On the Hazards of Being Shot
Lance Clarke
John Clarke Mccanless said:
>Two recent stories from D.C. that have UL-esque qualities about them:
>one, a man was shot and wounded, then his assailants followed him (and
>his samaritans) to the hospital emergency room entrance to finish him
>off.
A somewhat similar story was related to me recently. This fellow is an EMT
in Chicago, and fellow Red Cross volunteer. He was attending a shooting
victim at the area of the Robert Taylor Homes (read: unsavory
neighborhood). One EMT was getting the 'jump kit' (medical bag) and one
was getting the stretcher. My friend was attending the victim when he
fealt a cold metalic object press against the back of his neck. He then
was told: "I shot him so he would die. Let him die."
The ambulance crew retreated to await a police escort. By the time they
could return, the victim had died.
>two, a man was shot while walking his unleashed pit bull, but had
>to lie on the ground wounded even after help arrived because the dog
>wouldn't let police/medics near him. A local news crew caught some
>bizarre footage of the emergency personnel throwing the injured man a
>large rope (looped) which he had to place around the neck of his dog
>by himself (clearly in some discomfort) so the crews could yank the
>dog away.
Having to deal with animals isn't too uncommon in emergency medical
services.
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Adam Bradley
In article <E1JIA...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jc...@watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (John Clarke Mccanless) wrote:
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> 2 Wounded In Shooting at
> SW Hospital
>
> Police Say 1st Victim
> Likely Was Followed
>
I saw this on the news yesterday. It mirrors an episode of "er" a few seasons
ago, when a gang member entered a hospital to finish the job he had started.
In it, he escaped without capture, much like this actual incident. Unlike
this shooting, the patient on "er" was already dead and the gunman was a
pre-teen.
I wonder if this has occured before, or if this is life imitating art?
John Clarke Mccanless
Two recent stories from D.C. that have UL-esque qualities about them:
one, a man was shot and wounded, then his assailants followed him (and
his samaritans) to the hospital emergency room entrance to finish him
wouldn't let police/medics near him. A local news crew caught some
bizarre footage of the emergency personnel throwing the injured man a
large rope (looped) which he had to place around the neck of his dog
by himself (clearly in some discomfort) so the crews could yank the
dog away.
The UL-ish aspects are mostly the weirdness quotient of each, I think,
although the first also has a nice smattering of the old "you're never
safe in the big bad city" moral. (Hell, the second does too, I guess,
if you can't even walk your dog in peace!)
Anyhoo, the following articles are culled from washingtonpost.com. As
always, sorry about the formatting, it's the dang web page's fault.
John "gunning for trouble" McCanless
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2 Wounded In Shooting at
SW Hospital
Police Say 1st Victim
Likely Was Followed
By Scott Bowles
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 24 1996; Page B03
The Washington Post
Two men were shot, one critically, at
the emergency room entrance of a
Southwest Washington hospital last
night after a gunman shot his intended
victim once, then apparently followed
him to the hospital to try to finish him
off, police said.
The incident began about 9 p.m. when
a man pulled into a Shell gasoline
station in the 4700 block of South
Capitol Street SW, police spokesman
Robert Garisto said.
As the driver stepped out of his car,
investigators said, he was approached
by at least one man.
"There might have been an argument,
or he might have recognized someone,
but he started to run," Garisto said.
The man was shot at least once as he
tried to run from the station, police
said. He stumbled and collapsed on
South Capitol Street.
Two people in a passing car saw the
man in the street and stopped to pick
him up, police said.
As they drove the wounded man to
nearby Hadley Memorial Hospital, in
the 4600 block of Martin Luther King
Jr. Avenue SW, the gunman
apparently got in his car and followed,
police said.
"They were lifting the man out of the
vehicle when [the gunman] started
shooting," Garisto said. "There
couldn't have been more than a minute
or two from the time they reached the
emergency room to when the second
shooting began."
The man was shot several more times,
and a nurse attending to the man also
was shot, Garisto said. The nurse was
admitted to Hadley Memorial Hospital
with a single gunshot wound in his leg
that was not life-threatening, Garisto
said. The first man, a 26-year-old
Southeast Washington resident, was
taken to another hospital, where he
was in surgery last night in very critical
condition.
The two people who picked up the man
were not injured.
Police said they had no suspects and
knew of no motive in the shooting.
© Copyright 1996 The Washington
Post Company
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AROUND THE REGION
From News Services and Staff Reports
Sunday, November 24 1996; Page B03
The Washington Post
<other stories snipped>
Man Walking Dog Is Shot
An unidentified man walking a pit
bull was shot and wounded yesterday
afternoon in the Friendship Heights
area of upper Northwest Washington,
where gunfire is rarely heard.
Witnesses told police that the man was
approached about 2:20 p.m. in the 4300
block of Garrison Street NW near the
intersection with Wisconsin Avenue by
two men in an automobile. The men
began arguing with him, police said,
possibly about money.
The man was shot and fell in the
roadway, with his dog at his side. Police
said the presence of the dog prompted
them to summon animal welfare
employees.
The man was treated at a hospital for
wounds that police said did not appear
to threaten his life. Police said they
believed the dog was taken in by the
D.C. Humane Society.
--
John C. McCanless
Lockheed Martin Federal Systems
Manassas, Virginia
Internet: john.mc...@lmco.com
Alan Bostick
jc...@watt.seas.Virginia.EDU (John Clarke Mccanless) writes:
> two, a man was shot while walking his unleashed pit bull, but had
>to lie on the ground wounded even after help arrived because the dog
>wouldn't let police/medics near him. A local news crew caught some
>bizarre footage of the emergency personnel throwing the injured man a
>large rope (looped) which he had to place around the neck of his dog
>by himself (clearly in some discomfort) so the crews could yank the
>dog away.
This reminds me a great deal of the opening scene in Fredric Brown's
THE SCREAMING MIMI (Dutton, 1949), where a ferocious dog stands guard
over the unconscious-but-not-dead body of the victim of a serial killer.
Alan "Would you believe there's a copy on the bookshelf right next to
my computer?" Bostick
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Lance Clarke
Matthew J. Farrenkopf said:
>Lance Clarke (cla...@concentric.net) wrote:
>: The ambulance crew retreated to await a police escort. By the time they
>: could return, the victim had died.
>
>standard procedure here in Portland. They also knew that it was not a
>"good" neighborhood. With all that, why would they go in before getting
>police on scene? Did they know the victim, and emotion took over?
Absolutely correct. And that's how it's done most places. The difference
here is that it's Chicago, where there are >numerous< responses to shooting
calls >daily<. Over time, one gets 'hardened' to these types of
events/scenes/dangers. It just becomes 'old hat', which is why it happened
in the first place.
As I reported, but probably not clearly, a police escort WAS called prior
to original scene entry. But upon arrival, it 'looks safe' as compared to
(rhetorically) the identical incident that happened the day before
yesterday.
In Chicago, there are several shooting calls a >day<. Just out of
curiosity, how many do you get in Portland?
Robert Bo Lawler
Matthew J. Farrenkopf <ma...@teleport.com> wrote:
>Lance Clarke (cla...@concentric.net) wrote:
[snip snip]
>: The ambulance crew retreated to await a police escort. By the time they
>: could return, the victim had died.
>
>IMNSHO, EMTs should've staged prior to entering a gunshot scene. That's
>standard procedure here in Portland. They also knew that it was not a
>"good" neighborhood. With all that, why would they go in before getting
>police on scene? Did they know the victim, and emotion took over?
I used to live with an ambulance driver in scenic Boston, MA. He once
reported that he and his partner spent a rather worried several minutes
administering to once gunshot victim while assorted parties nearby continued
to attempt to perforate each other. How near is "nearby" was not specified
with feet or yards, but near enough to be quite nervous without being
the direct object of gunfire. The police did show up, ending the affair.
He got the call and went. He was of the opinion that that was his job.
When the gravity of the situation became apparent, though, he was already
there and retreating didn't make too much sense.
Bo "bandage... stretcher... 38 special..." Lawler
Daniel Pawtowski
In article <57rdkn$8...@nadine.teleport.com>,
Matthew J. Farrenkopf <ma...@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>IMNSHO, EMTs should've staged prior to entering a gunshot scene. That's
>standard procedure here in Portland. They also knew that it was not a
>"good" neighborhood. With all that, why would they go in before getting
>police on scene? Did they know the victim, and emotion took over?
Well, I know an EMT who says a similar incident occured to him: Got to
a scene ahead of police. The victim looked bad, so they decided not to
wait for the cops. They went in and started to work, at which point the
shooter realized the victim was still alive. He walked up, asked the
EMT's to stand aside, shot the victim again, and walked off. EMT didn't
know the victim- he just wanted to save the guy.
The EMT (I'd rather not use a name without asking permission) admitted
that he was being stupid, he thought it was worth the risk to try. He's
not going to take chances like that again, and will never go on a call without
being armed himself. It's illegal for him to be armed, which is why
I'd rather not mention his name or his city.
Daniel Pawtowski
dpaw...@vt.edu