Snapple and the KKK?
Helge Moulding
todd...@mailcity.com wrote:
> they claim the owner's of Snapple are the KKK or backed by them.
Yeah, we heard that here. The FAQ sez,
F.*Snapple either supports Operations Rescue/KKK and/or the ship on the
label is a slave ship.
That * points us to the website at www.urbanlegends.com, where at
http://www.urbanlegends.com/products/snapple/index.html we can read
all about it.
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Helge "What about the rumor that AFU supports the
illuminati, or is supported by them?" Moulding
mailto:h...@slc.unisys.com Just another guy
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1401 with a weird name
Mitcho
todd...@mailcity.com wrote:
>. Can
> anyone shed any light on this as to who may own Snapple or any other
> helpful information, so that my friend can continue to enjoy the fruity
> drink without guilt?
From the Motley Fool, 12 May 97:
QUAKER OATS (NYSE: OAT) discovered a buyer for its troubled Snapple unit,
passing the money-losing operation on to beverage concern TRIARC COMPANIES
(NYSE: TRY). In an attempt to live up to its ticker symbol, Triarc agreed to
give the Snapple operation a shot after Quaker had managed to ride the unit
into the ground over the past three years.
Delaware-based Triarc is best known for owning the Royal Crown brand of soda,
the Arby's chain of fast food restaurants, and the Mistic brand of flavored
iced teas. The company also owns a number of other units unrelated to the food
and beverage industry, including National Propane and dye and chemical
developer C.H. Patrick.
Quaker Oats purchased Snapple in 1994 for $1.7 billion and the line of
flavored iced teas has been a disaster ever since.
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David A Shulman
About a year ago, there was a report on 20/20 about "Myths in the Black
community" or "how white and black people see things differently."
Anyhow, the people who believd the rumor supported it with two reasons:
1. The picture of the ship on the bottle was a slave ship showing blacks
being brought into slavery.
This is ridiculous. The picture was of the Boston TEA party. (Get
it-- Snapple Iced TEA, Boston TEA party.
But Snapple subsequently changed the picutre on the ship on the
bottle. It is still a ship, but it is more apparent that it is not a slave
ship.
2. There was a big K on the bottle, and this must mean that they are in
the KKK.
In truth, the K stands for Kosher (why they couldn't get an OU was
not explained). However, Snapple changed this too. Now I think instead or
in addition to a big K it actually says Kosher. (I think, I don't have a
bottle in front of me).
I think that this was just one of those rumors started (like Calvin Klein
in the KKK, Tommy Hilf saying something about "niggers and chinks wearing
his clothing), Liz Clairbore and Satan) that someone started and just
stuck.
todd...@mailcity.com (todd...@mailcity.com) wrote:
: I was with a black friend of mine the other day and we stopped off to
: get something to drink at the local convienence store. I grabbed a
: Snapple(Pink Lemonade if you must know) and so did he. As we left the
: store he proceeded to inform me that quite a few of his black friends
: are appalled when he shows up drinking the refreshing drink since they
: claim the owner's of Snapple are the KKK or backed by them. Of course I
: tried to pry any information I could from him but to no avail. Can
: anyone shed any light on this as to who may own Snapple or any other
: helpful information, so that my friend can continue to enjoy the fruity
: drink without guilt?
--
Robert Alston
>--
> Helge "What about the rumor that AFU supports the
> illuminati, or is supported by them?" Moulding
There is NO connection between AFU Inc. and the illuminati. AFU Inc. is
totally self-supporting and as such needs no help from the Illuminati. In fact
the Illuminati are happy that AFU Inc. is.... Uh where are those helicopter
noises coming from? ... &*(^&*%^&$% NO CARRIER
chakravorty bonnie jean
Rumors and ULs in the Black community are discussed in thye book "I Heard
it Through the Grapevine"
Ray Depew
Robert Alston (Rom...@trader.com) wrote:
: There is NO connection between AFU Inc. and the illuminati. AFU Inc. is
: totally self-supporting and as such needs no help from the Illuminati. In fact
: the Illuminati are happy that AFU Inc. is.... Uh where are those helicopter
: noises coming from? ... &*(^&*%^&$% NO CARRIER
I don't know what you're talking about. AFU Inc., an international
subsidiary of AFU GmbH, has its own helicopter.
Helicopters, actually.
And one of 'em is this really cool black ship that looks like a
jazzed-up Bell Executive but reminds me of wolf with wings.
Regards
Ray Depew
Chairman, Curator and Headmaster of The Axeman Institute
Bottom floor, One AFU Plaza
axe...@afuinc.com
Lee Rudolph
ptom...@xcski.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:
>Triarc, Trilateral Comission, what's the difference?
Didn't Monty Python commision a trilateral record?
Lee "Month Python, AFU Boa, what's the difference?" Rudolph
Greg Kettell
David A Shulman <dshu...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in article
<5nnjcd$gf5$1...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>...
> About a year ago, there was a report on 20/20 about "Myths in the Black
> community" or "how white and black people see things differently."
>
> Anyhow, the people who believd the rumor supported it with two reasons:
>
> 1. The picture of the ship on the bottle was a slave ship showing blacks
> being brought into slavery.
>
> This is ridiculous. The picture was of the Boston TEA party. (Get
> it-- Snapple Iced TEA, Boston TEA party.
>
> But Snapple subsequently changed the picutre on the ship on the
> bottle. It is still a ship, but it is more apparent that it is not a
slave
> ship.
>
> 2. There was a big K on the bottle, and this must mean that they are in
> the KKK.
>
> In truth, the K stands for Kosher (why they couldn't get an OU was
> not explained). However, Snapple changed this too. Now I think instead
or
> in addition to a big K it actually says Kosher. (I think, I don't have a
> bottle in front of me).
>
On the Snapple bottle I have in front of me, the picture is actually
labelled "THE BOSTON TEA PARTY" now to avoid any confusion. After the (K),
it says KOSHER PAREVE.
MMM
Dan Traut wrote:
>
> The reason (or so I hear) that Snapple and the KKK are linked is because
> of a 'k' in a circle on each label. 'They' are a little off, though --
> it's a symbol that the product is kosher.
> --
> "Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger."
> -Abbie Hoffman
Isn't there a chain of convenience stores called "Circle K"? How have
they avoided the rumour?
MMM
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Andrew Reid
todd...@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> I was with a black friend of mine the other day and we stopped off to
> get something to drink at the local convienence store. I grabbed a
> Snapple(Pink Lemonade if you must know) and so did he. As we left the
> store he proceeded to inform me that quite a few of his black friends
> are appalled when he shows up drinking the refreshing drink since they
> claim the owner's of Snapple are the KKK or backed by them.
The whole Snapple/Quaker thing got a good write-up, including
some discussion of the KKK rumor, in the Chicago Reader a couple
of weeks ago. The Chicago Reader is a free weekly newspaper, mostly
about entertainment listings, so I'm not sure how widely it's
circulated, and while they do have a web-site, they don't appear
to have an electronic archive. Home of the "Straight Dope", too,
of course.
Andrew "http://www.chireader.com/" Reid
JoAnne Schmitz
On 12 Jun 97 19:47:14 GMT, "Greg Kettell" <no@email> wrote:
>David A Shulman <dshu...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in article
><5nnjcd$gf5$1...@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu>...
>> About a year ago, there was a report on 20/20 about "Myths in the Black
>> community" or "how white and black people see things differently."
>>
>> Anyhow, the people who believd the rumor supported it with two reasons:
>>
>> 1. The picture of the ship on the bottle was a slave ship showing blacks
>> being brought into slavery.
>>
>> This is ridiculous. The picture was of the Boston TEA party. (Get
>> it-- Snapple Iced TEA, Boston TEA party.
>>
>> But Snapple subsequently changed the picutre on the ship on the
>> bottle. It is still a ship, but it is more apparent that it is not a
>slave
>> ship.
>>
>On the Snapple bottle I have in front of me, the picture is actually
>labelled "THE BOSTON TEA PARTY" now to avoid any confusion. After the (K),
>it says KOSHER PAREVE.
Well, here's a dumb history question from a dumb history-forgettin'
person.
Were the tea ships ever also used in that triangular trade thingy of
Rum, Sugar, Slaves? Didn't many of the Boston shippers have a hand in
the slave trade? Are slave ships always built differently from tea
ships?
JoAnne "am I stupid enough for AOL yet?" Schmitz
Mr. Richard S. Cisak jr
This reminds me of a few other stories I have heard:
That a certain brand of soft drink (TRopical Supreme, or something like
that), popular in black neighborhoods, was supposed to make black men
sterile. Eventually, the guy who manufactured the drink sued a local
Coke distributor for spreading this story and almost putting hime out
of business.
Another one still making the rounds is that AIDS was created in a CIA
laboratory to commit genocide on "undesirables". An interesting story
in light of the fact that the Nation of Islam teaches that white people
were created in a laboratory by a mad scientist intent on punishing
black people.
Rich...@prodigy.com
See Rich's Stupid Homepage at http://pages.prodigy.com/RichCisak
Ronnie J. Dean
> 2. There was a big K on the bottle, and this must mean that they are in the KKK.
In truth, the K stands for Kosher (why they couldn't get an OU
Snapple was started and I think is still owned by Jewish buisinessmen.
Unless the KKK have REALLY changed over the past few years I doubt if
they would have these men in their organization. Now how about some
music by 311.
Ron J. Dean
JoAnne Schmitz
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:09:53 -0700, MMM <junk...@device.nul> wrote:
>Dan Traut wrote:
>>
>> The reason (or so I hear) that Snapple and the KKK are linked is because
>> of a 'k' in a circle on each label. 'They' are a little off, though --
>> it's a symbol that the product is kosher.
>> --
>> "Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger."
>> -Abbie Hoffman
>
>Isn't there a chain of convenience stores called "Circle K"? How have
>they avoided the rumour?
I'd like to know how Southern States (you know, the ones with the
lightning-looking black SS in a red circle on a white background as
their symbol) manage to not be associated with the Nazis.
JoAnne "or maybe they are" Schmitz
-----------------------------------
Wow. You sure sound like a NAZI to me. I think HITLER would have
talked this way. I am sure that you and all your NAZI buddies want
HITLER to come back soon. Yeah, I said HITLER, you want to make
something of it?
Rick Tyler, exorcising a bad thread
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Maggie Newman
Mr. Richard S. Cisak jr <VTC...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>That a certain brand of soft drink (TRopical Supreme, or something like
>that), popular in black neighborhoods, was supposed to make black men
>sterile. Eventually, the guy who manufactured the drink sued a local
>Coke distributor for spreading this story and almost putting hime out
>of business.
According to Patricia Turner in _I Heard It Through the Grapevine_, the
owners of Tropical Fantasy strongly believed that the rumors were
started not by local distributors but by the truck drivers who delivered
Coke and Pepsi (see p. 170). I've never heard that a lawsuit was filed,
though.
Maggie "Temperate Fantasy" Newman
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Mark Brader
David Kaye
todd...@mailcity.com wrote the quoted material below:
" anyone shed any light on this as to who may own Snapple or any other
" helpful information, so that my friend can continue to enjoy the fruity
" drink without guilt?
One of the Snapple labels had a ship on it, symbolizing the Boston Tea
Party, when the Colonists in America dumped tea overboard to protest high
taxes from England on tea. Someone started the story that the ship was
really a slave ship.
--
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dk at wco.com survive to adulthood than in 1960.
Mitcho
Len Berlind wrote:
>
> >Are slave ships always built differently from tea
> >ships?
>
> for speed in order to outrun the warships which were used to
> interdict the trade. Capacity and durability were secondary
> considerations.
Just a question here: During the time of the Boston Tea Party, slavery was
legal in Britain and her colonies (or, mebbe just her colonies), and was
presumably part of a legitimate trade. Since Britain was the major
transatlantic naval power of the time, whose warships were these slavers
designed to outrun?
I recently read a humorous novel (part of the Fraser _Flashman_ series)
which included what seemed like a pretty detailed description of a slave
ship of the 1840s or 1850s. By that time, the trade in slaves was certainly
outlawed by the British, but the slave ship was still of a distinctive
design owing to its cargo (it would also have to be able to carry sugar and
manufactured goods to use in trading for the slaves in Africa). According
to the book, it wasn't obvious it was a slave ship until one was aboard,
since the camoflage was necessary to avoid notice by British patrols.
I'm not sure what the USAn position on the slave trade was by the 1850s. In
any case, this is good 80 years after the American Revolution.
All this aside, how dumb do you have to be to think a beverege company would
purposely decorate its bottles with images of slave ships[1]?
Mitcho
[1] Mitcho's guess: pretty dumb.
Don Erickson
Mitcho <mit...@netcom.com> sez:
>I'm not sure what the USAn position on the slave trade was by the 1850s. In
>any case, this is good 80 years after the American Revolution.
The United States abolished the importation of slaves in 1808. In a
phenomenon unique in the New World, the population of slaves actually
increased naturally in the American South, the birth rate being greater
than the death rate.
These two factors were largely responsible for the fact that 99% of the
slaves freed in 1865 were Americans, not Africans.
-Don 'citing Kolchin's _American Slavery 1619-1877_' Erickson
--
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Len Berlind
>> The canonical slave ship was the "Baltimore Clipper" type. It was built
>> for speed in order to outrun the warships which were used to
>> interdict the trade. Capacity and durability were secondary
>> considerations.
>
>Just a question here: During the time of the Boston Tea Party, slavery was
>legal in Britain and her colonies (or, mebbe just her colonies), and was
>presumably part of a legitimate trade. Since Britain was the major
>transatlantic naval power of the time, whose warships were these slavers
>designed to outrun?
The Baltimore Clipper appeared in the slave trade some time after the
'Merkin revolution. The were treaties in effect to suppress the trade
but they weren't taken seriously until Napoleon got his ass kicked for
the final time.
From _The Baltimore Clipper_, by H.I. Chapelle:
"The first attempts at suppressing the slave trade actually began at about
the end of the Napoleonic Wars but did not reach a full measure of
success until about 1828, when the force of what was practically a
blockade of the African Coast and the West Indies was felt...Until the end
of the Napoleonic Wars, slaving ships were generally large and often under
government supervision. While of some importance to evade enemy cruisers,
speed was not a leading factor in the design. Capacity, comfort and
handiness were of far greater importance, and they were run with the same
type of crews and officers that were employed in the merchant marine."
It was at this point that the BC and similar designs became the ships of
choice for slave traders.
So...the original question was whether or not ships in the tea trade to
prerevolutionary 'Merka were also used in the slave trade.
L"The answer is a definite maybe."B
Clive D.W. Feather
In article <33A447...@netcom.com>, Mitcho <mit...@netcom.com> writes
>I recently read a humorous novel (part of the Fraser _Flashman_ series)
>which included what seemed like a pretty detailed description of a slave
>ship of the 1840s or 1850s.
Though these are novels, and both humorous and enjoyable ones at that,
George McDonald Fraser is reckoned by most people to put a lot of
research into each one.
Clive "I once used _Flashman's_Lady_ as an authority in AFU" Feather
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Rotes Sapiens
On 12 Jun 97 04:39:17 GMT, Rom...@trader.com (Robert Alston) wrote:
>> Helge "What about the rumor that AFU supports the
>> illuminati, or is supported by them?" Moulding
>There is NO connection between AFU Inc. and the illuminati. AFU Inc. is
>totally self-supporting and as such needs no help from the Illuminati. In fact
>the Illuminati are happy that AFU Inc. is.... Uh where are those helicopter
>noises coming from? ... &*(^&*%^&$% NO CARRIER
I had some luck with an American explaining what a chigger is (a
little red bug usually found in plants, but are they blood sucking?)
So what is the illuminati?
PCo...@harris.com
In article <5nsec2$5e...@newssvr02-int.news.prodigy.com>,
VTC...@prodigy.com (Mr. Richard S. Cisak jr) wrote:
An interesting story
> in light of the fact that the Nation of Islam teaches that white people
> were created in a laboratory by a mad scientist intent on punishing
> black people.
> Rich...@prodigy.com
> See Rich's Stupid Homepage at http://pages.prodigy.com/RichCisak
Seriously ?? I think Rev. Louie just said this in jest one evening at the
Mosque after downing a pint of MD 20/20. I wouldn't think that the high
level of inteligence of the NOI members would allow them to actually
believe this. Reminds me of a Puerto-Rican I knew in Korea who told the
bar girls that the blacks all grew tails after mid-night, just so he
could have a better "choice" at the end of the evening.
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Simon Slavin
In article <33a243db...@192.189.54.145>,
r...@redplanet.mars.com.cy (Rotes Sapiens) wrote:
> So what is the illuminati?
see Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson: _Illuminatus !_, 1975
a trilogy starting with
Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson: _The Eye in the Pyramid_, 1975
The fact that it's not all true shouldn't stop you reading it.
Simon.
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Kyle Hall
JoAnne Schmitz (jsch...@qis.net.deleteme!) wrote:
: On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:09:53 -0700, MMM <junk...@device.nul> wrote:
: I'd like to know how Southern States (you know, the ones with the
: lightning-looking black SS in a red circle on a white background as
: their symbol) manage to not be associated with the Nazis.
: JoAnne "or maybe they are" Schmitz
or how about chevrolet? impala SS, camaro SS, malibu SS???
all nazi transports, i'd wager.
i just passed a southern states the other day. i thought
they'd gone out of business. nice to see they're still around.
k.
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Kyle Hall wrote:
>
> JoAnne Schmitz (jsch...@qis.net.deleteme!) wrote:
> : On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:09:53 -0700, MMM <junk...@device.nul> wrote:
> or how about chevrolet? impala SS, camaro SS, malibu SS???
> all nazi transports, i'd wager.
>
what about KISS?!
...dont mind me...
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