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Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends

"I will set down a tale...it may be history it may be only
a legend, a tradition. It may have happened, it may not have
happened. But it could have happened..."

-- Mark Twain [via Christopher Neufeld]

This is alt.folklore.urban -- the newsgroup where nonsense is revered
as an artform, and debunking has been taken to new heights.

The group has broadened its god-given mandate from a place for
discussing urban legends (ULs) to a place for confirming or disproving
beliefs and facts of all kinds, including origin of vernacular ("The
whole nine yards", "Sniping like a bald giraffe"), common scientific
fallacies, obscure points of history, stories of pranks, the location
of Foucalt's pendulums, Why "Space 1999" was better than "Star Trek:
TOS," and so on. In other words, it's a great place to get a reality
check on anything that "a friend" told you, or to compare notes about
odd things.

As a result, you will find items in the classic urban legend mold
(e.g., food contamination legends), as well as old wives tales, and
other oddball facts, trivia, and stories.

TWO NOTES TO NEW READERS:

- We encourage you to post any stories you suspect may be an UL. Funny
or whatever. Details matter! Please try to give as much as possible.
BUT, be advised that many of the stories in the FAQ have been hashed
over. If you wish to debate them, be prepared to substantiate your
claim.

- The weasely :-) symbol is frowned upon in this group. Any questions,
see Phil Gustafson who will gladly rearrange your diodes for you and
charge you two-fifty for it.

A NOTE TO OLD AND WOULD BE OLD READERS:

- If you must troll, bear in mind that trolling outside of AFU
is pretty weak.

The purpose of summarizing these frequently-seen legends is to provide
a guide to veracity and their experience in this newsgroup. Most ULs
cannot be traced back to original true incidents, but some, particularly
the more recent ones can be. There are ULs which may, coincidentally,
have a true manifestation, but a true manifestation does not deprive a
UL of its legendary status. However, since many if not most ULs are
false, where possible, I include a comment referring to a true incident,
subject to sufficient evidence, of course.


A DIGRESSION ON URBAN LEGENDS AND "FALSEHOOD"

Occasionally, there is a post to the effect of: "That actually happened
you st*p*d, f*ck*ng, b*st*rds, Jan Harold Brunvand is Polish, the FAQ
list is wrong, the sun rises in the West and it's not an urban legend."
As noted elsewhere in this list and by astute individuals on the net, an
UL does not have to be false. If we take the example of "The Unsolvable
Math Problem" (see below), we find that mathematician George Dantzig is
the probable individual involved. So is this story no longer an UL?
Jan Harold Brunvand addresses this issue thusly:

"Despite finding its [The Unsolvable Math Problem] apparent
origin, I continue to accept anonymous versions as legendary.
Here's why."

"An oral story is a story, whatever its origin. As long as a
story continues to circulate in different variations, partly
by word of mouth, we may regard it as folklore. But probably
'The Unsolvable Math Problem' legend should no longer be
discussed as strictly 'apocryphal,' since we now seem to have
found its source, and the deviations from the original incident
are easily recognized and are not excessive."

- JHB, _Curses! Broiled Again!_, p. 282

Veracity is interesting but far from the only thing when it comes to
the study of urban legends.

MEANWHILE, BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM . . .

I have also begun to collect references to specific volumes of JHB's to
document various classic ULs. This is a slow and on-going process.
Acronyms for Jan Harold Brunvand's books in the list below are:

TVH - _The Vanishing Hitchhiker_
TMP - _The Mexican Pet_
TCD - _The Choking Doberman_
CBA - _Curses! Broiled Again_
TBT - _The Baby Train_

Related newsgroups to consider when posting an article which may be "folklore":
- alt.folklore.computers [guess what this one is about?]
- alt.folklore.science ["Does hot water freeze faster than cold?" Heh.]
- alt.folklore.college [Lots of the same old stuff, but why not?]
- alt.folklore.ghost-stories [A Joel Furr production.]
- sci.skeptic [for those with lots of time on their hands]
- alt.tasteless [frequently more appropriate than not.]
- alt.usage.english [pretty self-explanatory, dontcha think?]
- alt.flame [just a thought else hold that thought]
- alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d [the others are for *pictures* only.]
- alt.religion.kibology [the mother of all newsgroups]
- rec.arts.startrek.misc [Anything about "Lost in Space" will do.]

NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICIAL MOTTO OF A.F.U.
[One free clue: if youse post with one of the following in your article,
youse takes youse chances in this newsgroup.]
"It could have happened, so it must be true."
"Sheesh!"
"Sorry to inject some facts into this newsgroup..."
"It COULD have happened so it MUST have happened"
"Bula Vinaka"
"I read it on USE[less]NET so it must be true."
"You st*p*d f*ck*ng b*st*rds..."
"The way I heard it..."
"I read it in the paper..."
"I think it's stupid. We collect all these business cards, and it turns
out nobody wants them."
"Mumpsimus"
"Furrfu!"
"Bzzzzt!"
"No Facts but..."
"And as for the voracity [sic] of the source, this is my GRANDMOTHER
you're talking about."
"True story as far as anyone knows. No particular reason why it should
be doubted."
"I can't vouch for the veracity of your story. But there's enough stupidity
out there that I'll believe it."
"He might have. That alone is enough to prove..."
"Are you saying that some soaps are not detergents but that no detergents
are soaps?" [Happy, Chuck Adams? Sheesh!]
"Well, looking at my couch, I could see how this would happen"
"Excuse me. But can anyone tell me what's going on here?"
"I'm not making this up. I've seen a wargame of the battle of Stalingrad
which includes an optional counter for mine dogs, so it must be true.
"I will not describe it so don't even bother asking me about it."
"My girlfriend has seen people doing this. Sources don't come more reliable."
"If you doubt this crap, Ive [sic] got a copy I could quote."
"I heard the story. It wasn't cocaine, it was a cat."
"Exaggeration makes a better story."
"Yup. I've heard that one too so it must be true."
"I didn't keep any references as I didn't think it would be a subject on AFU."
"I do not post speculation or bullshit to this newsgroup."
"Sounds like bullshit to me."
"I must say, with all due respect, the tone of your reply is typical of
much of the dialog that goes on on this network and newsgroup. Any
apparent weakness or oversight, real or not, becomes the occasion for
an attack on the basic intelligence of the person who reveals it -- in
this case the lecturer whose talk some fifteen years ago I sketchily
summarized."
"I can't remember where I heard that, so it must be true."
"Your intuition is excellent, but another viewpoint could be helpful."
"...you're still wrong, even taking your pedantry at face value."
"Well, this has nothing to do with San Francisco or pus, but..."
"Yes a film of that does exist. Some kids I once knew in high school
once saw it."
"[f]rankly I couldn't give a fig what you all say, this happens[...]"
"Home address and plane fare on request, punk."
"If it isn't true, it should be, and if we could afford it, it would be."
"Why don't you just select your silly MOTTO and get on with it."

AFU MAN OF THE YEAR
- Terry Chan (1991)
- Trelford Pinkerton (1992)
- Phil Gustafson (1993)

SPECULATION ON CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK'S MIDDLE NAME
- "Terry"
- "Tirebiter"
- "Tennessee"
- "Tyrone"
- "Tin-Plated Dictator with Delusions of Godhood"
- "Teriyaki"

OFFICIAL AFU MASCOT
- My pet King snake, Elvis
- Peter's pet dalmatian dog, Pixel
- snopes' pet cat, Snopes
- little gator's non-biological gator, harvee
- Cindy's pet troll, Steinar
- Nigel's pet human, Joel Furr
- Weasels! Weasels! Weasels!

HACK ETYMOLOGIES FOR THE WORD 'POSH'
- Puke On Shoes Here
- Port Out, Starboard Home
- Passed Out, She Hurled
- Post Office: Shergold's Hospital
- Pulmonary -- Oxygenated Supply to Heart
- Port Out, Sherry Home
- Prow Outward, Stern Homeward

OFFICIAL AFU PHOTOGRAPHERS
- Dan Wright and Patrick S. Clark

OFFICIAL FOOD OF AFU
- Chicken Mole'
- Red Velvet Cake
- Poinsettia salad
- Kentucky Fried Chicken
- little gator's Deep Sh*t Cookies

OFFICIAL BIG DIC OF AFU
- The OED or Winston Churchill (tie)

Okay, the major categories are:
- The Misappliance of Science
- The 'Plane Truth (What goes up...)
- Does Not Compute
- Twinkie Twitter
- Mad Medicine
- Wind Powered Fantasies
- Stupid Academia Tricks
- Stupid People Tricks
- What's in a Word?
- Reefer Madness
- How Firm is Your Foundation?
- Kill Your Television!
- Astonishing Antipodean Antics
- Lewd Food
- Snuff Movies
- Upstanding Legends of the Penis and Scrotum
- Hide the Salami
- Disney Dementia (and other amusement park legends)
- Question Authority!
- Legal Beagles
- Wild Life in the Fast Lane
- Legends About Natatory Capabilities of Large Anthropoid Primates
- Astounding Avian Anomalies
- Doggie-Style and Cattie-Wumpus
- Other Animal Crackers
- Arthropod Crackers
- Some References and Credits

Key to one liners below:
T = 100% scientific truth
Tb = believed true, but not conclusively proven
F = 100% falsehood
Ft = A legend, mostly untrue, but with a true occurrence or known origin.
Fb = believed false, but not conclusively proven
U = unanswered and may be unanswerable
P = Maybe it didn't happen, but it's scientifically possible
(used extremely sparingly, where the opposite is expected,
as it could apply to just about every legend)

There is a comment, "*", on certain lines in the FAQ. This indicates
that there is further information on this point available via anonymous
ftp. Thanks to the great generosity of Jason R. Heimbaugh (CatStyle)
and the Grate State of Illinois, the site name is cathouse.org
(128.174.184.32). The subdirectory is /pub/cathouse. For our overseas
folk, Haakon "Cookie Monster" Styri has also established a mirror site at
balder.nta.no (128.39.1.8). The subdirectory is /pub/alt.folklore.urban.
Many thanks for their efforts.

Hint: Grab the file named "Filelist.txt" for a description of what's there.

================================================================================

THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
F.*You can make as much ice faster by starting with warmer water.
T.*Boiled water freezes faster than ordinary water at same initial temp.
T.*Hot water evaporates while freezing, producing 75% of ice in 90% of time.
See "Hot water freezes faster than cold water. Why does it do so?",
Jearl Walker in The Amateur Scientist, Scientific American, Vol. 237,
No. 3, pp 246-257; September, 1977 and "The Freezing of Hot and Cold
Water", G.S. Kell in American Journal of Physics, Vol. 37, No. 5, pp
564-565; May, 1969.
F. A penny falling from height of Empire State building will embed in pavement.
[Yeah, yeah, it's mentioned in the _Life in Hell_ books]
T. There is no truth to the rumor that James "T." Kirk's middle name is Terry.
F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.
Fb.Microwaving panties kills yeast infections (cold spots in oven...)
F. Coloring your CD's rim with (special) marker will enhance sound quality.
T.*CDs are the size they are because it could hold Beethoven's 9th symphony.
F.*People explode/boil/something in the vacuum of space.
F. Eelskin wallet demagnetizes bank cards (nope, but magnetic clasp might).
F. Daylight sky appears dark enough to see stars from bottom of deep well.
T. Venus and perhaps a few other bright stars/planets can be seen in daylight.
F. Bubbles in bubble wrap contain a cheap, but toxic gas.
U. East German secret police "bug" factory now uses skills to make hearing aids
F. Hot-drying acid-washed jeans "re-activates" the acid(Nope, but might shrink)
F. Ontario Hydro mandated poor installation,so copper fails as often as Alum.
T. Fluorescent lamp will light up when held near high-voltage line.
T. You sure can raise bloody hell asking about physics/chemistry on AFU.
Tb.Fluorescent light will break down vitamins in clear milk containers.
F. Fluorescent lights leach vitamins from your body.
Tb.Leather saddles used to be treated with llama dung to avoid scaring horses
Tb.The spec. for leather saddles got copied for leather jackets...
T. 3M "post-it" notes were invented & marketed as an unofficial project
T.*Subliminal messages in advertising are ineffective, but outlawed anyway.
["Media Sources and Business Legends" in TCD]
T.*...Ted Frank posted cite of USA law.
U. Filamentous phage M13 obtained from lab's letter rejecting the transfer!
T. Long term storage of paper in a PVC envelope is harmful (fumes degrade it).
T. Some combinations of metal tooth fillings can receive radio signals.
F. Printer/copier toner is carcinogenic. [But be careful about breathing it.]
F.*The moon is larger near the horizon than up in the sky due to refraction.
T.*The above is due to an optical illusion.
T.*Indiana House Bill #246 of 1897 would've set pi=3.2, killed in state Senate.
Fb.Some state (e.g., Kansas) once considered a bill setting pi = 3.
F. US and Russia won't destroy their cultures of smallpox for fear of bio- war.
Fb.People only use 10% of their brain capacity (whatever that means).
F. If the entire population of China jumped up at the same time: a) the Earth's
orbit would be disturbed, b) the entire US would be swamped by a tidal wave.
Fb.If all the Chinese screamed at the same time, people in the US could hear it
U. This message is costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
T. There was a natural nuclear reaction in Africa long ago [NOT an explosion.]
F. Swimming right after eating will cause cramps and you'll drown.
F. Squeezing out the air from a partially consumed soda bottle will keep soda
from going flat.
F. There are workmen who died building Hoover Dam and were entombed in it.
F. There is a pillar in India made of metal found nowhere else in the world.
Tb.Tomatoes are not vegetables, they're berries. [Thanks, Scott C.]
Tb.Women workers in old watch factories got poisoning by licking brushes used
for applying radium compound to watch faces.
U. Deckard was a replicant. [I don't care about the "Director's Cut."]
F. Large telescope mirrors often become distorted due to glass flow.
F. You can see glass flow in the windows of old buildings.
Tb.MRI used to be called "Nuclear MRI", but "N" was dropped due to nuke fear.
T. Nobody except Doug Spindler came up with any good stuff on the origins
of Daylight Saving Time.
U. "Trekkies" are controlling the minds of everyone on the net.
Fb.A newspaper spellchecker sub'd "In the African-American" for "in the black."
F.*Welding while wearing contacts can cause them to stick to your eyeballs.
F. NASA sends Swiss watchmakers very thin threads of gold; they send back
drilled w/holes. [Similar story w/Japan and US.]
T. Marvin Minsky once followed up to a post by Peter van der Linden.
F.-Standing a hard-boiled egg on end has something to do with an equinox.
F.-There was a "Philadelphia Experiment" that tried to make stuff invisible.
T. Give Bill Nelson an order of magnitude or two.
F. You'll probably die if your skin is coated w/paint, but not of asphyxiation.

THE 'PLANE TRUTH (WHAT GOES UP...)
T. 800ft diameter asteroid passed within 500K miles of hitting earth in 1989.
T. Confused pilots occasionally land on tiny strip short of correct airport.
T. F51D plane can flip due to engine torque.(A. Frisbie posted pilot's manual!)
Tb.US Govt fixed plane transponders always report positions(catch drug imports)
T. Airforce/manufacturers tests planes by firing chickens from special cannon.
Tb Cessna planes aren't sold in the US anymore due to threat of liability suits
T. Beechcraft and Mooney still make & sell planes in the US however...
T. Pilot can discreetly signal a hijack by setting the transponder to "7500"
Tb.Leave flaps down when off the active as a request for armed intervention!!
F. The Great Wall of China can be seen with the naked eye from the moon.
T. Many manmade structures can be seen with the naked eye from Earth orbit.
F. Shuttle crew did secret experiment on how to make love in zero gravity.
Tb.Jet lag is exacerbated by alcohol consumption.
T. Parachute mishap brought down a Cessna (gently) on a novice's parachute.
F. Airlines use a gas to keep passengers mildly sedated and less troublesome.
U. Similar story of lowering cabin pressure below usual.
Fb.Both pilots on airliner end up locked out of cockpit in lavatory mixup.
["Death and Danger in the Air" in CBA]
U. In 90% of plane crashes, the words "Oh sh*t!" appear on the flight recorder.
Fb.Another passenger arrives for full plane; airline employee Gay must give up
his seat. Someone else answers yes to "Are you Gay?"; Gay says "*I'm* Gay";
more passengers chime in that they're gay and "They can't kick us all off."


DOES NOT COMPUTE
T. Computers have been stolen.
T. Apple use a Cray to design hardware systems; Cray use an Apple...
T. Prodigy grabs large sectors of the disk, containing data from deleted files.
F. Prodigy slyly reads your disk & nefariously uploads your top secrets to IBM.
F. Stories about Seymour Cray's strange hobbies (annual boat burning etc).
F.*The FCC is proposing a modem tax (Nope, the proposal died in 1987).
T. Bill Gates has $750K Porsche 959 he can't use;no type compliance,no license!
U. New computer system "lost" a Montgomery Ward Calif warehouse for 3 years...
T. "q=q++;" is an undefined statement under ANSI C(same object modified twice).
T. Calling "#" a pound sign as in common US parlance really riles some folks up
T. "#" is frequently referred to as a "hash" mark outside the US.
F. Russian/Chinese mechanical translator translates "out of sight, out of mind"
into "blind and insane". Also "Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak"
as "the drink is good but the meat is rotten."
U. IBM ordered a whole bunch of "THIMK" games; but printer changed to "THINK".
...a.B. Mayers claims to have dug up a receipt for same. Getting close.
T. In 1947 a moth was found in a relay of the Harvard Mark II machine, and
taped into the logbook as the "first actual case of bug being found".
T. The log book used to be in building 1200 "K-lab" of the Naval Surface
Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division. Now at the Smithsonian MoAH.
F. Grace Hopper coined the term "bug" as a result of this event.
T. Grace Hopper was a programmer for the Mark II and often told the moth story.
T. "Bug" was used to mean a design defect as far back as Edison's time.
T. If you feel a need to finger a coke machine,try finger co...@g.gp.cs.cmu.edu


TWINKIE TWITTER
T. "animal or vegetable shortening" on ingredients list == LARD
F. Hostess snacks (Twinkies, Cupcakes, etc.) aren't baked! They set,like jello
Fb.Twinkies eat mold... If mold grows on a twinkie, the twinkie digests it...
T. There really were chocolate "iced" Twinkies.
F. Singer John Denver served as a sniper in Vietnam (poss. his dad was).
T. David DeLaney sure has lots of free time.


MAD MEDICINE
T. London doctor struck off for inveigling Turkish peasants to donate a kidney.
F.*Dr. C. Drew, a plasma researcher; bleeds to death when hospital turns him
(a black man) away. [Similar story with death of Blues great Bessie Smith.]
U. Hypnosis is a fake! Net says "Yes, no, zzzz". [But does remove warts.]
F. Flowers are bad in hospital rooms because they suck oxygen out of air.
F. Taking baking soda as an antacid is bad 'cause CO2 can rupture your stomach.
U. Woman had "tree in the bedina" -- potato used as pessary, sprouted...
U. Woman had "Smiling Mighty Jesus" -- spinal meningitis.
U. Woman had "sick as hell anemia" -- sickle cell anemia
U. Woman named child "Nosmo King" after sign on delivery room door.
F. There is a special ward for "Newky Brown" addicts in Newcastle General
F.*Person's hair turns entirely white "overnight" from stress.
T. Some people sneeze when exposed to bright light ("photic sneeze effect").
Tb.You can catch diseases (crabs, lice, herpes, VD, etc) from public toilets.
Tb.Patient died when intravenously given Kaopectate.
U. FDA approval causes cancer.
T. Yes, we've heard of Coca-cola as a douche, but if you're that desperate,
you're in big trouble.
Tb.Drinking large quantities of deionized/distilled water over a long period
of time can screw you up due to ion imbalances.
F. Hair/nails continue to grow after death.
T. They appear to as the corpse shrinks.
F. Woman sees doc with irritated eye. Sez a male stripper rubbed his pouch in
her eye. Doc checks and removes a louse from it.
F. "Ear lobe" repair is booming in NYC because thieves rip earrings off women.
F. Thugs hide under cars in malls and cut ankles of women returning to cars.
[Above two in TBT.]
Tb.Rat(s) eat face of child while child is near adult in poor side of town.
F. An autopsy reveals big hairballs in lungs of a man who breathed in bits
of hair while he worked, and thus suffocated him.
T. RT's wife's small hair ball nearly killed her. And she's got a big scar.
F. Girl dies of big hairball in stomach from chewing on ends of her braids.
[Above two in "The Hair Ball" in TMP.]
F. Mime has heart attack during act. People think it's part of act; he dies.
Tb.Reported to have happened to Dick Shawn, known comic actor.
F. B.F. Skinner's daughter died/committed suicide/sued because of she was
reared in a Skinner box/special crib.
Fb.Left-handed people have shorter life spans than righties.
Fb.Women/people shouldn't sit on cold cement or metal 'cause it might hurt
their plumbing or cause piles.
F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.


WIND-POWERED FANTASIES
T. Fin-de-siecle Frenchman,Petomane,got rich farting as music hall act.Fartist.
U. Blowback (blowforward?) from ignited fart, singed frat-boy's intestines.
U. Vet cut vent-hole in cow's flank, lit escaping gases, burned down barn...
Tb.A patient's intestine explodes from cauterization during surgery due to gas.
T. A patient's intestine exploded during a colotomy.


STUPID ACADEMIA TRICKS
NOTE: Many university-based ULs are passed continually. Before posting, check
out the references below and in Appendix B of JHB's textbook which has a
survey of academe ULs by Barre Toelken.
Also check out the alt.folklore.college FAQ list which used this list as
a base and has been regularly maintained by Ted Frank.
T. Prof lists famous unsolved problems;student thought it was homework- solved!
(Student was George Dantzig.) ["The Unsolvable Math Problem" in CBA.]
Fb.Student cheats on exam,asks "do you know who I am?",jams paper in exam pile!
["Bluebook Legends" in TMP]
Fb.Professor jostled; misses watch;grabs back from jostler; later finds at home
[Variation of "The Jogger's Billfold" in TCD]
F. College roommate commits suicide, gets you an automatic "A" for courses.
["The Suicide Rule" in CBA.]
T. Student gets tuition $ by asking for $0.01 from each person via newspaper.
Tb.Students find rolled-up carpet; take and unroll in dorm room to find body.
Fb.Student kills self during exam by putting 2 pencils in nose and hitting desk
T. People's lawn gnomes/elves stolen; owners were sent letter/pics from exotic
locations with the ornament. ["Roaming Gnomes" in CBA]
T. Famous UL researcher misspells the subtitle of a Star Trek film in a book.
F. Two co-eds alone in dorm; one goes to study; other in room; roomie hears
heavy dragging sounds; blocks door; hears scratches; waits til morning;
opens door to find other co-ed with ax in head who was scratching for help.
["The Roommate's Death" in TVH and TMP]
Fb.Students buy a barber pole and drive the town. Stopped continually by police
F. Girl is alone at home/dorm with dog; sleeps; hears noise and a dripping
sound; is frightened but reaches to dog and feels a lick; goes back to
sleep. In morning, finds dog hanged in shower and note under bed which
says "humans can lick too." ["The Licked Hand" in TCD]
Fb.Prof. gives "announced" quiz to surprised class after putting ad in paper.
Fb.Prof. allows students to "bring in what they can carry for exam"; student
carrys in a grad student" (variation on allowing use of "Feynman").
Fb.Prof. nails exam thief by cutting bottom 0.5" of exam to find longer answer.
Fb.Philosophy prof.'s 1 word exam: "Why?" "A" to student who replies "Why not?"
[Many, many variations].
Fb.Low grading prof. grades same exam in successive semesters; gives higher
grade each time. 4th time around (or so), writes: "Like it more each time".
[Version with drawing of a whale.]
Fb.Prof. lectures class on sugar content of ejaculate. Girl then asks "Why
does it taste so salty then?" Runs out of class amidst laughter.
Fb.Science class students take swab from inside of cheek and examine under
microscope. One group sees odd organisms and calls prof. who looks and
declares that it's sperm.
Fb.Student submits 20 yr old paper for class; prof. gives "A"; says he always
liked it but he only got a "B" when he wrote it. [The above 6 are in
"College Con Artists and How They Operate" in CBA]
T. Prof. Donald "Art of Computer Programming" Knuth's 1st publication was in
MAD mag. (MAD #33 "The Potrzebie system of weights and measures")
F. Frat holds blood drive. Some grossly high % of frat donors are HIV positive.
T. There seems to be quite a few university buildings named after Kresge.
Fb.Prof. demos test for diabetes by dipping finger in several flasks of urine
and then licking it. Then asks students to do same. They do, after which
he says he dipped with one finger and licked with the other.
Fb.alt.folklore.college is dead.
Fb: Co-ed responds to "quizzy" announcement with fear of "testies", blushes.

STUPID PEOPLE TRICKS
T.*Craig Shergold, UK cancer kid,sought get-well cards,overwhelmed with 33 mil.
T.*Craig Shergold, UK health plan wouldn't operate;Kluge paid;tumor was benign!
T.*Lousy quality CS GIF courtesy of Phil Kernick available via anonymous ftp.
T. Craig Shergold's 13th birthday was June 24, 1992.From now June 24 is AFUday.
T. His name has been misspelled several times in various pleas.
T. But he sure as heck doesn't want or need any more cards now.
T.*See _The Guinness Book of Records 1992_, p. 207.4 for his listing.
T.*See 19 July 1990 _NY Times_ (p. 24), _People_ magazine 10 June 1991, p. 63.
T.*Check the afu anonymous ftp site for sources and references.
T.*Cards that are sent to the hospital no longer go to him.
T. A variation of the above now includes a call for business cards.
[Classic American UL in this genre is "Postcards for Little Buddy" in CBA]
T. There was a version involving bar codes which was a hoax.
Tb.Craig Shergold lives in an "unsalubrious" section of town, but
...John Slater doesn't think Craig live in an "unsalubrious" area anymore.
Tb.Craig voted on the folklore rmgroup from Craig_s...@vms.cis.pitt.edu.
U. Errol Flynn was invited to "black tie" party; went nude,except for black tie
U. Ed Zotti is Cecil Adams, or Marilyn vos Savant, or Isaac Asimov, or....
T. Some, one, or all of the above reads AFU.
T. Some beggars with "will work for food" signs are just extra sympathy scams.
T.*People have been injured by rocking a vending machine that falls on them.
Fb.Man's house demolished after friend placed ad in paper for a joke.
Fb.US GI captures Iraqi soldier - they knew each other from Chicago.
F. Special chemical for swim pools, turns bright color on contact with urine.
F. "3 Men & a Baby" has a scene with a real ghost in it.
Fb.Wife sprays toilet with flammable bug spray, husband shits, smokes, explodes
Wife sprays toilet with flammable hair spray, you know the rest, etc.
["Hilarious Accidents" in TMP. Variations in TVH.]
Fb*Aluminum ring pull tabs are collected & exchanged for dialysis machine time.
["Redemption Rumors" in TMP]
T. ...Some places or people (e.g., The Ronald McDonald House in Rochester, MN)
do collect tabs for their scrap value and raise $$ for various causes.
T. The MN connection has been noted by many people. One of the better and
more recent articles was posted by Sarah Skovronsky.
F. Chanting "Mary Worth" before a mirror summons dead spirit at slumber parties
...Related to famous La Llorona legend? ["I Believe in Mary Worth" in TMP]
Fb.Male athlete cheats drug test with wife's pee; test shows he's pregnant.
T. Infirm, elderly, obese alcoholics have set themselves on fire occasionally.
F. People occasionally spontaneously combust and burn to death. Whoompfh!
F. Cabbage Patch dolls are possessed by the devil.
F. Kid sends broken Cabbage Patch dolls sent back. Death certificate sent back.
["The Cabbage Patch Tragedy" in TMP]
Fb.Couple stays in odoriferous hotel room;informed next day of body in mattress
F. Someone is crushed to death trying to shrink blue jeans by wearing in tub.
["Product Defect and Liability Legends" in TCD]
F.*Tourists' room is burgled, later finds snaps of "toothbrush up thief's ass".
["Indecent Exposure" in TBT]
F. Two guys see kid fishing; kid says fish aren't biting but worms are; on way
back; they discover kid slumped over; worms were baby water moccasins!
["The Can of Snakes" in TMP]
Fb.Child's foot/leg is amputated after pumping Reeboks shoes too tight.
T. For some reason, some folks kill snakes by grabbing tail and "snapping" them
T. "Chicken sexing" is big business. Started by Asian family.
T."little gator" S. Mudgett is mentioned in one of Cecil's books.
F. Folks find casks of wine in cellar of old house. Tap and drank from several
of them. Later, preserved body of original house owner found in cask.
[Body in the cask motif may find some basis in old story of Admiral Nelson
of Battle of Trafalgar. His body was shipped back in wine/rum cask. Upon
arrival in UK, cask was low/empty. "The body in the cask" in TCD.]
Tb.Nautical saying: "Tapping the Admiral" is based on the above.
F. Boyfriend tells girlfriend they're through and she should leave when he
leaves on a long trip. He returns to find phone off the hook connected to
the "time" recording in Japan/some far away place.
["The Lover's Telephone Revenge" in CBA]
F. Helicopter fights forest fires by scooping water from lake. Charred body
of scuba diver found in ashes. ["Death and Danger in the Air" in CBA]
F. Fat person on ship/airline toilet has intestines sucked out due to vacuum.
T. A similar accident happened to a little girl who sat on a wading pool
drain in North Carolina happened on 26 June 1993 [she didn't die].
U. Brian "Allah Mode" Scearce manages the "Hors de Combat" female mudwrestlers.
Fb.Some guy in a foreign country teaches the locals that a certain obscene
handsign (to him) was actually a welcoming gesture. Locals all pose for
pictures while making the gesture.
F. Woman on bus raises a man's hand and asks "Who does it belong to? It was
on my butt." Several red-faced men get off at next stop.
T. Jan Harold Brunvand's son, Erik, teaches at UU and even read a.f.u. Sheesh!
T.*There's a gif of Jan Harold Brunvand available via anonymous ftp.
F. Halloween sadists randomly give poisoned candy to children.
T. A Texas child was poisoned by his father on Halloween in 1974.
[Above two are in "Halloween Sadists" in CBA]
F. Woman frequents tanning salons; develops funny smell; innards cooked!
["Curses! Broiled Again" in _CBA_]
T. A guy goes a-shooting at Saguaro cacti; hits one. It falls and kills him!
["The Plant's Revenge" in _CBA_]
F. Someone couldn't call for help because they couldn't dial the "11" in "911".
["Dial 911 for Help" in TCD]
T. Lots of people comment on the FAQ list without actually reading it.
Tb.People were once frequently mistaken for dead and were buried alive.
Tb.Edison's last breath is kept in a jar in Michigan. (Well, sort of).
Tb.Elvis lives near Palo Alto, works for Sun, and speaks w/an English accent.
Fb.Co-ed loses tampon inside prior to blind date; worried; sees school intern;
is acutely embarrassed. Her date turns out to be the intern!
Fb.Young man buys condom from pharmacist; he's embarrassed so boasts of date.
He picks her up, pharmacist/dad answers the door! ["The Blind Date" in TMP]
F. Bride at big wedding thanks each person, then thanks groom for sleeping
w/maid-of-honor. Then throws bouquet, etc. ["The Bothered Bride" in TMP]
F. Kid in Michael Jackson's commercial breaks neck and dies from: breakdancing,
OD, hit by motorcycle. Kid is Alfonse Ribera. Rumored of many TV kids.
[See "Michael Jackson's Dancing Partner" inTMP]
F. First 7 numbers on bar code of "Thriller" album is Michael Jackson's phone.
["Michael Jackson's Telephone Number" in TMP]
F.*Phil Collins' song "In the Air Tonight" is about a death witnessed by Phil.
T. ...Sheesh! This was even debunked in _Parade_ magazine.
T. Crotch seam rivet in original Levi's dropped due to pain from standing near
fires.
F. Several suburban white women visit big city. They nervously enter elevator
which has a black man and a dog.He says "Sit Lady!" They promptly sit on the
floor but he was talking to the dog!
T. ...UL ends w/free dinner, roses, or tickets to concert for ignorant women.
T. ...Guys mentioned include Reggie Jackson, Wilt Chamberlain, Lionel Ritchie,
...Eddie Murphy, O.J. Simpson, Joe Greene and Magic Johnson.
T. ...There is an amusing variant about the English parliament (look it up).
T. ...Older version:woman stuck in an elevator where two black men piss on her.
[Above five are in "The Elevator Incident" in CBA.]
Fb.Some famous artist (Picasso/DaVinci/etc.] wants a new piece of furniture
or furniture to be moved. Draws sketch for workman; who says no charge
for the artist if he can keep the sketch.
F. Couple hires hippie-type babysitter. Later, mother calls and sitter says
everything is fine; she's stuffed the turkey and put it in the oven.
Mom worries since they don't have an turkey; parents rush home and find
that stoned sitter has (or is about to) put baby in the (microwave) oven.
["The Hippie-Babysitter" in TVH.]
F. "Clever" babysitter stops baby crying by holding its head in oven.
["The Clever Babysitter" in TMP]
U. A plain-Jane coed invited to special night out by a BMOC. As she gets ready,
has bad gas from lunch. Date arrives;so plans to fart in car before he gets
in. She farts and quickly rows down window. Date gets in, says,"I'd like you
to meet Tom and Mary in the backseat." ["The Fart in the Dark" in TVH.]
Fb.Family visits wilderness park. They see bears and want to get "cute pics"
of bear w/child so they smear honey on his cheek. Bear eats child's face.
F. Bride's father at wedding goes to pay band, but wallet is missing and has
to take up collection from guests. Later viewing of wedding video shows
groom's father lifting bride's father's wallet! ["Sex Scandals" in TCD]
Tb.Some guys who make $ recycling aluminum strip a house with new siding.
Tb.People (mostly guys) have been electrocuted pissing on a subway's 3rd rail.
T. Common UL mills include Dear Abby, Ann Landers, and Paul Harvey.
F. Woman lighting fire opens door w/hot poker;robber at door sees and grabs it!
(Var. where woman is holding a knife). ["The Robber Who was Hurt" in TCD]
U. People who feel the need to argue that 1 Jan 2000 is or is not the start
of the 21st century need to get a life.
F. Clocks are commonly displayed at 8:18/8:20/10:10 because that's when JFK
or Abraham Lincoln was shot.
T. The song "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted.
F. ...Paul McCartney owns the rights.
T. "Dave Rhodes" letter asking for money is bogus.
Fb.Some guy who works at a factory takes home a part a day until some time
later he has a Cadillac/tank/truck.
Tb.Putting a sleeping person's hand in water will cause him/her to pee for
some people but not for others.


WHAT'S IN A WORD?
[Try checking out the OED and the Dictionary of American Regional English
for etymological history; _The Penguin Dictionary of Historical Slang_,
by Eric Partridge (abridged by Jacqueline Simpson). Penguin books. For
you other types, there's always alt.usage.english.]
F.*The etymology of the 4-letter word "f*ck" is an acronym of old. [e.g.
"Fornication Under Consent of the King.]
T. Lord knows, there're lots of variations of initials/names for "Jesus Christ"
F. 'HAL' in the film "2001: A Space Odyssey" was derived from letters for "IBM"
Tb.The expression "86" (to put the kibosh on), originated in 1920s diner slang.
T. A.J.Balfour appt'd Secretary Ireland by Uncle Bob.Nepotism? Bob's your uncle
T. JF Kennedy said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Could be either "I am a native of
Berlin" or "I am a jelly doughnut." Berliners knew what he was talking about
T. Hebrew was considered as official language of the US. [Guess what happened?]
F.*German was once within one or two votes of becoming the official US language
T. Fijian on the AT&T ad says ""Bula vinaka, beachside!" ("hello, thanks").
T. Many languages don't pronounce foreign words/phrases as they really are.
Fb.US Civil War Gen. Hooker is the source for a common term for streetwalkers.
Tb....Though he may have helped popularize it.
F.*Thomas Crapper invented the flush toilet.
T.*Thomas Crapper did exist and made improvements to modern flushing mechanisms
T. M. Gardner said that Crapper was bogus. But retracted it in one of his books.
F.*The word 'crap' is derived from Thomas Crapper.
F. Otto Titzling invented the brassiere.
F.*The words to "Louie, Louie" are dirty.[Thanks to Maiko Covington for lyrics]
F. Eskimos have some megaboss number of words for snow.
F.*"Posh" is from "Port Out, Starboard Home" from Colonial English days.
T.*"Hamburgers" and "Frankfurters" are named after cities in Germany.
T.*"In like Flynn" is from Errol Flynn's acquittal on statutory rape charges.
T.*"Okay" or "OK" is originally from a misspelling fad: "Oll Korrect" (all
correct); popularized by "Old Kinderhook" Van Buren in election campaign.
T. The du Pont Co. has claimed (1940) that "nylon" was an arbitrary coinage,
but also (1978) that it was a modification of "no run" spelled backwards.
F. Jack Kerouac wrote that "Pig" stands for "Protector of Immutable Government"
T. "Futhark" is an acronym.
F. "Furrfu" honors Joel Furr, who flamed a proposed rmgrouping of
alt.folklore.computers to ashes in late 1992.
F. The song "Puff the Magic Dragon" is about smoking pot or Vietnam war weapon.
T. Paul Tomblin maybe divorced but he sure talks about his ex-wife a lot.
Tb.Fred Ennis will never be as snide as Paul Tomblin.
T. Winston Churchill once said something memorable.
T. There is no good etymology for the phrase "The whole nine yards."
T. Suggestions have included: Volume in a concrete mixer, coal truck, or
a wealthy person's grave; amount of cloth in a man's custom-made (i.e.,
"bespoke") suit, sports games, funeral shroud, kilt, or in a bolt of cloth.
T.*Studies indicate that the majority of US currency has traces of cocaine.


HOW FIRM IS YOUR FOUNDATION?
T. David Johnston read AFU for *9* months before posting. BFD.
F. Building is built backwards. Public criticizes; Architect commits suicide.
Tb.There have been buildings built backwards.
F. Various university libraries sink; books heavier than architect thought!
F. Same as above, but pool not library, weight of water, not books.
Ft.Lots of bldgs (malls, etc.) are sinking into the ground as we post!
[See "Back to the Drawing Board--Some Architectural Legends" in CBA]
T. Some universities, cities are riddled with semi-secret utility tunnels.
T. Clouds and other weather can transpire in the upper parts of high structures
Fb.RC Church building plans reviewed by Pope/Vatican; response was "we are not
angels"; plans had no loos!
Fb.Bldg collapses due to gas explosion from buried dead elephant under it.
T. Soldiers break step when marching over bridges (trivially observed).
U. Bridge falls down if soldiers don't break step when marching over.
Fb.Bridge falls down due to resonance if soldiers don't break step marching
over. Broughton suspension bridge, England, 14 April 1831, fell under
soldiers march, but prob just overloaded, not resonating. Mark Brader
posted Times story!
F. Otherwise sound bridge falls down if soldiers don't break step marching
over. (There have been no documented instances of this)
F. Arizona resorts are prewired for slot machines should gambling be okay'd.
F. Young woman meets beau's family for 1st time. During dinner, she has to
take a leak and asks where the bathroom is. She goes in, but finds it's
a bathroom w/no toilet! She looks around, can't find it. Being desperate
and embarassed, she stands on sink to do it. Family hears loud crash and
run to find that she's unconscious/bleeding/but okay. Sink collapsed!
T. Lotsa university buildings constructed in the 1960s look like prisons.

KILL YOUR TELEVISION!
F. "Newlywed Game" husband televised response that the strangest place they
made love was "That'd be the butt, Bob."
T. Brian Gordon posted Bob Eubanks interview where Bob offers $10K for proof.
T. Dave Filippi posted similar account heard on Boston area radio (WBCN).
T. Many people claim to have seen it. Bill McCauley claims to have a tape.
T. Robert Huss claims to have seen it but says the common quote is "wrong."
T. Chris Johns claims to have seen Chuck Barris say it was true on CNBC.
F.*The UK cartoon series "Cpt. Pugwash" had character names w/double entendres.
T. Many people claim to have seen and heard these too. What a coincidence!
T. ...Gif of the Captain available at cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu.
T. Woman has epileptic seizures upon hearing Mary Hart's [ET anchor] voice.
F. "Gilligan's Island" was never a real TV show.
Tb.Parents get a video for children. Find it was recorded over old porn tape!
T. CA assembly considering a law to ban the splicing of porn onto rented tapes.
F. Johnny Carson said he'd pet Zsa Zsa's pussy if she'd move her cat.
F. JC said to Jack Nicklaus' wife that her kissing his balls before a golf game
must "make his putter flutter." (Sometimes about Arnold Palmer.)
F. JC gave out his AT&T card number for free calls since he won big settlement.
[Or Steve McQueen/Paul Newman/Sammy Davis,Jr/Robert Redford/Burt Reynolds.]
F. David Letterman tells audience to say "Hi" to Paul Shaffer 'cause his
contract says his butt can't be shown on TV.
[Above four from "Talk Show Tales - 'Dave's Behind' in CBA]
T. Charles Lasner still lives in the '60s and talks turkey.
F.*Kid tells Bozo the Clown to "shove it"/etc. after kid drops egg in game.
F.*Bozo interviews kids on show. One kid says "Cram it, clown!" Is removed.
F.*Some kid's talk show host says "That ought to shut the little bastards up!"
on live TV/radio. [Above three from 'Bozo the Clown's Blooper' in TMP]
T. Yes, yes, I've heard of Uncle Don and Kermit Schaeffer.
F.*Soupy Sales was canned for telling kids to send him pieces of paper with
pictures of dead presidents from their parents' dresser drawers on his show.
T.*He was suspended for a week.
F. Jan or Cindy Brady actress was a porn star.
F. Some muppet on Sesame Street is going to be snuffed.
Tb.Jeff Davis is a hit man for a Top 40 radio station.


REEFER MADNESS
[The alt.drugs FAQ list has lots of interesting info.]
F.*"Blue star" or cartoon character (esp. Mickey Mouse) tattoos laced with LSD
is sold at schools <Important!> to hook kids on acid.
T.*This UL is frequently spread via poorly typed/copied fliers.
T.*LSD has been sold on blotter paper with cartoon characters.
["Blue Star Acid" in CBA and "Mickey Mouse Acid" in TCD. See also Dave
Gross's definitive periodic posting.]
Fb.Person high on drugs stares at sun -- gets partial blindness.
T. Check in Medline in December 1992 shows no such case reported.
F. Aspirin and Coca-Cola taken together get you high. (Nope.May cause insomnia)
T. Phil Kernick thinks it does work on him, but that's Oz for you.
U. More than 4 hits of acid in one month renders you legally insane.
F. Tobacco cos. prepared to market/mfg joints if pot was legalized in '60s/'70s
T. You can beat any drug test (in a Zen way) by not taking the test.
U. Guy on pot pulled over by police. Asked if he knew his speed. Was 5 mph!
F. LSD accumulates in the brain and spinal column and shows up on x-rays.
Fb.McDonald's coffee stirrers changed; they were used by cocaine sniffers.
["Mickey Mouse Acid" in TCD]
F.*Banana peels and peanut shells contain hallucinogenic substances.
F.*"Street" acid (LSD) is frequently cut with strychnine.
U. D.M. Procida actually knew Adolf Hitler's grandmamma.


ASTONISHING ANTIPODEAN ANTICS
F. Some part of Australia is antipodal to some part of N. America or Europe.
T. Cane toads are now a plague, originally imported to eat cane beetles.
F. Koalas are always stoned/drunk, as they eat alcohol in eucalyptus leaves.
Fb.Koalas, being filled with eucalyptus oil, "explode" in bushfires. [Rats!]
F. Kangaroos deliver the mail in the outback.
U. "Goanna Oil" dissolves muscle protein. Goannas are large native lizards.
U. Driver fools tourists in Milford tunnel bus,says motorbike is oncoming train
U. Dingos eat babies. Australian courts say YES, NO, YES.
Fb.Aussies put vegemite under eyelids to get high. Yum!
T. Some New Zealanders do not think very highly of Australians.
T. There sure are lots of stories about Vegemite. [Why not Marmite?]
U. Derek "I really need to get a TV" Tearne and Hugh Grierson.'Nuff said!
F. Rights to "Waltzing Matilda" are owned by an American, hence not anthem.
T. "Chooks" taste like chicken.
T. Tasmanian devils are not extinct. Whoopee.


LEWD FOOD
T. There're kosher Chinese restaurants in and around big East Coast US cities.
T. Most mass-market beers contain "foaming agents" to make them form a head.
U. Eating lots of chicken fast food causes males to grow breasts (from hormones
T. Eggs and chicken are horribly contaminated, and should NOT be eaten raw.
T. Unless marked "dairy", fast food shakes aren't milk: mostly carrageen gel.
T. Lead leaches from lead crystal decanters into drinks; is not good for you.
F. Eating carrots may improve night vision, because of large amounts of Vit A.
Tb.Microwaved food is better (other cooking allegedly creates carcinogens)
Tb.Eating celery takes more energy than its digestion yields.
U. Mick Jagger used a Mars bar as a dildo on nubile pop loon Marianne Faithful.
F,T,T,U.Fast food places use unusual ingredients: worm, 'roo meat, seaweed, rat.
["'The Kentucky Fried Rat' and Other Nasties" in TVH]
F. Stranger at restaurant eats your cookies, you grab, later find you took his.
["The Packet of Biscuits" in TCD. Douglas Adams claims this really happened
to him. Also a variant w/Kit Kat bars.]
F.*Cook cheated into buying Mrs Fields' recipe, gets revenge by spreading it.
["The Mrs. Fields Cookie Recipe" in CBA. This is probably a descendant of
the "Red Velvet Cake" UL in TVH. Another version involves Nieman-Marcus
and many other noted retail establishments.]
F. Green M&M's ("Smarties" in UK; Canada has both) are an aphrodisiac.
F. Red M&M's are a carcinogen (Nope, they used red dye #5,not dangerous #2)
[Both M&M legends are in "Green M&Ms" in TMP]
F. Ingesting a tapeworm will help you slim, so people do this regularly
["'Bosom Serpent' Legends" in TCD.]
T. Many CIA (and other gov't) snackbars are staffed by blind people.
F. They're hired to help maintain secrecy.
F. Grape seeds can get caught in your appendix and give you appendicitis.
T. Steven Bellovin thinks diverticulitis may be source of this UL.
T. British army doses water with bromide (for purification), soldiers say it's.
U. ...to suppress soldiers' libidos. US Army salts their peters with saltpeter.
Fb.Kennedy family made their pile thru a Scotch import monopoly
Tb.Kennedy family made their pile thru smuggling Scotch during prohibition.
F. The red leaves of Poinsettias (aka the Xmas Plant) are deadly poisonous.
["The Poinsettia Myth" in TMP.]
T. Poinsettia sap and leaves are irritants and may harm small children.
T. People have been poisoned by eating food cooked on burning oleander branches
Tb.Asparagus stinks up pee, but ability to smell it is genetically inherited.
T. Fresh seeds from plants of rose family react to form cyanide in the body.
T. Lots of Asian restaurants have humorous names to English speakers.
F. Mikey (Life cereal) exploded from eating Pop Rocks with soda (You wish!)
["The Death of Little Mikey" in TCD]
F.*A popular Mexican beer (esp. Corona) was made with urine.
F.*Snapple supports Operations Rescue and/or the KKK.
F.*Tropical Fantasy causes sterility in black men.
T. Some people like to eat the placenta (aka afterbirth) of their children.
F. Shampoos and foreign beauty aids are made from aborted babies.
["The Secret Ingredient" in TMP]
F. Couple travels to exotic locale with pet dog. Eatery prepares it for them.
["Food and Restaurant Rumors and Legends"/"Unfortunate Pet Legends", TCD]
F. Ethnic eateries (Chinese/E. Indian/Italian) use cat/dog/human meat instead
of expected meat.["The Eaten Pets"/"Further Ethnic Stereotype Legends,"TMP]
F. Cantaloupes are infected with salmonella and are thus bad to eat.
F. Snake hidden in imported fruit (bananas, pineapple, etc.) bites/kills some-
one. ["The Snake in the Greens" in TBT]
T.*Woman removes label from "tuna" can, finds cat food label underneath.
T.*The cat food actually was tuna canned 6 years earlier in Canada, declared
unfit for human consumption, allowed to be exported as pet food, and then
illegally relabeled as tuna again. (Toronto Star, March 24, 1992)
Fb.In pre-revolutionary Paris, peasants resold food from restaurant garbage.
T. Vegemite (and Marmite) is made from yeast by-products, salt, and other stuff
Fb.Cannibalism was a common means of sustenance for past cultures.
F. "Instant" ramen noodles are coated w/wax and can cause intestinal blockage.
Fb.Drinking alcoholic beverages through a straw makes one drunker faster.
Tb.Carbonation in whisky and soda makes one drunk faster than a straight whisky
F. Marco Polo brought pasta back to Italy from the Chinese.
T. Spinach has no more iron than other vegetables; UL due to misplaced decimal.
F.*People eat chocolate because it gives them the same feeling as being in love
F. Chocolate makes people horny.
T. Some McDonald's do give free soft drink refills. There may not be signs tho.
F. Peeling labels off a beer bottle means you're: a) a virgin, b) gonna get
lucky, c) sexually frustrated.
F. Eating hot bread is bad for you (alcohol, stomach upset, etc.)
Tb.Don't use fresh/frozen pineapple, Kiwi fruit, or maggots to make Jell-O.
Tb.The Chinese characters for "Coca-cola" could sound like those for "bite the
wax tadpole."
Fb.The old Chevy Nova was a failure in Spanish speaking countries because it
translates to "No go."
Tb.Pepsi had a similar episode where "Come Alive with Pepsi!" is rendered as
"Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the dead!"
Tb.Certain Eng. documentaries notwithstanding, spaghetti doesn't grow on trees.
T. Some English beers contain fish guts.
F. The "Baby Ruth" candy bar was named for George "Babe" Ruth. Duh.
T. ...It was really named for US president Grover Cleveland's oldest daughter.
F. "Bubble Yum" bubble gum is manufactured with spiders eggs.
["The Kentucky Fried Rat" in TVH.]
T. There sure are lots of stories of food service people jacking off into food.
T. Most, if not all, are false though.
T. If you want to know what the "33" on Rolling Rock beer means. Read the
_Straight Dope_ books mentioned at the end of the FAQ list.
F. Eating ice will strip the enamel off your teeth or is somehow "bad" for you.


SNUFF MOVIES
Tb.The Feds, cops, CIA, etc. have never actually found a real snuff film.
T. Scotland Yard has found no evidence of snuff films in the last 20 years.
F. "Snuff films" actually exist (Nope, tho' there are various wannabe fakes)
T. Some psychotics have taped the murder of their victims.
T. Search in WestLaw in 1991 showed no mention of cases on "snuff films".
F.*"Faces of Death" is a snuff film. [See Larry Doering plot summary.]
F. "Snuff" was the name of a real snuff film.
T. We never saw a snuff film that we didn't like.
T. Dean Lambey in California was arrested in 1989 by an undercover officer
and tried and convicted while planning to make a snuff film. Conviction
was upheld by a federal appeals court in 1992 in Richmond, VA.
Tb.There were at least two different endings to "Old Yeller".

By definition, a snuff film is one in which the film is the *purpose* of
(rather than incidental to) the murder and with some intent of commercial
distribution (i.e. if they ran out of film, the murder would be postponed
until someone could run down to the 7-11 & get more). Paul Lanning, the
FBI's chief researcher into child pornography was quoted by _The Times_
of London:

"In 20 years I have not seen any hard evidence that they have
commercially produced sexually explicit films of murders for the
gratification of other people. Simulated snuff movies using
special effects are so realistic there is no point in risking life
in jail."

Note to the new reader: please don't send or post e-mail saying "snuff movies
*could* exist, because people are naughty enough" - this is not in dispute;
the point is that no examples have yet come to light. Until someone shows
evidence of their existence, snuff films are in the same category as UFO's,
the Loch Ness monster, and Bruce Willis's hair -- i.e. "believed false."


UPSTANDING LEGENDS OF THE PENIS AND SCROTUM
F. Model's dick showed in a Sears catalog ad for shorts (it was drawstring!)
T. But it looked a little like the model's wiener, and folks thought it was.
T. Nelson Rockefeller died of cardiac arrest while porking the help.
U. Errol Flynn banged out "Star-spangled Banner" on xylophone with his big dong
F. Gangster John Dillinger's long wang is pickled in a jar at/near Smithsonian.
F. In Nigeria, roving gangs of thieves may surreptitiously steal mens' dorks.
T. Groupies took plaster casts of pop singers' schlongs, inc Hendrix's whacker.
Tb.Adolf Hitler only had one testicle. Immortalized in many a kid's rhyme.
T. Masturbator's penis in hose chopped by fan blade of Hoover Dustette cleaner.
T. This is dubbed the legend of "the Cleaner and the Leaner Wiener".
U. Woman slits guy's scrotum, sticks straw in, and blows; he gets off on it...
F. Child in mall goes to toilet; is abducted; has willie cut off. [TCD]
F. Drunk joyriding on hood of car, loses parts to hood ornament at sudden stop.
F. Wife seduces cheating husband then superglues his plonker while he sleeps.
["The Superglue Revenge" in TCD]
T. Guy hurts self after sex w/machine drive belt, has self surgery w/stapler.
Fb.Health worker in US/Africa demos condom usage to immigrants/natives w/a
broom/finger. Woman returns pregnant. She had used EXACTLY as taught.
U. Napoleon's wanker was cut off at autopsy and was recently auctioned off.
F. Number of stars on _Playboy_ cover is # of times Hef banged the centerfold.
T. ...It's a distribution code.
T. Public boners are banned in Indiana. Law upheld by US Supreme Court.
T. Couple on UK train had oral sex, then sex, then smoked in non-smoking area,
F. ...nobody complained until they started smoking;
T. ...train crew ignored complaints until couple started smoking.
F. Young man is at dinner party w/future in-laws. His fiance says his zipper
...is unzipped. He attempts to distract them by pointing out the window
...and calling out "Look at that!" Where 2 dogs are doing the nasty, or
...he slyly zips up his fly, but when he gets up, drags the table cloth off
...'cause he trapped the cloth in his fly! ["Nudes and More Nudes" in TVH]
F. Woman reports to emergency room and sez diaphram is stuck. Drs. remove it
to find it's covered with grape jelly. Directions said to "...use w/jelly."

HIDE THE SALAMI
U. Cuckolded husband replaces contents of wife's pessaries with lye.
T. Mad doctor in Ohio cut off womens' clitoral hoods while operating on them.
T. People put assorted objects up their asses, get stuck, removed in hospital.
F. Well-known film star et al. put a gerbil up his ass for "wriggly furry fun"
["The Colo-Rectal Mouse" in TMP. Related entries in LEGAL BEAGLES]
T. Search of Medline in December 1993 using key words "anus, rectum, rodent,
gerbil" showed no such incident ever found. Lots of other stuff though.
F. Well-known male pop star rushed from concert, stomach pumped free of semen.
[Said of Elton John, Rod Stewart, David Lee Roth, and Marc Almond.]
F. Spanish fly (Cantharides) is aphrodisiac (actually genital tract irritant).
F. Girl slipped spanish fly at drive-in movie; found impaled on gear shift.
["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" in TCD]
F. Woman tied naked to bed, man in superhero costume with broken leg in closet.
T. ...Similar motif in Stephen King's novel _Gerald's Game_.
Fb.Hetero couple get stuck together while coupling. Separated at hospital.
["The Stuck Couple" in TCD]
F. One night stand, partner leaves early, other partner finds msg "Welcome to
the world of AIDS". ["AIDS Mary" in CBA]
Fb.Female gang initiation ceremony is to screw an HIV+ male member.
F. ...Gang members drive around with headlights off at night and will shoot
people who flash headlights at them.
T. There seem to be quite a few warnings about fatal gang initiations lately.
[e.g., flashing headlights, clothing, etc.]
T. Not surprisingly, other ULs (e.g., "Killer in the Backseat", ankle tendon
slashers, etc.) have emerged with "gang initiation" motifs.
F. Student is regularly nocturnally chloroformed by roommate, for sodomy.
Tb....This may have actually happened in the Dutch army. Those officers!
F. `Baghdad Betty' told US army that Bart Simpson was sleeping with their wives
Tb.Would-be rapist steals kisses; one Calif victim bit a piece off his tongue.
F. Man fills wife's lover's convertible with concrete.
["The Solid Cement Cadillac" in TVH]
T. Woman's womb filled with air during cunnilingus; she dies due to embolism.
F. Woman impregnated while swimming, due to sperm loose in pool.
F. Woman impregnated when hit by bullet that shot Civil War soldier's testicles
["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" in TCD]
Tb.Unintentional virgin birth happens occasionally in bizarre circumstances.
Tb.E.g. vagina-less woman,fellates lover, stabbed in gut by boyfriend,pregnant!
F. Silicone breasts expand under low pressure (eg. airline stewardesses on job)
U. Mother threatens to discipline kid;kid threatens to squeal on mom's fellatio.
F. Husband informed that septic tank/toilet blockage due to too many condoms;
but he doesn't use them; confronts wife, she confesses affair w/milkman.
He waits and shoots milkman next day; but it was a substitute milkman!
["The Evidence" in TMP]
F. Couple goes to "love" hotel w/hot tub, mirrors, etc. Make the sign of the
eight legged aardvark. Upon return, call up an X-movie and see themselves!
["Sex Scandals" in TCD]
F. There was a significant increase in NYC births ~9 months after 1965 Blackout
Tb.A town in Oregon banned all sex.
Tb.Rimming (oral/anal contact) is legal in Utah.
F. Catherine the Great died while trying to have something to do with a horse.
Fb....Mr. Ed was descended from that horse.
F. For some reason, a woman is doing the laundry in the nude. She puts on her
son's football helmet, and is surpised by plumber/gas man who says some-
thing like "I hope your team wins, lady." ["Nudes and More Nudes" in TVH]
F. Some subdenomination of Jews have sex through a sheet. (See soc.culture.
jewish FAQ).


DISNEY DEMENTIA [AND OTHER AMUSEMENT PARK STORIES]
T. Disney parks are riddled with secret tunnels and surveillance equipment.
T.*"Little Mermaid" video cover features good drawing of penis. Prank? Revenge?
T. There is a basketball hoop at the top of the Matterhorn replica.
T. Male Disneyites may not grow beards (& many other petty rules for women too)
T. There is a secret "Club 33" serving hard liquor,in New Orleans Sq,Disneyland
T. Clerics in their robes are admitted to Disneyland at concessionary rates.
T. Wheelchairs & 1 attendant go to the front of the line for rides.
Tb.Disney ripped off Orlando county, thru grabbing Federal road funds
T. Woman alleges clit-tickling by one third of 3 Little Pigs; case thrown out
F. Three little pigs clit-tickled law-suit happy babe, with non-mobile arms.
F. Child disappears from Disneyland, found with new haircut, dyed by abductor.
T. SF writer Harlan Ellison fired from Dismall Studios after Mickey porn joke.
F. Old Walt Disney's dead body was frozen for later revivification.
F. Child goes for ride on popular ride; feels bites; dies from snake bites!
F. Water in "Tunnel of Love" ride infested with snakes. [Both in "Death in
the Funhouse" in _CBA_.Stephanie da Silva says this really happened to her.]
T. Disney caused people to believe that Lemmings suicide in march to sea.
Tb.snopes: MIA.


QUESTION AUTHORITY (AND OTHER CONSPIRACIES)
U. CIA fixed the Anarchist's Cookbook, so explosive blows up as you make it.
T. You may *own* the mailbox, but US Postal Service controls what goes in it.
T. The CIA, NSA and 11 different secret govt organizations tap & bug everything
T. Princess Anne was only female competitor not given sex test in 1976 Olympics
F. Guy/gal wakes up in Big City, a kidney has been stolen from him!
U. The circle "K" on Snapple signifies approval by Kibo.
Tb.Hubbard started Scientology after Heinlein bet he couldn't found a religion.
T. alt.religion.scientology FAQ sez "F," but I haven't been converted yet.
F. P&G's logo reflects Satanic or Moonie ties.
["The Proctor & Gamble Trademark" in TCD]
F. On "Oprah" designer Liz Clairborne said her clothes were not designed for
black women because their "hips were too big".
F. On "Oprah" designer Liz Clairborne said she supports the KKK.
Tb.Candy manufacturers sneakily micro-reduce size of product to gyp you.
F. Universal Product Codes (computer readable bar-codes) are marks of Satan.
P. VP Bush persuaded Iranians to delay hostage release to aid Reagan election.
U. Govt has secret plan to replace the currency overnight to foil drug barons.
Tb.CIA radio transmits spoken five digit code numbers to operatives worldwide
T. You can send a coconut thru the mail without any further wrapping. Yowser!
F. Sticking one of those "Postage Paid" reply cards on a heavy object (e.g.,
a brick) will cost the addressee the postage. [Nope, USPS tosses it.]
T. Some change-making machines can be fooled by photocopies of currency.
T. The NSA shortened the key length on DES.
U. The NSA shortened the key length on DES so they could crack everyone's codes
T. The NIST is proposing a less secure digital signature standard than RSA...
U. because the NSA asked them to, so they could crack everyone's codes.
F. Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns Entenmann's bakery
F. Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns Waldenbooks.
Tb.Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns a fish processing plant in
Gloucester, Massachusetts.
U. Those guys selling roses on roads are connected with the Moonies.
T. Entenmann's owned by General Foods, Philip Morris bought, merged w/ Kraft.
F.*Ship captains, on their own authority, can perform marriages.
F. Govt cabbage price memo lots longer than var. patriotic/religious documents.
["The Price of Cabbage Memo" under "Government Legends" in TCD.]
F. Govt regularly burns WWII-era hemp fields. Only high officials know where.
F. If you are the first to read this and send me e-mail, you will receive $10.
Fb.Class requests satellite imaging photo; US says "no";(then) USSR says "yes".
F. Compensation paid to kin of Salem witches up to 1957 (per _The Economist_).
F. Alleged witches were burned at the stake in the US during the Salem trials.
T. Alleged witches were hanged or pressed to death.
T. Mass. recanted the Salem trials and freed the witches within a few years
T. Name of last alleged witch was cleared in 1957.
Tb.Whole business is extraordinarily similar to modern accusations of Satanism.
T. Crop circles (at least in the UK) have been shown to be man-made.
T.*Mapmakers place copyright traps in maps (Rand-McNally, no. Thomas Maps, yes)
U. Several noted movies have "death curses" on them.
Fb.Major firms/gov't suppress evidence of a super great product(car,light,etc.)
["The Economical Car" in TVH and CBA]
T. The USA did have a 49 star flag.
Tb.There really is a place called "Wyoming."
F. Some 1963 $1 bills have a 'K' for JFK, 11 for month of death to commemorate
JFK. ["The Kennedy Note" in TMP]
T. Channel 1 for TV existed in the US, but was eliminated by the FCC in 1945.
U. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
F. An undercover cop must answer yes to "Are you a cop?" to avoid entrapment.
Fb.Guy dodges draft by eating peanut butter/hotdog from rectum in front of MD.
F. There was once a female Pope in the Roman Catholic Church.
F.*Noted atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair is petitioning the FCC to ban religious
broadcasting.
Fb.U.S. Patent Office head once said that it be closed because "Everything that
can be invented has been invented."
F. It's illegal to pick Trilliums in Ontario, Canada.
U. Lots of places are supposedly either 3rd or 22nd to be bombed in WWIII.
F. Ads for "free pets" are frequently answered by testing labs for specimens.
T. Gerald Ford did have a vice president(who is mentioned elsewhere in the FAQ)
T. Bank policies on ATMs work differently in different areas.
F. The king of Denmark wore a yellow star in solidarity with Jews in WWII.
T. There were (are?) Japanese soldiers hiding out on isles in Pacific who
believed WWII was still on.
F. The Trilateral Commission is working to take over the world.
F. Ditto for the Council on Foreign Relations.
F. Queen Victoria so loved _Alice in Wonderland_ she requested copies of all
Lewis Carroll's books. Was ticked with copy of _Symbolic Logic_.
F. You can tell if a big op. is happening at US gov't by level of pizza orders.
T. Craig Becker once went nuts and bought a whole shitload of Jack Chick comix.
T. Canadians sure seem to get worked up about this "50-40" business.
Tb.Larry Doering appreciates Stalinist humor.
T. People can just ramble on about Jehovah's Witnesses & getting rid of 'em.
U. Joel Furr spends about 89.4% of his time organizing AFU and AFL events.
T. AFU WEST I was on 2 July 1991.
T. AFU WEST ][ was on 12 December 1991.
T. AFU WEST ]|[ was in Mountain View on Craig's b-day in 1992.
T. AFU WEST IV - TERRY was on 28 October 1992.
T. AFU WEST V was on 20 February 1993.
T. AFU WEST VI was on 19 June 1993.
T. AFU/alt.fan.lemurs SOUTHEAST was held on 27 March 1993.
T. There was an AFU South in May, 1992 with 2 people.
Tb.AFU Toronto is scheduled for 18 September 1993 in the Cold Frozen North.
T. AFUBOT.
F. Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science) was buried w/a phone so she could
her followers from "The Other Side."
U. There may or may not have been an AFU EAST. I need $$ to find out.


LEGAL BEAGLES [See also WILD LIFE, STUPID PEOPLE TRICKS, and SNUFF]
F. Guy trims hedges with lawnmower but trims own extremities; sues; wins big!
["The Lawnmower Accident", TMP,"Media Sources and Business Legends" in TCD]
T. Check in various legal databases shows no such case appealed.
Tb.Some people think researching the most trivial legal point is great fun.
F. There are legal limits on how much of your debts you can pay in coins (US).
T. Woman sued drink co.; she was blinded by bottle cap after opening w/pliers.
F. The US has 70% of world's lawyers.
U. U.S. Supreme Court ruled that "professional wrestling" was entertainment,
not sport.
T. Gerbils are illegal in California.[CA Reg. Title 14, Sec. 671 (c)(2)(J) 1].
Tb.Gerbils are trained to sniff drugs in Canada. Those Canadians!
F. You must be hit thrice before retaliation can be construed as self-defense.
Fb.Hackers couldn't be convicted because system had "Welcome to X system" msg.
...therefore systems now have strict disclaimers on usage.


WILD LIFE IN THE FAST LANE
Fb.Schoolkid beheaded by road sign,due to sticking his head out the bus window.
Tb.Oregon Highway Div blows up eight ton dead whale, showers town with blubber.
Fb.Gas (petrol) engines pollute the same as diesel; diesel just smells worse.
Tb.Diesel engines emit more unburnt hydrocarbons than gas ones w/catalytic conv
Ft.Power windows in cars trap kids' limbs, necks. Kill or maim them.
T. A 2 yr-old girl was killed by a power window in a Fiat in the UK in May 1992
F. Stop signs with a white border are optional. (Oh, I don't think so...)
F. Leaving car radio on when the ignition switch is off will drain battery.
[Exc. VWs, etc. where the radio is not switched thru the ignition switch.]
Tb.Airbag in car can give you a chemical burn when it deploys.
U. Driver sets cruise control, wrongly believes it steers too! Crashes...
["'Cruise Control' Stories" in TCD.]
Tb.Tree-lined French avenue triggers epileptic fits by flickering light at 11Hz
F. The VW Beetle was designed by Hitler.
Fb.New car rattles -- note found in door frame from factory saboteur...
["The Rattle in the Cadillac" in TCD.Classic UL always involves a luxury car
T. Montana & Wyoming have a token $5 fine for exceeding Federal 55mph limit.
T. Mongo-power engine installed in weenie-looking car. Blows off Corvettes.
T. John Somebody-or-other built car called "the Beast" with 27lt Spitfire engine
T. It eventually took off, and self-destructed on the A27 outside Brighton.
T. Special equipment can transmit any reading you want to police radar gun.
T. There are traffic lights with green on top in a few US Irish neighborhoods.
T. You can be guilty of DUI on a bicycle, horse, perambulator, etc most places.
T. Guy in Los Alamos labs fitted a jet engine to Honda Civic, ran on salt flats.
U. Person fitted rocket/JATO unit to car, embedded in rockface at first bend.
Fb.Man working on roof ropes himself to car on other side;wife drives off.Splat.
T. The "man on roof" appeared on a home video show in UK. Believed to be staged.
F. Hitchhiker disappears, is ghost of person killed years ago in road accident.
["The Vanishing Hitchhiker" in TVH and TMP]
F. Valuable classic car sold for pittance by (1) grieving parents of war dead
F,U(2) spouse of errant husband (3) heirs of person who died and rotted in it.
Fb.(4) sold by widow who would receive either car or proceeds of its sale.
["The Death Car" and "The Philanderer's Porsche" in TVH. "The Bargain
Sports Car" in CBA]
F. Psycho's handhook hanging from the car door, broken off as couple drove away
["The Hook" in TVH]
F. Carthief squashed dead in stolen BMW by collapsing freeway in '89 SF quake
F. Driving barefoot is illegal most places (Nope, but it's dumb to goad cops)
T. Driving barefoot is illegal in the state of Kentucky.
T. New York car thief stole lab delivery of cadaver heads...
U. Red sports cars generate disproportionate number of speeding tickets.
F. Man crashes into toll booth while receiving fellatio from girlfriend.
Fb.Flashing your headlights will cause a traffic light to change faster.
T. It's really no big deal that there are towns named "Intercourse" and
"Blue Ball" in Pennsylvania. Post it to misc.misc if you can't resist.
Tb.There are some lights w/sensors for emergency vehicles.
Tb.There're lots folk remedies to plug up old radiators: cigarettes, pepper.
T. Lots of places have weird street names.
T. You can find lots of weird msgs on license plates if you try really hard.
T. "SIGAlerts" in the greater LA area are named for a guy named Loyd Sigmon.
F. Couple's car out of gas; he gets help; she hears noise, then cops arrive;
tell her to leave & not look back; she does, sees him hanging or
decapitated. ["The Boyfriend's Death" in TVH]
F. Guy tries to siphon gas from an RV but instead siphons from the septic tank;
found unconscious by RV next morning.
Tb."Maintenance-Free" batteries were invented for cheaper transport of new cars
F. Police officer pulls over female driver. She asks about tickets to a
policemen's ball, he replies "Policemen don't have balls" and he leaves
flustered (or she is totally embarassed). ["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" TCD]
Fb.Woman gets in her car at night; is followed on the way home; calls for help;
husband accosts the guy; guy was trying to warn woman of thug in backseat of
her car. ["The Killer in the Back Seat", TVH]
Fb.Parking spot taken from older woman by two younger women. They tell her
"Sorry we're younger and faster." Woman reflects, rams their car, and
replies "I'm older and richer". [Several variations on the repartee.]
["Old vs. Young" in TMP and also used in the film "Fried Green Tomatoes".]
F. A motorcyclist at high speed hits a fly which goes to his brain via his eye.
F. An auto worker steals parts of a Caddy bit by bit until he has a whole car.
U. Fancy car has "No Radio" sign. Owner returns to broken windshield and "No
Windshield"/"Get One" or "Just Checking" sign.
Fb.Truck gets stuck at low bridge. Noone knows what to do; a young kid suggests
letting the air out of the tires.
U. UK people drive on the left (etc) to allow easy sword access in old days.
F. Someone never gets tickets because his license plates say "NONE".
Tb.Freon can be used to break Kryptonite locks.
F. In great desperation, mother lifts car off and rescues trapped child.
F. Woman picks up elderly woman hitchhiker; sees that HH has hairy arms; gets
HH out on pretense;takes off;later finds cleaver/hatchet/knife in seat.
["The Hairy Armed Hitchhiker" in TCD.]
F. Couple w/baby on long trip stops to switch places; place baby on roof; they
forget it up there! Police cruiser pull them over and baby is rescued.
["The Baby on the Roof" in TCD.]
F. Grandma dies on long family trip; they strap body to roof; car is stolen!
["The Runaway Grandmother" in TVH.]
T. "The Club" is lame because a thief could cut through the wheel in no time.
T. You sure gets lots of junk when you ask about US highway numbering schemes.
T. Not many threads are dumber than [non]funny place and street names...
...except for "names in phonebooks."
Fb.Rolls-Royce will go to great extremes to fix problems and deny that there
were any problems to protect their image.

LEGENDS ABOUT NATATORY CAPABILITIES OF LARGE ANTHROPOID PRIMATES
Tb.Gorillas can't swim.
T. Certain tribes of Japanese macaques sift their grain in the sea.
Fb.Many simians hold regular swimming contests; winners mate w/ choice females.
Tb....Losers go on either "The Love Connection."
T. Some monkeys prefer not to swim at all; will drown if dropped in water.
P. Chimpanzee muscles are formed in a way that renders backstroke impossible.
T. "Baywatch" proves that apes share at least 95% of DNA with humans.
T. Lee "Cow Pie King" Rudolph is the 100th lemur.


ASTOUNDING AVIAN ANOMALIES
F. Birds cannot sing while on the ground.
Tb.Govt forces commercial birdseed to be irradiated to stop hemp seed sprouting
T. Radar emissions can kill birds, sterilize sailors, fry other small mammals.
T. Chickens are easily mesmerized. Whoopee.
F. Sprinkle salt on a bird's tail to catch it by preventing it flying away.
T. If the bird let you get close enough to salt its tail, you could grab it.
F. Seagulls (and other creatures) explode when you feed them Alka-Seltzer or
rice, or "pop-rocks" - dried coconuts?.["The Death of Little Mikey" in TCD].
F. Birds won't sit on their nests if you touch one of their eggs.
F. The resonance frequency of a chicken's skull cavity is ~7 Hz.
Tb.Some birds get drunk by eating partly fermented berries/fruits.


DOGGIE-STYLE and CATTY-WUMPUSS [See also LEWD FOOD]
F. Dalmatians and humans are the only mammals whose urine contain urea.
Tb.Dalmatians and humans are the only mammals who cannot break down
uric acid into its soluble form, "allantoin."
U. Old/ditzy woman puts dog in microwave to dry it out- it dies gruesome
death/lives to bark again. ["The Pet (or Baby) in the Oven" and "Hot Dog"
in TVH. Also "I Read It in the Paper" in TCD.]
T. Cruel people and other weirdos will microwave pets. This is not a surprise.
T. A Baltimore lawyer was busted for microwaving a kitten in January 1992.
F. A Doberman chokes on fingers that it bit off burglar hidden in closet.
["The Choking Doberman" in, surprise! TCD and TMP]
F. Plastic/glass water bottles on lawn prevent dogs urinating in the area.
["Lawn Order in New Zealand (and elsewhere)" in CBA]
F. The scent of wolf dung terrifies dogs, so disposal by zoos is regulated.
T. Radioactive cat litter found in May 1991 in Berkeley, Calif
U. Source of the litter was radioactive cat food? Cat on radiation therapy?
F. Days-old body in home discovered headless. Was eaten by dog!
T. Cats can carry a parasite (toxoplasmosis) which is esp.dangerous to fetuses.
Tb.Aspirin is very bad for cats (slow removal of salicyates from their bodies).
Tb.Dog gets shock from phone line, urinates, phone rings!
F. Woman's cat dies. She puts it in a shopping bag/box to take it to the
country for burial. On the way, she stops at a store and puts the bag
down. She turns around and bag is shoplifted. ["The Dead Cat in the
Package" in TVH. There's an amusing ending in one of the stories.]
T. Many variations on above with urine samples in bottles and bags of garbage.
Tb.In WW2, Russians fed dogs under tanks, then released them in battle with
anti-tank explosives having an antenna-like trigger on their backs.
Tb.Dogs ran under wrong ones, German tanks didn't smell like Russian tanks.
T. Most Russian tanks were diesel, most German ones weren't.
T. German high command counters by spreading rabies rumors, encouraging
soldiers to shoot every dog they see.
F. Firemen rescue old lady's cat from tree. She invites them for tea. They run
over cat when they leave. ["The Bungled Rescue of the Cat" in CBA]

OTHER ANIMAL (BUT NON-BUGGY) CRACKERS
U. Every animal has enough brains in its head to preserve its own hide.
F. Dead rabbit next door dug up by dog;washed, put in cage by frantic dogowner.
["The Hare Drier" in CBA.]
F. Killer whales will attack swimming dogs because they stink like hell.
F. Fox frees itself of fleas by gradual immersion, shifting fleas to lintball.
Fb.Driver runs over exotic animal,wraps in coat for fun photo;it revives, runs
off! Similar story: A hunter poses for picture w/deer w/rifle in antlers.
Fb.Farmer asks hunter to shoot mule; other hunter shoots another mule too.
T. Armadillos can contract leprosy.
Tb.Armadillos can spread leprosy to humans.
Tb.Cow-tipping (pushing over a sleeping cow) has happened.
Tb.Cow-tipping is usually just a bunch of hooey to beguile city kids.
Tb.Candiru fish, native to S. America, can swim into your urethra.
T. Fainting goats are real. Crimony!
T. Galapagos turtles do moan and groan during copulation.
F. Guinea pigs' eyes fall out if you hold them up by their tails.
T. Guinea pigs actually *do* have small stumpy vestigial tails. Take a look!
Fb.Horse falls thru bottom of moving trailer, legs ground to stumps.
Fb.Otter, newly-released after $50K Valdez clean-up, is eaten by whale.
T. Rats cannot vomit (the basis for many rat poisons).
F.*There are [albino] alligators inhabiting the sewers of New York City. [TVH]
T. There sure seem to be lots of stories about pigeons.
T. Sewer rats can come into the house and bite one's behind while on the potty.
U. Litter from released balloons choke and kill whales, birds, etc.
F. [Domesticated] turkeys are so dumb,they'll drown if they're out in the rain.
Fb.Trapper ties dynamite to coyote, releases; coyote runs under his car/house.
["The Coyote's Revenge" in TCD. Similar ULs with rabbits, raccoons, fish,
etc. exist and are traced back to an old motif involving a cat in TMP]
F. Woman found a rat in Mexico and brought it home thinking it was a dog.
["The Mexican Pet" in, surprise! TMP]
F. Baby elephant escapes from circus; sits on VW;front/roof dented;later police
stop owner and ask what happened? ["The Elephant that Sat on a VW" in TCD.]
T. Rachel Perkins has seen blow-up sheep dolls.


LET'S NOT GO FISHING!
T. The etymology of "POSH."
T. Someone has made three-sided record.
T. Anything to do with "Star Trek."
T. Austria/Australia, wherever those equatorial countries are.


ARTHROPOD CRACKERS
T. Really big insects (snakes too) can get imported along with fruit shipments.
F. Bugs congregate in the pointy ends of bananas, so discard before eating.
F. Dragonflies ("darning needles") can sting you very severely.
T. Only hymenopterans sting. A large dragonfly may be strong enough to pinch.
F. If a dragonfly or a ladybug lands on you, you will have good luck.
T. "Killer" African bees are swarming into Texas from down South.
T. A lot of people have found live or dead insects in their fast food snacks.
T. Cockroaches love coffee, live in TV's, too often get in your cup or food.
T. Insect lays eggs in open wound; months later baby insects eat their way out.
Variation: Woman gets bitten, after insects out, she dies/has breakdown.
["The Spider Bite" in TMP]
F. Cactus shakes, then explodes with hundreds of scorpions/spiders.
["Spiders in the Yucca" in TMP]
F. Explorer gets bug in ear; bug eats thru to other ear; gave birth on way...
[Various ULs of this type under "A Bug in the Ear" in _CBA_]
F. A woman w/beehive hairdo is so proud of it she doesn't wash her hair; she
dies from bees/spiders in it.
["The Spider in the Hairdo" in TVH]
Fb.Lobsters,dropped in boiling water, scream.(Nah, it's steam from under shell)
Fb.Moth/butterfly scales from wings will poison or blind you.
Fb.There are US state laws making it illegal to kill/capture praying mantises.
T. The bite of the Brown Recluse spider is nasty.


SOME REFERENCES:

Cecil Adams (_The Straight Dope_, 1984, ISBN 0-345-33315-2 and_More of the
Straight Dope_, 1988, ISBN 0-345-35145-2 both published by Ballantine
Books). Author of "The Straight Dope" Q&A column of _The Chicago
Reader_ and is syndicated in many alternative newspapers. Cecil is "a
National Treasure" who "tells people what they actually want and need
to know instead of useless rubbish." Worth reading if only for for his
writing style. Contrary to what you may read on a.f.u., he is not
related to Marilyn vos Savant but he might be Monty Hall. Another one
is due in 1994. You can e-mail his editor, Ed Zotti, at
ezo...@merle.acns.nwu.edu

Jan Harold Brunvand (_The Vanishing Hitchhiker_, 1981, ISBN 0-393-95169-3;
_The Choking Doberman_, 1984, ISBN 0-393-30321-7; _The Mexican Pet_,
1986, ISBN 0-393-30542-2; _Curses! Broiled Again_, 1989,
ISBN 0-393-30711-5, _The Baby Train_, 1993, ISBN 0-393-03438-0; _The
Study of American Folklore_, 3rd Ed., 1986, all published by W.W.
Norton); _Folklore: A Study and Research Guide_, 1976, St. Martin's
(out of print). JHB is one of the leading folklorists today and has
done much to popularize the study of ULs. Also has a great back hand
and skis a mean "figure 11."

Alfie Kohn, _You Know What They Say...The Truth About Popular Beliefs_,
1990, ISBN 0-06-092115-3, Harper. Pretty good book with, get this,
*references* to stuff in the back. This is a good habit which some
of you folks may want to try sometime....

G. & C. Merriam Co., _Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary_, 1977, ISBN
0-87779-348-4. Great bedside reading. Check it out sometime.
There's also the OED, but Bruce Tindall will probably take care of
that.

William Poundstone (_Big Secrets_, 1983, Morrow and _Bigger Secrets_, 1986,
Houghton-Mifflin). Sorry, it's a secret. [Graham Toal sez these books
may be ordered from Blackwells in Oxford.] Peter Trei says the stuff
on Masons is total BS, but then, he WOULD say that.

Bruce Tindall and Mark Watson (_Did Mohawks Wear Mohawks?_ _And Other
Wonders, Plunders, and Blunders_, Quill - William and Morrow, 1991.
ISBN 0-688-09859-2.) S'all right, and only one wrong entry so far.
Just don't believe what they say about dalmatians, humans, and urea.
You can even e-mail Bruce on the net at Bruce....@lambada.oit.unc.edu
to blast 'im. Part II is coming out in approximately Fall, 1994.

Peter van der Linden (_The Official Handbook of Practical Jokes_ Signet,
ISBN 0-451-15873-3, 1989 and _The Second Official Handbook of Practical
Jokes_, 1991, Signet, ISBN 0-451-16924-7). Do you want to get the scoop
on practical jokes that actually have some real world validity rather
than those by prepubescent college kids on bad banana peels? Try
checking these two bricks^H^H^H^H^H^H books out. You'll find ULs,
delightfully bad illustrations, and even practical jokes. $3.50. Cheap!
God, would you believe that even Peter has another book coming out?
What's this world coming too?

===============================================================================

An urban legend:
* appears mysteriously and spreads spontaneously in varying forms
* contains elements of humor or horror (the horror often "punishes"
someone who flouts society's conventions).
* makes good storytelling.
* does NOT have to be false, although most are. ULs often have a basis
in fact, but it's their life after-the-fact (particularly in reference
to the second and third points) that gives them particular interest.

===============================================================================
Unbounded thanks to: Jane Beckman, Steven Bellovin, Conrad Black, Mark Brader,
Jack Campin, Raymond Chen, Joe Chew, Patrick S Clark, Cathi A.Cook, Cindy
Davies, Glenn Davis, Jeff Davis, Ray Depew, Scott Deerwester, Larry Doering,
all the Terry's: Carroll, Chan, Monks, Wood, et al., David Esan, Ted Frank,
Greg Franklin, Alan Frisbie, Joel Furr, Kim Greer, Tom Greer, Dave Gross,
Phil Gustafson, Jason R. Heimbaugh, David A. Honigs, David B. Horvath,
Wendy Foran Howard, Mark Israel, Richard Joltes, Jim Jones, Cynthia Kandolf,
Diane Kelly, Phil Kernick, Andrew Lewis, Susan Mudgett, Bill Nelson, Tom
Neff, Bob O'Brien, Jonathan Papai, Christophe Pettus, Saki, G. Paul Savage,
Brian Scearce, Sean Smith, Randal Schwartz, Ken Shirriff, snopes, Haakon
Styri, Bruce Tindall, Dwight Tovey, Peter van der Linden, Greg Widdicombe,
and Dan Wright.

OTHERS?

Have you ever wondered how those people have gotten the name at the end
of the FAQ list? They are people who are widely recognized as thoughtful
posters of reliable information. They have consistently added value to
various debates by sharing their point of view, and often researching
difficult questions which arise on the net, and posting authoritative facts
citing sources.

The official way for joining the list of distinguished AFU-ers is to
take one of these unanswered questions that come now and then, research
it and reach a definitive conclusion (or demonstrate that one cannot be
found). Post your findings. If the report is sound, and the original
question was non-trivial, you will be added to the acknowledgements section
of the FAQ list! Be prepared to submit references. We are mostly adults
here (except around the beginning of the academic year). Be prepared to
discuss and debate your research and conclusions here. The unofficial way
to get on the list is to give me a big payoff (and it better be more than
two-fifty).


Original FAQ list by Peter van der Linden, February, 1991.
Maintained by Terry Chan since July, 1991.
Mildly tinkered with in a few trivial ways, PvdL, December 9, 1991
Masterfully improved formating courtesy of Tom Neff, December 16, 1991.
Posting to news.answers finished off by Phil "Dr. Hip" Gustafson.
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Sarah Skovronsky

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Ender Wiggin

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twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>1 January 1994
> Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends
(...)

>Key to one liners below:
> F = 100% falsehood
(...)
>THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
(...)

>F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
>T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.

I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)

"In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
direction. Then we, (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)

This journey was filmed by a joint BBC/A&E crew, so perhaps there
is actual footage of this aried somewhere.
Comments anyone?

David DeLaney

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mwhe...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ender Wiggin) writes:
>twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>>1 January 1994
>> Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends
>>Key to one liners below:
>> F = 100% falsehood
>>THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE

>>F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
>>T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.
> I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
>by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
>journey from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East

>Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)
> "In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
>the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
>Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
>Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
>Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
>the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
>floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
>direction. Then we (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
>Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
>we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
>On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)

(this took up four pages??)

> This journey was filmed by a joint BBC/A&E crew, so perhaps there

>is actual footage of this aired somewhere.
> Comments anyone?

... Michael *Palin*? Filmed by the *BBC*? BWAAAAhahaha! Ender, get back to
your wargames, but before you go, write out 100 times "Coriolis force =
-2m omega z-hat cross r-dot_{rotating}"...

Dave "ambitious for a first-time troller, *aren't* we?" DeLaney
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Thinking about this disclaimer (or about high energy theoretical particle __
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Cynthia Kandolf

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Ender Wiggin (??) writes:
>>F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to
Coriolis.
>>T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to
isolate it.
>
> I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
>by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
>journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
>Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)
>
>[stuff about watching this "happen" using a stick and plastic bucket
>deleted]
>
> Comments anyone?

Yes. Michael Palin and the group of American tourists he watched this
"demonstration" with were gullible.

We used to live in an apartment where the bathroom sink and the
kitchen sink - located maybe ten steps from one another if you have
short legs - drained in opposite directions. This either means that
there are other conditions which were overriding the Coriolis force,
or that the equator runs through Norway. Last time i checked,
Trondheim was at 60-odd degrees (some of those degrees are very odd, i
might add) north latitude.

As far as i remember, in our present abode, both basins of the kitchen
sink drain counter-clockwise, and the bathtub drains clockwise.
Again, either something is consistently overriding Coriolis, or the
equator has moved considerably. (I haven't actually checked the
bathroom or laundry room sinks... call it laziness.)

By the way, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't buckets and sinks
and what not move in the same way as a low-pressure system? This
means counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and clockwise in
the southern... the opposite of what Palin wrote. Oh, well, why
bother with accuracy when legends are so much more fun....

-Cindy Kandolf
ci...@lise.unit.no
Trondheim, Norway

Robin Halligan

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Hi Cynthia Kandolf On 2 Jan 94 17:08:43 YOU WROTE:
>Ender Wiggin (??) writes:

>>[stuff about watching this "happen" using a stick and plastic bucket
>>deleted]
>>
>> Comments anyone?

>Yes. Michael Palin and the group of American tourists he watched this
>"demonstration" with were gullible.

I saw this on the telly (A film crew was with them) and just by watching
you could see that he didn't realy beleve a word that they said and he took
it all with a grain of salt.

Robin "Jvyy abg zragvba Ivpxv Ebovafba va zl cbfg" Halligan
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I didn't evolve from no big dumb cave man that got ate by the dinosaur
I evolved from the quick little Fuckers that got back to the cave.

Gallagher the comedian.

Alan J Rosenthal

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twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>T.*Hot water evaporates while freezing, producing 75% of ice in 90% of time.

Only if they're close enough in temperature, right? Didn't Cecil Adams try
this and find that the cold water froze faster? (One might be tempted to say
that obviously if the water was sufficiently hotter it would freeze slower, but
there is a maximum temperature of water (100 degrees), so it's not obvious.)

>F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.

Again, isn't this slightly overstated? Would not a better statement be
something like "chilling makes you more susceptible to colds than it does to
other diseases"?

Alan "feeling more strongly about the first than the second" Rosenthal

Alan J Rosenthal

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d...@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) writes:
>> "In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
>>the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
>>Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
>>Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
>>Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
>>the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
>>floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
>>direction. Then we (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
>>Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
>>we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
>>On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)
>
>(this took up four pages??)

It must be a book with very large type and lots of pictures.

Sarah Skovronsky

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fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:

>twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>>T.*Hot water evaporates while freezing, producing 75% of ice in 90% of time.

>Only if they're close enough in temperature, right? Didn't Cecil Adams try
>this and find that the cold water froze faster? (One might be tempted to say
>that obviously if the water was sufficiently hotter it would freeze slower, but
>there is a maximum temperature of water (100 degrees), so it's not obvious.)

From _More of The Straight Dope_, p. 100, reprinted without permission
'cause that's what I do best.

"I found that cold water (38 degrees Fahrenheit) froze faster than hot
water out of the tap (125 degrees F)....[Jearl Walker of Scientific
American] found that water heated to, say, 195 degrees would freeze 3 to
10 minutes faster than water at 140-175 degrees....Jearl suggested that
the most likely explanation for this was evaporation: when water cools
down from near boiling to the freezing point, as much as 16 percent
evaporates away....In addition, the water vapor carries away a certain
amount of heat. To test this theory, Jearl covered his lab beaker with
Saran Wrap to prevent water vapor from escaping. The freezing rate
difference was greatly diminished."

Conclusions:

1) Yup, it's evaporation that produces the difference.
2) When the "hot" water is low enough in temperature, near to the "cold"
water (as in the kitchen-tap experiment), the amount of evaporation
is not sufficient to overcome the fact that cold water is that much
nearer to freezing anyway.

'Course, that's only what Cecil said. I haven't read any additional
information (as indicated by the * in the FAQ entry...)

>>F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.

>Again, isn't this slightly overstated? Would not a better statement be
>something like "chilling makes you more susceptible to colds than it does to
>other diseases"?

Nope--the legend (spouted by moms and grandmas as a warning) is "Don't go
outside without a jacket--you'll catch cold!" This implies that simply
being chilled, even in the absence of, oh, germs, will produce a nasty cold.

Sarah "Studying? Why? I do my research on a.f.u." Skovronsky


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Steve Lubars

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In article <2g9jhk$p...@news.u.washington.edu>,

Sarah Skovronsky <star...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>
>>twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>>>F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.
>>
>Nope--the legend (spouted by moms and grandmas as a warning) is "Don't go
>outside without a jacket--you'll catch cold!" This implies that simply
>being chilled, even in the absence of, oh, germs, will produce a nasty cold.
>
>Sarah "Studying? Why? I do my research on a.f.u." Skovronsky

So what's the verdict? Does being chilled affect the immune
system? Earlier replies to my original post said no. Why then
does it seem like people get sick more in the winter? Or is
that also UL?

Zany things that affect the immune system:
1) microgravity
2) depression
3) being chilled?

Steve Lubars

Steven Joseph Marzuola

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To avoid confusing attributions, there aren't any ...

: >F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due
: to Coriolis.

: >T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to
: isolate it.

: I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
: by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
: journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
: Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)
:
: "In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
: the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
: Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
: Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
: Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
: the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
: floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
: direction. Then we, (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
: Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
: we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-

: clockwise. On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all."


: (p. 201-204)
: This journey was filmed by a joint BBC/A&E crew, so perhaps there
: is actual footage of this aried somewhere.
: Comments anyone?

Plenty of footage. The journey was shown as a multi-part documentary
(called "Pole-to-Pole") on the two networks, and I happened to see the
episode containing the demonstration of the Coriolis effect that you
describe. Very low key, but fascinating to watch. However, it
doesn't invalidate the "True" statement above. The coriolis effect
exists, but it is very small compared to other effects.

There is an experiment that I did in grade school, not knowing about
the Coriolis effect ... I noticed that water swirled out of the
bathtub and made a little "whirlpool", or cyclone, and I wondered
whether I could make it go the other way. You can get the cyclone
started going either way. It depends on how you allow the water to
flow toward the center (the drain), probably also the features of the
bottom of the vessel, and there is also an "inertia" effect ... if it
starts swirling one way, it tends to keep going that way.

The demo that Palin saw was real, but carefully constructed, so that
nothing else would affect which direction the water swirled, except
the Coriolis effect.


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Any resemblance to the views of Rice University is strictly coincidental.

Lee Rudolph

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marz...@owlnet.rice.edu (Steven Joseph Marzuola) writes:

>The demo that Palin saw was real, but carefully constructed, so that
>nothing else would affect which direction the water swirled, except
>the Coriolis effect.

That's one hypothesis. Another one is that "the demo that Palin
saw was" fraudulently "carefully constructed". As a good Bayesian, I
should declare that *my* prior puts almost all my eggs in the second
basket. One source of this opinion is that the "demo that Palin saw"
was part of a tourist trap, and my own experiences with tourist traps
(as well as what I've read about them) suggest that fraud, rather than
scrupulous experimental design incorporating "careful... construct"ion
to eliminate untoward perturbations, plays the major role in the
exhibits of scientific wonders therein.

Lee "does the Information Superhighway go past the Wall Drug Store,
Wall, South Dakota, yet?" Rudolph

DaveHatunen

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In article <CJ2CB...@rice.edu> marz...@owlnet.rice.edu (Steven Joseph Marzuola) writes:

[...]

>The demo that Palin saw was real, but carefully constructed, so that
>nothing else would affect which direction the water swirled, except
>the Coriolis effect.

Actually, it was carefully constructed to gull naive tourists.

Next thing you'll be telling us that gravity really is strange at the
various "Mystery Spots" around the USA.

Sudden thought: Is "Mystery Spot" a franchise?

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* Until they find out he can see, then they kill him *
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Terry Chan

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From ze FAQ:
->>>F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.

In response to a comment by Alan Rosenthal, Sarah Skovronsky
<star...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
->Nope--the legend (spouted by moms and grandmas as a warning) is "Don't go
->outside without a jacket--you'll catch cold!" This implies that simply
->being chilled, even in the absence of, oh, germs, will produce a nasty cold.
->
->Sarah "Studying? Why? I do my research on a.f.u." Skovronsky

So lub...@vlsi.bu.edu writes:
-So what's the verdict? Does being chilled affect the immune
-system? Earlier replies to my original post said no. Why then
-does it seem like people get sick more in the winter? Or is
-that also UL?

However you perceive it, Sarah is, as she often is, correct.
Two studies have shown that being chilled does not affect the
likelihood of catching a cold. They are:

H.F. Dowling, et al. "Transmission of the Common Cold to
Volunteers Under Controlled Conditions," _American Journal
of Hygiene_, (Vol. 68, pp. 659-65), 1958. And repeated by

R.G. Douglas, Jr., K.M. Lindgren, and R.B. Couch in "Exposure
to Cold Environment and Rhinovirus Common Cold," in the _New
England Journal of Medicine_, 1968.

My original post which discussed a little of the above has just
been uploaded to cathouse.org.

Terry "Perceiving is often believing and often not real" Chan

Alan J Rosenthal

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star...@u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) writes:
>>Again, isn't this slightly overstated? Would not a better statement be
>>something like "chilling makes you more susceptible to colds than it does to
>>other diseases"?
>
>Nope--the legend (spouted by moms and grandmas as a warning) is "Don't go
>outside without a jacket--you'll catch cold!" This implies that simply
>being chilled, even in the absence of, oh, germs, will produce a nasty cold.

I strenuously dispute the contention that this quotation denies the germ theory
of disease, or that it implies a guarantee rather than a risk of catching cold.
It merely states a greatly amplified probability of catching a cold in the
GIVEN CONDITIONS, which are not germ-free.

Anyway, *my* statistically invalid observation is that people get colds more at
flux times of the year, like now, rather than in the middle of the winter. It
seems to be the change in weather that does it rather than the cold. Perhaps
it's people's adjusting to the weather conditions which causes whatever
behavioural shift is responsible, or perhaps I'm just imagining it.

Alan "working hard at avoiding getting back to work" Rosenthal

Steve Lubars

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From sci.physics FAQ, part 2/2:


Which Way Will my Bathtub Drain? updated 16-MAR-1993 by SIC
-------------------------------- original by Matthew R. Feinstein

Question: Does my bathtub drain differently depending on whether I live
in the northern or southern hemisphere?

Answer: No. There is a real effect, but it is far too small to be relevant
when you pull the plug in your bathtub.

Because the earth rotates, a fluid that flows along the earth's
surface feels a "Coriolis" acceleration perpendicular to its velocity.
In the northern hemisphere low pressure storm systems spin counterclockwise.
In the southern hemisphere, they spin clockwise because the direction
of the Coriolis acceleration is reversed. This effect leads to the
speculation that the bathtub vortex that you see when you pull the plug
from the drain spins one way in the north and the other way in the south.

But this acceleration is VERY weak for bathtub-scale fluid
motions. The order of magnitude of the Coriolis acceleration can be
estimated from size of the "Rossby number" (see below). The effect of the
Coriolis acceleration on your bathtub vortex is SMALL. To detect its
effect on your bathtub, you would have to get out and wait until the motion
in the water is far less than one rotation per day. This would require
removing thermal currents, vibration, and any other sources of noise. Under
such conditions, never occurring in the typical home, you WOULD see an
effect. To see what trouble it takes to actually see the effect, see the
reference below. Experiments have been done in both the northern and
southern hemispheres to verify that under carefully controlled conditions,
bathtubs drain in opposite directions due to the Coriolis acceleration from
the Earth's rotation.

Coriolis accelerations are significant when the Rossby number is
SMALL. So, suppose we want a Rossby number of 0.1 and a bathtub-vortex
length scale of 0.1 meter. Since the earth's rotation rate is about
10^(-4)/second, the fluid velocity should be less than or equal to
2*10^(-6) meters/second. This is a very small velocity. How small is it?
Well, we can take the analysis a step further and calculate another, more
famous dimensionless parameter, the Reynolds number.

The Reynolds number is = L*U*density/viscosity

Assuming that physicists bathe in hot water the viscosity will be
about 0.005 poise and the density will be about 1.0, so the Reynolds Number
is about 4*10^(-2).

Now, life at low Reynolds numbers is different from life at high
Reynolds numbers. In particular, at low Reynolds numbers, fluid physics is
dominated by friction and diffusion, rather than by inertia: the time it
would take for a particle of fluid to move a significant distance due to an
acceleration is greater than the time it takes for the particle to break up
due to diffusion.

The same effect has been accused of responsibility for the
direction water circulates when you flush a toilet. This is surely
nonsense. In this case, the water rotates in the direction which the pipe
points which carries the water from the tank to the bowl.

Reference: Trefethen, L.M. et al, Nature 207 1084-5 (1965).


bill nelson

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Jan 3, 1994, 3:30:36 PM1/3/94
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marz...@owlnet.rice.edu (Steven Joseph Marzuola) writes:
:
: There is an experiment that I did in grade school, not knowing about

: the Coriolis effect ... I noticed that water swirled out of the
: bathtub and made a little "whirlpool", or cyclone, and I wondered
: whether I could make it go the other way. You can get the cyclone
: started going either way. It depends on how you allow the water to
: flow toward the center (the drain), probably also the features of the
: bottom of the vessel, and there is also an "inertia" effect ... if it
: starts swirling one way, it tends to keep going that way.
:
: The demo that Palin saw was real, but carefully constructed, so that
: nothing else would affect which direction the water swirled, except
: the Coriolis effect.

Actually, no. The direction of the swirl was exactly backwards to what
would be caused by the Coriolis effect. The demonstration did not prove
anything - except that the Coriolis effect is negligible, in small volume
experiments - and may be ignored.

Bill

Larry Oberle

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Jan 3, 1994, 3:32:00 PM1/3/94
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After much arguing back and forth about the germ theory of disease, and
whether you can catch cold in a vacuum, fl...@dgp.toronto.edu
(Alan J Rosenthal) writes...

>
>Anyway, *my* statistically invalid observation is that people get colds more at
>flux times of the year, like now, rather than in the middle of the winter. It
>seems to be the change in weather that does it rather than the cold. Perhaps
>it's people's adjusting to the weather conditions which causes whatever
>behavioural shift is responsible, or perhaps I'm just imagining it.
>

The prevailing theory in these parts, statistically valid, or not, seems to be:
You catch colds when its cold outside, but not too cold. People get sick
in the fall and spring because the temperature is not cold enough to kill all
the airborne germs.


ObUL: Starve a cold, feed a fever. (Or is it feed a cold, starve a fever?)

Larry "Aah, just starve 'em both" Oberle

Alan J Rosenthal

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Jan 3, 1994, 4:51:09 PM1/3/94
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obe...@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Larry Oberle) writes:
>ObUL: Starve a cold, feed a fever. (Or is it feed a cold, starve a fever?)

It's most definitely "feed a cold" and "starve a fever" (I'm not sure in which
order though).

Insufficient food may make a fever decline as it does many other kinds of body
processes, but it's probably unwise unless the fever itself is threatening.

When you're sick in general, you need your strength and should continue to eat
unless it's inordinately difficult. A little food makes you less nauseated
than an empty stomach. With a cold, you run a substantial risk of dehydration
for some reason, which can be unpleasant and might give you a headache. All
these are good reasons to keep eating at least a little when you have a bad
cold. But mostly, as they say, "drink plenty of fluids".

So I think the "feed a cold" advice is sound (to a limit) but the "starve a
fever" advice is usually not, except for sufficiently high fever.

Ok everyone, go ahead and shoot down all of the above.

Alan "make my day" Rosenthal

Lee Boyle

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Jan 3, 1994, 5:30:48 PM1/3/94
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In article <3JAN1994...@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, obe...@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Larry Oberle) writes:
>
> The prevailing theory in these parts, statistically valid, or not, seems to be:
> You catch colds when its cold outside, but not too cold. People get sick
> in the fall and spring because the temperature is not cold enough to kill all
> the airborne germs.

That would mean that people in Arizona would get more colds than people in
North Dakota, because it gets cold outside, but not enough to kill anything.

I amused a cashier last week when she noticed that I was wearing shorts and
a t-shirt and was buying cold medicines (for my wife).


--
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David DeLaney

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Jan 3, 1994, 5:57:42 PM1/3/94
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(i'm *sure* this has all been covered before, but)
4) being cooped up together because it's 2 Dam Cold outside; this won't *start*
more colds, but it'll make them easier to spread.
5) do people's noses tend to run more when it's cold regardless of whether
they actually are sick? this would also contribute... rub nose, shake hands,...

Dave "will not eat boogers for food ... while *anyone* is watching" DeLaney

Rick Kitchen

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Jan 3, 1994, 6:54:02 PM1/3/94
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In a previous article, boy...@agcs.com (Lee Boyle) says:

> I amused a cashier last week when she noticed that I was wearing shorts and
> a t-shirt and was buying cold medicines (for my wife).

While Christmas window-shopping in Sacramento, on a day when the
average temperature was around 35 degrees (Fahrenheit), I noticed a
gentleman wearing a short sleeved shirt with no jacket, and a pair of gloves.

Rick "Obviously he had cold hands" Kitchen

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Vicki Robinson has left the .sig

Sarah Skovronsky

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Jan 3, 1994, 7:34:07 PM1/3/94
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lubars@marge (Steve Lubars) writes:

>So what's the verdict? Does being chilled affect the immune
>system? Earlier replies to my original post said no. Why then
>does it seem like people get sick more in the winter? Or is
>that also UL?

>Zany things that affect the immune system:
>1) microgravity
>2) depression
>3) being chilled?

Seems to me that people would get more colds in winter because they go
inside where all the sick people are. (People stuck in crowded
classrooms with sniffling classmates, for example.)

Or, it could be that people don't really catch more colds in the
winter--people just make a big deal about it. You get sick in the
summer, it's not really noticed. You get sick in the winter, someone
pipes up saying "Yup, it's that season again..."

Sarah "Mistress of Phlegm" Skovronsky


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Derek Tearne

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Jan 4, 1994, 2:44:39 AM1/4/94
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In article <1994Jan2.1...@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mwhe...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ender Wiggin) writes:
>twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>>1 January 1994
>> Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends
>(...)
>>Key to one liners below:
>> F = 100% falsehood
>(...)
>>THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
>(...)
>>F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
>>T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.
>
> I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
>by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
>journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
>Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)

Four pages of copyright infringement deleted. Got a spiffy new scanner
have we. Don't tell me you typed it all in did you, what a loser.

My source for concurring with the FAQ entry is genuinely first hand, by that
I mean _my_ hands turned the taps in question, rather than all that physics
stuff which I don't understand and really can't do without a calculator
(Sorry Vicki).

Of the two sinks and one bath currently available in my flat two go
anticlockwise and one goes clockwise (or is it the other way round,
it really doesn't matter) when one empties out the water. This is a simple
experiment one can try at home with equipment readily available in all but
the poorest of homes.

Even more conclusive proof is that Terry Chan, no less, has performed the
same experiment and at least one of his sink outlets empties in the
same direction as mine.

Conclusive proof indeed.

Michael Palin was making a journalistic journey for the purpose of deriving
amusement and making money. At another point in the book a witch doctor
gives him a potion which he doesn't take and he has bad luck until he takes
it. Conclusive proof of Voodoo, I think not!

Derek "Now if it had been David Attenborough..." Tearne

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consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.

denn...@news.delphi.com

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Jan 4, 1994, 7:54:58 AM1/4/94
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lrud...@black.clarku.edu (Lee Rudolph) writes:

>Lee "does the Information Superhighway go past the Wall Drug Store,
>Wall, South Dakota, yet?" Rudolph

ObUL: The Wall Drug Store, Wall, SD is the world's largest
Drug Store (i.e. "Chemist's" to English Speakers)

I was there this past summer while enroute to Sturgis &
points west. It IS large (it is most of the town of Wall).

It is even more formidable with umpty-umpteen bikers in and
around it, in full costume, looking for a bit of fun.

But, is it the World's Largest?

t "one of the world's largest rodentia" c
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\. ./ Superhighway & gettin' bugs in m' teeth"
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"

Jonathan Haruni

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Jan 4, 1994, 10:29:04 AM1/4/94
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Derek Tearne (de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz) wrote:
>> [blah blah blah] coriolis [blah blah blah] Michael Palin [blah blah blah]

> Derek "Now if it had been David Attenborough..." Tearne

I saw the same experiment conducted on television by Magnus Pike (sp?),
who used to do a science-for-the-masses show, later featured in a
Thomas Dolby song, and unfortunately died recently. What he lacked
in Attenborough's production abilities, he made up for in character.
He did manage to demonstrate the effect, with a matchstick in a bathtub
in some African location. I can't remember if he had it the wrong way
around. I also can't remember the name of the show. It was on in
Canada in the late 70's, but I think it was reruns of a British program
recorded earlier, perhaps the early 70's. Does anyone remember any
more details about this ?

--
Jonathan Haruni

DaveHatunen

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Jan 4, 1994, 10:29:52 AM1/4/94
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In article <2gab6q$r...@news.ysu.edu> ap...@yfn.ysu.edu (Rick Kitchen) writes:
>
>In a previous article, boy...@agcs.com (Lee Boyle) says:
>
>> I amused a cashier last week when she noticed that I was wearing shorts and
>> a t-shirt and was buying cold medicines (for my wife).
>
>While Christmas window-shopping in Sacramento, on a day when the
>average temperature was around 35 degrees (Fahrenheit), I noticed a
>gentleman wearing a short sleeved shirt with no jacket, and a pair of gloves.

Maybe he was a tourist from the midwest who saw too many
Annette-Frankie movies and thought California was always warm.

Dave "Was he carrying a surfboard?" Hatunen

Lee Boyle

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Jan 4, 1994, 11:27:45 AM1/4/94
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In article <1994Jan3.0...@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
|> d...@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) writes:
|> >>[...]

|> >>we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
|> >>On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)
|> >
|> >(this took up four pages??)
|>
|> It must be a book with very large type and lots of pictures.

In the northern hemisphere, a tub may drain either clockwise or
counter-clockwise, but the same tub in the southern hemisphere
will drain clockwise or anti-clockwise. I have never heard a
scientific explanation of this phenomenon.

Dan Wright

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Jan 4, 1994, 2:05:19 PM1/4/94
to
Larry Oberle related a theory:
: You catch colds when its cold outside, but not too cold. People get sick

: in the fall and spring because the temperature is not cold enough to kill all
: the airborne germs.

Let's play pretend. Close your eyes and imagine that rhinoviruses are
populating the atmosphere outdoors, swirling up in the clouds, waiting for
a chance to swoop in and get 'cha, and thriving or declining due to
seasonal outdoor temperatures. Pretty spooky! Just when you thought it
was save to go outside.

Actually such viruses can't live for long outside their hosts. The only
air they're found in is air nearby the hosts, and during the winter the
hosts stay mostly indoors. One reason contagious diseases are more
prevalent in the colder months is that people are cooped up together with
less fresh outdoor ventilation.

But the main reason colds and other contagious diseases are more prevalent
in the fall, winter, and spring, is that kids are in school then.

Kids have poorer hygiene than adults, and have much more physical contact
with each other. Kids aren't preoccupied with sexual connotations, and so
aren't inhibited to wrestle and hug. Germs that come around a school go
around, and get taken home.

Here's where the Old Wives got the idea that being chilled, and catching a
"cold", are causally related: one reaction to being chilled is to get a
runny nose. Rhinovirus also cause runny noses. Gee, if they're both
associated with runny noses, they must be causally related.

As Terry C. and others pointed, out, numerous studies have shown that the
immune system is not compromised by a person's being chilled. Despite
knowing the truth of the matter, the myth is yet so widespread and
intuitive that even some doctors subconsciously bundle up to avoid
"catching cold".

-- Dan Wright

denn...@news.delphi.com

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Jan 4, 1994, 3:45:15 PM1/4/94
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d...@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Dan Wright) writes:

[mucous tales removed]


>knowing the truth of the matter, the myth is yet so widespread and
>intuitive that even some doctors subconsciously bundle up to avoid

>"catching cold". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> -- Dan Wright


I assume you mean that they do that thing where they get into
bed together with a board between them. Does the
board have a hole in it?

t "will bundle for room, no board" c
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Doug Rudoff

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Jan 4, 1994, 4:33:38 PM1/4/94
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In article <1994Jan2.1...@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,

Ender Wiggin <mwhe...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> wrote:
> I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
>by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
>journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
>Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)
>
> "In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
>the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
>Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
>Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
>Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
>the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
>floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
>direction. Then we, (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
>Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
>we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
>On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)

From this quote it appears that the Peter was holding the bowl. It is
quite easy to subconsciously affect the outcome of this demonstration.
A similar demonstration can be done with what's know as [some French
guys name] Pendulum. Tie a small weight to a piece string (I've even
done this with an extension cord and keys). Hold the string with one
hand and "will" the weight to swing clockwise. It will starting going
in clockwise circles. Will it to go counter-clockwise. In a little
while as the clockwise momentum is killed it will start going
counter-clockwise. Will it to make a big or small circle. Will it to
swing back and forth. Without consciously moving your hand the
pendulum will do what you "will" it to do.

Hey, I just did it with my mouse. Try it!
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David DeLaney

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Jan 5, 1994, 12:33:26 AM1/5/94
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d...@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Dan Wright) writes:
>Larry Oberle related a theory:
>: You catch colds when its cold outside, but not too cold. People get sick
>: in the fall and spring because the temperature is not cold enough to kill all
>: the airborne germs.
>Let's play pretend. Close your eyes and imagine that rhinoviruses are
>populating the atmosphere outdoors, swirling up in the clouds, waiting for
>a chance to swoop in and get 'cha, and thriving or declining due to
>seasonal outdoor temperatures. Pretty spooky! Just when you thought it
>was save to go outside.
>Actually such viruses can't live for long outside their hosts. The only
>air they're found in is air nearby the hosts, and during the winter the
>hosts stay mostly indoors. One reason contagious diseases are more
>prevalent in the colder months is that people are cooped up together with
>less fresh outdoor ventilation.

I'll relate a more recent theory (can't remember sources/attributions,
unfortunately): I read about a researcher who's convinced that the main
reason flu shows up in early spring and late fall is that it's carried by
migrating *geese* (which, given the general weirdness of our biosystem, may
very well be true), which provide a sort of "pool" of stored virus...

Dave "will not chase wild geese for food" DeLaney

Barbara Hamel

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Jan 5, 1994, 2:31:39 AM1/5/94
to

In a previous article, rud...@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) says:

>From this quote it appears that the Peter was holding the bowl. It is
>quite easy to subconsciously affect the outcome of this demonstration.
>A similar demonstration can be done with what's know as [some French
>guys name] Pendulum. Tie a small weight to a piece string (I've even
>done this with an extension cord and keys). Hold the string with one
>hand and "will" the weight to swing clockwise. It will starting going
>in clockwise circles. Will it to go counter-clockwise. In a little
>while as the clockwise momentum is killed it will start going
>counter-clockwise. Will it to make a big or small circle. Will it to
>swing back and forth. Without consciously moving your hand the
>pendulum will do what you "will" it to do.
>
>Hey, I just did it with my mouse. Try it!

Wait just a minute here, folks! There must be no mouse swinging!
This group has enough of a rodent problem already, what with people
showing so much interest in turning innocent little gerbils into
sex toys -- the last thing we need now is to hear about how much
fun it is to do it with your mouse.

Barbara "swinging mice? what's next - wife-swapping hamsters?" Hamel
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Andrew Welsh

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Jan 5, 1994, 9:38:52 AM1/5/94
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In article <1994Jan3.0...@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, fl...@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
|> d...@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) writes:

[Michael Palin coriolis effect demonstration snipped]

|> >(this took up four pages??)
|>
|> It must be a book with very large type and lots of pictures.

Yes it is. And not very cheap either.

Andrew 'not that the BBC needs the money' Welsh
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cindy davies

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Jan 5, 1994, 12:50:48 PM1/5/94
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In article <2gbov2$s...@news.delphi.com>,

Not only is Wall Drug the worlds largest Drug store, it is the home of
the worlds largest Jackalope.
DENN...@DELPHI.COM <denn...@news.delphi.com>

wrote: >lrud...@black.clarku.edu (Lee Rudolph) writes:
>
>>Lee "does the Information Superhighway go past the Wall Drug Store,
>>Wall, South Dakota, yet?" Rudolph

OBUL: The Wall Drug Store had the first USENET newsfeed in the state of
South Dakota.


>
>ObUL: The Wall Drug Store, Wall, SD is the world's largest
> Drug Store (i.e. "Chemist's" to English Speakers)
>

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who it is.
Cindy Davies clda...@nyx.cs.du.edu and Princess, Tobi, Spring, Mica,
and Joker

DENN...@delphi.com

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Jan 5, 1994, 2:04:22 PM1/5/94
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cindy davies <clda...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> writes:

>OBUL: The Wall Drug Store had the first USENET newsfeed in the state of
>South Dakota.

What? You mean that I coulda' been catchin' up on AFU instead
of pricing 6" square cowboy belt buckles made of Black Hills
Gold saying "Live to Ride, Ride to Live"?

t "I didn't buy one" c
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\. ./ in the Desi Arnaz role of 'The Long Trailer'"
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Dr. Memory

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Jan 5, 1994, 1:23:51 PM1/5/94
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In article <2g5ql6$4...@news.u.washington.edu>,
star...@stein2.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) wrote:

> Ah! I'm in the FAQ! I feel much better about myself as a person now.
>
> Sarah "where do I turn in the applications for Terry-hood?" Skovronsky


> --
> ************************************************************************
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> * "Naughty, naughty. Verrrry naughty." *
> ************************************************************************
...................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

.... I think I want to party with this lady

Dana "but only if Vicki will let me" Netz
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Dr. Memory

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Jan 5, 1994, 1:34:05 PM1/5/94
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In article <2gc5e1$7r7@hw_lee.agcs.com>, boy...@agcs.com (Lee Boyle) wrote:


>
> In the northern hemisphere, a tub may drain either clockwise or
> counter-clockwise, but the same tub in the southern hemisphere
> will drain clockwise or anti-clockwise. I have never heard a
> scientific explanation of this phenomenon.
>

..... I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, but the scientific
explanation of this phenomenon may be summed up by a single word: "Gravity"

Dana "or its opposite, Comedy" Netz
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===Swirling down the drain of life with Vicki Robinson by my side......

Derek Tearne

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Jan 5, 1994, 3:42:30 AM1/5/94
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In article <2gc200$5...@zeus.london.micrognosis.com> jha...@micrognosis.co.uk writes:
>Derek Tearne (de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz) wrote:
>>> [blah blah blah] coriolis [blah blah blah] Michael Palin [blah blah blah]
>> Derek "Now if it had been David Attenborough..." Tearne
>
>I saw the same experiment conducted on television by Magnus Pike (sp?),
>who used to do a science-for-the-masses show, later featured in a
>Thomas Dolby song, and unfortunately died recently.

What, Thomas is _dead_ that's a shame, His last album was really rather
good, expecially the line that goes "Al baby two and two make five and a
quarter, that's why people fall in love" (Don't use a calculator on that one
Vicki).

>I also can't remember the name of the show. It was on in
>Canada in the late 70's, but I think it was reruns of a British program
>recorded earlier, perhaps the early 70's. Does anyone remember any
>more details about this ?

I remember watching Magnus Pyke frequently in my youth (The song is 'She
blinded me with Science' BTW). I will remember the name of the TV show
soon. Magnus was, in fact, one of my childhood heroes. I remember
clearly my distress when he proved conclusively (in a TV studio) that
the Coriolis effect did _not_ make any difference to the direction that
water swirled down the plug hole. Until then I believed wholeheartedly
that water swirled the other way in the antipodes.

Also the program was not made on a particularly large budget and I don't
recall any location shots in the entire series which were outside the UK,
or even the ITV studios. A location in an African country for a single
experiment would have been incredibly wasteful.

This may be like the "In the butt Bob" and "That should hold the little
Bastards" where people insist they recall seeing events which didn't
actually happen. I would be very interested indeed to find what really
happened on the program. I think it is unlikely he did the experiment
twice with different results.

Derek "Any other people remember this show" Tearne

Paul Peterson

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Jan 5, 1994, 4:32:00 PM1/5/94
to
mwhe...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Ender Wiggin) writes:

>twc...@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>>1 January 1994
>> Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends
>(...)
>>Key to one liners below:
>> F = 100% falsehood
>(...)
>>THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
>(...)
>>F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
>>T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.
>

> I beg to differ. My source is a first hand account reported
>by Michael Palin in his new book "Pole to Pole" where he narrates his
>journet from the North Pole to the South Pole along 30 degrees East
>Longitude. Reprinted without permission. (All typos mine)
>
> "In the ruins of what was once the Silverbeck Hotel, which straddled
>the Equator and offered punters the prospect of buying a beer in the
>Northern Hemisphere and drinking it in the Southern, a young African called
>Peter demonstrates the Coriolis effect by which energy in the Northern
>Hemisphere appears to be directed to the right, and in the Southern to
>the left. Peter drains a bowl of water in the North, and, by means of a
>floating stick, we observe that the water drains away in a clockwise
>direction. Then we, (myself and a group of American tourists) wander with
>Peter, his stick and his plastic bucket into the Southern Hemisphere where
>we observe that in exactly the same operation, the stick turns anti-clockwise.
>On the Equator line itself, the stick doesn't turn at all." (p. 201-204)
>

> This journey was filmed by a joint BBC/A&E crew, so perhaps there
>is actual footage of this aried somewhere.
> Comments anyone?
>

Although I'm certainly not an expert on this, it seems to me that:

1) The difference in the effect within a few hundred feet of the
equator, as indicated in this story, should be so small as to
be negligible.

2) It would be very easy for Peter to influence the way the water
drains by the way he pours it from the bucket.

Paul "is this the 'Great Sucking Sound' Perot mentioned?" Peterson

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kate

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de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>I remember watching Magnus Pyke frequently in my youth (The song is 'She
>blinded me with Science' BTW).

That reminds me to ask: does anyone have a cite for the "blinded with science"
quotation? I saw in in print somewhere just before the Dolby song came out,
but had forgotten just where...


Kate "deafened with nescience" McDonnell

Jonathan Haruni

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Derek Tearne (de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz) wrote:
> What, Thomas is _dead_ that's a shame,

Perhaps this is one of those situations where a colon, hyphen, and other
punctuation would have helped, but in case it isn't, Magnus died, not
Thomas. Perhaps Thomas is dead too, I've never heard otherwise. But
I saw him standing with Elvis a the bus stop last night. They were
singing, "One of our blue suede shoes is missing, tonight...".

> Also the program was not made on a particularly large budget and I don't
> recall any location shots in the entire series which were outside the UK,
> or even the ITV studios. A location in an African country for a single
> experiment would have been incredibly wasteful.

> This may be like ... where people ... recall seeing events which didn't
> actually happen.

It may be. I think I was eight or nine when I saw these shows. It may
be that they showed a clip taped not by them, or that I saw the African clip
on some other show. Hopefully someone else will remember more. Has the name
of the show come to you yet ?

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dave budd

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Jan 6, 1994, 6:12:40 AM1/6/94
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Talking of drugstores, last night I watched Mike McShane tell a Damon Runyon
story (would have been as good, probably better, as a radio show), in which
he claimed that during Prohibition it was possible to get rye whisky on
prescription. Can this really be true?

Dave "Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout I could believe" Budd

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William G. Sinkins

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Jan 6, 1994, 1:33:20 PM1/6/94
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In article <1994Jan5.0...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:

|> I remember watching Magnus Pyke frequently in my youth (The song is 'She
|> blinded me with Science' BTW). I will remember the name of the TV show
|> soon. Magnus was, in fact, one of my childhood heroes. I remember
|> clearly my distress when he proved conclusively (in a TV studio) that
|> the Coriolis effect did _not_ make any difference to the direction that
|> water swirled down the plug hole. Until then I believed wholeheartedly
|> that water swirled the other way in the antipodes.
|>
|> Also the program was not made on a particularly large budget and I don't
|> recall any location shots in the entire series which were outside the UK,
|> or even the ITV studios. A location in an African country for a single
|> experiment would have been incredibly wasteful.

|> Derek "Any other people remember this show" Tearne
|>

I sure do. The title was "Don't Ask Me".

Despite the low budget, they managed to do quite a good job. One episode I
remember especially well is the one in which they explained what happens when
you crack your knuckles. How did they do it? Why, with an automated knuckle-
cracking machine. This gizmo clamps your wrist in place, and a lasso-like thing
pulls on one of your fingers until the knuckle pops. All of this takes place
over an x-ray machine so that the nasty goings-on can be recorded.


Bill 'dunno how Magnus and T. Dolby got together, though' Sinkins


cask...@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

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Jan 6, 1994, 3:10:22 PM1/6/94
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In article <2gc5e1$7r7@hw_lee.agcs.com>, boy...@agcs.com (Lee Boyle) writes:
> In the northern hemisphere, a tub may drain either clockwise or
> counter-clockwise, but the same tub in the southern hemisphere
> will drain clockwise or anti-clockwise. I have never heard a
> scientific explanation of this phenomenon.

If you ask again in September you will.

WRT the later appearance in this thread of the late Dr Magnus Pyke, I have
a slim (144pp) paperback by said gentleman titled "Red Rag To A Bull". The
back cover reads:

'Red rag to a bull' is actually meaningless, because bulls are
colour blind. And this is only one of countless mistaken beliefs
that occur in our daily lives.

If you are someone who:
* reads horoscopes
* throws spilt salt over your left shoulder
* avoids walking under ladders
* keeps razor blades under cardboard pyramids
- then it is high time you faced the facts and consulted this
dictionary of fallacies to see how Dr Magnus Pyke in his famous
no-nonsense style pours cold logic on everything from Bombay Duck
to Warts, and from the Bermuda Triangle to Welsh Rabbit.

ISBN 0-09-936330-5, if anyone's interested. I think this book makes good
AFU supplemental reading.

Just to give an example of Dr Pyke's animated presentation style, a
British comedy program (name eludes me) once had him in the ring with the
World Heavyweight Boxing Champion. The bell sounds, Magnus starts
explaining something-or-other and throwing his arms about violently. Champ
is pole-axed.

Steve "no BBC program is EVER made with a 'particularly large budget'" Caskey
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Todd Larason

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Jan 6, 1994, 3:46:58 PM1/6/94
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zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>he claimed that during Prohibition it was possible to get rye whisky on
>prescription. Can this really be true?

Assuming you mean the prohibition of alcohol by the US Federal goverment,
1920-1932, the answer is an almost certain yes. I say almost certain
because I'm not well versed in whiskey, and am not sure that rye in particular
was available. Whiskey (in supposedly limited quantities) could be prescribed,
and of course it could be produced to fill said prescriptions. One of the
largest bootleggers (whose name I can't remember right now, and my books
aren't available) primarily used the method of buying warehoused stock (when
the Volstead Act went into effect, instead of confiscating the alcohol (and
having to compensate the owner), the alcohol was required to be placed into
gov't warehouses, where you still owned it, but couldn't generally get at it)
and distilleries, such as Jack Daniels, that produced for the medical market,
then having a remarkable string of bad luck, in which almost all the shipments
were hijacked.

There were other legal dodges, as well: some religious groups could get gov't
supplied booze for religious services, and homebrew wasn't completely
illegal. At times, at least, it was legal to sell ver explicit dirctions
on how to distill your own (often sold with blocks of grape product to
produce wine-flavored whiskey). Remember also that it was the sale and
transportation that was illegal&, not the possession or consumption.

For further information, I'd suggest Thomas Coffey's _The Long Thirst_ and
John Kobler's _Ardent Spirits_. Coffey, in particular, makes the subject
delightfully interesting.

"No First Name" Todd Larason
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-- the Vickified Ancients of Robinson

Derek Tearne

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Jan 6, 1994, 3:37:46 PM1/6/94
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In article <5JAN1994...@pavo.concordia.ca> c_m...@pavo.concordia.ca (kate) writes:
>de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>I remember watching Magnus Pyke frequently in my youth (The song is 'She
>>blinded me with Science' BTW).
>
>That reminds me to ask: does anyone have a cite for the "blinded with science"
>quotation? I saw in in print somewhere just before the Dolby song came out,
>but had forgotten just where...

I don't think a specific cite is necessary. The phrase 'blind[ed] [me] with
science' has been in common usage, in the UK at least, for a considerable
period of time and pre dates the song by a long way...

>Kate "deafened with nescience" McDonnell

I believe Vicki Robinson has some expertise in this area...

Derek "Who said that?" Tearne

Rick Kitchen

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Jan 6, 1994, 4:49:21 PM1/6/94
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In a previous article, jha...@micrognosis.co.uk (Jonathan Haruni) says:

>Derek Tearne (de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz) wrote:
>> What, Thomas is _dead_ that's a shame,
>
>Perhaps this is one of those situations where a colon, hyphen, and other
>punctuation would have helped, but in case it isn't, Magnus died, not
>Thomas. Perhaps Thomas is dead too, I've never heard otherwise. But
>I saw him standing with Elvis a the bus stop last night. They were
>singing, "One of our blue suede shoes is missing, tonight...".

What?! Elvis Costello is dead?!

Rick "And I didn't get him anything" Kitchen

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Rick Kitchen ap...@yfn.ysu.edu
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to do a lobotomy on you or something."
--Eve Saskatchewan, "Black Tie Affair"

Ray Depew

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Jan 6, 1994, 5:30:25 PM1/6/94
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: (The song is 'She blinded me with Science' BTW).

There was a terrific a_cappela singing group at Stanford (they were called
"Mixed Company," if anybody cares) who sang a version called "She Bought
Me An Appliance."

R
R

Vicki Robinson

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Jan 6, 1994, 6:23:44 PM1/6/94
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In article <1994Jan6.2...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>In article <5JAN1994...@pavo.concordia.ca> c_m...@pavo.concordia.ca (kate) writes:
>>de...@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>>I remember watching Magnus Pyke frequently in my youth (The song is 'She
>>>blinded me with Science' BTW).
>>
>>That reminds me to ask: does anyone have a cite for the "blinded with science"
>>quotation? I saw in in print somewhere just before the Dolby song came out,
>>but had forgotten just where...
>
>I don't think a specific cite is necessary. The phrase 'blind[ed] [me] with
>science' has been in common usage, in the UK at least, for a considerable
>period of time and pre dates the song by a long way...
>
>>Kate "deafened with nescience" McDonnell
>
>I believe Vicki Robinson has some expertise in this area...
>
>Derek "Who said that?" Tearne
>
>


Not a lot of experience. It is generally considered bad form for a teacher to
blind his or her students. Since I work exclusively with deaf
people, there are additional ramifications in my case. I can dazzle 'em and I
can baffle 'em with the best, though. And I frequently do.

Vicki "And sometimes I am convinced that I work at the National Technical
Institute for the Dead, especially Monday mornings." Robinson
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Odd physics professor |cappuccino in restaurants with
National Technical Institute for the Deaf |deaf women,however. And bald
VJR...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu |guys, too.
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bill nelson

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Jan 7, 1994, 1:26:30 AM1/7/94
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j...@netcom.com (Todd Larason) writes:
:
: There were other legal dodges, as well: some religious groups could get gov't

: supplied booze for religious services, and homebrew wasn't completely
: illegal. At times, at least, it was legal to sell ver explicit dirctions
: on how to distill your own (often sold with blocks of grape product to
: produce wine-flavored whiskey). Remember also that it was the sale and
: transportation that was illegal&, not the possession or consumption.

Actually, home brewing was also totally illegal. Home brewing of beer did
not become legal until February 1979, when a bill was signed by Jimmy Carter.

Bill "Zymurgist" Nelson

Alan J Rosenthal

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Jan 10, 1994, 8:34:23 AM1/10/94
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d...@unislc.slc.unisys.com (Dan Wright) writes:
>Here's where the Old Wives got the idea that being chilled, and catching a
>"cold", are causally related: one reaction to being chilled is to get a
>runny nose. Rhinovirus also cause runny noses. Gee, if they're both
>associated with runny noses, they must be causally related.

The grandmotherly caution isn't "don't go outside without a hat, you'll receive
an infection from rhinovirus type 331B", it's "don't go outside without a hat,
you'll catch cold". It's not clear whether or not the fact that runny noses
from being chilled are non-viral is relevant to this statement.

Of the two dictionaries in easy reach, my Collins GEM seems to imply that a
"cold" can include any condition leading to a runny nose, whereas the on-line
Webster's seems to imply that it's the virus only, although neither is clear on
the issue.

Alan "often traditional wisdom seems false only by an inappropriately strict
interpretation of the words; on the other hand, it's often the case that
traditional wisdom is completely bogus, too" Rosenthal

snopes

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lrud...@black.clarku.edu (Lee Rudolph) writes:

> That's one hypothesis. Another one is that "the demo that Palin
> saw was" fraudulently "carefully constructed". As a good Bayesian, I
> should declare that *my* prior puts almost all my eggs in the second
> basket. One source of this opinion is that the "demo that Palin saw"
> was part of a tourist trap, and my own experiences with tourist traps
> (as well as what I've read about them) suggest that fraud, rather than
> scrupulous experimental design incorporating "careful... construct"ion
> to eliminate untoward perturbations, plays the major role in the
> exhibits of scientific wonders therein.

Are you implying that tourists wouldn't pay perfectly good money to see the
Coriolis Effect disproven? Why do all those people flock to Sioux City on
the Vernal Equinox every year to see eggs not stand on their pointed ends,
then?

- snopes

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Terry Chan

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1 January 1994

Official Usenet Alt.Folklore.Urban Frequently Posted Legends

"I will set down a tale...it may be history it may be only
a legend, a tradition. It may have happened, it may not have
happened. But it could have happened..."

-- Mark Twain [via Christopher Neufeld]

This is alt.folklore.urban -- the newsgroup where nonsense is revered
as an artform, and debunking has been taken to new heights.

The group has broadened its god-given mandate from a place for
discussing urban legends (ULs) to a place for confirming or disproving
beliefs and facts of all kinds, including origin of vernacular ("The
whole nine yards", "Sniping like a bald giraffe"), common scientific
fallacies, obscure points of history, stories of pranks, the location
of Foucalt's pendulums, Why "Space 1999" was better than "Star Trek:
TOS," and so on. In other words, it's a great place to get a reality
check on anything that "a friend" told you, or to compare notes about
odd things.

As a result, you will find items in the classic urban legend mold
(e.g., food contamination legends), as well as old wives tales, and
other oddball facts, trivia, and stories.

TWO NOTES TO NEW READERS:

- We encourage you to post any stories you suspect may be an UL. Funny
or whatever. Details matter! Please try to give as much as possible.
BUT, be advised that many of the stories in the FAQ have been hashed
over. If you wish to debate them, be prepared to substantiate your
claim.

- The weasely :-) symbol is frowned upon in this group. Any questions,
see Phil Gustafson who will gladly rearrange your diodes for you and
charge you two-fifty for it.

A NOTE TO OLD AND WOULD BE OLD READERS:

- If you must troll, bear in mind that trolling outside of AFU
is pretty weak.

The purpose of summarizing these frequently-seen legends is to provide
a guide to veracity and their experience in this newsgroup. Most ULs
cannot be traced back to original true incidents, but some, particularly
the more recent ones can be. There are ULs which may, coincidentally,
have a true manifestation, but a true manifestation does not deprive a
UL of its legendary status. However, since many if not most ULs are
false, where possible, I include a comment referring to a true incident,
subject to sufficient evidence, of course.


A DIGRESSION ON URBAN LEGENDS AND "FALSEHOOD"

Occasionally, there is a post to the effect of: "That actually happened
you st*p*d, f*ck*ng, b*st*rds, Jan Harold Brunvand is Polish, the FAQ
list is wrong, the sun rises in the West and it's not an urban legend."
As noted elsewhere in this list and by astute individuals on the net, an
UL does not have to be false. If we take the example of "The Unsolvable
Math Problem" (see below), we find that mathematician George Dantzig is
the probable individual involved. So is this story no longer an UL?
Jan Harold Brunvand addresses this issue thusly:

"Despite finding its [The Unsolvable Math Problem] apparent
origin, I continue to accept anonymous versions as legendary.
Here's why."

"An oral story is a story, whatever its origin. As long as a
story continues to circulate in different variations, partly
by word of mouth, we may regard it as folklore. But probably
'The Unsolvable Math Problem' legend should no longer be
discussed as strictly 'apocryphal,' since we now seem to have
found its source, and the deviations from the original incident
are easily recognized and are not excessive."

- JHB, _Curses! Broiled Again!_, p. 282

Veracity is interesting but far from the only thing when it comes to
the study of urban legends.

MEANWHILE, BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM . . .

I have also begun to collect references to specific volumes of JHB's to
document various classic ULs. This is a slow and on-going process.
Acronyms for Jan Harold Brunvand's books in the list below are:

TVH - _The Vanishing Hitchhiker_
TMP - _The Mexican Pet_
TCD - _The Choking Doberman_
CBA - _Curses! Broiled Again_
TBT - _The Baby Train_

Related newsgroups to consider when posting an article which may be "folklore":
- alt.folklore.computers [guess what this one is about?]
- alt.folklore.science ["Does hot water freeze faster than cold?" Heh.]
- alt.folklore.college [Lots of the same old stuff, but why not?]
- alt.folklore.ghost-stories [A Joel Furr production.]
- sci.skeptic [for those with lots of time on their hands]
- alt.tasteless [frequently more appropriate than not.]
- alt.usage.english [pretty self-explanatory, dontcha think?]
- alt.flame [just a thought else hold that thought]
- alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d [the others are for *pictures* only.]
- alt.religion.kibology [the mother of all newsgroups]
- rec.arts.startrek.misc [Anything about "Lost in Space" will do.]

NOMINATIONS FOR THE OFFICIAL MOTTO OF A.F.U.
[One free clue: if youse post with one of the following in your article,
youse takes youse chances in this newsgroup.]
"It could have happened, so it must be true."
"Sheesh!"
"Sorry to inject some facts into this newsgroup..."
"It COULD have happened so it MUST have happened"
"Bula Vinaka"
"I read it on USE[less]NET so it must be true."
"You st*p*d f*ck*ng b*st*rds..."
"The way I heard it..."
"I read it in the paper..."
"I think it's stupid. We collect all these business cards, and it turns
out nobody wants them."
"Mumpsimus"
"Furrfu!"
"Bzzzzt!"
"No Facts but..."
"And as for the voracity [sic] of the source, this is my GRANDMOTHER
you're talking about."
"True story as far as anyone knows. No particular reason why it should
be doubted."
"I can't vouch for the veracity of your story. But there's enough stupidity
out there that I'll believe it."
"He might have. That alone is enough to prove..."
"Are you saying that some soaps are not detergents but that no detergents
are soaps?" [Happy, Chuck Adams? Sheesh!]
"Well, looking at my couch, I could see how this would happen"
"Excuse me. But can anyone tell me what's going on here?"
"I'm not making this up. I've seen a wargame of the battle of Stalingrad
which includes an optional counter for mine dogs, so it must be true.
"I will not describe it so don't even bother asking me about it."
"My girlfriend has seen people doing this. Sources don't come more reliable."
"If you doubt this crap, Ive [sic] got a copy I could quote."
"I heard the story. It wasn't cocaine, it was a cat."
"Exaggeration makes a better story."
"Yup. I've heard that one too so it must be true."
"I didn't keep any references as I didn't think it would be a subject on AFU."
"I do not post speculation or bullshit to this newsgroup."
"Sounds like bullshit to me."
"I must say, with all due respect, the tone of your reply is typical of
much of the dialog that goes on on this network and newsgroup. Any
apparent weakness or oversight, real or not, becomes the occasion for
an attack on the basic intelligence of the person who reveals it -- in
this case the lecturer whose talk some fifteen years ago I sketchily
summarized."
"I can't remember where I heard that, so it must be true."
"Your intuition is excellent, but another viewpoint could be helpful."
"...you're still wrong, even taking your pedantry at face value."
"Well, this has nothing to do with San Francisco or pus, but..."
"Yes a film of that does exist. Some kids I once knew in high school
once saw it."
"[f]rankly I couldn't give a fig what you all say, this happens[...]"
"Home address and plane fare on request, punk."
"If it isn't true, it should be, and if we could afford it, it would be."
"Why don't you just select your silly MOTTO and get on with it."

AFU MAN OF THE YEAR
- Terry Chan (1991)
- Trelford Pinkerton (1992)
- Phil Gustafson (1993)

SPECULATION ON CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK'S MIDDLE NAME
- "Terry"
- "Tirebiter"
- "Tennessee"
- "Tyrone"
- "Tin-Plated Dictator with Delusions of Godhood"
- "Teriyaki"

OFFICIAL AFU MASCOT
- My pet King snake, Elvis
- Peter's pet dalmatian dog, Pixel
- snopes' pet cat, Snopes
- little gator's non-biological gator, harvee
- Cindy's pet troll, Steinar
- Nigel's pet human, Joel Furr
- Weasels! Weasels! Weasels!

HACK ETYMOLOGIES FOR THE WORD 'POSH'
- Puke On Shoes Here
- Port Out, Starboard Home
- Passed Out, She Hurled
- Post Office: Shergold's Hospital
- Pulmonary -- Oxygenated Supply to Heart
- Port Out, Sherry Home
- Prow Outward, Stern Homeward

OFFICIAL AFU PHOTOGRAPHERS
- Dan Wright and Patrick S. Clark

OFFICIAL FOOD OF AFU
- Chicken Mole'
- Red Velvet Cake
- Poinsettia salad
- Kentucky Fried Chicken
- little gator's Deep Sh*t Cookies

OFFICIAL BIG DIC OF AFU
- The OED or Winston Churchill (tie)

Okay, the major categories are:
- The Misappliance of Science
- The 'Plane Truth (What goes up...)
- Does Not Compute
- Twinkie Twitter
- Mad Medicine
- Wind Powered Fantasies
- Stupid Academia Tricks
- Stupid People Tricks
- What's in a Word?
- Reefer Madness
- How Firm is Your Foundation?
- Kill Your Television!
- Astonishing Antipodean Antics
- Lewd Food
- Snuff Movies
- Upstanding Legends of the Penis and Scrotum
- Hide the Salami
- Disney Dementia (and other amusement park legends)
- Question Authority!
- Legal Beagles
- Wild Life in the Fast Lane
- Legends About Natatory Capabilities of Large Anthropoid Primates
- Astounding Avian Anomalies
- Doggie-Style and Cattie-Wumpus
- Other Animal Crackers
- Arthropod Crackers
- Some References and Credits

Key to one liners below:

T = 100% scientific truth
Tb = believed true, but not conclusively proven
F = 100% falsehood
Ft = A legend, mostly untrue, but with a true occurrence or known origin.
Fb = believed false, but not conclusively proven
U = unanswered and may be unanswerable
P = Maybe it didn't happen, but it's scientifically possible
(used extremely sparingly, where the opposite is expected,
as it could apply to just about every legend)

There is a comment, "*", on certain lines in the FAQ. This indicates
that there is further information on this point available via anonymous
ftp. Thanks to the great generosity of Jason R. Heimbaugh (CatStyle)
and the Grate State of Illinois, the site name is cathouse.org
(128.174.184.32). The subdirectory is /pub/cathouse. For our overseas
folk, Haakon "Cookie Monster" Styri has also established a mirror site at
balder.nta.no (128.39.1.8). The subdirectory is /pub/alt.folklore.urban.
Many thanks for their efforts.

Hint: Grab the file named "Filelist.txt" for a description of what's there.

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THE MISAPPLIANCE OF SCIENCE
F.*You can make as much ice faster by starting with warmer water.
T.*Boiled water freezes faster than ordinary water at same initial temp.
T.*Hot water evaporates while freezing, producing 75% of ice in 90% of time.
See "Hot water freezes faster than cold water. Why does it do so?",
Jearl Walker in The Amateur Scientist, Scientific American, Vol. 237,
No. 3, pp 246-257; September, 1977 and "The Freezing of Hot and Cold
Water", G.S. Kell in American Journal of Physics, Vol. 37, No. 5, pp
564-565; May, 1969.
F. A penny falling from height of Empire State building will embed in pavement.
[Yeah, yeah, it's mentioned in the _Life in Hell_ books]
T. There is no truth to the rumor that James "T." Kirk's middle name is Terry.


F.*Bath water drains the other way round in other hemisphere, due to Coriolis.
T. Coriolis force affects fluids if you take incredible pains to isolate it.

Fb.Microwaving panties kills yeast infections (cold spots in oven...)
F. Coloring your CD's rim with (special) marker will enhance sound quality.
T.*CDs are the size they are because it could hold Beethoven's 9th symphony.
F.*People explode/boil/something in the vacuum of space.
F. Eelskin wallet demagnetizes bank cards (nope, but magnetic clasp might).
F. Daylight sky appears dark enough to see stars from bottom of deep well.
T. Venus and perhaps a few other bright stars/planets can be seen in daylight.
F. Bubbles in bubble wrap contain a cheap, but toxic gas.
U. East German secret police "bug" factory now uses skills to make hearing aids
F. Hot-drying acid-washed jeans "re-activates" the acid(Nope, but might shrink)
F. Ontario Hydro mandated poor installation,so copper fails as often as Alum.
T. Fluorescent lamp will light up when held near high-voltage line.
T. You sure can raise bloody hell asking about physics/chemistry on AFU.
Tb.Fluorescent light will break down vitamins in clear milk containers.
F. Fluorescent lights leach vitamins from your body.
Tb.Leather saddles used to be treated with llama dung to avoid scaring horses
Tb.The spec. for leather saddles got copied for leather jackets...
T. 3M "post-it" notes were invented & marketed as an unofficial project
T.*Subliminal messages in advertising are ineffective, but outlawed anyway.
["Media Sources and Business Legends" in TCD]
T.*...Ted Frank posted cite of USA law.
U. Filamentous phage M13 obtained from lab's letter rejecting the transfer!
T. Long term storage of paper in a PVC envelope is harmful (fumes degrade it).
T. Some combinations of metal tooth fillings can receive radio signals.
F. Printer/copier toner is carcinogenic. [But be careful about breathing it.]
F.*The moon is larger near the horizon than up in the sky due to refraction.
T.*The above is due to an optical illusion.
T.*Indiana House Bill #246 of 1897 would've set pi=3.2, killed in state Senate.
Fb.Some state (e.g., Kansas) once considered a bill setting pi = 3.
F. US and Russia won't destroy their cultures of smallpox for fear of bio- war.
Fb.People only use 10% of their brain capacity (whatever that means).
F. If the entire population of China jumped up at the same time: a) the Earth's
orbit would be disturbed, b) the entire US would be swamped by a tidal wave.
Fb.If all the Chinese screamed at the same time, people in the US could hear it
U. This message is costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
T. There was a natural nuclear reaction in Africa long ago [NOT an explosion.]
F. Swimming right after eating will cause cramps and you'll drown.
F. Squeezing out the air from a partially consumed soda bottle will keep soda
from going flat.
F. There are workmen who died building Hoover Dam and were entombed in it.
F. There is a pillar in India made of metal found nowhere else in the world.
Tb.Tomatoes are not vegetables, they're berries. [Thanks, Scott C.]
Tb.Women workers in old watch factories got poisoning by licking brushes used
for applying radium compound to watch faces.
U. Deckard was a replicant. [I don't care about the "Director's Cut."]
F. Large telescope mirrors often become distorted due to glass flow.
F. You can see glass flow in the windows of old buildings.
Tb.MRI used to be called "Nuclear MRI", but "N" was dropped due to nuke fear.
T. Nobody except Doug Spindler came up with any good stuff on the origins
of Daylight Saving Time.
U. "Trekkies" are controlling the minds of everyone on the net.
Fb.A newspaper spellchecker sub'd "In the African-American" for "in the black."
F.*Welding while wearing contacts can cause them to stick to your eyeballs.
F. NASA sends Swiss watchmakers very thin threads of gold; they send back
drilled w/holes. [Similar story w/Japan and US.]
T. Marvin Minsky once followed up to a post by Peter van der Linden.
F.-Standing a hard-boiled egg on end has something to do with an equinox.
F.-There was a "Philadelphia Experiment" that tried to make stuff invisible.
T. Give Bill Nelson an order of magnitude or two.
F. You'll probably die if your skin is coated w/paint, but not of asphyxiation.

THE 'PLANE TRUTH (WHAT GOES UP...)
T. 800ft diameter asteroid passed within 500K miles of hitting earth in 1989.
T. Confused pilots occasionally land on tiny strip short of correct airport.
T. F51D plane can flip due to engine torque.(A. Frisbie posted pilot's manual!)
Tb.US Govt fixed plane transponders always report positions(catch drug imports)
T. Airforce/manufacturers tests planes by firing chickens from special cannon.
Tb Cessna planes aren't sold in the US anymore due to threat of liability suits
T. Beechcraft and Mooney still make & sell planes in the US however...
T. Pilot can discreetly signal a hijack by setting the transponder to "7500"
Tb.Leave flaps down when off the active as a request for armed intervention!!
F. The Great Wall of China can be seen with the naked eye from the moon.
T. Many manmade structures can be seen with the naked eye from Earth orbit.
F. Shuttle crew did secret experiment on how to make love in zero gravity.
Tb.Jet lag is exacerbated by alcohol consumption.
T. Parachute mishap brought down a Cessna (gently) on a novice's parachute.
F. Airlines use a gas to keep passengers mildly sedated and less troublesome.
U. Similar story of lowering cabin pressure below usual.
Fb.Both pilots on airliner end up locked out of cockpit in lavatory mixup.
["Death and Danger in the Air" in CBA]
U. In 90% of plane crashes, the words "Oh sh*t!" appear on the flight recorder.
Fb.Another passenger arrives for full plane; airline employee Gay must give up
his seat. Someone else answers yes to "Are you Gay?"; Gay says "*I'm* Gay";
more passengers chime in that they're gay and "They can't kick us all off."


DOES NOT COMPUTE
T. Computers have been stolen.
T. Apple use a Cray to design hardware systems; Cray use an Apple...
T. Prodigy grabs large sectors of the disk, containing data from deleted files.
F. Prodigy slyly reads your disk & nefariously uploads your top secrets to IBM.
F. Stories about Seymour Cray's strange hobbies (annual boat burning etc).
F.*The FCC is proposing a modem tax (Nope, the proposal died in 1987).
T. Bill Gates has $750K Porsche 959 he can't use;no type compliance,no license!
U. New computer system "lost" a Montgomery Ward Calif warehouse for 3 years...
T. "q=q++;" is an undefined statement under ANSI C(same object modified twice).
T. Calling "#" a pound sign as in common US parlance really riles some folks up
T. "#" is frequently referred to as a "hash" mark outside the US.
F. Russian/Chinese mechanical translator translates "out of sight, out of mind"
into "blind and insane". Also "Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak"
as "the drink is good but the meat is rotten."
U. IBM ordered a whole bunch of "THIMK" games; but printer changed to "THINK".
...a.B. Mayers claims to have dug up a receipt for same. Getting close.
T. In 1947 a moth was found in a relay of the Harvard Mark II machine, and
taped into the logbook as the "first actual case of bug being found".
T. The log book used to be in building 1200 "K-lab" of the Naval Surface
Warfare Center, Dahlgren Division. Now at the Smithsonian MoAH.
F. Grace Hopper coined the term "bug" as a result of this event.
T. Grace Hopper was a programmer for the Mark II and often told the moth story.
T. "Bug" was used to mean a design defect as far back as Edison's time.
T. If you feel a need to finger a coke machine,try finger co...@g.gp.cs.cmu.edu


TWINKIE TWITTER
T. "animal or vegetable shortening" on ingredients list == LARD
F. Hostess snacks (Twinkies, Cupcakes, etc.) aren't baked! They set,like jello
Fb.Twinkies eat mold... If mold grows on a twinkie, the twinkie digests it...
T. There really were chocolate "iced" Twinkies.
F. Singer John Denver served as a sniper in Vietnam (poss. his dad was).
T. David DeLaney sure has lots of free time.


MAD MEDICINE
T. London doctor struck off for inveigling Turkish peasants to donate a kidney.
F.*Dr. C. Drew, a plasma researcher; bleeds to death when hospital turns him
(a black man) away. [Similar story with death of Blues great Bessie Smith.]
U. Hypnosis is a fake! Net says "Yes, no, zzzz". [But does remove warts.]
F. Flowers are bad in hospital rooms because they suck oxygen out of air.
F. Taking baking soda as an antacid is bad 'cause CO2 can rupture your stomach.
U. Woman had "tree in the bedina" -- potato used as pessary, sprouted...
U. Woman had "Smiling Mighty Jesus" -- spinal meningitis.
U. Woman had "sick as hell anemia" -- sickle cell anemia
U. Woman named child "Nosmo King" after sign on delivery room door.
F. There is a special ward for "Newky Brown" addicts in Newcastle General
F.*Person's hair turns entirely white "overnight" from stress.
T. Some people sneeze when exposed to bright light ("photic sneeze effect").
Tb.You can catch diseases (crabs, lice, herpes, VD, etc) from public toilets.
Tb.Patient died when intravenously given Kaopectate.
U. FDA approval causes cancer.
T. Yes, we've heard of Coca-cola as a douche, but if you're that desperate,
you're in big trouble.
Tb.Drinking large quantities of deionized/distilled water over a long period
of time can screw you up due to ion imbalances.
F. Hair/nails continue to grow after death.
T. They appear to as the corpse shrinks.
F. Woman sees doc with irritated eye. Sez a male stripper rubbed his pouch in
her eye. Doc checks and removes a louse from it.
F. "Ear lobe" repair is booming in NYC because thieves rip earrings off women.
F. Thugs hide under cars in malls and cut ankles of women returning to cars.
[Above two in TBT.]
Tb.Rat(s) eat face of child while child is near adult in poor side of town.
F. An autopsy reveals big hairballs in lungs of a man who breathed in bits
of hair while he worked, and thus suffocated him.
T. RT's wife's small hair ball nearly killed her. And she's got a big scar.
F. Girl dies of big hairball in stomach from chewing on ends of her braids.
[Above two in "The Hair Ball" in TMP.]
F. Mime has heart attack during act. People think it's part of act; he dies.
Tb.Reported to have happened to Dick Shawn, known comic actor.
F. B.F. Skinner's daughter died/committed suicide/sued because of she was
reared in a Skinner box/special crib.
Fb.Left-handed people have shorter life spans than righties.
Fb.Women/people shouldn't sit on cold cement or metal 'cause it might hurt
their plumbing or cause piles.
F. You can catch a cold by being chilled.


WIND-POWERED FANTASIES
T. Fin-de-siecle Frenchman,Petomane,got rich farting as music hall act.Fartist.
U. Blowback (blowforward?) from ignited fart, singed frat-boy's intestines.
U. Vet cut vent-hole in cow's flank, lit escaping gases, burned down barn...
Tb.A patient's intestine explodes from cauterization during surgery due to gas.
T. A patient's intestine exploded during a colotomy.


STUPID ACADEMIA TRICKS
NOTE: Many university-based ULs are passed continually. Before posting, check
out the references below and in Appendix B of JHB's textbook which has a
survey of academe ULs by Barre Toelken.
Also check out the alt.folklore.college FAQ list which used this list as
a base and has been regularly maintained by Ted Frank.
T. Prof lists famous unsolved problems;student thought it was homework- solved!
(Student was George Dantzig.) ["The Unsolvable Math Problem" in CBA.]
Fb.Student cheats on exam,asks "do you know who I am?",jams paper in exam pile!
["Bluebook Legends" in TMP]
Fb.Professor jostled; misses watch;grabs back from jostler; later finds at home
[Variation of "The Jogger's Billfold" in TCD]
F. College roommate commits suicide, gets you an automatic "A" for courses.
["The Suicide Rule" in CBA.]
T. Student gets tuition $ by asking for $0.01 from each person via newspaper.
Tb.Students find rolled-up carpet; take and unroll in dorm room to find body.
Fb.Student kills self during exam by putting 2 pencils in nose and hitting desk
T. People's lawn gnomes/elves stolen; owners were sent letter/pics from exotic
locations with the ornament. ["Roaming Gnomes" in CBA]
T. Famous UL researcher misspells the subtitle of a Star Trek film in a book.
F. Two co-eds alone in dorm; one goes to study; other in room; roomie hears
heavy dragging sounds; blocks door; hears scratches; waits til morning;
opens door to find other co-ed with ax in head who was scratching for help.
["The Roommate's Death" in TVH and TMP]
Fb.Students buy a barber pole and drive the town. Stopped continually by police
F. Girl is alone at home/dorm with dog; sleeps; hears noise and a dripping
sound; is frightened but reaches to dog and feels a lick; goes back to
sleep. In morning, finds dog hanged in shower and note under bed which
says "humans can lick too." ["The Licked Hand" in TCD]
Fb.Prof. gives "announced" quiz to surprised class after putting ad in paper.
Fb.Prof. allows students to "bring in what they can carry for exam"; student
carrys in a grad student" (variation on allowing use of "Feynman").
Fb.Prof. nails exam thief by cutting bottom 0.5" of exam to find longer answer.
Fb.Philosophy prof.'s 1 word exam: "Why?" "A" to student who replies "Why not?"
[Many, many variations].
Fb.Low grading prof. grades same exam in successive semesters; gives higher
grade each time. 4th time around (or so), writes: "Like it more each time".
[Version with drawing of a whale.]
Fb.Prof. lectures class on sugar content of ejaculate. Girl then asks "Why
does it taste so salty then?" Runs out of class amidst laughter.
Fb.Science class students take swab from inside of cheek and examine under
microscope. One group sees odd organisms and calls prof. who looks and
declares that it's sperm.
Fb.Student submits 20 yr old paper for class; prof. gives "A"; says he always
liked it but he only got a "B" when he wrote it. [The above 6 are in
"College Con Artists and How They Operate" in CBA]
T. Prof. Donald "Art of Computer Programming" Knuth's 1st publication was in
MAD mag. (MAD #33 "The Potrzebie system of weights and measures")
F. Frat holds blood drive. Some grossly high % of frat donors are HIV positive.
T. There seems to be quite a few university buildings named after Kresge.
Fb.Prof. demos test for diabetes by dipping finger in several flasks of urine
and then licking it. Then asks students to do same. They do, after which
he says he dipped with one finger and licked with the other.
Fb.alt.folklore.college is dead.
Fb: Co-ed responds to "quizzy" announcement with fear of "testies", blushes.

STUPID PEOPLE TRICKS
T.*Craig Shergold, UK cancer kid,sought get-well cards,overwhelmed with 33 mil.
T.*Craig Shergold, UK health plan wouldn't operate;Kluge paid;tumor was benign!
T.*Lousy quality CS GIF courtesy of Phil Kernick available via anonymous ftp.
T. Craig Shergold's 13th birthday was June 24, 1992.From now June 24 is AFUday.
T. His name has been misspelled several times in various pleas.
T. But he sure as heck doesn't want or need any more cards now.
T.*See _The Guinness Book of Records 1992_, p. 207.4 for his listing.
T.*See 19 July 1990 _NY Times_ (p. 24), _People_ magazine 10 June 1991, p. 63.
T.*Check the afu anonymous ftp site for sources and references.
T.*Cards that are sent to the hospital no longer go to him.
T. A variation of the above now includes a call for business cards.
[Classic American UL in this genre is "Postcards for Little Buddy" in CBA]
T. There was a version involving bar codes which was a hoax.
Tb.Craig Shergold lives in an "unsalubrious" section of town, but
...John Slater doesn't think Craig live in an "unsalubrious" area anymore.
Tb.Craig voted on the folklore rmgroup from Craig_s...@vms.cis.pitt.edu.
U. Errol Flynn was invited to "black tie" party; went nude,except for black tie
U. Ed Zotti is Cecil Adams, or Marilyn vos Savant, or Isaac Asimov, or....
T. Some, one, or all of the above reads AFU.
T. Some beggars with "will work for food" signs are just extra sympathy scams.
T.*People have been injured by rocking a vending machine that falls on them.
Fb.Man's house demolished after friend placed ad in paper for a joke.
Fb.US GI captures Iraqi soldier - they knew each other from Chicago.
F. Special chemical for swim pools, turns bright color on contact with urine.
F. "3 Men & a Baby" has a scene with a real ghost in it.
Fb.Wife sprays toilet with flammable bug spray, husband shits, smokes, explodes
Wife sprays toilet with flammable hair spray, you know the rest, etc.
["Hilarious Accidents" in TMP. Variations in TVH.]
Fb*Aluminum ring pull tabs are collected & exchanged for dialysis machine time.
["Redemption Rumors" in TMP]
T. ...Some places or people (e.g., The Ronald McDonald House in Rochester, MN)
do collect tabs for their scrap value and raise $$ for various causes.
T. The MN connection has been noted by many people. One of the better and
more recent articles was posted by Sarah Skovronsky.
F. Chanting "Mary Worth" before a mirror summons dead spirit at slumber parties
...Related to famous La Llorona legend? ["I Believe in Mary Worth" in TMP]
Fb.Male athlete cheats drug test with wife's pee; test shows he's pregnant.
T. Infirm, elderly, obese alcoholics have set themselves on fire occasionally.
F. People occasionally spontaneously combust and burn to death. Whoompfh!
F. Cabbage Patch dolls are possessed by the devil.
F. Kid sends broken Cabbage Patch dolls sent back. Death certificate sent back.
["The Cabbage Patch Tragedy" in TMP]
Fb.Couple stays in odoriferous hotel room;informed next day of body in mattress
F. Someone is crushed to death trying to shrink blue jeans by wearing in tub.
["Product Defect and Liability Legends" in TCD]
F.*Tourists' room is burgled, later finds snaps of "toothbrush up thief's ass".
["Indecent Exposure" in TBT]
F. Two guys see kid fishing; kid says fish aren't biting but worms are; on way
back; they discover kid slumped over; worms were baby water moccasins!
["The Can of Snakes" in TMP]
Fb.Child's foot/leg is amputated after pumping Reeboks shoes too tight.
T. For some reason, some folks kill snakes by grabbing tail and "snapping" them
T. "Chicken sexing" is big business. Started by Asian family.
T."little gator" S. Mudgett is mentioned in one of Cecil's books.
F. Folks find casks of wine in cellar of old house. Tap and drank from several
of them. Later, preserved body of original house owner found in cask.
[Body in the cask motif may find some basis in old story of Admiral Nelson
of Battle of Trafalgar. His body was shipped back in wine/rum cask. Upon
arrival in UK, cask was low/empty. "The body in the cask" in TCD.]
Tb.Nautical saying: "Tapping the Admiral" is based on the above.
F. Boyfriend tells girlfriend they're through and she should leave when he
leaves on a long trip. He returns to find phone off the hook connected to
the "time" recording in Japan/some far away place.
["The Lover's Telephone Revenge" in CBA]
F. Helicopter fights forest fires by scooping water from lake. Charred body
of scuba diver found in ashes. ["Death and Danger in the Air" in CBA]
F. Fat person on ship/airline toilet has intestines sucked out due to vacuum.
T. A similar accident happened to a little girl who sat on a wading pool
drain in North Carolina happened on 26 June 1993 [she didn't die].
U. Brian "Allah Mode" Scearce manages the "Hors de Combat" female mudwrestlers.
Fb.Some guy in a foreign country teaches the locals that a certain obscene
handsign (to him) was actually a welcoming gesture. Locals all pose for
pictures while making the gesture.
F. Woman on bus raises a man's hand and asks "Who does it belong to? It was
on my butt." Several red-faced men get off at next stop.
T. Jan Harold Brunvand's son, Erik, teaches at UU and even read a.f.u. Sheesh!
T.*There's a gif of Jan Harold Brunvand available via anonymous ftp.
F. Halloween sadists randomly give poisoned candy to children.
T. A Texas child was poisoned by his father on Halloween in 1974.
[Above two are in "Halloween Sadists" in CBA]
F. Woman frequents tanning salons; develops funny smell; innards cooked!
["Curses! Broiled Again" in _CBA_]
T. A guy goes a-shooting at Saguaro cacti; hits one. It falls and kills him!
["The Plant's Revenge" in _CBA_]
F. Someone couldn't call for help because they couldn't dial the "11" in "911".
["Dial 911 for Help" in TCD]
T. Lots of people comment on the FAQ list without actually reading it.
Tb.People were once frequently mistaken for dead and were buried alive.
Tb.Edison's last breath is kept in a jar in Michigan. (Well, sort of).
Tb.Elvis lives near Palo Alto, works for Sun, and speaks w/an English accent.
Fb.Co-ed loses tampon inside prior to blind date; worried; sees school intern;
is acutely embarrassed. Her date turns out to be the intern!
Fb.Young man buys condom from pharmacist; he's embarrassed so boasts of date.
He picks her up, pharmacist/dad answers the door! ["The Blind Date" in TMP]
F. Bride at big wedding thanks each person, then thanks groom for sleeping
w/maid-of-honor. Then throws bouquet, etc. ["The Bothered Bride" in TMP]
F. Kid in Michael Jackson's commercial breaks neck and dies from: breakdancing,
OD, hit by motorcycle. Kid is Alfonse Ribera. Rumored of many TV kids.
[See "Michael Jackson's Dancing Partner" inTMP]
F. First 7 numbers on bar code of "Thriller" album is Michael Jackson's phone.
["Michael Jackson's Telephone Number" in TMP]
F.*Phil Collins' song "In the Air Tonight" is about a death witnessed by Phil.
T. ...Sheesh! This was even debunked in _Parade_ magazine.
T. Crotch seam rivet in original Levi's dropped due to pain from standing near
fires.
F. Several suburban white women visit big city. They nervously enter elevator
which has a black man and a dog.He says "Sit Lady!" They promptly sit on the
floor but he was talking to the dog!
T. ...UL ends w/free dinner, roses, or tickets to concert for ignorant women.
T. ...Guys mentioned include Reggie Jackson, Wilt Chamberlain, Lionel Ritchie,
...Eddie Murphy, O.J. Simpson, Joe Greene and Magic Johnson.
T. ...There is an amusing variant about the English parliament (look it up).
T. ...Older version:woman stuck in an elevator where two black men piss on her.
[Above five are in "The Elevator Incident" in CBA.]
Fb.Some famous artist (Picasso/DaVinci/etc.] wants a new piece of furniture
or furniture to be moved. Draws sketch for workman; who says no charge
for the artist if he can keep the sketch.
F. Couple hires hippie-type babysitter. Later, mother calls and sitter says
everything is fine; she's stuffed the turkey and put it in the oven.
Mom worries since they don't have an turkey; parents rush home and find
that stoned sitter has (or is about to) put baby in the (microwave) oven.
["The Hippie-Babysitter" in TVH.]
F. "Clever" babysitter stops baby crying by holding its head in oven.
["The Clever Babysitter" in TMP]
U. A plain-Jane coed invited to special night out by a BMOC. As she gets ready,
has bad gas from lunch. Date arrives;so plans to fart in car before he gets
in. She farts and quickly rows down window. Date gets in, says,"I'd like you
to meet Tom and Mary in the backseat." ["The Fart in the Dark" in TVH.]
Fb.Family visits wilderness park. They see bears and want to get "cute pics"
of bear w/child so they smear honey on his cheek. Bear eats child's face.
F. Bride's father at wedding goes to pay band, but wallet is missing and has
to take up collection from guests. Later viewing of wedding video shows
groom's father lifting bride's father's wallet! ["Sex Scandals" in TCD]
Tb.Some guys who make $ recycling aluminum strip a house with new siding.
Tb.People (mostly guys) have been electrocuted pissing on a subway's 3rd rail.
T. Common UL mills include Dear Abby, Ann Landers, and Paul Harvey.
F. Woman lighting fire opens door w/hot poker;robber at door sees and grabs it!
(Var. where woman is holding a knife). ["The Robber Who was Hurt" in TCD]
U. People who feel the need to argue that 1 Jan 2000 is or is not the start
of the 21st century need to get a life.
F. Clocks are commonly displayed at 8:18/8:20/10:10 because that's when JFK
or Abraham Lincoln was shot.
T. The song "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted.
F. ...Paul McCartney owns the rights.
T. "Dave Rhodes" letter asking for money is bogus.
Fb.Some guy who works at a factory takes home a part a day until some time
later he has a Cadillac/tank/truck.
Tb.Putting a sleeping person's hand in water will cause him/her to pee for
some people but not for others.


WHAT'S IN A WORD?
[Try checking out the OED and the Dictionary of American Regional English
for etymological history; _The Penguin Dictionary of Historical Slang_,
by Eric Partridge (abridged by Jacqueline Simpson). Penguin books. For
you other types, there's always alt.usage.english.]
F.*The etymology of the 4-letter word "f*ck" is an acronym of old. [e.g.
"Fornication Under Consent of the King.]
T. Lord knows, there're lots of variations of initials/names for "Jesus Christ"
F. 'HAL' in the film "2001: A Space Odyssey" was derived from letters for "IBM"
Tb.The expression "86" (to put the kibosh on), originated in 1920s diner slang.
T. A.J.Balfour appt'd Secretary Ireland by Uncle Bob.Nepotism? Bob's your uncle
T. JF Kennedy said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Could be either "I am a native of
Berlin" or "I am a jelly doughnut." Berliners knew what he was talking about
T. Hebrew was considered as official language of the US. [Guess what happened?]
F.*German was once within one or two votes of becoming the official US language
T. Fijian on the AT&T ad says ""Bula vinaka, beachside!" ("hello, thanks").
T. Many languages don't pronounce foreign words/phrases as they really are.
Fb.US Civil War Gen. Hooker is the source for a common term for streetwalkers.
Tb....Though he may have helped popularize it.
F.*Thomas Crapper invented the flush toilet.
T.*Thomas Crapper did exist and made improvements to modern flushing mechanisms
T. M. Gardner said that Crapper was bogus. But retracted it in one of his books.
F.*The word 'crap' is derived from Thomas Crapper.
F. Otto Titzling invented the brassiere.
F.*The words to "Louie, Louie" are dirty.[Thanks to Maiko Covington for lyrics]
F. Eskimos have some megaboss number of words for snow.
F.*"Posh" is from "Port Out, Starboard Home" from Colonial English days.
T.*"Hamburgers" and "Frankfurters" are named after cities in Germany.
T.*"In like Flynn" is from Errol Flynn's acquittal on statutory rape charges.
T.*"Okay" or "OK" is originally from a misspelling fad: "Oll Korrect" (all
correct); popularized by "Old Kinderhook" Van Buren in election campaign.
T. The du Pont Co. has claimed (1940) that "nylon" was an arbitrary coinage,
but also (1978) that it was a modification of "no run" spelled backwards.
F. Jack Kerouac wrote that "Pig" stands for "Protector of Immutable Government"
T. "Futhark" is an acronym.
F. "Furrfu" honors Joel Furr, who flamed a proposed rmgrouping of
alt.folklore.computers to ashes in late 1992.
F. The song "Puff the Magic Dragon" is about smoking pot or Vietnam war weapon.
T. Paul Tomblin maybe divorced but he sure talks about his ex-wife a lot.
Tb.Fred Ennis will never be as snide as Paul Tomblin.
T. Winston Churchill once said something memorable.
T. There is no good etymology for the phrase "The whole nine yards."
T. Suggestions have included: Volume in a concrete mixer, coal truck, or
a wealthy person's grave; amount of cloth in a man's custom-made (i.e.,
"bespoke") suit, sports games, funeral shroud, kilt, or in a bolt of cloth.
T.*Studies indicate that the majority of US currency has traces of cocaine.


HOW FIRM IS YOUR FOUNDATION?
T. David Johnston read AFU for *9* months before posting. BFD.
F. Building is built backwards. Public criticizes; Architect commits suicide.
Tb.There have been buildings built backwards.
F. Various university libraries sink; books heavier than architect thought!
F. Same as above, but pool not library, weight of water, not books.
Ft.Lots of bldgs (malls, etc.) are sinking into the ground as we post!
[See "Back to the Drawing Board--Some Architectural Legends" in CBA]
T. Some universities, cities are riddled with semi-secret utility tunnels.
T. Clouds and other weather can transpire in the upper parts of high structures
Fb.RC Church building plans reviewed by Pope/Vatican; response was "we are not
angels"; plans had no loos!
Fb.Bldg collapses due to gas explosion from buried dead elephant under it.
T. Soldiers break step when marching over bridges (trivially observed).
U. Bridge falls down if soldiers don't break step when marching over.
Fb.Bridge falls down due to resonance if soldiers don't break step marching
over. Broughton suspension bridge, England, 14 April 1831, fell under
soldiers march, but prob just overloaded, not resonating. Mark Brader
posted Times story!
F. Otherwise sound bridge falls down if soldiers don't break step marching
over. (There have been no documented instances of this)
F. Arizona resorts are prewired for slot machines should gambling be okay'd.
F. Young woman meets beau's family for 1st time. During dinner, she has to
take a leak and asks where the bathroom is. She goes in, but finds it's
a bathroom w/no toilet! She looks around, can't find it. Being desperate
and embarassed, she stands on sink to do it. Family hears loud crash and
run to find that she's unconscious/bleeding/but okay. Sink collapsed!
T. Lotsa university buildings constructed in the 1960s look like prisons.

KILL YOUR TELEVISION!
F. "Newlywed Game" husband televised response that the strangest place they
made love was "That'd be the butt, Bob."
T. Brian Gordon posted Bob Eubanks interview where Bob offers $10K for proof.
T. Dave Filippi posted similar account heard on Boston area radio (WBCN).
T. Many people claim to have seen it. Bill McCauley claims to have a tape.
T. Robert Huss claims to have seen it but says the common quote is "wrong."
T. Chris Johns claims to have seen Chuck Barris say it was true on CNBC.
F.*The UK cartoon series "Cpt. Pugwash" had character names w/double entendres.
T. Many people claim to have seen and heard these too. What a coincidence!
T. ...Gif of the Captain available at cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu.
T. Woman has epileptic seizures upon hearing Mary Hart's [ET anchor] voice.
F. "Gilligan's Island" was never a real TV show.
Tb.Parents get a video for children. Find it was recorded over old porn tape!
T. CA assembly considering a law to ban the splicing of porn onto rented tapes.
F. Johnny Carson said he'd pet Zsa Zsa's pussy if she'd move her cat.
F. JC said to Jack Nicklaus' wife that her kissing his balls before a golf game
must "make his putter flutter." (Sometimes about Arnold Palmer.)
F. JC gave out his AT&T card number for free calls since he won big settlement.
[Or Steve McQueen/Paul Newman/Sammy Davis,Jr/Robert Redford/Burt Reynolds.]
F. David Letterman tells audience to say "Hi" to Paul Shaffer 'cause his
contract says his butt can't be shown on TV.
[Above four from "Talk Show Tales - 'Dave's Behind' in CBA]
T. Charles Lasner still lives in the '60s and talks turkey.
F.*Kid tells Bozo the Clown to "shove it"/etc. after kid drops egg in game.
F.*Bozo interviews kids on show. One kid says "Cram it, clown!" Is removed.
F.*Some kid's talk show host says "That ought to shut the little bastards up!"
on live TV/radio. [Above three from 'Bozo the Clown's Blooper' in TMP]
T. Yes, yes, I've heard of Uncle Don and Kermit Schaeffer.
F.*Soupy Sales was canned for telling kids to send him pieces of paper with
pictures of dead presidents from their parents' dresser drawers on his show.
T.*He was suspended for a week.
F. Jan or Cindy Brady actress was a porn star.
F. Some muppet on Sesame Street is going to be snuffed.
Tb.Jeff Davis is a hit man for a Top 40 radio station.


REEFER MADNESS
[The alt.drugs FAQ list has lots of interesting info.]
F.*"Blue star" or cartoon character (esp. Mickey Mouse) tattoos laced with LSD
is sold at schools <Important!> to hook kids on acid.
T.*This UL is frequently spread via poorly typed/copied fliers.
T.*LSD has been sold on blotter paper with cartoon characters.
["Blue Star Acid" in CBA and "Mickey Mouse Acid" in TCD. See also Dave
Gross's definitive periodic posting.]
Fb.Person high on drugs stares at sun -- gets partial blindness.
T. Check in Medline in December 1992 shows no such case reported.
F. Aspirin and Coca-Cola taken together get you high. (Nope.May cause insomnia)
T. Phil Kernick thinks it does work on him, but that's Oz for you.
U. More than 4 hits of acid in one month renders you legally insane.
F. Tobacco cos. prepared to market/mfg joints if pot was legalized in '60s/'70s
T. You can beat any drug test (in a Zen way) by not taking the test.
U. Guy on pot pulled over by police. Asked if he knew his speed. Was 5 mph!
F. LSD accumulates in the brain and spinal column and shows up on x-rays.
Fb.McDonald's coffee stirrers changed; they were used by cocaine sniffers.
["Mickey Mouse Acid" in TCD]
F.*Banana peels and peanut shells contain hallucinogenic substances.
F.*"Street" acid (LSD) is frequently cut with strychnine.
U. D.M. Procida actually knew Adolf Hitler's grandmamma.


ASTONISHING ANTIPODEAN ANTICS
F. Some part of Australia is antipodal to some part of N. America or Europe.
T. Cane toads are now a plague, originally imported to eat cane beetles.
F. Koalas are always stoned/drunk, as they eat alcohol in eucalyptus leaves.
Fb.Koalas, being filled with eucalyptus oil, "explode" in bushfires. [Rats!]
F. Kangaroos deliver the mail in the outback.
U. "Goanna Oil" dissolves muscle protein. Goannas are large native lizards.
U. Driver fools tourists in Milford tunnel bus,says motorbike is oncoming train
U. Dingos eat babies. Australian courts say YES, NO, YES.
Fb.Aussies put vegemite under eyelids to get high. Yum!
T. Some New Zealanders do not think very highly of Australians.
T. There sure are lots of stories about Vegemite. [Why not Marmite?]
U. Derek "I really need to get a TV" Tearne and Hugh Grierson.'Nuff said!
F. Rights to "Waltzing Matilda" are owned by an American, hence not anthem.
T. "Chooks" taste like chicken.
T. Tasmanian devils are not extinct. Whoopee.


LEWD FOOD
T. There're kosher Chinese restaurants in and around big East Coast US cities.
T. Most mass-market beers contain "foaming agents" to make them form a head.
U. Eating lots of chicken fast food causes males to grow breasts (from hormones
T. Eggs and chicken are horribly contaminated, and should NOT be eaten raw.
T. Unless marked "dairy", fast food shakes aren't milk: mostly carrageen gel.
T. Lead leaches from lead crystal decanters into drinks; is not good for you.
F. Eating carrots may improve night vision, because of large amounts of Vit A.
Tb.Microwaved food is better (other cooking allegedly creates carcinogens)
Tb.Eating celery takes more energy than its digestion yields.
U. Mick Jagger used a Mars bar as a dildo on nubile pop loon Marianne Faithful.
F,T,T,U.Fast food places use unusual ingredients: worm, 'roo meat, seaweed, rat.
["'The Kentucky Fried Rat' and Other Nasties" in TVH]
F. Stranger at restaurant eats your cookies, you grab, later find you took his.
["The Packet of Biscuits" in TCD. Douglas Adams claims this really happened
to him. Also a variant w/Kit Kat bars.]
F.*Cook cheated into buying Mrs Fields' recipe, gets revenge by spreading it.
["The Mrs. Fields Cookie Recipe" in CBA. This is probably a descendant of
the "Red Velvet Cake" UL in TVH. Another version involves Nieman-Marcus
and many other noted retail establishments.]
F. Green M&M's ("Smarties" in UK; Canada has both) are an aphrodisiac.
F. Red M&M's are a carcinogen (Nope, they used red dye #5,not dangerous #2)
[Both M&M legends are in "Green M&Ms" in TMP]
F. Ingesting a tapeworm will help you slim, so people do this regularly
["'Bosom Serpent' Legends" in TCD.]
T. Many CIA (and other gov't) snackbars are staffed by blind people.
F. They're hired to help maintain secrecy.
F. Grape seeds can get caught in your appendix and give you appendicitis.
T. Steven Bellovin thinks diverticulitis may be source of this UL.
T. British army doses water with bromide (for purification), soldiers say it's.
U. ...to suppress soldiers' libidos. US Army salts their peters with saltpeter.
Fb.Kennedy family made their pile thru a Scotch import monopoly
Tb.Kennedy family made their pile thru smuggling Scotch during prohibition.
F. The red leaves of Poinsettias (aka the Xmas Plant) are deadly poisonous.
["The Poinsettia Myth" in TMP.]
T. Poinsettia sap and leaves are irritants and may harm small children.
T. People have been poisoned by eating food cooked on burning oleander branches
Tb.Asparagus stinks up pee, but ability to smell it is genetically inherited.
T. Fresh seeds from plants of rose family react to form cyanide in the body.
T. Lots of Asian restaurants have humorous names to English speakers.
F. Mikey (Life cereal) exploded from eating Pop Rocks with soda (You wish!)
["The Death of Little Mikey" in TCD]
F.*A popular Mexican beer (esp. Corona) was made with urine.
F.*Snapple supports Operations Rescue and/or the KKK.
F.*Tropical Fantasy causes sterility in black men.
T. Some people like to eat the placenta (aka afterbirth) of their children.
F. Shampoos and foreign beauty aids are made from aborted babies.
["The Secret Ingredient" in TMP]
F. Couple travels to exotic locale with pet dog. Eatery prepares it for them.
["Food and Restaurant Rumors and Legends"/"Unfortunate Pet Legends", TCD]
F. Ethnic eateries (Chinese/E. Indian/Italian) use cat/dog/human meat instead
of expected meat.["The Eaten Pets"/"Further Ethnic Stereotype Legends,"TMP]
F. Cantaloupes are infected with salmonella and are thus bad to eat.
F. Snake hidden in imported fruit (bananas, pineapple, etc.) bites/kills some-
one. ["The Snake in the Greens" in TBT]
T.*Woman removes label from "tuna" can, finds cat food label underneath.
T.*The cat food actually was tuna canned 6 years earlier in Canada, declared
unfit for human consumption, allowed to be exported as pet food, and then
illegally relabeled as tuna again. (Toronto Star, March 24, 1992)
Fb.In pre-revolutionary Paris, peasants resold food from restaurant garbage.
T. Vegemite (and Marmite) is made from yeast by-products, salt, and other stuff
Fb.Cannibalism was a common means of sustenance for past cultures.
F. "Instant" ramen noodles are coated w/wax and can cause intestinal blockage.
Fb.Drinking alcoholic beverages through a straw makes one drunker faster.
Tb.Carbonation in whisky and soda makes one drunk faster than a straight whisky
F. Marco Polo brought pasta back to Italy from the Chinese.
T. Spinach has no more iron than other vegetables; UL due to misplaced decimal.
F.*People eat chocolate because it gives them the same feeling as being in love
F. Chocolate makes people horny.
T. Some McDonald's do give free soft drink refills. There may not be signs tho.
F. Peeling labels off a beer bottle means you're: a) a virgin, b) gonna get
lucky, c) sexually frustrated.
F. Eating hot bread is bad for you (alcohol, stomach upset, etc.)
Tb.Don't use fresh/frozen pineapple, Kiwi fruit, or maggots to make Jell-O.
Tb.The Chinese characters for "Coca-cola" could sound like those for "bite the
wax tadpole."
Fb.The old Chevy Nova was a failure in Spanish speaking countries because it
translates to "No go."
Tb.Pepsi had a similar episode where "Come Alive with Pepsi!" is rendered as
"Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the dead!"
Tb.Certain Eng. documentaries notwithstanding, spaghetti doesn't grow on trees.
T. Some English beers contain fish guts.
F. The "Baby Ruth" candy bar was named for George "Babe" Ruth. Duh.
T. ...It was really named for US president Grover Cleveland's oldest daughter.
F. "Bubble Yum" bubble gum is manufactured with spiders eggs.
["The Kentucky Fried Rat" in TVH.]
T. There sure are lots of stories of food service people jacking off into food.
T. Most, if not all, are false though.
T. If you want to know what the "33" on Rolling Rock beer means. Read the
_Straight Dope_ books mentioned at the end of the FAQ list.
F. Eating ice will strip the enamel off your teeth or is somehow "bad" for you.


SNUFF MOVIES
Tb.The Feds, cops, CIA, etc. have never actually found a real snuff film.
T. Scotland Yard has found no evidence of snuff films in the last 20 years.
F. "Snuff films" actually exist (Nope, tho' there are various wannabe fakes)
T. Some psychotics have taped the murder of their victims.
T. Search in WestLaw in 1991 showed no mention of cases on "snuff films".
F.*"Faces of Death" is a snuff film. [See Larry Doering plot summary.]
F. "Snuff" was the name of a real snuff film.
T. We never saw a snuff film that we didn't like.
T. Dean Lambey in California was arrested in 1989 by an undercover officer
and tried and convicted while planning to make a snuff film. Conviction
was upheld by a federal appeals court in 1992 in Richmond, VA.
Tb.There were at least two different endings to "Old Yeller".

By definition, a snuff film is one in which the film is the *purpose* of
(rather than incidental to) the murder and with some intent of commercial
distribution (i.e. if they ran out of film, the murder would be postponed
until someone could run down to the 7-11 & get more). Paul Lanning, the
FBI's chief researcher into child pornography was quoted by _The Times_
of London:

"In 20 years I have not seen any hard evidence that they have
commercially produced sexually explicit films of murders for the
gratification of other people. Simulated snuff movies using
special effects are so realistic there is no point in risking life
in jail."

Note to the new reader: please don't send or post e-mail saying "snuff movies
*could* exist, because people are naughty enough" - this is not in dispute;
the point is that no examples have yet come to light. Until someone shows
evidence of their existence, snuff films are in the same category as UFO's,
the Loch Ness monster, and Bruce Willis's hair -- i.e. "believed false."


UPSTANDING LEGENDS OF THE PENIS AND SCROTUM
F. Model's dick showed in a Sears catalog ad for shorts (it was drawstring!)
T. But it looked a little like the model's wiener, and folks thought it was.
T. Nelson Rockefeller died of cardiac arrest while porking the help.
U. Errol Flynn banged out "Star-spangled Banner" on xylophone with his big dong
F. Gangster John Dillinger's long wang is pickled in a jar at/near Smithsonian.
F. In Nigeria, roving gangs of thieves may surreptitiously steal mens' dorks.
T. Groupies took plaster casts of pop singers' schlongs, inc Hendrix's whacker.
Tb.Adolf Hitler only had one testicle. Immortalized in many a kid's rhyme.
T. Masturbator's penis in hose chopped by fan blade of Hoover Dustette cleaner.
T. This is dubbed the legend of "the Cleaner and the Leaner Wiener".
U. Woman slits guy's scrotum, sticks straw in, and blows; he gets off on it...
F. Child in mall goes to toilet; is abducted; has willie cut off. [TCD]
F. Drunk joyriding on hood of car, loses parts to hood ornament at sudden stop.
F. Wife seduces cheating husband then superglues his plonker while he sleeps.
["The Superglue Revenge" in TCD]
T. Guy hurts self after sex w/machine drive belt, has self surgery w/stapler.
Fb.Health worker in US/Africa demos condom usage to immigrants/natives w/a
broom/finger. Woman returns pregnant. She had used EXACTLY as taught.
U. Napoleon's wanker was cut off at autopsy and was recently auctioned off.
F. Number of stars on _Playboy_ cover is # of times Hef banged the centerfold.
T. ...It's a distribution code.
T. Public boners are banned in Indiana. Law upheld by US Supreme Court.
T. Couple on UK train had oral sex, then sex, then smoked in non-smoking area,
F. ...nobody complained until they started smoking;
T. ...train crew ignored complaints until couple started smoking.
F. Young man is at dinner party w/future in-laws. His fiance says his zipper
...is unzipped. He attempts to distract them by pointing out the window
...and calling out "Look at that!" Where 2 dogs are doing the nasty, or
...he slyly zips up his fly, but when he gets up, drags the table cloth off
...'cause he trapped the cloth in his fly! ["Nudes and More Nudes" in TVH]
F. Woman reports to emergency room and sez diaphram is stuck. Drs. remove it
to find it's covered with grape jelly. Directions said to "...use w/jelly."

HIDE THE SALAMI
U. Cuckolded husband replaces contents of wife's pessaries with lye.
T. Mad doctor in Ohio cut off womens' clitoral hoods while operating on them.
T. People put assorted objects up their asses, get stuck, removed in hospital.
F. Well-known film star et al. put a gerbil up his ass for "wriggly furry fun"
["The Colo-Rectal Mouse" in TMP. Related entries in LEGAL BEAGLES]
T. Search of Medline in December 1993 using key words "anus, rectum, rodent,
gerbil" showed no such incident ever found. Lots of other stuff though.
F. Well-known male pop star rushed from concert, stomach pumped free of semen.
[Said of Elton John, Rod Stewart, David Lee Roth, and Marc Almond.]
F. Spanish fly (Cantharides) is aphrodisiac (actually genital tract irritant).
F. Girl slipped spanish fly at drive-in movie; found impaled on gear shift.
["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" in TCD]
F. Woman tied naked to bed, man in superhero costume with broken leg in closet.
T. ...Similar motif in Stephen King's novel _Gerald's Game_.
Fb.Hetero couple get stuck together while coupling. Separated at hospital.
["The Stuck Couple" in TCD]
F. One night stand, partner leaves early, other partner finds msg "Welcome to
the world of AIDS". ["AIDS Mary" in CBA]
Fb.Female gang initiation ceremony is to screw an HIV+ male member.
F. ...Gang members drive around with headlights off at night and will shoot
people who flash headlights at them.
T. There seem to be quite a few warnings about fatal gang initiations lately.
[e.g., flashing headlights, clothing, etc.]
T. Not surprisingly, other ULs (e.g., "Killer in the Backseat", ankle tendon
slashers, etc.) have emerged with "gang initiation" motifs.
F. Student is regularly nocturnally chloroformed by roommate, for sodomy.
Tb....This may have actually happened in the Dutch army. Those officers!
F. `Baghdad Betty' told US army that Bart Simpson was sleeping with their wives
Tb.Would-be rapist steals kisses; one Calif victim bit a piece off his tongue.
F. Man fills wife's lover's convertible with concrete.
["The Solid Cement Cadillac" in TVH]
T. Woman's womb filled with air during cunnilingus; she dies due to embolism.
F. Woman impregnated while swimming, due to sperm loose in pool.
F. Woman impregnated when hit by bullet that shot Civil War soldier's testicles
["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" in TCD]
Tb.Unintentional virgin birth happens occasionally in bizarre circumstances.
Tb.E.g. vagina-less woman,fellates lover, stabbed in gut by boyfriend,pregnant!
F. Silicone breasts expand under low pressure (eg. airline stewardesses on job)
U. Mother threatens to discipline kid;kid threatens to squeal on mom's fellatio.
F. Husband informed that septic tank/toilet blockage due to too many condoms;
but he doesn't use them; confronts wife, she confesses affair w/milkman.
He waits and shoots milkman next day; but it was a substitute milkman!
["The Evidence" in TMP]
F. Couple goes to "love" hotel w/hot tub, mirrors, etc. Make the sign of the
eight legged aardvark. Upon return, call up an X-movie and see themselves!
["Sex Scandals" in TCD]
F. There was a significant increase in NYC births ~9 months after 1965 Blackout
Tb.A town in Oregon banned all sex.
Tb.Rimming (oral/anal contact) is legal in Utah.
F. Catherine the Great died while trying to have something to do with a horse.
Fb....Mr. Ed was descended from that horse.
F. For some reason, a woman is doing the laundry in the nude. She puts on her
son's football helmet, and is surpised by plumber/gas man who says some-
thing like "I hope your team wins, lady." ["Nudes and More Nudes" in TVH]
F. Some subdenomination of Jews have sex through a sheet. (See soc.culture.
jewish FAQ).


DISNEY DEMENTIA [AND OTHER AMUSEMENT PARK STORIES]
T. Disney parks are riddled with secret tunnels and surveillance equipment.
T.*"Little Mermaid" video cover features good drawing of penis. Prank? Revenge?
T. There is a basketball hoop at the top of the Matterhorn replica.
T. Male Disneyites may not grow beards (& many other petty rules for women too)
T. There is a secret "Club 33" serving hard liquor,in New Orleans Sq,Disneyland
T. Clerics in their robes are admitted to Disneyland at concessionary rates.
T. Wheelchairs & 1 attendant go to the front of the line for rides.
Tb.Disney ripped off Orlando county, thru grabbing Federal road funds
T. Woman alleges clit-tickling by one third of 3 Little Pigs; case thrown out
F. Three little pigs clit-tickled law-suit happy babe, with non-mobile arms.
F. Child disappears from Disneyland, found with new haircut, dyed by abductor.
T. SF writer Harlan Ellison fired from Dismall Studios after Mickey porn joke.
F. Old Walt Disney's dead body was frozen for later revivification.
F. Child goes for ride on popular ride; feels bites; dies from snake bites!
F. Water in "Tunnel of Love" ride infested with snakes. [Both in "Death in
the Funhouse" in _CBA_.Stephanie da Silva says this really happened to her.]
T. Disney caused people to believe that Lemmings suicide in march to sea.
Tb.snopes: MIA.


QUESTION AUTHORITY (AND OTHER CONSPIRACIES)
U. CIA fixed the Anarchist's Cookbook, so explosive blows up as you make it.
T. You may *own* the mailbox, but US Postal Service controls what goes in it.
T. The CIA, NSA and 11 different secret govt organizations tap & bug everything
T. Princess Anne was only female competitor not given sex test in 1976 Olympics
F. Guy/gal wakes up in Big City, a kidney has been stolen from him!
U. The circle "K" on Snapple signifies approval by Kibo.
Tb.Hubbard started Scientology after Heinlein bet he couldn't found a religion.
T. alt.religion.scientology FAQ sez "F," but I haven't been converted yet.
F. P&G's logo reflects Satanic or Moonie ties.
["The Proctor & Gamble Trademark" in TCD]
F. On "Oprah" designer Liz Clairborne said her clothes were not designed for
black women because their "hips were too big".
F. On "Oprah" designer Liz Clairborne said she supports the KKK.
Tb.Candy manufacturers sneakily micro-reduce size of product to gyp you.
F. Universal Product Codes (computer readable bar-codes) are marks of Satan.
P. VP Bush persuaded Iranians to delay hostage release to aid Reagan election.
U. Govt has secret plan to replace the currency overnight to foil drug barons.
Tb.CIA radio transmits spoken five digit code numbers to operatives worldwide
T. You can send a coconut thru the mail without any further wrapping. Yowser!
F. Sticking one of those "Postage Paid" reply cards on a heavy object (e.g.,
a brick) will cost the addressee the postage. [Nope, USPS tosses it.]
T. Some change-making machines can be fooled by photocopies of currency.
T. The NSA shortened the key length on DES.
U. The NSA shortened the key length on DES so they could crack everyone's codes
T. The NIST is proposing a less secure digital signature standard than RSA...
U. because the NSA asked them to, so they could crack everyone's codes.
F. Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns Entenmann's bakery
F. Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns Waldenbooks.
Tb.Unification Church (i.e. Moonies) owns a fish processing plant in
Gloucester, Massachusetts.
U. Those guys selling roses on roads are connected with the Moonies.
T. Entenmann's owned by General Foods, Philip Morris bought, merged w/ Kraft.
F.*Ship captains, on their own authority, can perform marriages.
F. Govt cabbage price memo lots longer than var. patriotic/religious documents.
["The Price of Cabbage Memo" under "Government Legends" in TCD.]
F. Govt regularly burns WWII-era hemp fields. Only high officials know where.
F. If you are the first to read this and send me e-mail, you will receive $10.
Fb.Class requests satellite imaging photo; US says "no";(then) USSR says "yes".
F. Compensation paid to kin of Salem witches up to 1957 (per _The Economist_).
F. Alleged witches were burned at the stake in the US during the Salem trials.
T. Alleged witches were hanged or pressed to death.
T. Mass. recanted the Salem trials and freed the witches within a few years
T. Name of last alleged witch was cleared in 1957.
Tb.Whole business is extraordinarily similar to modern accusations of Satanism.
T. Crop circles (at least in the UK) have been shown to be man-made.
T.*Mapmakers place copyright traps in maps (Rand-McNally, no. Thomas Maps, yes)
U. Several noted movies have "death curses" on them.
Fb.Major firms/gov't suppress evidence of a super great product(car,light,etc.)
["The Economical Car" in TVH and CBA]
T. The USA did have a 49 star flag.
Tb.There really is a place called "Wyoming."
F. Some 1963 $1 bills have a 'K' for JFK, 11 for month of death to commemorate
JFK. ["The Kennedy Note" in TMP]
T. Channel 1 for TV existed in the US, but was eliminated by the FCC in 1945.
U. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
F. An undercover cop must answer yes to "Are you a cop?" to avoid entrapment.
Fb.Guy dodges draft by eating peanut butter/hotdog from rectum in front of MD.
F. There was once a female Pope in the Roman Catholic Church.
F.*Noted atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair is petitioning the FCC to ban religious
broadcasting.
Fb.U.S. Patent Office head once said that it be closed because "Everything that
can be invented has been invented."
F. It's illegal to pick Trilliums in Ontario, Canada.
U. Lots of places are supposedly either 3rd or 22nd to be bombed in WWIII.
F. Ads for "free pets" are frequently answered by testing labs for specimens.
T. Gerald Ford did have a vice president(who is mentioned elsewhere in the FAQ)
T. Bank policies on ATMs work differently in different areas.
F. The king of Denmark wore a yellow star in solidarity with Jews in WWII.
T. There were (are?) Japanese soldiers hiding out on isles in Pacific who
believed WWII was still on.
F. The Trilateral Commission is working to take over the world.
F. Ditto for the Council on Foreign Relations.
F. Queen Victoria so loved _Alice in Wonderland_ she requested copies of all
Lewis Carroll's books. Was ticked with copy of _Symbolic Logic_.
F. You can tell if a big op. is happening at US gov't by level of pizza orders.
T. Craig Becker once went nuts and bought a whole shitload of Jack Chick comix.
T. Canadians sure seem to get worked up about this "50-40" business.
Tb.Larry Doering appreciates Stalinist humor.
T. People can just ramble on about Jehovah's Witnesses & getting rid of 'em.
U. Joel Furr spends about 89.4% of his time organizing AFU and AFL events.
T. AFU WEST I was on 2 July 1991.
T. AFU WEST ][ was on 12 December 1991.
T. AFU WEST ]|[ was in Mountain View on Craig's b-day in 1992.
T. AFU WEST IV - TERRY was on 28 October 1992.
T. AFU WEST V was on 20 February 1993.
T. AFU WEST VI was on 19 June 1993.
T. AFU/alt.fan.lemurs SOUTHEAST was held on 27 March 1993.
T. There was an AFU South in May, 1992 with 2 people.
Tb.AFU Toronto is scheduled for 18 September 1993 in the Cold Frozen North.
T. AFUBOT.
F. Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science) was buried w/a phone so she could
her followers from "The Other Side."
U. There may or may not have been an AFU EAST. I need $$ to find out.


LEGAL BEAGLES [See also WILD LIFE, STUPID PEOPLE TRICKS, and SNUFF]
F. Guy trims hedges with lawnmower but trims own extremities; sues; wins big!
["The Lawnmower Accident", TMP,"Media Sources and Business Legends" in TCD]
T. Check in various legal databases shows no such case appealed.
Tb.Some people think researching the most trivial legal point is great fun.
F. There are legal limits on how much of your debts you can pay in coins (US).
T. Woman sued drink co.; she was blinded by bottle cap after opening w/pliers.
F. The US has 70% of world's lawyers.
U. U.S. Supreme Court ruled that "professional wrestling" was entertainment,
not sport.
T. Gerbils are illegal in California.[CA Reg. Title 14, Sec. 671 (c)(2)(J) 1].
Tb.Gerbils are trained to sniff drugs in Canada. Those Canadians!
F. You must be hit thrice before retaliation can be construed as self-defense.
Fb.Hackers couldn't be convicted because system had "Welcome to X system" msg.
...therefore systems now have strict disclaimers on usage.


WILD LIFE IN THE FAST LANE
Fb.Schoolkid beheaded by road sign,due to sticking his head out the bus window.
Tb.Oregon Highway Div blows up eight ton dead whale, showers town with blubber.
Fb.Gas (petrol) engines pollute the same as diesel; diesel just smells worse.
Tb.Diesel engines emit more unburnt hydrocarbons than gas ones w/catalytic conv
Ft.Power windows in cars trap kids' limbs, necks. Kill or maim them.
T. A 2 yr-old girl was killed by a power window in a Fiat in the UK in May 1992
F. Stop signs with a white border are optional. (Oh, I don't think so...)
F. Leaving car radio on when the ignition switch is off will drain battery.
[Exc. VWs, etc. where the radio is not switched thru the ignition switch.]
Tb.Airbag in car can give you a chemical burn when it deploys.
U. Driver sets cruise control, wrongly believes it steers too! Crashes...
["'Cruise Control' Stories" in TCD.]
Tb.Tree-lined French avenue triggers epileptic fits by flickering light at 11Hz
F. The VW Beetle was designed by Hitler.
Fb.New car rattles -- note found in door frame from factory saboteur...
["The Rattle in the Cadillac" in TCD.Classic UL always involves a luxury car
T. Montana & Wyoming have a token $5 fine for exceeding Federal 55mph limit.
T. Mongo-power engine installed in weenie-looking car. Blows off Corvettes.
T. John Somebody-or-other built car called "the Beast" with 27lt Spitfire engine
T. It eventually took off, and self-destructed on the A27 outside Brighton.
T. Special equipment can transmit any reading you want to police radar gun.
T. There are traffic lights with green on top in a few US Irish neighborhoods.
T. You can be guilty of DUI on a bicycle, horse, perambulator, etc most places.
T. Guy in Los Alamos labs fitted a jet engine to Honda Civic, ran on salt flats.
U. Person fitted rocket/JATO unit to car, embedded in rockface at first bend.
Fb.Man working on roof ropes himself to car on other side;wife drives off.Splat.
T. The "man on roof" appeared on a home video show in UK. Believed to be staged.
F. Hitchhiker disappears, is ghost of person killed years ago in road accident.
["The Vanishing Hitchhiker" in TVH and TMP]
F. Valuable classic car sold for pittance by (1) grieving parents of war dead
F,U(2) spouse of errant husband (3) heirs of person who died and rotted in it.
Fb.(4) sold by widow who would receive either car or proceeds of its sale.
["The Death Car" and "The Philanderer's Porsche" in TVH. "The Bargain
Sports Car" in CBA]
F. Psycho's handhook hanging from the car door, broken off as couple drove away
["The Hook" in TVH]
F. Carthief squashed dead in stolen BMW by collapsing freeway in '89 SF quake
F. Driving barefoot is illegal most places (Nope, but it's dumb to goad cops)
T. Driving barefoot is illegal in the state of Kentucky.
T. New York car thief stole lab delivery of cadaver heads...
U. Red sports cars generate disproportionate number of speeding tickets.
F. Man crashes into toll booth while receiving fellatio from girlfriend.
Fb.Flashing your headlights will cause a traffic light to change faster.
T. It's really no big deal that there are towns named "Intercourse" and
"Blue Ball" in Pennsylvania. Post it to misc.misc if you can't resist.
Tb.There are some lights w/sensors for emergency vehicles.
Tb.There're lots folk remedies to plug up old radiators: cigarettes, pepper.
T. Lots of places have weird street names.
T. You can find lots of weird msgs on license plates if you try really hard.
T. "SIGAlerts" in the greater LA area are named for a guy named Loyd Sigmon.
F. Couple's car out of gas; he gets help; she hears noise, then cops arrive;
tell her to leave & not look back; she does, sees him hanging or
decapitated. ["The Boyfriend's Death" in TVH]
F. Guy tries to siphon gas from an RV but instead siphons from the septic tank;
found unconscious by RV next morning.
Tb."Maintenance-Free" batteries were invented for cheaper transport of new cars
F. Police officer pulls over female driver. She asks about tickets to a
policemen's ball, he replies "Policemen don't have balls" and he leaves
flustered (or she is totally embarassed). ["Miscellaneous Sex Legends" TCD]
Fb.Woman gets in her car at night; is followed on the way home; calls for help;
husband accosts the guy; guy was trying to warn woman of thug in backseat of
her car. ["The Killer in the Back Seat", TVH]
Fb.Parking spot taken from older woman by two younger women. They tell her
"Sorry we're younger and faster." Woman reflects, rams their car, and
replies "I'm older and richer". [Several variations on the repartee.]
["Old vs. Young" in TMP and also used in the film "Fried Green Tomatoes".]
F. A motorcyclist at high speed hits a fly which goes to his brain via his eye.
F. An auto worker steals parts of a Caddy bit by bit until he has a whole car.
U. Fancy car has "No Radio" sign. Owner returns to broken windshield and "No
Windshield"/"Get One" or "Just Checking" sign.
Fb.Truck gets stuck at low bridge. Noone knows what to do; a young kid suggests
letting the air out of the tires.
U. UK people drive on the left (etc) to allow easy sword access in old days.
F. Someone never gets tickets because his license plates say "NONE".
Tb.Freon can be used to break Kryptonite locks.
F. In great desperation, mother lifts car off and rescues trapped child.
F. Woman picks up elderly woman hitchhiker; sees that HH has hairy arms; gets
HH out on pretense;takes off;later finds cleaver/hatchet/knife in seat.
["The Hairy Armed Hitchhiker" in TCD.]
F. Couple w/baby on long trip stops to switch places; place baby on roof; they
forget it up there! Police cruiser pull them over and baby is rescued.
["The Baby on the Roof" in TCD.]
F. Grandma dies on long family trip; they strap body to roof; car is stolen!
["The Runaway Grandmother" in TVH.]
T. "The Club" is lame because a thief could cut through the wheel in no time.
T. You sure gets lots of junk when you ask about US highway numbering schemes.
T. Not many threads are dumber than [non]funny place and street names...
...except for "names in phonebooks."
Fb.Rolls-Royce will go to great extremes to fix problems and deny that there
were any problems to protect their image.

LEGENDS ABOUT NATATORY CAPABILITIES OF LARGE ANTHROPOID PRIMATES
Tb.Gorillas can't swim.
T. Certain tribes of Japanese macaques sift their grain in the sea.
Fb.Many simians hold regular swimming contests; winners mate w/ choice females.
Tb....Losers go on either "The Love Connection."
T. Some monkeys prefer not to swim at all; will drown if dropped in water.
P. Chimpanzee muscles are formed in a way that renders backstroke impossible.
T. "Baywatch" proves that apes share at least 95% of DNA with humans.
T. Lee "Cow Pie King" Rudolph is the 100th lemur.


ASTOUNDING AVIAN ANOMALIES
F. Birds cannot sing while on the ground.
Tb.Govt forces commercial birdseed to be irradiated to stop hemp seed sprouting
T. Radar emissions can kill birds, sterilize sailors, fry other small mammals.
T. Chickens are easily mesmerized. Whoopee.
F. Sprinkle salt on a bird's tail to catch it by preventing it flying away.
T. If the bird let you get close enough to salt its tail, you could grab it.
F. Seagulls (and other creatures) explode when you feed them Alka-Seltzer or
rice, or "pop-rocks" - dried coconuts?.["The Death of Little Mikey" in TCD].
F. Birds won't sit on their nests if you touch one of their eggs.
F. The resonance frequency of a chicken's skull cavity is ~7 Hz.
Tb.Some birds get drunk by eating partly fermented berries/fruits.


DOGGIE-STYLE and CATTY-WUMPUSS [See also LEWD FOOD]
F. Dalmatians and humans are the only mammals whose urine contain urea.
Tb.Dalmatians and humans are the only mammals who cannot break down
uric acid into its soluble form, "allantoin."
U. Old/ditzy woman puts dog in microwave to dry it out- it dies gruesome
death/lives to bark again. ["The Pet (or Baby) in the Oven" and "Hot Dog"
in TVH. Also "I Read It in the Paper" in TCD.]
T. Cruel people and other weirdos will microwave pets. This is not a surprise.
T. A Baltimore lawyer was busted for microwaving a kitten in January 1992.
F. A Doberman chokes on fingers that it bit off burglar hidden in closet.
["The Choking Doberman" in, surprise! TCD and TMP]
F. Plastic/glass water bottles on lawn prevent dogs urinating in the area.
["Lawn Order in New Zealand (and elsewhere)" in CBA]
F. The scent of wolf dung terrifies dogs, so disposal by zoos is regulated.
T. Radioactive cat litter found in May 1991 in Berkeley, Calif
U. Source of the litter was radioactive cat food? Cat on radiation therapy?
F. Days-old body in home discovered headless. Was eaten by dog!
T. Cats can carry a parasite (toxoplasmosis) which is esp.dangerous to fetuses.
Tb.Aspirin is very bad for cats (slow removal of salicyates from their bodies).
Tb.Dog gets shock from phone line, urinates, phone rings!
F. Woman's cat dies. She puts it in a shopping bag/box to take it to the
country for burial. On the way, she stops at a store and puts the bag
down. She turns around and bag is shoplifted. ["The Dead Cat in the
Package" in TVH. There's an amusing ending in one of the stories.]
T. Many variations on above with urine samples in bottles and bags of garbage.
Tb.In WW2, Russians fed dogs under tanks, then released them in battle with
anti-tank explosives having an antenna-like trigger on their backs.
Tb.Dogs ran under wrong ones, German tanks didn't smell like Russian tanks.
T. Most Russian tanks were diesel, most German ones weren't.
T. German high command counters by spreading rabies rumors, encouraging
soldiers to shoot every dog they see.
F. Firemen rescue old lady's cat from tree. She invites them for tea. They run
over cat when they leave. ["The Bungled Rescue of the Cat" in CBA]

OTHER ANIMAL (BUT NON-BUGGY) CRACKERS
U. Every animal has enough brains in its head to preserve its own hide.
F. Dead rabbit next door dug up by dog;washed, put in cage by frantic dogowner.
["The Hare Drier" in CBA.]
F. Killer whales will attack swimming dogs because they stink like hell.
F. Fox frees itself of fleas by gradual immersion, shifting fleas to lintball.
Fb.Driver runs over exotic animal,wraps in coat for fun photo;it revives, runs
off! Similar story: A hunter poses for picture w/deer w/rifle in antlers.
Fb.Farmer asks hunter to shoot mule; other hunter shoots another mule too.
T. Armadillos can contract leprosy.
Tb.Armadillos can spread leprosy to humans.
Tb.Cow-tipping (pushing over a sleeping cow) has happened.
Tb.Cow-tipping is usually just a bunch of hooey to beguile city kids.
Tb.Candiru fish, native to S. America, can swim into your urethra.
T. Fainting goats are real. Crimony!
T. Galapagos turtles do moan and groan during copulation.
F. Guinea pigs' eyes fall out if you hold them up by their tails.
T. Guinea pigs actually *do* have small stumpy vestigial tails. Take a look!
Fb.Horse falls thru bottom of moving trailer, legs ground to stumps.
Fb.Otter, newly-released after $50K Valdez clean-up, is eaten by whale.
T. Rats cannot vomit (the basis for many rat poisons).
F.*There are [albino] alligators inhabiting the sewers of New York City. [TVH]
T. There sure seem to be lots of stories about pigeons.
T. Sewer rats can come into the house and bite one's behind while on the potty.
U. Litter from released balloons choke and kill whales, birds, etc.
F. [Domesticated] turkeys are so dumb,they'll drown if they're out in the rain.
Fb.Trapper ties dynamite to coyote, releases; coyote runs under his car/house.
["The Coyote's Revenge" in TCD. Similar ULs with rabbits, raccoons, fish,
etc. exist and are traced back to an old motif involving a cat in TMP]
F. Woman found a rat in Mexico and brought it home thinking it was a dog.
["The Mexican Pet" in, surprise! TMP]
F. Baby elephant escapes from circus; sits on VW;front/roof dented;later police
stop owner and ask what happened? ["The Elephant that Sat on a VW" in TCD.]
T. Rachel Perkins has seen blow-up sheep dolls.


LET'S NOT GO FISHING!
T. The etymology of "POSH."
T. Someone has made three-sided record.
T. Anything to do with "Star Trek."
T. Austria/Australia, wherever those equatorial countries are.


ARTHROPOD CRACKERS
T. Really big insects (snakes too) can get imported along with fruit shipments.
F. Bugs congregate in the pointy ends of bananas, so discard before eating.
F. Dragonflies ("darning needles") can sting you very severely.
T. Only hymenopterans sting. A large dragonfly may be strong enough to pinch.
F. If a dragonfly or a ladybug lands on you, you will have good luck.
T. "Killer" African bees are swarming into Texas from down South.
T. A lot of people have found live or dead insects in their fast food snacks.
T. Cockroaches love coffee, live in TV's, too often get in your cup or food.
T. Insect lays eggs in open wound; months later baby insects eat their way out.
Variation: Woman gets bitten, after insects out, she dies/has breakdown.
["The Spider Bite" in TMP]
F. Cactus shakes, then explodes with hundreds of scorpions/spiders.
["Spiders in the Yucca" in TMP]
F. Explorer gets bug in ear; bug eats thru to other ear; gave birth on way...
[Various ULs of this type under "A Bug in the Ear" in _CBA_]
F. A woman w/beehive hairdo is so proud of it she doesn't wash her hair; she
dies from bees/spiders in it.
["The Spider in the Hairdo" in TVH]
Fb.Lobsters,dropped in boiling water, scream.(Nah, it's steam from under shell)
Fb.Moth/butterfly scales from wings will poison or blind you.
Fb.There are US state laws making it illegal to kill/capture praying mantises.
T. The bite of the Brown Recluse spider is nasty.


SOME REFERENCES:

Cecil Adams (_The Straight Dope_, 1984, ISBN 0-345-33315-2 and_More of the
Straight Dope_, 1988, ISBN 0-345-35145-2 both published by Ballantine
Books). Author of "The Straight Dope" Q&A column of _The Chicago
Reader_ and is syndicated in many alternative newspapers. Cecil is "a
National Treasure" who "tells people what they actually want and need
to know instead of useless rubbish." Worth reading if only for for his
writing style. Contrary to what you may read on a.f.u., he is not
related to Marilyn vos Savant but he might be Monty Hall. Another one
is due in 1994. You can e-mail his editor, Ed Zotti, at
ezo...@merle.acns.nwu.edu

Jan Harold Brunvand (_The Vanishing Hitchhiker_, 1981, ISBN 0-393-95169-3;
_The Choking Doberman_, 1984, ISBN 0-393-30321-7; _The Mexican Pet_,
1986, ISBN 0-393-30542-2; _Curses! Broiled Again_, 1989,
ISBN 0-393-30711-5, _The Baby Train_, 1993, ISBN 0-393-03438-0; _The
Study of American Folklore_, 3rd Ed., 1986, all published by W.W.
Norton); _Folklore: A Study and Research Guide_, 1976, St. Martin's
(out of print). JHB is one of the leading folklorists today and has
done much to popularize the study of ULs. Also has a great back hand
and skis a mean "figure 11."

Alfie Kohn, _You Know What They Say...The Truth About Popular Beliefs_,
1990, ISBN 0-06-092115-3, Harper. Pretty good book with, get this,
*references* to stuff in the back. This is a good habit which some
of you folks may want to try sometime....

G. & C. Merriam Co., _Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary_, 1977, ISBN
0-87779-348-4. Great bedside reading. Check it out sometime.
There's also the OED, but Bruce Tindall will probably take care of
that.

William Poundstone (_Big Secrets_, 1983, Morrow and _Bigger Secrets_, 1986,
Houghton-Mifflin). Sorry, it's a secret. [Graham Toal sez these books
may be ordered from Blackwells in Oxford.] Peter Trei says the stuff
on Masons is total BS, but then, he WOULD say that.

Bruce Tindall and Mark Watson (_Did Mohawks Wear Mohawks?_ _And Other
Wonders, Plunders, and Blunders_, Quill - William and Morrow, 1991.
ISBN 0-688-09859-2.) S'all right, and only one wrong entry so far.
Just don't believe what they say about dalmatians, humans, and urea.
You can even e-mail Bruce on the net at Bruce....@lambada.oit.unc.edu
to blast 'im. Part II is coming out in approximately Fall, 1994.

Peter van der Linden (_The Official Handbook of Practical Jokes_ Signet,
ISBN 0-451-15873-3, 1989 and _The Second Official Handbook of Practical
Jokes_, 1991, Signet, ISBN 0-451-16924-7). Do you want to get the scoop
on practical jokes that actually have some real world validity rather
than those by prepubescent college kids on bad banana peels? Try
checking these two bricks^H^H^H^H^H^H books out. You'll find ULs,
delightfully bad illustrations, and even practical jokes. $3.50. Cheap!
God, would you believe that even Peter has another book coming out?
What's this world coming too?

===============================================================================

An urban legend:
* appears mysteriously and spreads spontaneously in varying forms
* contains elements of humor or horror (the horror often "punishes"
someone who flouts society's conventions).
* makes good storytelling.
* does NOT have to be false, although most are. ULs often have a basis
in fact, but it's their life after-the-fact (particularly in reference
to the second and third points) that gives them particular interest.

===============================================================================
Unbounded thanks to: Jane Beckman, Steven Bellovin, Conrad Black, Mark Brader,
Jack Campin, Raymond Chen, Joe Chew, Patrick S Clark, Cathi A.Cook, Cindy
Davies, Glenn Davis, Jeff Davis, Ray Depew, Scott Deerwester, Larry Doering,
all the Terry's: Carroll, Chan, Monks, Wood, et al., David Esan, Ted Frank,
Greg Franklin, Alan Frisbie, Joel Furr, Kim Greer, Tom Greer, Dave Gross,
Phil Gustafson, Jason R. Heimbaugh, David A. Honigs, David B. Horvath,
Wendy Foran Howard, Mark Israel, Richard Joltes, Jim Jones, Cynthia Kandolf,
Diane Kelly, Phil Kernick, Andrew Lewis, Susan Mudgett, Bill Nelson, Tom
Neff, Bob O'Brien, Jonathan Papai, Christophe Pettus, Saki, G. Paul Savage,
Brian Scearce, Sean Smith, Randal Schwartz, Ken Shirriff, snopes, Haakon
Styri, Bruce Tindall, Dwight Tovey, Peter van der Linden, Greg Widdicombe,
and Dan Wright.

OTHERS?

Have you ever wondered how those people have gotten the name at the end
of the FAQ list? They are people who are widely recognized as thoughtful
posters of reliable information. They have consistently added value to
various debates by sharing their point of view, and often researching
difficult questions which arise on the net, and posting authoritative facts
citing sources.

The official way for joining the list of distinguished AFU-ers is to
take one of these unanswered questions that come now and then, research
it and reach a definitive conclusion (or demonstrate that one cannot be
found). Post your findings. If the report is sound, and the original
question was non-trivial, you will be added to the acknowledgements section
of the FAQ list! Be prepared to submit references. We are mostly adults
here (except around the beginning of the academic year). Be prepared to
discuss and debate your research and conclusions here. The unofficial way
to get on the list is to give me a big payoff (and it better be more than
two-fifty).


Original FAQ list by Peter van der Linden, February, 1991.
Maintained by Terry Chan since July, 1991.
Mildly tinkered with in a few trivial ways, PvdL, December 9, 1991
Masterfully improved formating courtesy of Tom Neff, December 16, 1991.
Posting to news.answers finished off by Phil "Dr. Hip" Gustafson.
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