young wife, recoils in horror if I do not adequately rinse
>the dishes. "Your asking for diarrhea," she says.
...
*I* was indoctrinated with this belief by my father, an old Marine.
In his version, what you'd get was *dysentery*, and though he may
perhaps have first heard it from his mother (though I doubt it,
given her penchant for applying yellow Fels Naphtha laundry soap
to the oral mucosa of children she didn't like the sound of), he
*claimed* to have learned it during the Second Nicaraguan Campaign
(c. 1928).
Lee "Semper Di(arrhea)" Rudolph
Russell W. Schmidt
>On 8 Jun 1999 05:22:43 -0400, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph) wrote:
>
>>Ben Donnelly <be...@med.unc.edu> writes:
>>
>>>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>>>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
>>...
>>>My wife, a young wife, recoils in horror if I do not adequately rinse
>>>the dishes. "Your asking for diarrhea," she says.
>>...
>>
>>*I* was indoctrinated with this belief by my father, an old Marine.
>
>I used to go hunting with a very scary sergeant major, US Army, who
>argued with my idea of campsite cleanliness. (He won.) When I hauled
>out the soap to clean up our tin plates & utensils, he raised the
>point that the soap itself would produce a prodigious case of The
>Shits. To avoid such inconvenience, he "advised" taking a handful of
>soil and rubbing away the offending grease & food particles.
>
>Not sure whether it worked or not; it could have been coincidence. But
>no untoward digestive harm came to either of us on any of our hunting
>trips. By contrast, whenever Army dining took place in the boonies and
>hot soapy water was commonly used for cleanups, diarrhea was
>commonplace.
>
<¹~
Mexico used for backpacking by thousands of Boy Scouts each year) in about
1974. At that time they issued a powdered soap called tetrox that was
notorious for inducing diarrhea. Most of our group came down with the "tetrox
trots" one day after a rather sloppy job of rinsing the group's pots, so I can
verify that at least _some_ soap products will cause diarrhea when ingested in
relatively small amounts. However, I would expect that mainstream consumer
products would be carefully formulated to avoid this difficulty.
--
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Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc.
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Crash Johnson
So? When did you divorce your Mother?
Crashj 'just curious' Johnson
Phil Edwards
wrote:
>Then, I lived in London for a year, and I noticed that the English let
>thier dishes drain, suds still on, though dripping off. There was no
>rinsing. And I ate from those dishes. No problem. I asked a friend who'd
>spent about an equal amount of her life in England and North America.
>She said she rinsed here, let the soap drip off in England.
As fascinating as it is to learn about other people's national
stereotypes, I have to point out that I (an Englishperson) can't stand
the sight of dishes draining with visible froth attached. Statements
of the form "the English [do this]" are very rarely correct.
Phil "all alike" Edwards
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"Du är ju välkommen att kyssa mig i arslet, du jävla lutefisk."
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wwlu...@my-deja.com
i...@ornl.gov (Russell W. Schmidt) wrote:
<snip>
> I spent two weeks at Philmont Scout Ranch (a near-wilderness area in New
> >Mexico used for backpacking by thousands of Boy Scouts each year) in about
> >1974. At that time they issued a powdered soap called tetrox that was
> >notorious for inducing diarrhea. Most of our group came down with the "tetrox
> >trots" one day after a rather sloppy job of rinsing the group's pots, so I can
> >verify that at least _some_ soap products will cause diarrhea when ingested in
> >relatively small amounts. However, I would expect that mainstream consumer
> >products would be carefully formulated to avoid this difficulty.
<snip>
In about 1975, I went winter camping with my fellow Boy Scouts. The
scoutmaster and older kids told us to make sure to spend the time to
melt snow to get all of the soap off of the dishes. Needless to say,
we used lots of soap (ordinary dishwashing detergent), and did not do
a very good job rinsing. We all got the runs. Since the temperature
was well below freezing, I don't think it was food poisoning. In
addition, although this was a long time ago, I don't remember being
particularly sick; I just had to go a lot.
Wayne Lukens
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Larry Palletti
>Ben Donnelly <be...@med.unc.edu> writes:
>
>>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
>...
>>My wife, a young wife, recoils in horror if I do not adequately rinse
>>the dishes. "Your asking for diarrhea," she says.
>...
>
>*I* was indoctrinated with this belief by my father, an old Marine.
>In his version, what you'd get was *dysentery*, and though he may
>perhaps have first heard it from his mother (though I doubt it,
>given her penchant for applying yellow Fels Naphtha laundry soap
>to the oral mucosa of children she didn't like the sound of), he
>*claimed* to have learned it during the Second Nicaraguan Campaign
>(c. 1928).
I used to go hunting with a very scary sergeant major, US Army, who
argued with my idea of campsite cleanliness. (He won.) When I hauled
out the soap to clean up our tin plates & utensils, he raised the
point that the soap itself would produce a prodigious case of The
Shits. To avoid such inconvenience, he "advised" taking a handful of
soil and rubbing away the offending grease & food particles.
Not sure whether it worked or not; it could have been coincidence. But
no untoward digestive harm came to either of us on any of our hunting
trips. By contrast, whenever Army dining took place in the boonies and
hot soapy water was commonly used for cleanups, diarrhea was
commonplace.
Go figure.
Larry Palletti
East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
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Russell W. Schmidt
>In article <375ce8ae...@news.atl.bellsouth.net>,
> mince...@bellsouth.net (Larry Palletti) wrote:
>>
>>>Ben Donnelly <be...@med.unc.edu> writes:
>>>
>>>>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>>>>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
>>>...
>>>>My wife, a young wife, recoils in horror if I do not adequately rinse
>>>>the dishes. "Your asking for diarrhea," she says.
>>>...
>>>
>>>*I* was indoctrinated with this belief by my father, an old Marine.
>>
>>I used to go hunting with a very scary sergeant major, US Army, who
>>argued with my idea of campsite cleanliness. (He won.) When I hauled
>>out the soap to clean up our tin plates & utensils, he raised the
>>point that the soap itself would produce a prodigious case of The
>>Shits. To avoid such inconvenience, he "advised" taking a handful of
>>soil and rubbing away the offending grease & food particles.
>>
>>Not sure whether it worked or not; it could have been coincidence. But
>>no untoward digestive harm came to either of us on any of our hunting
>>trips. By contrast, whenever Army dining took place in the boonies and
>>hot soapy water was commonly used for cleanups, diarrhea was
>>commonplace.
>>
Sorry - something in my newsreader ate the first few lines of this. I was
saying:
I spent two weeks at Philmont Scout Ranch (a near-wilderness area in New
>Mexico used for backpacking by thousands of Boy Scouts each year) in about
>1974. At that time they issued a powdered soap called tetrox that was
>notorious for inducing diarrhea. Most of our group came down with the "tetrox
>trots" one day after a rather sloppy job of rinsing the group's pots, so I can
>verify that at least _some_ soap products will cause diarrhea when ingested in
>relatively small amounts. However, I would expect that mainstream consumer
>products would be carefully formulated to avoid this difficulty.
>
--
Deborah Stevenson
>So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the dishes of
>soap, lest we contract diarrhea. Don't eat soap was the basic idea.
[snip]
>Can the miniscule amount of soap left from dish detergent cause
>diarrhea?
>What amount of soap ingestion, if any, causes diarrhea?
Half a bar didn't manage it in my old Labrador cross. On that basis, I
doubt that less Palmolive than I can taste is going to do anything
particularly exciting to my intestines--otherwise wouldn't all those kids
washing their mouths out with soap for swearing have been rushed to
emergency rooms, or is it just dish soap that's supposed to have this
power? I wonder if somehow this is related to the old-fashioned soapsud
enema and the legend got its ingestion ends confused.
Maybe it's just my inner Brian speaking, but I'd be a lot more concerned
about the idea of my food tasting of soap. [If I weren't from the
Midwest, I'd insert a joke here about British food and flavor improvements
thereby...]
Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Ray Girvan
> Ben Donnelly <be...@med.unc.edu> writes:
>> So, my mother, and old wife, always warned us to rinse the
>> dishes of soap, lest we contract diarrhea.
> Maybe it's just my inner Brian speaking, but I'd be a lot more
> concerned about the idea of my food tasting of soap. [If I
> weren't from the Midwest, I'd insert a joke here about British
> food and flavor improvements thereby...]
A lot of foul British food habits are at least changing. Now that
the generation that developed its cooking habits in WW2 is dying out,
food is getting far more cosmopolitan. I'd guess that era probably
shaped washing-up habits too: thinking of rinsing as a waste of hot water.
The other argued-about aspect is whether to dry or drain: a lot
of older people have a tidiness fetish, and smear dishes half-dry
with a stinky old cloth because they can't *bear* seeing the crockery
not put away immediately after the meal.
Unfortunately, the latest anal-retentive craze is antibacterial
agents: utensils and surfaces impregnated, and more to slosh around
the kitchen around the kitchen.
Ray "superbugs on toast, please" Girvan
Chris Thayer
> It does seems to be a widespread military belief. My uncle was stationed in
> Japan and worked the kitchen. He always told us about the time the
> dishwasher didn't rinse the soap off the dishes and the entire base lined
> up for the bathrooms.
I remember being on KP in Army basic training, and having the cook pour
a packet of lemon Kool-Ade into the rinse sink. I would wash the big
pots and pans and dip them into this rinse water. The cook's
explanation was that the citric acid cut any grease left on the pots by
my poor efforts. Current sanitation practice for handwashing pots and
utensils is to have one sink with hot soapy water, the middle sink empty
for rinsing with running water, and the third sink filled with water
containing a sanitizing agent, usually bleach, into which the articles
are dipped prior to letting them air-dry.
--
Chris
All power to the penguin
Phil Edwards
Stevenson) wrote:
>[If I weren't from the
>Midwest, I'd insert a joke here about British food and flavor improvements
>thereby...]
Steady.
I've got a pound's worth[1] of Colston Bassett blue Stilton in the
fridge, and I'm not afraid to use it. And some Patum Peperium.
Phil "small doses" Edwards
[1] Which isn't a lot, alas.
Bob Church
Ray Girvan <ray.g...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>I wonder if it's a piece of military folklore connected with
>malingering tricks? Harry Harrison's 'Bill, the Galactic Hero' has
>an army old-timer claiming "I ate some laundry soap and got the trots
>the morning of Waterloo". OK, it's SF, but much of the military
>background draws on Harrison's own army experience.
>
>Ray "don't eat the toothpaste, dear" Girvan
>
It does seems to be a widespread military belief. My uncle was stationed in
Japan and worked the kitchen. He always told us about the time the
dishwasher didn't rinse the soap off the dishes and the entire base lined
up for the bathrooms.
Bob Church
Ben Donnelly
maybe that's why we have such fat bottoms.
Ben "over-sexed, over-fed, yet not over-here" Donnelly
Phil Edwards wrote:
>
> On Mon, 07 Jun 1999 23:31:38 -0400, Ben Donnelly <be...@med.unc.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >Then, I lived in London for a year, and I noticed that the English let
> >thier dishes drain, suds still on, though dripping off. There was no
> >rinsing. And I ate from those dishes. No problem. I asked a friend who'd
> >spent about an equal amount of her life in England and North America.
> >She said she rinsed here, let the soap drip off in England.
>
> As fascinating as it is to learn about other people's national
> stereotypes, I have to point out that I (an Englishperson) can't stand
> the sight of dishes draining with visible froth attached. Statements
> of the form "the English [do this]" are very rarely correct.
>
> Phil "all alike" Edwards
> --
> Phil Edwards http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/amroth/
> "Du är ju välkommen att kyssa mig i arslet, du jävla lutefisk."
> - Henry Wilhem raises the tone
--
Phil Edwards
>Here's a theory I have and maybe someone from England could respond for us:
>Is the dish detergent used more environmentally friendly and biologically
>breaks down after a short period of time? Is it due to water conservation,
>possibly started during W.W.II?
I haven't the faintest idea why the English diverged from the USAn
(and Italian) norm, or when we did it, or for that matter if we did it
at all - we may always have washed the dishes this way. Assuming we
(as a nation) do, and I don't know about that either.
Phil "I do know one thing more than Socrates, however" Edwards
Janie
dishes. Never was sick either (at least not from the dishes, the tequila
maybe). The Italians rinse, though. We rinsed everything in
hot-as-you-can-stand-it water in Texas.
Here's a theory I have and maybe someone from England could respond for us:
Is the dish detergent used more environmentally friendly and biologically
breaks down after a short period of time? Is it due to water conservation,
possibly started during W.W.II? I noticed the Brits are diligent recyclers
(bravo) and very conscious of the detergents (bleach) used.
Janester
Ben Donnelly ha scritto nel messaggio <375C8E9A...@med.unc.edu>...
Phil Edwards
wrote:
>didn't intend to generalize- Americans seem to do that -
>maybe that's why we have such fat bottoms.
You know, I had wondered about that.
Phil "does the fish have chips?" Edwards
wozzek
has anyone ever seen the repulsive, british chefs known as _two fat
ladies_?
Paul Herzberg
Yes, it is on telly after all.
Cheers
Paul "your point being?" Herzberg
