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Luke Wilson

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Apr 25, 1994, 11:22:52 PM4/25/94
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There's an entry in the FAQ about a Medical School lecturer getting his
students to test urine sugar level by dipping their fingers in the urine
and tasting it, then telling them the secret was to lick a different
finger than the one you dipped. ((Or at least something similar)).

This (exactly as described above) is actually True (not false as claimed
in the FAQ).
I was watching a documentary last week from the BBC, called 'Doctors To
Be'. It follows a class of medical students through their entire
training by the look of things (it's a ten parter I think).
Anyhow - getting back to the point... The first episode showed their
first lecture for one of their subjects, and the lecturer did the dip
test.


cask...@ix.wcc.govt.nz

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Apr 27, 1994, 8:01:24 AM4/27/94
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In article <2pi1ec$7...@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>, lu...@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Luke Wilson) writes:
=There's an entry in the FAQ about a Medical School lecturer getting his
=students to test urine sugar level by dipping their fingers in the urine
=and tasting it, then telling them the secret was to lick a different
=finger than the one you dipped. ((Or at least something similar)).
=
=This (exactly as described above) is actually True (not false as claimed
=in the FAQ).
=I was watching a documentary last week from the BBC, called 'Doctors To
=Be'. It follows a class of medical students through their entire
=training by the look of things (it's a ten parter I think).
=Anyhow - getting back to the point... The first episode showed their
=first lecture for one of their subjects, and the lecturer did the dip
=test.

This "test" has also been attributed to the Dr Bell (first name eludes me
and I'm too idle to look it up) claimed to have been Arthur Conan-Doyle's
inspiration for Sherlock Holmes.

Whether the attribution is true or not (and if not, when then attribution
originated) I have no idea. The main thing is, it's an _old_ trick. There
is no earthly reason why it can't have been used many times.

Steve "observe how I dip my finger in this beaker of aqua regia..." Caskey
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Steve Caskey (cask...@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz) {ViRo}
Disclaimer: If anyone cared what I thought, I'd be rich and famous.
Explicit hoc totum; Pro Christo da mihi potum
(The job is done, I think; For Christ's sake give me a drink)

S. Mudgett aka little gator

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Apr 28, 1994, 8:48:06 AM4/28/94
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In <2plk6k$r...@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, cask...@ix.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <2pi1ec$7...@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>, lu...@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Luke Wilson) writes:
>=There's an entry in the FAQ about a Medical School lecturer getting his
>=students to test urine sugar level by dipping their fingers in the urine
>=and tasting it, then telling them the secret was to lick a different
>=finger than the one you dipped. ((Or at least something similar)).
>=
speaking of piss tests, i heard this story from someone i met while
watching the boston marathon(or as some call it, the masochist's parade).
i go to natick every year and hand out water from a parking lot at the
corner of route 135 and claredon st.

this year i met a woman who told me that her brother's friend had
just gotten himself a job at a home depot store, which has a sign
on the front door of each store saying that they pisstest all employees.
she said he lost the job because he started just before the patriot's
day weekend. he ran the marathon that year, and being in lousy shape
he took over five hours. the next day he crawled back to work and that
was the day he had his pee tested. he still had lots of endorphins in his
system and they caused him to test positive for some illegal drug(she
coudln't remember which one).

has anyone else heard this one?
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-- little gator aka s. mudgett email: s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine

Helge Moulding

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Apr 28, 1994, 4:02:06 PM4/28/94
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Luke Wilson questions the FAQ, based on information from a BBC documentary:
: There's an entry in the FAQ [...]
: This (exactly as described above) is actually True (not false as claimed
: in the FAQ).
: I was watching a documentary last week from the BBC, [...]

Luke! Let go of your mind! Use the FAQ!

First of all, there used to be an entry that said something like,
"Some smart-alecky professors act out ULs to make them come true."
Maybe that was in the afc FAQ.

Then there is also the idea that, just because something is based on
fact, it may still be a UL. Look up the definition.

Finally, I'd question any BBC documentary just on principal.
--
Helge "Otherwise I'd think spaghetti grows on trees" Moulding
(Just another guy with a simple .sig)

EYLERJS

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Apr 30, 1994, 2:44:00 PM4/30/94
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In article <1994Apr28.2...@unislc.slc.unisys.com>, h...@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Helge Moulding) writes...

>Luke Wilson questions the FAQ, based on information from a BBC documentary:
>: There's an entry in the FAQ [...]
>: This (exactly as described above) is actually True (not false as claimed
>: in the FAQ).
>: I was watching a documentary last week from the BBC, [...]
>Finally, I'd question any BBC documentary just on principal.
>--
> Helge "Otherwise I'd think spaghetti grows on trees" Moulding
> (Just another guy with a simple .sig)

My mother who went to nursing school in 1936 tells that 'true story' about the
urine test for diabetes and the professor who dipped the wrong finger from her
days in nursing school. So it has been around awhile. [of course, maybe she
actually read it in Readers Digest in the 40s and just shopped it to us later.]


Ray Depew

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May 2, 1994, 12:36:32 PM5/2/94
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Helge Moulding (h...@unislc.slc.unisys.com) wrote:

: Finally, I'd question any BBC documentary just on principal.

The poor guy. All he wanted to do was run an elementary school, and now
you're accusing him of cheapening the Beeb.

R
R

Chris Grace

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May 2, 1994, 5:09:37 AM5/2/94
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In message <<H.eg._j4...@harvee.billerica.ma.us>> s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us writes:
>>In article <2pi1ec$7...@ccu2.auckland.ac.nz>, lu...@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Luke Wilson) writes:
>>=There's an entry in the FAQ about a Medical School lecturer getting his
>>=students to test urine sugar level by dipping their fingers in the urine
>>=and tasting it, then telling them the secret was to lick a different
>>=finger than the one you dipped. ((Or at least something similar)).

Strangely enough I saw this done on TV last week in a BBC TV series
about Doctor training....

I couldn't work out if it was genuine Urine, but someunfortunate student
was hauled out in front of the class and made to test the Urine, and he
appeared to do it!

Lee Rudolph

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May 5, 1994, 7:43:47 AM5/5/94
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In alt.folklore.urban, s...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka
little gator) writes:

>speaking of piss tests, i heard this story from someone i met while
>watching the boston marathon(or as some call it, the masochist's parade).
>i go to natick every year and hand out water from a parking lot at the
>corner of route 135 and claredon st.

>this year i met a woman who told me that her brother's friend had
>just gotten himself a job at a home depot store, which has a sign
>on the front door of each store saying that they pisstest all employees.
>she said he lost the job because he started just before the patriot's
>day weekend. he ran the marathon that year, and being in lousy shape
>he took over five hours. the next day he crawled back to work and that
>was the day he had his pee tested. he still had lots of endorphins in his
>system and they caused him to test positive for some illegal drug(she
>coudln't remember which one).

>has anyone else heard this one?

You're the first person I've heard it from, but it certainly sounds
possible.

I've re-cross-posted this to a.f.suburban, and since I want to add a
little signal of my own but really don't know marathons from Mars,
I'll just say that I have a photograph I took myself (in a French
suburb!) of an international "don't do this" icon to indicate
"no pissing allowed": a man's sillhouette in a circle, with a stream
of piss flying, and a diagonal stripe across the whole thing.

There's actually a lot of European piss-art folklore, but it isn't
exactly urban *legends* so perhaps it would be off-charter in
Joel's half of the Newsgroups: line.

Lee "will this be on the test?" Rudolph

russell dusseault

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May 6, 1994, 2:20:02 AM5/6/94
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I had a teacher in high school (Newton North High School, Newton Ma.)
who told us during WW2 that when they ran out of supplies, and had to
test urine for sugar content, they'd just dip their fingers into the
stuff.
It seems like this tone could be answered pretty easily, from this
direction, but you know....
I've read worse things than this elsewhere on the net. Is this really
the stuff that legends are made of?
Russ "Man, whether it really happened or not, someone just do it and
it'll be solved..." Dusseault

Helge Moulding

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May 9, 1994, 11:18:32 AM5/9/94
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russell dusseault has no patience for us fuddy duddies, and requests,
: Russ "Man, whether it really happened or not, someone just do it and

: it'll be solved..." Dusseault
Actually, this is a second question: can an intrepid soul save on
expensive strips of treated paper, and rely on oral evidence?

The issue, as I have been reading it, originally revolved around the
question if any prof, or any other dementite, has ever tricked his
or her charges into licking what was supposed to be piss off their
digits. I say that a lot of profs may have fantasized on it (my own
organic chemistry prof claimed that it happened to illustrate the
need to carefully observe every detail of a demonstration), but none
have actually had the nerve to do it.

Whether or not the sugar content of diabetic piss is detectable by
tasting is, to my mind, a separate question, and probably false... I
dare you to prove me wrong! (I think that there are too many com-
ponents to urine, to be able to reliably say, "It's sweet, so it must
come from a diabetic.")

--
Helge "Americans would think it's beer..." Moulding

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