Do Vampires Exist?
bu...@az.com
Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
entire post. Do Vampires exist?
Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
I have a few things to say on what a vampire is and what it isn't.
A vampire DOES:
- Feed on human/animal blood.
- Live for a very long time.
- have emotions. We love, we hate, we laugh, we cry...
A vampire does NOT:
- Sleep in a coffin... well, most don't.
- Kill, if he/she can help it.
- Melt/burn in sunlight
- shrink away from crosses/holy water
A vampire IS:
- a LIVING, BREATHING person.
- able to eat regular food.
- able to handle sunlight, etc.
A vampire is NOT:
- "Undead"... that is a word made up by the authors.
- Human... well... Not ENTIRELY Human, at least.
Other notes:
- We have senses that are considered 'super-human' or 'paranormal'.
- A stake through the heart will kill anything.
- We can be killed just as easily as you.
- The myths about keeping us away, or trapping us, or killing us are entirely
untrue.
- We ARE NOT demons.
- There are several types -- Classicals, Inheritors, Night-Timers, Genetics,
Psi-Vamps and Symbiotics.
- Classicals and Inheritors both have 2 two classes or sub-division to the
species. In both cases one is a bit more human in normal activities. BOTH
species drink blood, consume blood as nourishment because they must. Both
types can and do go out by day, but suffer ill effects of the sun when they do
and in general would rather not do so. Most sleep by day. If ever asked, "What
do Vampires do by day?" The correct answer is "Almost always sleep." Both
categories do both live and dead feeding. Most prefer what ImortalN, calls
"LIVING BLOOD". This being blood freshly pumped by the heart of the donor, or
source, at the exact time of feeding. Many, but not all, do take advantage of
frozen blood and some of dead blood. Though many consider frozen blood to be
dead blood. Some also partake of fresh animal blood from a butcher. A few like
to feed on live small animals, like rats.
- Most Vampires can and do eat regular human food as well: Many are Gourmands,
that is, people who eat gourmet foods. They have cultivated a taste for fine
dining over several centuries of life.
- They also tend to make business investments as silent partners and are
fairly
well off if they invest wisely over the centuries.
- Most Vampires do not kill sources: However, they are not human, and they
fight the killer urgers most of their existences.
- Most real Vampires do not have sex while feeding: That is not to say they do
not have sex, they do with other Vampires and some with humans, wives, friends
but not feeding partners, sources or donors.
- Classicals and Inheritors do not normally appear gaunt and pale: They look
like regular humans for the most part. Historically real Vampires were robust,
hearty looking men and women. They were sound of body with a healthy
appearance, and their complexions were on the darker side. I suppose
because their forbearers were European or South American in nature, for the
most part.
- A Vampire's life span is many centuries really: I would say 1000 to 1050
years is most common. Not really an eternity but an eternity to most humans.
Of course there are stories of those living longer, but I think you would
agree that ten centuries is fairly a long time. Real Vampires can be killed in
a number of ways, it is just more difficult as they do tend to regenerate and
heal faster.
- Most real Vampires are sterile: Classicals are believed to possess only dead
sperm, and many Inheritors are like the mule in the animal kingdom. A mule
is made from the breeding of a horse and burro. It produces a new species
cross-breed of animal that resembles both species but can not reproduce
itself. It cannot mate with another of its own kind. Most Vampires are like
that. Classicals are made or infected by another, Inheritors usually come
from two human parents. In most cases the male cannot reproduce and in
many cases the female is barren or sterile as well. In the cases where the
female can reproduce there is normally a lack of males to breed with.
- Nighttimers are almost exactly like Vampires: In the sense that they must
live a similar lifestyle out of need. They have very similar health problems
and environmental needs. Night-timers normally live only to about 150 to 200
years, or approximately a tenth as long as Vampires. As with Vampires they
do not visibly age as fast. They do eat regular foods and feed from all the
same sources that Vampires do, except that some Night-timers are not permitted
outside donors or feeding partners and must go to blood banks, hospitals or to
their own kind for feeding partners. Nighttimers have only consensual
feeding partners. In general, some in both Vampire species do take from
ungiving sources, by force even if the force is gentle.
- Both Vampire categories and Night-timers do tend to be very psychic.
- The terms "donor" and "feeding partner" usually mean one who is fed from
or chooses to give their blood freely.
- The term "source" usually means one who is taken without their permission.
- Symbiotics and PsiVamps are are not usually immortal: Most of the time they
are human in nature, but they could indeed be Vampires as well.
- The PsiVamp, all though there are exceptions, is often very negative.
Normally they consume or feed on the energy sources of a host. The physical
strength, mental positive energy, emotional energies of hate, fear, love, etc.
They are not true empaths in the normal sense of that word. The effect is a
draining, sometimes to madness or unto death if it is permitted to go that
far. Some PsiVamps do not realize they are doing this, others revel in the
ability and simply hunt to see whom they can most easily affect.
- A Symbiotic is similar to a PsiVamp: However, they deal in energies within
the Aura, ie; the Electrical Bio-chemical Energies, and the mental and
psychic energies in the host. Although they too feed off these energies often
they can be of great help to a host. By lessening the energies negatively
being produced by the body and mind Symbiotics are often thought of as
positive creatures.
- Genetics are persons believed to have undergone a change in the genes at
birth:Mostly to cause the similar problems and attributes common to normal
Classicals and Inheritors.
- A Classical was made by another: Either turned or infected by their blood.
Inheritors, Night-timers and Genetics are usually born the way they are.
- Vampires have illnessess too.
So, as an Inheritor (Class 2), I must say that the myths and legends
surrounding my kind are just plain STUPID!
For more information on Vampyr, please visit NightPoe's site:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/1311/#Vampiric Studies: Real Vampires
I have written a paper on Vampyr, using NightPoe's information. If you would
like a copy, please E-mail me. It will be sent to you in .rtf format as an
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Sean F.
bu...@az.com wrote in message <6d2gcq$b73$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
>entire post. Do Vampires exist?
>
>Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
>
>I have a few things to say on what a vampire is and what it isn't.
[snip]
i think someone's been reading a little too much of the "Vampire: The
Masquerade" RPG's
Keith Willis
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:26:51 -0600, bu...@az.com wrote:
>Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
This place is slowly beginning to fill up with very weird people.
Keith "spooky!" Willis
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Ben Walsh
bu...@az.com wrote:
> Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
> entire post. Do Vampires exist?
No. Vampire bats do, though.
> Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
You misplte "a very sad person with no real friends, who has joined this
fictional group, with its codes, laws, rules and secrets, to gain a
sense of belonging and community; a failure in most things, who has
imagined great powers and attributes to compensate; someone with great
difficulty separating fantasy from reality."
It's not even your fantasy - you stole it from trading card games and
those books by Anne Rice. You're sad, you're mad and you're not even
doing it well.
There's a great article at the Skeptical Inquirier site - "Staking
Claims: The Vampires of Folklore and Fiction".
http://www.csicop.org/si/9603/staking.html
ben
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Bo Bradham
Ben Walsh <be...@iona.nospam.please.we'reirish.com> wrote:
Yep.
> who has joined this fictional group, with its codes, laws, rules and secrets,
Uh huh.
> to gain a sense of belonging and community;
Guilty.
> a failure in most things,
5th amendment.
> who has imagined great powers and attributes to compensate;
that's me.
> someone with great difficulty separating fantasy from reality."
Read me like a book.
Is this one of those "if you answered yes to more than <x> of
these questions" thingies?
Bo "welcome to afu. Don't try the door,
it's locked from the other side" Bradham
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Ben Walsh
Bo Bradham wrote:
> Is this one of those "if you answered yes to more than <x> of
> these questions" thingies?
I suppose it is now.
ben "I hadn't thought of it that way" w.
Leo G Simonetta
In article <34f949fe...@readnews.bbn.hp.com>, Keith Willis wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:26:51 -0600, bu...@az.com wrote:
>
>
Slowly? Beginning?
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Sure. In fact one just got convicted down here and will probably get the
electric chair. Unfortunately, Florida law doesn't allow for staking and
decapitation, so after they zap him three times they'll have to let him go.
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Lon Stowell
In article <6d2gcq$b73$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <bu...@az.com> wrote:
>Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
>entire post. Do Vampires exist?
>Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
I know this cute blonde chick named Buffy, can I get you two
crazy kids together?
Madeleine Page
Keith Willis wrote:
: bu...@az.com wrote:
: >Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
: This place is slowly beginning to fill up with very weird people.
Would it were true. Weird people are original and interesting, eccentric
and quirky. The sad lamers who're arriving on afu can't even lay claim to
their own fantasies, but have to borrow someone else's.
Madeleine "muss up her hair, put her in a straightjacket and call her Mad
Barbie, she's still Barbie and still boring" Page
JoAnne Schmitz
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:05:55 +0000, Ben Walsh
<be...@iona.nospam.please.we'reirish.com> wrote:
>bu...@az.com wrote:
>> Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
>> entire post. Do Vampires exist?
>
>No. Vampire bats do, though.
>
>> Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
>
>You misplte "a very sad person with no real friends, who has joined this
>fictional group, with its codes, laws, rules and secrets, to gain a
>sense of belonging and community; a failure in most things, who has
>imagined great powers and attributes to compensate; someone with great
>difficulty separating fantasy from reality."
Yes, yes, but what's the last digit of his Social Security number?
JoAnne "maybe he and I are 'related'" Schmitz
Len Berlind
>Madeleine "muss up her hair, put her in a straightjacket and call her Mad
>Barbie, she's still Barbie and still boring" Page
Too right.
L"But muss up her hair, roll her in boysenberry jelly, sprinkle on
confectioner's sugar and call her Jelly Roll Barbie, and she's
irresistible."B
Alice Faber
>Too right.
The image this creates...a bizarre blending of two different staples on
this 'froup. I'll limit myself to the "punchline": peanut-butter surprise
and "men can lick, too".
Alice "not it *isn't* all in my mind" Faber
Paraic O'Donnell
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:57:39 GMT,
keith_wi...@non-hp-unitedkingdom-om1.om.hp.com (Keith Willis)
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:26:51 -0600, bu...@az.com wrote:
>
>>Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
>
>This place is slowly beginning to fill up with very weird people.
"Slowly"? "Beginning"?
Paraic "it was ever thus" O'Donnell
JC Sutton
>- A Symbiotic is similar to a PsiVamp: However, they deal in energies
within
>the Aura, ie; the Electrical Bio-chemical Energies, and the mental and
>psychic energies in the host. Although they too feed off these energies
often
>they can be of great help to a host. By lessening the energies negatively
>being produced by the body and mind Symbiotics are often thought of as
>positive creatures.
I knew a scary boy once who claimed to be a vamp - pointy fingernails,
stringy hair, you know the drill. He said he lived off souls. If he asked
for your soul and you agreed, he would write your name down on a peice of
paper, thus 'owning' you. He claimed if you gave him your soul, he would
bring you riches and fame.
Smacks of ancient Egyptian religion, tossed around with Rice, Lackey and
total lameness. 2 questions: would that make him a 'symbiotic' or a 'psi'
and why, if he had the power to bring riches and fame, was he a total loser
who lived in his car and couldn't afford cigarettes?
Oh. That's right, vampires don't exist.
-Jenna :)
"I don't have time to be brief" -Mark Twain
Bob Church
>I knew a scary boy once who claimed to be a vamp - pointy fingernails,
>stringy hair, you know the drill. He said he lived off souls. If he asked
>for your soul and you agreed, he would write your name down on a peice of
>paper, thus 'owning' you. He claimed if you gave him your soul, he would
>bring you riches and fame.
>
>Smacks of ancient Egyptian religion, tossed around with Rice, Lackey and
>total lameness. 2 questions: would that make him a 'symbiotic' or a 'psi'
>and why, if he had the power to bring riches and fame, was he a total loser
>who lived in his car and couldn't afford cigarettes?
>
>Oh. That's right, vampires don't exist.
>
>-Jenna :)
>"I don't have time to be brief" -Mark Twain
>
You should point out to him that real vampires are said to have sex now and
then. I'm betting that disqualifies him.
Bob (not just Miss Thumb and her four ugly sisters, either) Church
Bob Fletcher
On <26 Feb, 16:30>, "Susan Vaughn" wrote to All :
"V> From: "Susan Vaughn" <windj...@mindspring.com>
"V> >> Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of
"V> >> this entire post. Do Vampires exist? Well, first, I am an Inheritor,
"V> >> Class 2.
"V> I am a unicorn, and I think you are full of caca.
Don't reject things so quick Susan.
There is a medical condition that causes photosensitivity and people with this
condition tend to only come out at night. Suprisingly something in blood
helps these people. Not that they go out killing people but it is a start to
the Vampire Myths.
I did have a file on this that a Doctor in Australia had made this study but I
can't locate it. I think a seach of the medical litriture will find it.
Sorry but a 2 in the morning I am not up to it, and no I am not one of them.
Bob...
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Bob Fletcher wrote in message <159_980...@zoist.apana.org.au>...
>There is a medical condition that causes photosensitivity and people with
this
>condition tend to only come out at night. Suprisingly something in blood
>helps these people. Not that they go out killing people but it is a start
to
>the Vampire Myths.
>
>I did have a file on this that a Doctor in Australia had made this study
but I
>can't locate it. I think a seach of the medical litriture will find it.
>
>Sorry but a 2 in the morning I am not up to it, and no I am not one of
them.
You're probably referring to porphyria. Quoting from "More of The Straight
Dope", by Cecil Adams, porphyria is "a disease which causes the body to
not produce an enzyme necessary to produce heme, the red pigment in
hemoglobin, a vital component in blood."
Cecil's source is David Dolphin, a chemist from the University of British
Columbia, who wrote a 1985 paper on this subject.
Jeff Henkels
JC Sutton wrote in message <6d6t17$5...@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>...
>
>I knew a scary boy once who claimed to be a vamp - pointy fingernails,
>stringy hair, you know the drill. He said he lived off souls. If he asked
>for your soul and you agreed, he would write your name down on a peice of
>paper, thus 'owning' you. He claimed if you gave him your soul, he would
>bring you riches and fame.
>
>Smacks of ancient Egyptian religion, tossed around with Rice, Lackey and
>total lameness.
Not to mention a Simpsons episode...
Mark T S
Dan Eisenhauer
bu...@az.com wrote:
: Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
: entire post. Do Vampires exist?
: Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
: I have a few things to say on what a vampire is and what it isn't.
etc...
: - Most Vampires can and do eat regular human food as well: Many are Gourmands,
: that is, people who eat gourmet foods. They have cultivated a taste for fine
: dining over several centuries of life.
A gourmand is a person who is excessively fond of food and drink. In other
words, a glutton. Apparently, vampires can be driven away with dictionaries.
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bu...@az.com
I refuse to quote myself.
I have read your posts, and while I do accept your opinions and beliefs as
your own, is it not true that I also have a right to mine?
Yes, I have read Anne Rice's novels, no I do NOT play "Vampire: the
Masquerade", no I don't have Porphyria, no I don't get migraines. It comes
down to one thing, and one thing only... the truth of my existence.
My very existence should prove to you that, as a group and in all levels of
society, vampires can (and do) lead normal lives. Aside from our, eh, unique
feeding habits, we are just like the rest of you. Anne Rice worked with the
fictional vampire, the one of legend and myth. I speak only of the TRUE
vampires, the ones that walk among you day and night. Your best friend, maybe
your own child, your boss, your co-worker, a classmate... Any one of them
could be one of us, and you'd never know it unless they told you.
I am able to handle sunlight, yes, but I avoid it unless absolutely
neccessary. I would sleep during the day, except I have school, so I'm forcing
myself to sleep at night and be awake during the day. (It's awful!) I eat (and
enjoy) normal food, though I prefer feeding from living sources. I do not
kill, it goes against everything I've ever been taught. But I am still a
killer, and I constantly battle that dark side of myself.
Believe as you will, I will not judge you for it. Do not judge me for my
beliefs, please.
-- Shawna
Oh, yes, and might I add that I know a few other vampires quite personally...
a few of my friends...
Simon Slavin
In article <159_980...@zoist.apana.org.au>,
bo...@zoist.apana.org.au (Bob Fletcher) wrote:
> [In support of the concept of vampirism]
>
> There is a medical condition that
> causes photosensitivity and people with this
> condition tend to only come out at night.
> Suprisingly something in blood
> helps these people.
In this week's _Tomorrow's World_ (a BBC TV programme about emerging
technologies) there was an article about a case where porphyria was
/induced/ in someone as part of an effort to kill off cancer. They
exposed only the cancerous part of this woman to light. Or something
like that. Then they let her recover from the light sensitivity and
now she's all right. Sorry -- I wasn't paying much attention.
So the question is why would people suffering from light-sensitivity
want to suck blood ?
> Not that they go
> out killing people but it is a start to
> the Vampire Myths.
How do you know that photophobic people don't go out killing people ?
I think that we'd probably notice a few desanguinated corpses with
puncture-holes in the neck but they may use other means.
Simon.
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Madeleine Page
bu...@az.com wrote:
: I refuse to quote myself.
First sign of sense you've shown.
: I have read your posts, and while I do accept your opinions and beliefs as
: your own, is it not true that I also have a right to mine?
Absolutely. I don't think any of us has a problem with your believing
you're a vampire, a transmogrified hippo or the fifty fourth reincarnation
of Miss Piggy, honestly, as long as you air your beliefs somewhere other
than alt.folklore.urban. I've no idea what newsgroup might fit your
particular afflic^Wdelus^Winterests. If all else fails, you could try
newgrouping alt.I.am.too.a.vampire.
: My very existence should prove to you that, as a group and in all levels of
: society, vampires can (and do) lead normal lives.
Logic, syntax, logic, syntax... Where to begin? Oh, never mind. Just go
away, there's a dear thing.
Madeleine "Waitaminnit. I've been called an old bat. Could I be...?" Page
Bruce Tindall
>- There are several types -- Classicals, Inheritors, Night-Timers, Genetics,
>Psi-Vamps and Symbiotics.
>- Classicals and Inheritors both have 2 two classes or sub-division to the
>species.
Furrfu. Get an unlife.
B "<rimshot>" T
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JC Sutton
Um, considering that the very /word/ vampire means a reainimated corpse that
rises at night to suck the blood of the living or an extortionist or a woman
who uses sex to exploit men or a bat (courtesy of American Heritage
Dictionary) - all of which you very strenuously claim not to be/do - I
suggest you redefine your exsistance, such as it is. Perhaps 'pathetic
sociopath with a compulsion to drink blood' would do.
-Jenna (that's it, I will not participate in this pathetic grasp for
attention any longer) Sutton. (who's also sorry for supporting it at all
with this final post, just couldn't help m'self)
Paul Tomblin
In a previous article, bu...@az.com said:
>
>Oh, yes, and might I add that I know a few other vampires quite personally...
>a few of my friends...
I think you mispeld "And all my friends (both of them, if you include the
imaginary one) are pathetic losers as well".
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Tim Lindell
On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:40:10 -0600, bu...@az.com wrote:
>myself to sleep at night and be awake during the day. (It's awful!) I eat (and
>enjoy) normal food, though I prefer feeding from living sources. I do not
>kill, it goes against everything I've ever been taught. But I am still a
>killer, and I constantly battle that dark side of myself.
I've always wondered what kind of people correspond with and send
marriage proposals to Death Row inmates. Now I know.
>
>Oh, yes, and might I add that I know a few other vampires quite personally...
>a few of my friends...
>
Friends? Let's not be silly.
Tim "somebody order a 'special' pizza with extra garlic" Lindell
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Charles A. Lieberman
Look look look! See bu...@az.com! See bu...@az.com say:
| Yes, I have read Anne Rice's novels, no I do NOT play "Vampire: the
| Masquerade",
You should try it. I've heard good things about it. A little complex for
simpletons such as myself, perhaps...
| I do not
| kill, it goes against everything I've ever been taught. But I am still a
| killer, and I constantly battle that dark side of myself.
I have no trouble believing that, but I think it's immature (and immaturity
is my expertise) to boast about your seratonin problems and treat it like
it makes you something special and label yourself with a term many people
find unpleasant and pretend they're aberrant.
You don't need blood, you need Zoloft, or St. John's Wort, or something
like that.
| Believe as you will, I will not judge you for it.
Bullshit.
Charles A. Lieberman http://members.tripod.com/~calieber/index.html
Brooklyn, New York, USA
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Ben Walsh
bu...@az.com wrote:
> I have read your posts, and while I do accept your opinions and beliefs as
> your own, is it not true that I also have a right to mine?
You have a right to your beliefs. I have a right to laugh at you,
ridicule you and point out the inalienable fact that you're a deluded
moron.
> My very existence should prove to you that, as a group and in all levels of
> society, vampires can (and do) lead normal lives.
No ... your very existence proves to me that people in need of
psychiatric examination and health often don't get it.
> Believe as you will, I will not judge you for it. Do not judge me for my
> beliefs, please.
What else is there to judge you by?
ben "certainly not your intellect" w.
Keith Willis
There's a certain poetry about executing the un-dead, isn't there?
Keith "damned garlic everywhere..." Willis
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"Susan Vaughn" <windj...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I strongly suggest that you consider becoming another mythical creature --
>perhaps a swamp woman,
My bathroom has been converted into a reasonable facsimile of swamp
woman habitat. If they are indeed mythical, can i reclaim it without
risk?
Jeremy
Simon Whitaker
On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:40:10 -0600, bu...@az.com wrote:
> I would sleep during the day, except I have school
Don't you mean "except the nice doctor comes to give me my injection"? Just
trying to help.
Simon "aorta get out more" Whitaker
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Scott Johnson
bu...@az.com wrote:
>>>> snip rather lenghtly and slightly creepy vampire stuff <<<<<
Hmmmm.... let me see....
> A vampire DOES:
> - Feed on human/animal blood.
I like me steak rare.
> - have emotions. We love, we hate, we laugh, we cry...
Check.
> A vampire does NOT:
> - Sleep in a coffin... well, most don't.
> - Melt/burn in sunlight
> - shrink away from crosses/holy water
Check. Check. Check.
> A vampire IS:
> - a LIVING, BREATHING person.
> - able to eat regular food.
> - able to handle sunlight, etc.
Check. Check. Check.
> A vampire is NOT:
> - "Undead"... that is a word made up by the authors.
> - Human... well... Not ENTIRELY Human, at least.
Check. Check (at least I don't feel very human after midterms).
I have been known to be on the undead side once or twice.
> Other notes:
> - We have senses that are considered 'super-human' or 'paranormal'.
I can sense free food for miles, especially doughnuts.
> - A stake through the heart will kill anything.
Check.
> - We can be killed just as easily as you.
Check.
Gosh, I've been a vampire all this time and never knew???
-Scott "type A negative" Johnson
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UncaMilty
bu...@az.com amazed us with the following:
>> I speak only of the TRUE vampires, the ones that walk among you day and
night. Your best friend, maybe your own child, your boss, your co-worker, a
classmate... Any one of them could be one of us, and you'd never know it unless
they told you.<<
I keep waiting for my boss to admit he's really Napoleon, but he just keeps
insisting that he's crazy.
>>Believe as you will, I will not judge you for it. Do not judge me for my
beliefs, please.<<
I'm glad that you've chosen not to judge my beliefs, because I believe that
you're either pulling my leg, or a few eggs short of a dozen.
Milton Teruel
Jason R. Heimbaugh
Good start, what about the initial outflow?
>My very existence should prove to you that, as a group and in all levels of
>society, vampires can (and do) lead normal lives. Aside from our, eh, unique
>feeding habits, we are just like the rest of you.
Why bother using your words to convince people? Use science (everyone loves
science, science is our friend): Sparky from Florida will soon settle the
immortality claims of the noted self-proclaimed vampire, Rod Ferrell.
--
"Hey, I'm not a lot of people." --Red Green
Jason R. Heimbaugh
>>a few of my friends...
>
>imaginary one) are pathetic losers as well".
I'm confused. When he turns himself into a bat, does that count as his real
or imaginary friend? Or more likely, both?
Jason "ObBob: I used to be a vampire, but I prefer getting laid" Heimbaugh
Mark Tye
Dan Eisenhauer wrote:
>
> bu...@az.com wrote:
> : Now, most people don't believe in vampires, and that is the core of this
> : entire post. Do Vampires exist?
>
> : Well, first, I am an Inheritor, Class 2.
>
> : I have a few things to say on what a vampire is and what it isn't.
> etc...
>
> : - Most Vampires can and do eat regular human food as well: Many are Gourmands,
> : that is, people who eat gourmet foods. They have cultivated a taste for fine
> : dining over several centuries of life.
>
> A gourmand is a person who is excessively fond of food and drink. In other
> words, a glutton. Apparently, vampires can be driven away with dictionaries.
I just consulted, made of mere paper, would not be effective at
this. It contains two definitions of gourmand. The first definition
corresponds with the one that you gave. The second lists "gourmet"
as a synonym for gourmand.
Those vampires must be slow learners. I've managed to cultivate
a taste for fine dining in less than a decade. I wonder what
vampires eat during their first few decades, before they've
developed their gourmet tastes? Spaghetti-O's? Tuna noodle
casserole? Microwave burritos?
-- Mark "All you vampire wannabes can just bite me" Tye
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Ben Walsh wrote:
>>bu...@az.com wrote:
>> Believe as you will, I will not judge you for it. Do not judge me >>for my
>> beliefs, please.
>
>
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Mark Tye <mt...@fnord.com> wrote:
>I wonder what
>vampires eat during their first few decades, before they've
>developed their gourmet tastes? Spaghetti-O's? Tuna noodle
>casserole? Microwave burritos?
ummmmmmm ... Microwave burritos ...
Carl Russmann
Simon Slavin <slavins.at.hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost> wrote:
> technologies) there was an article about a case where porphyria was
> /induced/ in someone as part of an effort to kill off cancer. They
> exposed only the cancerous part of this woman to light. Or something
> like that. Then they let her recover from the light sensitivity and
> now she's all right. Sorry -- I wasn't paying much attention.
Most porphyrins are light sensitive molecules; some will act as
relatively strong oxidizing agents when exposed to light. In cancer
treatment they are injected and accumulate in tumor cells (either
they are specifically targeted or this is just because of the high
metabolic rate of a tumor. I dunno about the specifics). Light is
then applied to the tumor and it's hopefully destroyed by the activated
porphyrins.
> So the question is why would people suffering from light-sensitivity
> want to suck blood ?
Porphyrins are precursors of heme, a component of hemoglobin, which
transports oxygen in the blood. The following quote does a pretty
good job of explaining the vampire myth genetically/biochemically.
"In humans, genetic defects of certain enzymes in the biosynthetic
pathway from glycine to porphyrins lead to the accumulation of specific
porphyrin precursors in erythrocytes, in body fluids, and in the
liver. These genetic diseases are known as porphyrias. In one of the
porphyrias, which affects mainly erythrocytes, there is an
accumulation of uroporphyrinogen I, an abnormal isomer of a precursor
of protoporphyrin. It stains urine red and causes the teeth to
fluoresce strongly in ultraviolet light and the skin to show abnormal
sensitivity to sunlight. Because insuffecient heme is synthesized,
patients with this disease are anemic, shy away from sunlight,
and have a propensity to drink blood. This condition may have
given rise to the vampire myths in medieval folk legend."
from Lehninger, A.L., Nelson, D.L., Cox, M.M. _Principles_of_
_Biochemistry_. Second Edition. pp.710-1 Worth Publishers,
New York, 1993.
I've also hear that this form of porphyria causes the gums to
shrink, making it look like the person has long "fangs".
We had a guest lecture on this topic on halloween a few years
ago. We were just told before that it was a lecture on
vampires. Boy, were we surprised!
Carl "Blood, an excellent source of heme!" Russmann
russ...@intergate.bc.ca