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U-E68971-Paul Joslin

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Jan 17, 1992, 1:13:48 PM1/17/92
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In message <kna3pj...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, Peter "no .sigs" vdL
writes:
>[The doofuses that posted alleged "corrections" that were so
>plainly inferior in wit and wisdom, should consider the above
>advice of WC himself.]

>Does anyone have any other Churchill stories?

At an elegant dinner party, Churchill was seated next to an
overbearing woman. When he could stand her no more, he asked, "Would
you sleep with me for a million dollars?"

"Yes", she replied.

"How about five dollars?", Churchill countered.

"Of course not", she exclaimed, "What do you think I am, a common
whore?"

Churchill responded, "So I guess a blowjob is out of the question?"


OBInsideJoke: Why should PvdL have all the fun?

The Nashville Flash

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Jan 17, 1992, 1:59:41 PM1/17/92
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At an elegant dinner party, Churchill was seated next to an overbearing woman.
When he could stand her no more, he asked, "Would you sleep with a man for a
million pounds?"

"Yes", she replied.

"Would you sleep with me for five pounds?", Churchill countered.

"Of course not", she exclaimed, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"

Churchill responded, "I thought we had already established that and were just
haggling over the price."
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Robert M. Unverzagt

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Jan 17, 1992, 3:11:52 PM1/17/92
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In article <1992Jan17....@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> d...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>At an elegant dinner party, Churchill was seated next to an overbearing woman.
>When he could stand her no more, he asked, "Would you sleep with a man for a
>million pounds?"
>
>"Yes", she replied.
>
>"Would you sleep with me for five pounds?", Churchill countered.
>
>"Of course not", she exclaimed, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"
>
>Churchill responded, "I thought we had already established that and were just
>haggling over the price."
>

This story is often (usually?) attributed to Benjamin Disraeli.

Shag


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Robert M. Unverzagt

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Jan 17, 1992, 3:13:39 PM1/17/92
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In article <1992Jan17....@aero.org> sh...@aero.org (Robert M. Unverzagt) writes:
>In article <1992Jan17....@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> d...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>>At an elegant dinner party, Churchill was seated next to an overbearing woman.
>>When he could stand her no more, he asked, "Would you sleep with a man for a
>>million pounds?"
>>
>>"Yes", she replied.
>>
>>"Would you sleep with me for five pounds?", Churchill countered.
>>
>>"Of course not", she exclaimed, "What kind of woman do you think I am?"
>>
>>Churchill responded, "I thought we had already established that and were just
>>haggling over the price."
>>
>
>This story is often (usually?) attributed to Benjamin Disraeli.
>

Or George Bernard Shaw. I can't remember which.

IC...@asuacad.bitnet

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Jan 17, 1992, 6:34:12 PM1/17/92
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In article <1992Jan17....@aero.org>, sh...@aero.org (Robert M. Unverzagt)
says:

>
>>This story is often (usually?) attributed to Benjamin Disraeli.
>>
>
>Or George Bernard Shaw. I can't remember which.
>
Or Henry Morgan.
Loyd Means

Larry M Headlund

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Jan 18, 1992, 3:13:13 PM1/18/92
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Original Story:
Politician A: You will either die on the gallows or the of the pox.
Politician B: That depends on if I embrace your principles or your
mistress.

For historical family reasons it is extermely unlikely that WSC
would make a joke about death from VD.

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Ted Frank

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Jan 18, 1992, 6:14:25 PM1/18/92
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Is there any way to set my kill file to wipe out the irony-impaired?
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Phil Gustafson

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Jan 19, 1992, 6:25:49 PM1/19/92
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In article <1992Jan18.2...@midway.uchicago.edu> th...@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Is there any way to set my kill file to wipe out the irony-impaired?
>--

As a famous comedian suggested, I tried turning up the "Brightness"
knob on my monitor. Didn't work.


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Paul Falstad

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Jan 20, 1992, 12:32:30 AM1/20/92
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josli...@ae.ge.com wrote on 17 Jan 92 18:13:48 GMT:

>In message <kna3pj...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, Peter "no .sigs" vdL
>writes:
>>Does anyone have any other Churchill stories?
>
>At an elegant dinner party, Churchill was seated next to an
>overbearing woman. When he could stand her no more, he asked, "Would
>you sleep with me for a million dollars?"

Thought you might be interested in this; I read it in "Dave Barry Slept Here".

The last bastion of goodness was Great Britain, a feisty, plucky little
island in the North Atlantic led by Prime Minister Winston Churchill, who
had won the respect and loyalty of the British people for his ability to
come up with clever insults at dinner parties. For example, there was the
famous one where this woman says to him, "Lord Churchill, you're drunk!"
And he replies, "Madam, I may be drunk, but BLEAAARRRGGGHHH" all over her
evening gown. Churchill used this gift of eloquence to rally his countrymen
when Britain was down to a three-day supply of pluck and a German invasion
seemed imminent. "We shall fight them on the beaches," he said. "We shall
fight them in the streets, and in the alleys, and in those things where
it's like a dead end, only there's like a circle at the end, you know?
Cul somethings."

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Brian Scearce

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Jan 20, 1992, 1:00:11 AM1/20/92
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ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
> As a famous comedian suggested, I tried turning up the "Brightness"
> knob on my monitor. Didn't work.

None of those knobs seem to work properly. I turned up the "volume"
on my television, and it stayed exactly the same size.

Brian "And Channel No. 5 smells the same as all the rest" Scearce
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Jack Campin

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Jan 20, 1992, 1:22:52 PM1/20/92
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l...@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) wrote:
> Original Story:
>> Politician A: You will either die on the gallows or the of the pox.
>> Politician B: That depends on if I embrace your principles or your
>> mistress.
> For historical family reasons it is extermely unlikely that WSC
> would make a joke about death from VD.

This is said to have occurred in the early nineteenth century, in a session
of the British Parliament, but I don't remember who the parties were. The
way I remember it is:

- you will die of a pox, sir, or upon the gallows.
- that would depend on whether I were to embrace your mistress or your
principles.

They were a bit more careful about subjunctives in those days.

A good dictionary of quotations (which I don't have) should resolve this.

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Stephen Kelley

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Jan 20, 1992, 2:30:15 PM1/20/92
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In article <1992Jan20.1...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> ja...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
-
- This is said to have occurred in the early nineteenth century, in a session
- of the British Parliament, but I don't remember who the parties were. The
- way I remember it is:
-
- - you will die of a pox, sir, or upon the gallows.
- - that would depend on whether I were to embrace your mistress or your
- principles.
-

Disraeli (as has been mentioned, I believe) and Gladstone.

Steve
and in the morning you'll still be a piece of luggage.

James Olsen

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Jan 20, 1992, 7:55:42 PM1/20/92
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Sheesh! The 'VD' quote isn't from Churchill, Disraeli, or Gladstone.
It's from John Wilkes (1727-1797):

Earl of Sandwich: "'Pon my honour, Wilkes, I don't know whether you'll die
on the gallows or of the pox."

Wilkes: "That must depend, my lord, on whether I first embrace your
Lordship's principles, or your Lordship's mistresses."

Alan Fleming

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Jan 21, 1992, 10:03:07 AM1/21/92
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In article <1992Jan20.1...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> ja...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>
>This is said to have occurred in the early nineteenth century, in a session
>of the British Parliament, but I don't remember who the parties were. The
>way I remember it is:
>
I believe this was just posted to the net recently. In the posting, it was
attributed to an unknown French Politician in the nineteenth century.
Perhaps it is another form of folklore...

Think Peace.
- Alan
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Ted Frank

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Jan 20, 1992, 8:33:57 PM1/20/92
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ol...@masala.lcs.mit.edu (James Olsen) writes:
>Earl of Sandwich: "'Pon my honour, Wilkes, I don't know whether you'll die
> on the gallows or of the pox."
>
>Wilkes: "That must depend, my lord, on whether I first embrace your
> Lordship's principles, or your Lordship's mayonnaise."

I like this version better.

Rory Molinari

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Jan 22, 1992, 1:51:15 AM1/22/92
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al...@daysinns.UUCP (Alan Fleming) writes:

I posted it a few days ago. My only reference was _Doonesbury_ so it
may well be an UL.

Rory Molinari
mo...@csis.dit.csiro.au

Derek Tearne

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Jan 23, 1992, 7:06:36 PM1/23/92
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In article <39...@shamash.cdc.com> b...@svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes:
>ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>> As a famous comedian suggested, I tried turning up the "Brightness"
>> knob on my monitor. Didn't work.
>
>None of those knobs seem to work properly. I turned up the "volume"
>on my television, and it stayed exactly the same size.
>
The vertical hold on my T.V doesn't semm to make it levitate

The channel select has little to do with bodies of water


The Foot brake in my car doesn't destroy my foot
(similarly hand brake)
The Clutch pedal releases my foot when I lift it.

Any more anyone?

Derek


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Tom Streeter

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Jan 24, 1992, 11:46:22 AM1/24/92
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In article <1992Jan24.0...@fivegl.co.nz> de...@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>In article <39...@shamash.cdc.com> b...@svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes:
>>ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>>> As a famous comedian suggested, I tried turning up the "Brightness"
>>> knob on my monitor. Didn't work.
>>
>>None of those knobs seem to work properly. I turned up the "volume"
>>on my television, and it stayed exactly the same size.
>>
>The vertical hold on my T.V doesn't semm to make it levitate
>
>The channel select has little to do with bodies of water
>
>
>The Foot brake in my car doesn't destroy my foot
>(similarly hand brake)
>The Clutch pedal releases my foot when I lift it.
>
>Any more anyone?
>
>Derek
>
I'm always very close to my remote control.

I see home pregnancy tests advertised, but I've never bought one becasue
I've never suspected that my home is pregnant.

I pressed the "play" button on my vcr, but it wasn't much of a game.

I constantly use light switches, but the lightbulbs never seem to
change.


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may...@cemmva.cem.msu.edu

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Jan 25, 1992, 8:34:31 PM1/25/92
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My computer doesn't work well either:
My return key doesn't send my ages-old AT&T anywhere.
The function keys don't make it function, if it did before...
The scroll lock won't keep parchment closed.
The tab key produces no low-grade colas.
The control key does not make my computer any easier to handle.
The alternate key offers no substitutes.
The period key has no lunar cycle.
The home key works OK, 'cuz I'm already home.
The escape key is the one I always push when I hear someone say "what's this
phone bill for $50.00 for?". So far, no luck....
And the power button stinks, I still work for minimum wage, and am no one's
superior...

Anything Else?

Anson "And where's the 'RAM' anyways?" Mayers
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Andrew Hackard

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Jan 26, 1992, 1:49:13 AM1/26/92
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de...@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>The Foot brake in my car doesn't destroy my foot
>(similarly hand brake)
>The Clutch pedal releases my foot when I lift it.
>
>Any more anyone?

Yeah, I tried the gear shift, but when I checked back there I still had the
same old luggage. (It hadn't even moved!)

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bill nelson

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Jan 26, 1992, 4:10:13 AM1/26/92
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stre...@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter) / 8:46 am Jan 24, 1992 / writes:

>I constantly use light switches, but the lightbulbs never seem to
>change.

You are just thinking about them wrong. They are "light" switches.
Why do you think they screw them to the wall?

Bill "How do you tell whether your living room is actually alive?" Nelson

The Hepburn

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Jan 27, 1992, 3:35:41 PM1/27/92
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In article <1992Jan24....@rock.concert.net>, stre...@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter) writes:
|>
|>
|> I constantly use light switches, but the lightbulbs never seem to
|> change.
|>
|>

Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, and
how many of you "open" or "close" a light?


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Charles Lasner

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Jan 28, 1992, 5:58:43 PM1/28/92
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Most of us were raised with indoor bathrooms and electric light switches.
While possibly the variety with the on and off buttons, as opposed to the
flickable on/off handle that might/might not snap, we can't relate to the
gaslights with valves to be opened or closed, so we don't refer to the
electric lights that way.

This seems to be a carry-over from immigrants to the US who did use gaslights
or who grew up in families fromthe gaslight era. I can see multi-generational
spill-over from household usage long after needed, etc.

So, I will turn on/off a light, not open/close it, because it is electrically
controlled from a switch. In fact, I may turn on/off the water because my
sprinkling system is electrically controlled by a water solenoid valve.

(In Europe, do people open their PC's when they want to use them ? :-)
(Portables don't count.)

cjl

Cindy Kandolf

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Jan 29, 1992, 5:17:24 AM1/29/92
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"The Hepburn" queries:

>Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, an
>how many of you "open" or "close" a light?

None of the above. I "light" a light when i come into a room, and "outen"
it when i leave.

-Cindy Kandolf
ci...@solan.unit.no
Trondheim, Norway
(orignally from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which explains the dialect 8-))

Claudio Calvelli

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Jan 29, 1992, 9:26:40 AM1/29/92
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las...@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>This seems to be a carry-over from immigrants to the US who did use gaslights
>or who grew up in families fromthe gaslight era. I can see multi-generational
>spill-over from household usage long after needed, etc.

This makes sense. I turn a light on/off, my grandmother used to open/close
it (actually, aprire/chiudere, to be completely precise).

>(In Europe, do people open their PC's when they want to use them ? :-)

Not that I know. Personally, I turn it on or, better, set it to fire.
(For a real computer, only the first thing applies)

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Anthony E. Siegman

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Jan 29, 1992, 6:02:20 PM1/29/92
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>Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, and
>how many of you "open" or "close" a light?

Along the same line, how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
this one.

Joseph M Knight

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Jan 29, 1992, 5:33:41 PM1/29/92
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In article <1992Jan24....@rock.concert.net>, stre...@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter) writes:
|> In article <1992Jan24.0...@fivegl.co.nz> de...@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
|> >In article <39...@shamash.cdc.com> b...@svl.cdc.com (Brian Scearce) writes:
|> >>ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
|> >>> As a famous comedian suggested, I tried turning up the "Brightness"
|> >>> knob on my monitor. Didn't work.
|> >>
|> >>None of those knobs seem to work properly. I turned up the "volume"
|> >>on my television, and it stayed exactly the same size.
|> >>
|> >The vertical hold on my T.V doesn't semm to make it levitate
|> >
|> >The channel select has little to do with bodies of water
|> >
|> >
|> >The Foot brake in my car doesn't destroy my foot
|> >(similarly hand brake)
|> >The Clutch pedal releases my foot when I lift it.
|>
|> >
|> I'm always very close to my remote control.
|>
|> I see home pregnancy tests advertised, but I've never bought one becasue
|> I've never suspected that my home is pregnant.
|>
|> I pressed the "play" button on my vcr, but it wasn't much of a game.
|>
|> I constantly use light switches, but the lightbulbs never seem to
|> change.
|>
|>

I always hear a strange buzzing sound when I push my doorbell.
I'm thinking of going to see a neurologist about this.

Lance Franklin

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Jan 30, 1992, 11:27:00 AM1/30/92
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Well, I think it's actually "1" and "0", but I suppose you could think
"In-circuit" and "Out-of-circuit" for "I" and "O"

Lance

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Doug Rudoff

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Jan 30, 1992, 1:54:33 PM1/30/92
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In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:

It's not "I" and "O", it's "1" and "0" (one and zero). Think binary
numbers. I assume it's that way for language indepedence.

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Mcirvin

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Jan 30, 1992, 2:02:58 PM1/30/92
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In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>
> Along the same line, how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
>which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
>and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
>this one.

I thought they were a 1 (one) and a 0 (zero). It makes sense if you
spend too much time around computers.

Matt McIrvin

Al Clark

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Jan 30, 1992, 3:39:40 PM1/30/92
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In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>>Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, and
>>how many of you "open" or "close" a light?
>
> Along the same line, how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
>which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
>and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
>this one.
>

I just think of them as "1" and "0". That's true and false in the
C language. (Spoken in many computers).
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Bob Morris

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Jan 30, 1992, 4:18:42 PM1/30/92
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In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>
> Along the same line, how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
>which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
>and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
>this one.

Think of them as 1 "one" and 0 "zero". Think of the number as how many
times it is on. I suspect that's what their inventor had in mind...

Kate McDonnell

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Jan 30, 1992, 6:25:48 PM1/30/92
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In article <1992Jan28....@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
lla...@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>(In Europe, do people open their PC's when they want to use them ? :-)
>(Portables don't count.)

The French version of the Macintosh operating system uses
"demarrer", which I believe is the same verb used to mean
starting a car. Plus "redemarrer" for restart. In conversation
(in Quebec anyway), I'm sure you'd be understood if you said
"j'ai ouvert l'ordinateur".


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tuu

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Jan 31, 1992, 7:34:59 AM1/31/92
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Exactly.. I think some of them actually look like an I, so we'll
take it as 'readable as either'..

I=1=TRUE=on, O=0=FALSE=off.
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Eric Williams

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Jan 31, 1992, 2:52:32 PM1/31/92
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In article <1992Jan30....@mdd.comm.mot.com>, rud...@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) writes:
> In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
> >>Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, and
> >>how many of you "open" or "close" a light?
> >which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
> >and which means "OFF"?
> It's not "I" and "O", it's "1" and "0" (one and zero). Think binary
> numbers. I assume it's that way for language indepedence.

Oh, come on! It's "|" and "O" (bar and circle), and it relates to open
and closed circuit states. Any EEs out there care to elaborate?

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ROY...@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu

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Jan 31, 1992, 8:22:03 PM1/31/92
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Indeed... it is "|" and "O", but the printer I just looked at has a
rocker type switch. When it is powered off the "O" is flush with
the case, while the "|" sticks out to where you can see it.
I'm so glad I'm clear on this now...
/x

Larry Huntley

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Feb 4, 1992, 1:07:26 PM2/4/92
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In article <46...@npri6.npri.com> er...@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams) writes:
>
>Oh, come on! It's "|" and "O" (bar and circle), and it relates to open
>and closed circuit states. Any EEs out there care to elaborate?


Okay.
| == 1 == True == On == Light == Noisy
O == 0 == False == Off == Dark == Quiet

For toggle switches, push the symbol for the action you want.
If you want the light (printer, etc.) to be 'ON', press the
'1' symbol; if it was 'OFF', it will now be 'ON'; if it was
already 'ON', it will still be 'ON', but you may have noticed
that the switch didn't move. Or you may not notice.

This works fine until we enter the realms of 'Negative Logic' -
in which case the following table would apply:

| == 1 == False == Off == Dark == Quiet
O == 0 == True == On == Light == Noisy

Or perhaps more easily thought of as:

| == 1 == Not True == Not On == Not Light == Not Noisy

(For C programmers)

| == ~1 == !TRUE == !On == !Light == !Noisy

Of course, other systems of logic may be equally valid.

Any questions?
--

Larry Huntley / Logic Automation Incorporated / Beaverton, Oregon

Making maple syrup for the pancakes of our land.

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Feb 3, 1992, 3:20:13 PM2/3/92
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In article <1992Jan30....@mdd.comm.mot.com>, rud...@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) writes:
> In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
>>>Speaking of lights, how many of you "turn on" or "turn off" a light, and
>>>how many of you "open" or "close" a light?
>>
>> Along the same line, how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
>>which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
>>and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
>>this one.
>
> It's not "I" and "O", it's "1" and "0" (one and zero). Think binary
> numbers. I assume it's that way for language indepedence.

In the UK, light switches operate the opposite way from those in the States
(or even elsewhere, for all I know). For lights controlled by a single switch,
down is on and up is off. Generally, I understand, American safety regs
require the switch to be up for on and down for off - presumably so that if
the pole breaks, the switch will fall to off rather than on.

And yet you guys can screw your plugs to the wall socket...

>
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Feb 4, 1992, 3:05:17 PM2/4/92
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In article <1992Jan29....@EE.Stanford.EDU> sie...@EE.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) writes:
> how do I remember (mnemonically or whatever)
>which of the "I" and the "O" on most modern toggle switches means "ON"
>and which means "OFF"? Can't think of any sensible memory crutch for
>this one.

I remember it as 0 = no current, therefore off, and think of the 1
like the handle/contact in large mechanical/manual switches where
closing the handle completes the circuit & thereby turns the light
on.

-r
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Phil Gustafson

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Feb 5, 1992, 8:43:55 PM2/5/92
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According to the _Saturday Evening Post_ in 196mumble, the way to remember
the states of wall switches is to think of the Russian Officer, Colonel
Upizoff.

Ha.

ObUL: During his stay in Paris in 1779, Benjamin Franklin got rather in his
cups one night. His mistress of the week, Fifi "Oui, oui, monsieur" Pantoflard,
said: "Be`nji! Vous e^tes me`rdefacede'!" The quick-witted printer, inventor,
and statesman replied: "Ha. I'll be sober in the morning, but you'll
be pregnant for the next nine months!"

Phil "Shirtofsuet" Gustafson
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Feb 6, 1992, 1:09:21 AM2/6/92
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ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>ObUL: During his stay in Paris in 1779, Benjamin Franklin got rather in his
>cups one night. His mistress of the week, Fifi "Oui, oui, monsieur" Pantoflard,
>said: "Be`nji! Vous e^tes me`rdefacede'!" The quick-witted printer, inventor,
>and statesman replied: "Ha. I'll be sober in the morning, but you'll
>be pregnant for the next nine months!"
>
I think this was Gladstone. Maybe Disraeli.

At a remarkably raucous law school party Saturday night, a new hero of
the first-year law class pulled the classic Churchill line on a fellow
student. But he didn't throw up on her.
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1307 E 60 St, #109 + complete decapitation of the head."
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Chi, IL 60637 + "Mmmm... purple." -- Homer Simpson

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