Did a parachutist really descend into helicopter blades?
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>On or about 9 Jun 2003, Lots42 The Library Avenger of
>lot...@aol.comaol.com...:
>
>>>> I thought humans were denser than aircraft, and fall faster, hence no
>>>> gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
>
>> Sure but doesn't it take TIME to get up to speed? If the helicopter is
>> dropping like a stone and you leap out...from what I understand the
>> copter will be going faster then you for a couple seconds.
>
>And so AFU turns from how many monkeys can type on the head of a pin to
>how much faster lead will fall than wood.
So I made a mistake. Sue me. I'm only half-cyborg.
Dan Hartung
>Helicopters are dangerous things. A couple
>of years ago some UK millionaire landed in his helicopter to meet
>his young daughter, picked her up high and "Bap-Bap-BAP".
Eww. Cite?
While researching this, incidentally, I recalled the death of Philippe
Cousteau. Well documented:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1979/790628-0.htm
... it has nothing to do with helicopters.
Yet for some reason that death had circulated in those pre-internet days in a
ULish form thus:
Jacques Cousteau's son helped him on his research expeditions. On one of these
they were getting out of a helicopter when a gust of wind made the vehicle
bounce and the rotor blades descend, tragically killing the exiting Cousteau
/fils/ and injuring another crewmember.
I recall this vividly, and yet none of it seems to be true, including the idea
that Cousteau's son(s) worked for him. (Apparently there had been a falling out
and a lawsuit.) Were these the particulars of another helicopter accident
around the same time?
Dan "I know the m*tt* c*nt*st cl*s*d y**rs *g*" Hartung
mail me via lakefxdan AT aol DOT com
Ralph Jones
wrote:
It sounds somewhat like the helicopter accident that killed Vic Morrow
and two Vietnamese children in 1982., during a "Twilight Zone" taping.
The director, John Landis, got into considerable trouble over safety
practices as well as child-actor regulations.
rj
Dr H
On 13 Jun 2003, Dan Hartung wrote:
}Yet for some reason that death had circulated in those pre-internet days in a
}ULish form thus:
}
}Jacques Cousteau's son helped him on his research expeditions. On one of these
}they were getting out of a helicopter when a gust of wind made the vehicle
}bounce and the rotor blades descend, tragically killing the exiting Cousteau
}/fils/ and injuring another crewmember.
}
}I recall this vividly, and yet none of it seems to be true, including the idea
}that Cousteau's son(s) worked for him. (Apparently there had been a falling out
}and a lawsuit.) Were these the particulars of another helicopter accident
}around the same time?
Are you perhaps thinking of this incident?
June 28, 1979: Philippe Cousteau (35), son of Jacques Cousteau, was
killed when his Catalina PBY-6A airplane crashed as he was landing.
His plane had just been repaired when he took it out for a flight. As
he landed, one of the plane's propeller's sheared off, cut through the
cockpit,and killed Cousteau.
Phillipe produced many of his father's TV documentaries, and co-authored
at least one book with Jacques.
Dr H
Bob Ward
wrote:
It doesn't sound at all like the Vic Morrow incident to me - in that
case, the victims were on the ground, and were struck by the blades of
the crashing helicopter. I certainly would not have confused one with
the other.
Dan Hartung
>On 13 Jun 2003, Dan Hartung wrote:
> Are you perhaps thinking of this incident?
>
> June 28, 1979: Philippe Cousteau (35), son of Jacques Cousteau, was
Yes, I was, as following the link would have demonstrated. What I was asking
for was whether anyone else had heard the ULish version that I had, which rang
so true that I'd believed it up until reading the accident report as noted, or
whether I had confused it with some other celebrity-related helicopter
accident.
Dan "I'll use English next time" Hartung
Dan Hartung
>>It sounds somewhat like the helicopter accident that killed Vic Morrow
>>and two Vietnamese children in 1982., during a "Twilight Zone" taping.
>>The director, John Landis, got into considerable trouble over safety
>>practices as well as child-actor regulations.
>
>case, the victims were on the ground, and were struck by the blades of
>the crashing helicopter. I certainly would not have confused one with
>the other.
No, it wasn't the Vic Morrow incident. It was definitely supposed to be someone
getting out of a helicopter on the ground. Also, based on my remembered age and
impressionability, 1975 is closer to the year that I would have heard this (but
1979 seems late).
I tend to think it was just a garbled version of the Catalina accident. Perhaps
it's just me later confusing Philippe's death with something else I'd heard;
but it was so vividly described that I've remembered it for years.
And accidents like that do happen: Apparently it's called "sailing" when a
rotor blade is caught by a vertical draft (they're generally somewhat flexible
to begin with, and many parked copters will have an obvious 'droop'), and
sometimes it will sufficiently distort the blades that they can do things like
slice through the tail. Slowing blades -- i.e. with less rotational velocity --
will succumb more easily to downdrafts and gravity, especially at the far edges
of the "rotor disk", and apparently many accidents are associated with this.
Dan "Cuts like a knife" Hartung
Bob Ward
wrote:
>Bobward wrote:
I knew that I recalled an incident where a Highway Patrol officer was
killed by walking into the rotor blades of a helicopter, and found it
using Google:
http://www.thereporter.com/Specials/Century/1980/story04.html
The last of the Solano County law enforcement officers to die in the
'80s was George Butler, 52, a flight officer for the California
Highway Patrol. Butler was killed Dec. 8, 1986, when he walked into
the rotating blades of a helicopter at the scene of an Interstate 80
accident near Dixon.
John Schmitt
lakef...@aol.comcomcom (Dan Hartung) writes:
>>Helicopters are dangerous things. A couple
>>of years ago some UK millionaire landed in his helicopter to meet
>>his young daughter, picked her up high and "Bap-Bap-BAP".
>Eww. Cite?
The Lexis-Nexis elf visited me, and I can now do this. It was
reported in the Times of July, 4 1995, the man being Nicholas
Hawkings-Byass[1] and his daughter was called Lydia and was
four at the time.
John "a couple (L) of years" Schmitt
[1] Stop *sniggering* at the back.
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Dr H
Indeed, writing in English would be a good thing. As would reading
it, which would have conveyed to you that Phillipe did in fact work
for Jacques, as the producer of several of his documentaries.
Dr H
Edward Rice
joh...@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (John Schmitt) wrote:
> In article <20030612235544...@mb-m01.aol.com>,
> lakef...@aol.comcomcom (Dan Hartung) writes:
>
> >>Helicopters are dangerous things. A couple
> >>of years ago some UK millionaire landed in his helicopter to meet
> >>his young daughter, picked her up high and "Bap-Bap-BAP".
>
> >Eww. Cite?
>
> The Lexis-Nexis elf visited me, and I can now do this. It was
> reported in the Times of July, 4 1995, the man being Nicholas
> Hawkings-Byass[1] and his daughter was called Lydia and was
> four at the time.
He's apparently a bit of a helo nut-case, and remained so after the
incident in which he killed his daughter:
http://www.bubl.ac.uk/org/tacit/tac/tac30/andtheyc.htm
Meanwhile, across the country a new controversy has noisily arisen,
whirring its rotorblades at beleaguered hillgoers. Another London-based
firm, MFH Helicopters Ltd (known names: Nicholas Hawkings-Byass and Edward
Wood), has set up a subsidiary called Skye Helicopters (1 Dunraven St,
London W1Y 3FG, tel: 0171-499-2233, fax: 0171-499-2277), intending
ten-minute tourist flights from a pad near the Sligachan Hotel, down Glen
Sligachan and over to Coruisk, returning close by Sgurr nan Gillean. This
sounds quite nice - get a genuine gabbro buzz - and would be fine from the
onlooker's point of view were scrambles thus enlivened only once or twice
per day. But the proposal is to run the #30, three-passenger flights six
months a year, six days a week, six hours a day and up to six times an
hour. How many sixes are there in the Mark of the Beast?
ehr
Marc Reeve
making it Man Friday Helicopters Helicopters Limited, go figure). They
had also been known as Crusoe Chopper Cruises.
The Skye proposal was, for want of a better phrase, shot down by the
local council in late 1996.
Marc "Man Friday doesn't refer to the beginning of a Manx weekend" Reeve
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> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
yes it really happened on August 9th 1987 at Thruxton Aerodrome in Hampshire, UK. The 21 year old girl who was tragically killed by the helicopter was in a family group from (if my memory serves me correctly) Maidenhead in Berkshire, UK.
The family spent the previous night in a bed and breakfast house less than one mile from Thruxton itself. How do i know this? Because i stayed in the same bed and breakfast establishment on the same night, and i was talking to the very girl that very morning at the breakfast table. She was telling me it was her first jump and she was nervous but excited etc. etc.
Thomas Prufer
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> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
R H Draney
spinning blades would have made any such attempt a struggle at best....r
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Ralph Jones
wrote:
>Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
>parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
>blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
Dunno about helicopters, but there have been a handful of incidents of
parachustists colliding with airplanes...the result is the same.
It would be more gruesome to the occupants of the helicopter than to
the parachutist; they would have an opportunity to reflect on how much
the situation sucked, on the way down.
rj
Bill Heyman
news:7t34evsrmpbp4e8fv...@4ax.com:
I have over 200 combat mission hours in helicopters (mission commander
not pilot) and one of the great arguments when dropping special forces
was - if something were to happen to the helicopter would it be safer to
jump? The consensus was that the craft would have to be upside down or
the rotors blown off. An interesting (though I couldn't find the
accident cite) is the following, which alleges to be the first...
http://www.germanvtol.com/carlbode.html
"I climbed to 4,920 ft without difficulty. During the switch into
autorotation, the helicopter jolted with a loud bang and went into a
nose-dive. The right rotor pylon had broken off and we were both hanging
in our seat belts. I cried 'Raus!' to Heinz and jettisoned my left exit
window. I had to fight to open my spring-locked seat belt. The helicopter
lost about 2,267 ft before I succeeded. The belt's tension probably saved
my life. Had I been able to get out immediately, I might well have
suffered the same fate as the exit window which I later found had been
cut to shreds by the left rotor. As I was struggling with my belt for
what seemed an eternity but was only a few seconds, the rotor must have
been destroyed by hitting the window and then being dragged up by the
airflow."
"I made sure the helicopter was definitely beneath me before trying to
open my parachute. An indescribable feeling of relief came over me as I
was pulled skywards and the parachute billowed above me." This was
probably the first successful parachute jump from a helicopter.
Bill"only autorotated once myself"Heyman
Greg Locock
I have no reason to doubt your honesty.
So, yes, I'm pretty sure you heard a gruesome news report.
Cheers
Greg "Helpful" Locock
Dave Kenworthy
"J Asking" <justas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f3d15258.03060...@posting.google.com...
> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
I remember news coverage of such an incident in the UK about five or six
years ago (?). The helicopter was on the ground, it was some sort of local
fair IIRC.
--
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-----------------------------
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Brian Thorn
wrote:
>I have over 200 combat mission hours in helicopters (mission commander
>not pilot) and one of the great arguments when dropping special forces
>was - if something were to happen to the helicopter would it be safer to
>jump? The consensus was that the craft would have to be upside down or
>the rotors blown off.
I thought humans were denser than aircraft, and fall faster, hence no
gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
Brian
Bob Ward
wrote:
After the chute opens, what next?
Lots42 The Library Avenger
>>gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
>>
>>Brian
Sure but doesn't it take TIME to get up to speed? If the helicopter is dropping
John Francis
Apparently, what you understand isn't physics.
It takes TIME to get up to speed from what?
If you start off in the chopper, you're dropping at the same speed it is.
Of course once you step outside you have to consider wind resistance.
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Bill Heyman
news:mnq7evc8h39dgmoga...@4ax.com:
Well, if the aircraft is still flying maybe, just maybe, because of the
downwash, one might jump and count to four and pull the ripcord, and be
away from the craft (it overflying your location.) But the one I went
down in had no lift and so to jump meant the body was momentarily
suspended as the craft came down. Very bad. I did not have a chute at
the time,and getting out, around the door gunners, was problematical. We
landed, in a sandbank, next to the Mekong. I was fortunate in not having
to test the problem.
There were many bar bets and shots of Crown Royal as to who would jump
from a huey which was put into autorotation. No one that I knew ever did
that.
John Schmitt
"Dave Kenworthy" <dave.ke...@bt0penworld.com> writes:
>> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
>> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
>> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
>I remember news coverage of such an incident in the UK about five or six
>years ago (?). The helicopter was on the ground, it was some sort of local
>fair IIRC.
It was widely reported in the British press, although I cannot
locate it. As you say, the helicopter was on the ground with its
rotor idling. The victim was a female in her mid twenties on her
first (and last) jump. Helicopters are dangerous things. A couple
of years ago some UK millionaire landed in his helicopter to meet
his young daughter, picked her up high and "Bap-Bap-BAP".
John "ask Mike Smith about helicopters" Schmitt
Rob Poole
>
> "J Asking" <justas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f3d15258.03060...@posting.google.com...
> > Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> > parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> > blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
>
> I remember news coverage of such an incident in the UK about five or six
> years ago (?). The helicopter was on the ground, it was some sort of local
> fair IIRC.
From <URL:http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm198889/cmhansrd/1989-05-22/Debate-5.html>
'Miss Ann Widdecombe (Maidstone)
...
Almost more serious is the problem of parachuting at Headcorn.
I am sure that the House will remember two instances in the past
two years of civilian parachutists being killed as a result of
collision with aircraft. The first concerned one of my constituents,
a young girl making a jump for charity, who fell on to the rotating
blades of a helicopter that was on the landing ground. When I raised
the issue and asked how landing parachutists and aircraft taking off
could possibly have been allowed to mix, I was told, "It was her
first jump : she was inexperienced. Had she known what to do, the
tragedy might have been averted." The second incident did not involve
a constituent, but it happened at Headcorn. This was a very
experienced civilian parachutist, again a young girl but in this
case on her 35th jump. As she was landing, she fell on to the
propellors of an aircraft. It would be very simple, and it would
alleviate a great deal of distress both to relatives and to others,
to separate completely, by law, the areas where parachutists land
and those where aircraft land and take off. I have no idea why that
suggestion is being so comprehensively ignored and why such a
mountain is being made of what I believe would be a molehill of
legislation that could save lives.'
Rob.
--
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Ben Zimmer
>
> In article <bbtsf5$qb6$1...@titan.btinternet.com>, dave.ke...@bt0penworld.com says...
> >
> > "J Asking" <justas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:f3d15258.03060...@posting.google.com...
> > > Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> > > parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> > > blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
> >
> > I remember news coverage of such an incident in the UK about five or six
> > years ago (?). The helicopter was on the ground, it was some sort of local
> > fair IIRC.
>
> From <URL:http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm198889/cmhansrd/1989-05-22/Debate-5.html>
>
> 'Miss Ann Widdecombe (Maidstone)
> ...
> Almost more serious is the problem of parachuting at Headcorn.
> I am sure that the House will remember two instances in the past
> two years of civilian parachutists being killed as a result of
> collision with aircraft. The first concerned one of my constituents,
> a young girl making a jump for charity, who fell on to the rotating
> blades of a helicopter that was on the landing ground. When I raised
> the issue and asked how landing parachutists and aircraft taking off
> could possibly have been allowed to mix, I was told, "It was her
> first jump : she was inexperienced. Had she known what to do, the
From Nexis:
The Guardian (London)
August 10, 1987
Woman killed by helicopter blades
Onlookers watched helplessly yesterday as a woman parachutist
landed among thrashing helicopter rotor blades at the end of
a 5,000 ft jump on to Thruxton airfield, Hampshire.
She was cut to pieces as the Enstrom two-seater helicopter
hovered above the ground, ready to take off. The machine
turned on to its side, slightly injuring the trainee pilot,
Mr Terence Cooper, aged 39, of Tarrant Hinston, Dorset, and
his instructor, Mr Peter Wyatt, aged 56, of Salisbury,
Wiltshire, who were taken to hospital and later allowed home.
The victim was named as Paula Goodayle, aged 21, of Kent.
Police said she had been making her first jump in a group of
five beginners at the Thruxton Parachute Club, which shares
land at the airfield with the Thruxton Flight Centre.
RM Mentock
>
> In article <20030608223656...@mb-m19.aol.com>,
> Lots42 The Library Avenger <lot...@aol.comaol.com> wrote:
> >>>I thought humans were denser than aircraft, and fall faster, hence no
> >>>gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
> >>>
> >>>Brian
> >
> >Sure but doesn't it take TIME to get up to speed? If the helicopter is dropping
> >like a stone and you leap out...from what I understand the copter will be going
> >faster then you for a couple seconds.
>
> Apparently, what you understand isn't physics.
In some universes. I can think of two--Hanna, and Barbara
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mais cette question nous entraînerait trop loin
Lee Ayrton
>>> I thought humans were denser than aircraft, and fall faster, hence no
>>> gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
> Sure but doesn't it take TIME to get up to speed? If the helicopter is
> dropping like a stone and you leap out...from what I understand the
> copter will be going faster then you for a couple seconds.
And so AFU turns from how many monkeys can type on the head of a pin to
how much faster lead will fall than wood. And I inadvertently started a
household wiring thread.
Oh, the shame. Oh, the humanity.
Lee "I plead no contest to the charge, your Honor, but I maintain that I
did not know that he would be falling past my window just as I pulled the
trigger" Ayrton
Sandy
> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
I have not heard about this incident and I'm fairly active in the U.S.
skydiving community. Stories like this tend to become part of
skydiving folklore. Under modern parachuting gear, where parachutes
behave more like airfoils than umbrellas, it's difficult to imagine
someone letting themselves land on top of a helicopter. Doesn't mean
it didn't happen, of course - a parachutist landed in front of an
airplane that was waiting on a taxi way and got her parachute caught
up in the propeller last year.
You might have better luck asking the British Parachute Association:
http://www.bpa.org.uk
Or the U.S. equivalent: http://www.uspa.org
-Sandra 'Ouch' Maynard
JP
> open my parachute. An indescribable feeling of relief came over me as
> I was pulled skywards and the parachute billowed above me." This was
> probably the first successful parachute jump from a helicopter.
Certainly not the last - people jump out of helicopters all the time, its
called a sport...
My assumption would be that in an accident if the blades are turning,
especially auto-rotating, then the helicopter is in less than free-fall.
Therefore if you were to jump out, you would descend faster than the
helicopter. Steer clear of the falling machine (using your surfboard of
course), then pull your rip-cord.
I think the initial poster was referring to a parachutist falling into
the blades of someone else's helicopter, not the one he or she jumped out
of.
My 2 cents Canadian.
JP
Brian Thorn
wrote:
>>I thought humans were denser than aircraft, and fall faster, hence no
>>gruesome rotor tragedies are possible bailing out of a helicopter.
>After the chute opens, what next?
It seems unlikely the jumper and the helicopter would be in the same
place if the helicopter's rotors are still turning. If they're not
turning, the discussion is moot.
Brian
TeaLady (Mari C.)
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> From
> <URL:http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm1988
> 89/cmhansrd/1989-05-22/Debate-5.html>
>
> 'Miss Ann Widdecombe (Maidstone)
> ...
snip of large part of quote
> It would be very simple, and it
> would alleviate a great deal of distress both to relatives and
> to others, to separate completely, by law, the areas where
> parachutists land and those where aircraft land and take off. I
> have no idea why that suggestion is being so comprehensively
> ignored and why such a mountain is being made of what I believe
> would be a molehill of legislation that could save lives.'
>
> Rob.
>
Well, it seems that some folks just don't learn unless they
experience it.
Warning - long internymenamennom to follow.
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Unknown
wrote:
>I have not heard about this incident and I'm fairly active in the U.S.
>skydiving community. Stories like this tend to become part of
>skydiving folklore.
It did. See:
http://makeshorter.com/?13B82f4V
>Under modern parachuting gear, where parachutes
>behave more like airfoils than umbrellas, it's difficult to imagine
>someone letting themselves land on top of a helicopter.
Object fixations a bitch. I don't get it either but it
happens. At our DZ a student doing a first AFF jump on a day
with borderline winds cleared the building by a good margin
on final and got fixated on it. He was headed for a clear
field but staring at the building he just past, he did a 180
and headed down wind right into the building.
Ron Albright
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She was not a novice but not sure of her total jumps. This is not the young girl doing her first jump for Charity 1987 which i did find some information about I have only recently heard of her death but i cannot find any information on the accident. I was a close friend of her at the time If anyone can give me any further information it would be most appreciated Thank you Ian
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I know there was an enquiry not long after - which I can't remember the outcome of - but I know the parachute centre closed down some time after - it's almost impossible to imagine how mixing a static line parachute jump with an airfield was deemed safe.
I was a terrible thing that happened that day - I'm conscious it's the 30th anniversary of her death this August - I'll pray for her soul on the day of her death as I have at many times done since - Tom
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Thruxton aerodrome in october 1987 if i recall. I lived in West Sussex at the time, and was on my way back from visting a friend in hospital in Oxford and, as i am a plane spotter, planned to visit a fly in at nearby Popham airfield the next day and ended up staying at a B&B nearly opposite Thruxton aerodrome. In the morning at the breakfast table i was talking to a family from Maidenhead in Berkshire. They were doing a parachute jump that morning for charity. The lady (21 yo if i recall) who was tragically killed by the blades of the hovering helicopter was the very lady i was talking to that very morning. She was telling me she was nervous but excited. When i got home that evening i read the news on the TV.
Witnesses said they could hear the lady’s screams above the sound of the hovering helicopter
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> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
David DeLaney
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> Many years ago I heard a gruesome radio news report about a
> parachutist who descended to her death into rotating helicopter
> blades...can anyone confirm if this really happened?
Mark Shaw
> https://apnews.com/2e5ced11a31098248aadb5f1000c840c#:~:text=ANDOVER%2C%20England%20(AP)%20_,men%20inside%20suffered%20minor%20injuries.
"swirling blades of a helicopter." Pfaugh. Helicopters have rotors, not
blades, and they don't "swirl."
Obviously Fake News.
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Hey google users, get a fucking newsreader.
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“Pro-life is a propaganda term that isn’t real, like healthy ice
cream and handsome testicles,” - Michelle Wolf, 4th July 2018