Jamie Lee Curtis and Kim Novak
St. Steve du Cloche-Vent
>In article <1991Apr2.2...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> xl...@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>I recently read (in a lowly circulated, unpublished paper) that both Kim Novak
>>and Jamie Lee Curtis are really males, possibly because of genetic reasons.
>>Anyone out there got any info on the matter? (The paper cited Kim Novak's
>>large arms and how aptly Jamie Lee Curtis played a male role in one of her
>>movies).
>
>If you ever see one of Jamie Lee Curtis' earlier movies, it will become
>clear to you that she is NOT a man. ;-)
>
The story I heard was that Jamie Lee Curtis was born an hermaphrodite(sp)
and that an operation was performed on the newborn to make it a woman. I
was given proof of this by the person who told me this, he showed me how broad
her shoulders were...CASE CLOSED!
John Altinbay
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- I don't know about Whitney, but Olivia is/was married. Not that it
- proves anything.
Olivia has a baby girl named Chloe. Does that help?
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>I recently read (in a lowly circulated, unpublished paper) that both Kim Novak
>and Jamie Lee Curtis are really males, possibly because of genetic reasons.
>Anyone out there got any info on the matter? (The paper cited Kim Novak's
>large arms and how aptly Jamie Lee Curtis played a male role in one of her
>movies).
If you ever see one of Jamie Lee Curtis' earlier movies, it will become
clear to you that she is NOT a man. ;-)
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>clear to you that she is NOT a man. ;-)
You must mean "Love Letters". I saw clips of the love scenes of that film
with Madonna's "Material Girl" song. A real laugh riot. I'm told that the
file is mostly Jamie Lee getting laid.
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Richard Pottorff
>>If you ever see one of Jamie Lee Curtis' earlier movies, it will become
>>clear to you that she is NOT a man. ;-)
>
>You must mean "Love Letters". I saw clips of the love scenes of that film
>with Madonna's "Material Girl" song. A real laugh riot. I'm told that the
>file is mostly Jamie Lee getting laid.
>
>Terry "Siskel & Ebert" Wood
So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
Here are a few.
A woman will not have a prominent Adam's apple (larnyx).
(I guess Eve gave her apple to Adam so he could eat it. (Sorry).
Also, a man's thighs will be wider than his hips, a woman's hips will be
wider than her thighs.
Men's arm's are longer in proportion to their bodies than women's, although
that's a judgement call.
Ramblin Rick
Joseph Holmes
> I recently read (in a lowly circulated, unpublished paper) that both Kim Nova
> and Jamie Lee Curtis are really males, possibly because of genetic reasons.
> Anyone out there got any info on the matter? (The paper cited Kim Novak's
> large arms and how aptly Jamie Lee Curtis played a male role in one of her
> movies).
I heard the same rumor about JLC. I was told that she's a hermaphrodite, and
that it was obvious because she has such a large jaw she must have male
hormones. Sounds like a classic UL to me.
Cornell Kinderknecht
>- proves anything.
>Olivia has a baby girl named Chloe. Does that help?
>--
Not much. In the 70's I saw a segment of the Tonight Show and Johnny
Carson asked Olivia 'straight' out if what we hear is true about her liking
women. She said that it was true. I think around that same time, she was
not trying to conceal her relationship with her female lover.
--- cjk
bill nelson
>So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
>examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
>Here are a few.
>A woman will not have a prominent Adam's apple (larnyx).
>(I guess Eve gave her apple to Adam so he could eat it. (Sorry).
Nah - she had a much smaller fruit that was eaten by Adam.
Bill "Society for the protection of maligned fruits" Nelson
D. James McGregor
[Edited]
>So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
>examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
>Here are a few.
A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
I can just see you all checking your own fingers right now ...
James
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John Altinbay
- >- I don't know about Whitney, but Olivia is/was married. Not that it
- >- proves anything.
-
- >Olivia has a baby girl named Chloe. Does that help?
- >--
-
- Not much. In the 70's I saw a segment of the Tonight Show and Johnny
- Carson asked Olivia 'straight' out if what we hear is true about her liking
- women. She said that it was true. I think around that same time, she was
- not trying to conceal her relationship with her female lover.
-
- --- cjk
Does that prove anything? There are plenty of women who like other women.
Tim Oldham
>Olivia has a baby girl named Chloe. Does that help?
Not much. I've still got to do all my packing. Thanks for the thought,
though.
Tim.
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Steinar Haug
are of different legnths.
also, the bit about the hips and thighs mentioned earier is only accurate if
the person is in great shape. some women are apt to put on weight at the top
of the thigh... nickanamed "saddlebags". hence their thighs will be a bit
wider than their hips.
the bit about the adam's apple is getting closer. if someone's adam's apple
sticks out they are quite definitely male. but not all men, particularly
men who are slightly overweight, have protruding voice boxes.
in short, to heck with it. 8-)
-cindy kandolf
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Doug Krause
#A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
#fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
#these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
#the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
It works for me... So it's gotta be true! :-)`
Alan Monday
|> In article <11...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> r...@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff) writes:
|> [Edited]
|> >So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
|> >examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
|> >Here are a few.
|>
|> A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
|> fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
|> these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
|> the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
|>
I just went and checked the most womanly woman I could find in our office.
Her ring finger is much shorter than her middle finger. Another urban myth
shot down.
Mary Rose Campbell
James McGregor) writes :
>In article <11...@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> r...@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM
(Richard >Pottorff) writes:
[Edited]
>>So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
>>examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
>>Here are a few.
>A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
>fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
>these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
>the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
>I can just see you all checking your own fingers right now ...
Actually, this won't work. I believe that it's the index and ring
fingers which have sex-linked lengths, and it's not foolproof. (about
10-20% of the population has the wrong hands, according to this theory)
mrc
Nick Rothwell
> I can just see you all checking your own fingers right now ...
Oh, nuts.
The other check is feet size - women have much smaller feet.
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>
>A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
>fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
>these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
>the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
>
>I can just see you all checking your own fingers right now ...
that's because i wanted to be absolutely sure you were
spouting total bullshit before i flamed you to a crisp.
i assure you, i am extremely female, and my third fingers
are a whole centimeter shorter than my second fingers,
and always have been.
where DO people pick this shit up?
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Scott Coleman
In article <38...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> al...@meau.Corp.Sun.COM (Alan Monday) writes:
>In article <62...@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>, dmcg...@cs.strath.ac.uk (D. James McGregor) writes:
>|> [Edited]
>|> >So you want to know how to determine the sex of the person without
>|> >examining the plumbing, and don't have access to their genetic material?
>|> >Here are a few.
>|>
>|> A dead cert. is to look at the second and third fingers (or the two middle
>|> fingers - not including the thumb, obviously) on either hand. For females,
>|> these two fingers are of approximately the same length, whereas for males,
>|> the third finger is noticeably shorter than the second.
>|>
>
>Her ring finger is much shorter than her middle finger. Another urban myth
>shot down.
Here's the REAL scoop (according to a coworker of mine):
The middle finger is always the longest for both men and women. The
fingers which really vary are the index finger and the ring finger of
each hand.
Comparing the INDEX finger to the RING finger, in females a dominant
trait is to have the index finger be longer than the ring finger; in
males, it is a dominant trait to have the ring finger be longer than the
index. I confirmed it by looking at her hands as well as my own, so it
can't be wrong!!!
Scott Coleman
In article <XS|_50=@uzi-9mm.fulcrum.bt.co.uk> t...@its.bt.co.uk (Tim Oldham) writes:
>In article <11...@holyoke.alc.com> alti...@alc.com (John Altinbay) writes:
>
>though.
BTW, Olivia is (was?) married to a MAN. I saw the announcement in
the newspaper a few yaers ago (I recall it clearly because it made me so
sad :(
Larry Smith
>Comparing the INDEX finger to the RING finger, in females a dominant trait is
>to have the index finger be longer than the ring finger; in males, it is a
>dominant trait to have the ring finger be longer than the index.
And just what does it mean
if both of the fingers in
question are exactly the
*same* length? - he asked
wonderingly.
Scott Coleman
In article <14...@glinda.ctron.com> sm...@glinda.ctron.com (Larry Smith) writes:
>In article <1991Apr11.1...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tm...@uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
>
>>to have the index finger be longer than the ring finger; in males, it is a
>>dominant trait to have the ring finger be longer than the index.
>
>*same* length? - he asked wonderingly.
The person is a hermaphrodite?
snopes
In article <1991Apr11.1...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
tm...@uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes...
>BTW, Olivia is (was?) married to a MAN. I saw the announcement in
>the newspaper a few yaers ago (I recall it clearly because it made me so
>sad :(
So you would have been happier if she had married a woman?
- snopes
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Julie Kozaczka Stahlhut
Olivia Newton John is married to Matt Lattanzi, a very attractive
American actor who is about 10 years younger than Olivia. They
have been married for several years and have at least one child.
By the way, though I had heard rumors about the sexual preferences
of most of the female celebrities mentioned in this thread, this
was the FIRST place I'd ever heard any such rumors about Ms.
Newton-John. For what it's worth, Kim Novak was most notorious
for having an affair with Sammy Davis Jr. back in the early 60's
when interracial relationships were still considered scandalous.
I believe someone at a movie studio spread the rumor that she
was a lesbian -- also very scandalous in those days -- to
subject her to more abuse after she'd been harassed and threatened
about her relationship with Davis already.
Jamie Lee Curtis is married to Christopher Guest of "This Is
Spinal Tap" fame, and also has at least one child.
So many rumors, so little time ... :-)
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Scott Coleman
In article <1991Apr11.1...@pa.dec.com> mikk...@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>>BTW, Olivia is (was?) married to a MAN. I saw the announcement in
>>the newspaper a few yaers ago (I recall it clearly because it made me so
>>sad :(
>
> So you would have been happier if she had married a woman?
No, I would have been happier if she had married ME!
E. Gilliam
>erm, i am QUITE DEFINITELY female, and the two fingers mentioned on my hands
>are of different legnths.
Well, mien are, too, but the guys next to me (and the one across
from me, and the one next to him).. all have a much larger difference;
my 3rd finger is shorter, but theirs are all SHORTER.
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> The other check is feet size - women have much smaller feet.
fit in their shoes. He got a lot of free beer that way.
Jeff Stehman
D. James McGregor
Yeah, sorry about that. I just discovered that I misquoted it. What I
should have said was that on males, the third finger is longer than the first,
and on females, they're supposed to be about the same length. Anyway, it's not
a particularly reliable method of detection, since about 15-20% of the
population are exceptions to this. I should've checked with my girlfriend
before posting. Oops!
Apologies to the net in general.
James
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>
>>Comparing the INDEX finger to the RING finger, in females a dominant trait is
>>to have the index finger be longer than the ring finger; in males, it is a
>>dominant trait to have the ring finger be longer than the index.
>
Oh, shit. On my right hand, my index finger is slightly longer than my ring
finger, but it's vice versa on my left hand. What am I going to
tell my girlfriend???
Oh, good. If I arch my hand in a different orientation, I can get the answer
to come out however I want. Whew!! :-)
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It means that you're either male or female... at least until
proven otherwise! ;-)
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> Does that prove anything? There are plenty of women who like other women.
No, you're right. It doesn't prove anything. I personally know of someone
who is a gay female who has gone the route of artificial insemination in order
to have a child. Now she and her mate are parents. So, what exactly does this
prove? It proves that you can't determine a persons sexual preference by the
fact that they have children!
Just wanted to add my two cents
-Allysia Murphy
Wharton Grad
John Wichers
>In article <62...@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>, dmcg...@cs.strath.ac.uk (D. James McGregor) writes:
>> I can just see you all checking your own fingers right now ...
>
Men have larger penises (penii?) as well. =8^)
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Robyn A Grunberg
>.... on males, the third finger is longer than the first,
>and on females, they're supposed to be about the same length.
Oh my God, I'm a boy! Does this mean I'm making medical history
seeing as I'm four months pregnant?
Robyn
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Scott Coleman
In article <GUEST.91A...@geech.ai.mit.edu> gu...@geech.ai.mit.edu (Guest Account) writes:
>In article <1991Apr11....@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tm...@uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
You're a goofball.