New? UL in Fortean Times - Photos of Jesus
Peter Finin
Dave A. Lartigue <lart...@prairienet.org> wrote:
>We've all heard of alleged photos of Jesus in a cloud, tree, etc., but
>I'd not heard a specific story concerning the taking of such a picture.
I have a question. Assuming that there was an imagine of a human
(presumably a human head) in a cloud, a tree, or whatever, how would
it be identified as being an image of Jesus? No one knows exactly
what he was supposed to look like. There are those who claim he was
black, white, arabic looking, whatever, but no one knows much more
than this, and people don't even agree on this much. If I see an
image of some guy in a cloud, I could just as easily assume it is an
image of David the butcher from Wales, right? Why assume it is Jesus?
Some people are really dumb.
>Dave
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Dave A. Lartigue
Just got the latest Forteat Times (a must for UL fans) and in an article
concerning supposed pictures of Jesus in clouds and such the author, Bill
Ellis, talks about an old FOAF tale that I hadn't heard (& isn't in the FAQ)
Skeptic says "If God is everywhere, then I'll take His picture." Snaps
photo at random. Picture is developed, and lo, Jesus' face can be
located in it. Photographer goes crazy, of course.
We've all heard of alleged photos of Jesus in a cloud, tree, etc., but
I'd not heard a specific story concerning the taking of such a picture.
Dave
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Soo Lee
On 23 Jul 1996 11:37:02 -0400, p...@cs.umbc.edu (Peter Finin) wrote:
>Dave A. Lartigue <lart...@prairienet.org> wrote:
>
>>We've all heard of alleged photos of Jesus in a cloud, tree, etc., but
>>I'd not heard a specific story concerning the taking of such a picture.
>
>I have a question. Assuming that there was an imagine of a human
>(presumably a human head) in a cloud, a tree, or whatever, how would
>it be identified as being an image of Jesus? No one knows exactly
>what he was supposed to look like. There are those who claim he was
>black, white, arabic looking, whatever, but no one knows much more
>than this, and people don't even agree on this much. If I see an
>image of some guy in a cloud, I could just as easily assume it is an
>image of David the butcher from Wales, right? Why assume it is Jesus?
>Some people are really dumb.
What did Jesus look like? Sort of like a WASP with vaguely hippie-like hairdo.
Long brown hair, with matching moustache and beard. Blue eyes. Usually wears a
white dress. At least, this is so according to the animated videotape on Jesus.
I see the commercial for it on local TV station from time to time. I believe
this is the video which caused a furor, because Jesus and the apostles (who
after all, were Jews) somehow had small noses, while the unconverted Jews had
the stereotypical large, hooked noses. Maybe instead of circumcision, early
Christians had nose jobs...
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Peter Finin
Well, there are thousands of people who have vaguely hippe like
hairdoos. As far as brown hair an blue eyes and all, that wouldn't be
apparent in a cloud. I bet that there have been at least a million
people who at some point in their lives have had long, vaguely hippe
like hairdoos, and a beard and mustache, so even assuming that
_somehow_ you know that this is how Jesus looked, lots of other people
have looked that way to. My friend Jason looked like this for a
while. How can people tell that they aren't just seeing pictures of
my friend Jason in the clouds and in trees and stuff? People always
assume that if someone's image appears in a cloud, it must be Jesus,
Mary (his mom), Elvis, or the Devil. I have heard dozens of stories
of one of these four people appearing in a cloud or tree, or wherever.
I have heard not one story of anyone else's image appearing in such a
manner. Desn't it strike anyone as odd that whoever arranges this
sort of thing has so little creativity? Have a picture of someone
else for a change! Good grief.
On the other hand, I supose that it is possible that people are just
really really stupid, and assume that if the image looks like a girl,
it is the virgin Mary, if it looks like a guy with long hair it is
Jesus, short haired guy means Elvis, and anything with horns is the
Devil. They are just too stupid or non-creative to imagine anyone
else appearing in a cloud. The general assumption is that whoever's
image is in the cloud (or tree, or whatever) is responsible for said
image being there. This would imply that these people are incredibly
vain. If I had the power to make things appear in clouds, I sure
wouldn't make images of myself appear there all the time. Off of the
top of my head, I can't think of any artist who consistently does
images of themselves. No one hears about Michaelangelo's
Michaelangelo (sp?). No one here's about Picasso's Picasso. Why is
it the the vrigin Mary only makes pictures of herself appear in
clouds, and the Devil only does pictures of himself?
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Anselm Lingnau
In article <31f5c578...@altnews.pacbell.net>,
Soo Lee <thi...@SoCA.com> wrote:
> What did Jesus look like?
A couple of years back the funny page in _New_Scientist_ told the
following story (paraphrasing from memory):
A church in some out-of-the-way place in Central America hits the news
because on its wall a faint outline of the face of Jesus has begun to
show -- complete with long hair, beard, everything. Pilgrims start
arriving in droves. Closer investigation shows that the church has
recently been freshly whitewashed and that the painters have badly
overpainted a Willie Nelson poster which is now slowly re-emerging.
Anselm `On the road again' Lingnau
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Kevin D. Quitt
On 23 Jul 1996 06:04:13 GMT, lart...@prairienet.org (Dave A. Lartigue) wrote:
>Picture is developed, and lo, Jesus' face can be
>located in it.
As a magician, that's trivial to do - even with polaroids. (Have person pick
a card, concentrate on it, I take their picture. The developed picture shows
them with a ghostly image of the card they chose.
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Scott McDaniel
Peter Finin wrote:
People always
> assume that if someone's image appears in a cloud, it must be Jesus,
> Mary (his mom), Elvis, or the Devil. I have heard dozens of stories
> of one of these four people appearing in a cloud or tree, or wherever.
> I have heard not one story of anyone else's image appearing in such a
> manner.
I saw a sock on America's Funniest Home Videos that looked like Abe
Lincoln.
Scott "Improving the level of discourse" McDaniel
Barbara Mikkelson
Anselm Lingnau <lin...@tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
> A couple of years back the funny page in _New_Scientist_ told the
> following story (paraphrasing from memory) [faint outline of the
> face of Jesus turns out to be a Willie Nelson poster snipped]
That's it. I'm giving up on the John Larocquette Show and instead
subscribing to the _New Scientist_.
Barbara "the plots of sitcoms are mutating -- run! run!" Mikkelson
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Dave Budd
>On 23 Jul 1996 06:04:13 GMT, lart...@prairienet.org (Dave A. Lartigue) wrote:
>>Picture is developed
With your interest in photography, I can't help wondering if you're related
to Jacques Henri Lartigue, who took some rather good photographs in France
back in, ooooh, a long time ago now.
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Peter Finin <p...@cs.umbc.edu> writes:
: else appearing in a cloud. The general assumption is that whoever's
: image is in the cloud (or tree, or whatever) is responsible for said
: image being there. This would imply that these people are incredibly
: vain. If I had the power to make things appear in clouds, I sure
: wouldn't make images of myself appear there all the time. Off of the
: top of my head, I can't think of any artist who consistently does
: images of themselves. No one hears about Michaelangelo's
: Michaelangelo (sp?). No one here's about Picasso's Picasso.
ever heard of a self-portrait? Off the top of my head, I can think of
paintings or prints by Escher, Rembrandt, Kokoschka, Schiele, Kirchner,
and, yes, Michelangelo -- his most famous one is his face in agony on
the flayed skin of Marsyas, in the Judgment wall in the Sistine Chapel.
Matthew "Better Selbstbildnis Bureau" Rabuzzi
Peter Finin
Matthew Rabuzzi <rab...@loc251.tandem.com> wrote:
>Peter Finin <p...@cs.umbc.edu> writes:
>: top of my head, I can't think of any artist who consistently does
^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: images of themselves. No one hears about Michaelangelo's
>: Michaelangelo (sp?). No one here's about Picasso's Picasso.
>I don't know why I'm reading this muzzy-headed babbling, but have you
>ever heard of a self-portrait? Off the top of my head, I can think of
Yes, I have heard of a self portrait. I've even done some. They
weren't very good (but then, little of my "art" is), but that is
beside the point.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am not arguing that artists do
not do the occasional self portrait, just that they do other works of
art. I have not heard of any artist who did nothing but self portraits.
>Matthew "Better Selbstbildnis Bureau" Rabuzzi
Michael Cerny
When I was a kid, one of the photographs was floating around the church
that we attended. An elderly woman claimed that she had pointed her
camera out the window of an airplane and snapped a picture at random.
I couldn't have been but ten at the time, but I remember thinking, "I
wonder where she bought that photo."
--Mike
> lart...@prairienet.org (Dave A. Lartigue) wrote in article
<4t1q0t$s...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>...
>
> Just got the latest Forteat Times (a must for UL fans) and in an article
> concerning supposed pictures of Jesus in clouds and such the author,
Bill
> Ellis, talks about an old FOAF tale that I hadn't heard (& isn't in the
FAQ)
>
> Skeptic says "If God is everywhere, then I'll take His picture." Snaps
> photo at random. Picture is developed, and lo, Jesus' face can be
> located in it. Photographer goes crazy, of course.
>
> We've all heard of alleged photos of Jesus in a cloud, tree, etc., but
> I'd not heard a specific story concerning the taking of such a picture.
>
> Dave
Sarah Irani
>> We've all heard of alleged photos of Jesus in a cloud, tree, etc., but
>> I'd not heard a specific story concerning the taking of such a picture.
>>
>> Dave
I'd LOVE to see some of these pictures. Anyone wanna post a jpg? Or
if posting's not allowed in this group, you can email it to me.
Sarah
duod...@cris.com
Kevin D. Quitt
On 25 Jul 1996 12:06:08 +0200, Anselm Lingnau
<lin...@tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
>A church in some out-of-the-way place in Central America hits the news
>because on its wall a faint outline of the face of Jesus has begun to
>show -- complete with long hair, beard, everything. Pilgrims start
>arriving in droves. Closer investigation shows that the church has
>recently been freshly whitewashed and that the painters have badly
>overpainted a Willie Nelson poster which is now slowly re-emerging.
This was on the John Laroquette show.
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