Ever heard of this haunted ebay painting?

[ShortMuffin]

I recently read about the haunted ebay painting, have you all ever heard
about it and if you do, do you have any bad feelings about the painting?
Tell me about it!
Amanda

[Stephanie D. Rendino]

It was a fascinating, if unsettling, painting. There was an
angry-looking little boy, with a girl standing beside him, facing him.
She looked more like a marionette, with jointed limbs, and was holding
some piece of machinery. Behind them was a window on which hands were
tapping. The first thing I thought on seeing it was that it was
holding some thing inside it. Very creepy.

[Daniela]

> It was a fascinating, if unsettling, painting. There was an
> angry-looking little boy, with a girl standing beside him, facing him.
> She looked more like a marionette, with jointed limbs, and was holding
> some piece of machinery. Behind them was a window on which hands were
> tapping. The first thing I thought on seeing it was that it was
> holding some thing inside it. Very creepy.

Ok guys, I wanna see it too! :o) Where can I find it?

Daniela

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Before you buy.

[Ayleth]

Daniela asked:

>Ok guys, I wanna see it too! :o) Where can I find it?

Here's the auction posting in its entirety:
http://www.whattheheck.com/ebay/scary.html

Personally, I think it's a cute story, but an obvious hoax. I mean, look at
the pictures without reading the little tale they've written to go with it. I
don't disagree that it's an unsettling painting, though. Someone was a couple
clicks off center, for sure.

~ Ayleth

[<ouroboros>]

Ayleth wrote:

I had this on my desktop for a while- I liked it
Nothing spooky happened...damn.

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[ImDanielaM]

OMG!! That thing is just horrible!! Yuck!!

I don't care about what the tale says, I don't like it, period.... You
wouldn't get me near that thing if my life depended on it...

Serious bad vibes on that one.... gack!

Daniela

>I
>don't disagree that it's an unsettling painting, though. Someone was a
>couple
>clicks off center, for sure.

Unsettling is an understatement Ayleth... it's just horrible.

[Ayleth]

ouroboros commented:

>I had this on my desktop for a while- I liked it
>Nothing spooky happened...damn.

LOL, one of the guys on one of hubby's mailing lists keeps sending the picture
out to the group as tongue-in-cheek "punishment" for saying things he doesn't
like. Weirds hubby out every time he sees it.

I do NOT intend to slight or offend anyone here who gets different feelings
about the painting, but I believe this is a hoax. This is someone who wants to
be responsible for creating a famous urban legend.

The painting is trippy, no doubt, but "disturbing" and "haunted" are two
completely different things.

~ Ayleth

[SERCETSPY]

Yeah, I feel just normal, nothing bad, I looked at the painting, yeah it is
creepy but nothing bad there. though.
Amanda

Stephanie D. Rendino wrote in message
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[ImDanielaM]

Dear Ayleth,

I don't believe the legend, I just think that picture is horrid. I am an
artist, and I love to draw the macabre myself, and yes, my work is scary, but
there's something about this painting that just gives me the jeebies. Is it
haunted? I don't know... All I DO know is I don't like it.

Love and light,

Daniela

[Ayleth]

Daniela mentioned:

>I am an
>artist, and I love to draw the macabre myself, and yes, my work is scary,
>but
>there's something about this painting that just gives me the jeebies. Is it
>haunted? I don't know... All I DO know is I don't like it.

<perk> You draw macabre stuff? Scary stuff? COOL! Do you have any of it on a
web page so I can see? :)

You know what I have always wanted? A painting of a haunted castle on a "dark
and stormy night" ... all in blacks and dark blues. I have been seeing the
exact right picture in my mind for as long as I can remember, but I've never
seen it done.

LOL ... or maybe I watched too much Scooby Do. :)

~ Ayleth

[ImDanielaM]

LOL! Ayleth... I haven't had time to make a web page yet, but I can email you
some if you like!

Daniela

[Ayleth]

Daniela offered:

>LOL! Ayleth... I haven't had time to make a web page yet, but I can email
>you
>some if you like!

Bonus! I would love to see your work. Thank you!

~ Ayleth
All happy 'cuz spooky stuff is coming!

[Stephanie D. Rendino]

On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:26:34 GMT, Daniela <ImDa...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>> It was a fascinating, if unsettling, painting. There was an
>> angry-looking little boy, with a girl standing beside him, facing him.
>> She looked more like a marionette, with jointed limbs, and was holding
>> some piece of machinery. Behind them was a window on which hands were
>> tapping. The first thing I thought on seeing it was that it was
>> holding some thing inside it. Very creepy.
>
>
>Ok guys, I wanna see it too! :o) Where can I find it?

Dunno. It was sold some time ago. Considering how sensitive you are,
you might not want to look at it, actually. Ceg forbade Sarah to.

[smo...@my-deja.com]

I think this is it.
I'm sorry, I don't know how to link, you'll have to copy and paste.

http://datasinc.hypermart.net/creepy.htm

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--
Neuvaasoil le Tuatha de Danann.

[ImDanielaM]

I can see why Steph... It is horrid.. I don't buy the story that the painting
actually "changed", but I seriously sense something horrible about that
painting.

Those children are the same ages as my son and daughter, and it really freaked
me out... I don't think that's the reason I feel this way though.. Maybe the
vibes come from the person who painted it?

Daniela

[Ayleth]

Daniela suggested:

>I don't think that's the reason I feel this way though.. Maybe the
>vibes come from the person who painted it?

Oh, you TOTALLY found the words I was looking for there. It's the painter that
bothers me, too. Good call.

~ Ayleth

[ImDanielaM]

>Oh, you TOTALLY found the words I was looking for there. It's the painter
>that
>bothers me, too. Good call.
>

That is a sick person, excuse me... too much pain in those kids, and the hands
in the window...it is evil, I'm sorry...

Daniela

[Lance Foster]

ShortMuffin wrote:

For you old enough to remember the TV show "Night Gallery", I would say
this picture is creepy, but I saw ones on that show that were even
creepier.

Also for those that like creepy paintings and dislike clowns, take a look
at:
http://www.clownz.com/picturearc.html

cheers!

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[ImDanielaM]

I remember Night Gallery, and this one takes the cake... It's not the content
Lance, there's something more here...

And I disregarded the story all together...

There's something evil about this one, like I said before, I paint spooky
things all the time, drew it all my life practically...there's a difference
from the macabre to something that is inertly (sp?) evil.

Daniela

[Peyton Hunter]

*shudder* I just got major goosebumps looking at this picture...*shudder*
....The little boy's face...

Pey
Porch Bonny Wee Fair Irish Lass
Official Giver of the Raspberries
Keeper of the Bunny Slippers
Rowdy Girl

~~And if it's only tears and pain, isn't it still worth the cost~~ AKUS

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[Grinch]

I guess if we put a bit of ourselves in what we create than whoever created
that painting was disturbed..

Grinch

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[ImDanielaM]

>I guess if we put a bit of ourselves in what we create than whoever created
>that painting was disturbed..
>
>Grinch
>
>

Dear Grinch,

Agreed... Definately..

Oh, and by the way, why are you the Grinch? You seem like a sweet heart to
me... :o)

Daniela

[smo...@my-deja.com]

This painting reminds me of a batch of paintings we found at a farm my
sister was renting. We had to clean up a lot, (someday I might go into
the oddity of it all, just to bore you.) but these paintings were all
creepy.We chalked it up to a poorly skilled art student on acid. Maybe
it's more of this cat's work surfacing.
(Damn, and I thought I burnt them all.)

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[ImDanielaM]

>This painting reminds me of a batch of paintings we found at a farm my
>sister was renting. We had to clean up a lot, (someday I might go into
>the oddity of it all, just to bore you.) but these paintings were all
>creepy.We chalked it up to a poorly skilled art student on acid. Maybe
>it's more of this cat's work surfacing.
>(Damn, and I thought I burnt them all.)

Dear Smoque....

You have GOT to read this short story by Stephen King, "The Road Virus Heads
North"

It fits the "tale" of this painting, and your post so much it is weird..

Daniela

[Grinch]

Someone has to be I guess. To be honest I think some people are cast into
the roles of villains, without really being villains,they just have a
lamentable habit of telling the truth..

Grinch

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[ImDanielaM]

>To be honest I think some people are cast into
>the roles of villains, without really being villains,they just have a
>lamentable habit of telling the truth.

Oh how true hon, I got barbequed over this...

Daniela

[Grinch]

I'm sure there are a few people like me that might post, but simply don't
want to deal with all the flames and trolls and unpleasantness that has been
going on. I just quietly killfile the obnoxious posts and only reply in an
innocuous manner. I see no need to add fuel to a fire that is already
burning..

Grinch

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[ImDanielaM]

Dear Grinch,

I wish you would check out the story by Stephen King called: The Road Virus
Heads North"...

Also, if there is anyone left here on afgs that arent trolls, I could use some
help deciphering some mesages on tape...

I am willing to give them up so someone can make some sense out of them..

Daniela

[Captain Kundalini]

That's a very good point, but isn't Truth subjective? For instance, a
good example is:

Jesus: I look for Truth and find that I get damned.
Pilate: But what IS Truth? Is Truth unchanging Law. We both have Truths. Are
mine the same as yours?

--
Peace,

Captain Kundalini
Porch Security Chief and
Charter Member of the Porch Power Think Tank

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[Mugo]

I think it's significant that the girl is really a doll, but the boy is real.
I think the boy died, and the girl was his only playmate, but was just
imaginary.
If I were a bettin' man, I would say he died of TB just after a new moon.
But that's ust my .02 I could be wrong. :)

The pics of the children "exiting" the painting is obviously fake, and very
reproducible with a strong flashlight and camera.

Mugo

Ayleth wrote:

--
"Our false perception of an infinite universe persists only because of our
inability to comprehend how very, very infinitesimal we all really are." -Me

[Grinch]

Unh.. I think we have different bibles...

Grinch

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[Captain Kundalini]

This is true because I was quoting from "Jesus Christ: Superstar". :-)

--
Peace,

Captain Kundalini
Porch Security Chief and
Charter Member of the Porch Power Think Tank

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[Grinch]

Wasn't that a play? I recall hearing something about it..

Grinch

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[BarbiGIRLnut]

>
>ouroboros commented:
>
>>I had this on my desktop for a while- I liked it
>>Nothing spooky happened...damn.
>
>LOL, one of the guys on one of hubby's mailing lists keeps sending the
>picture
>out to the group as tongue-in-cheek "punishment" for saying things he doesn't
>like. Weirds hubby out every time he sees it.
>
>I do NOT intend to slight or offend anyone here who gets different feelings
>about the painting, but I believe this is a hoax. This is someone who wants
>to
>be responsible for creating a famous urban legend.
>
>The painting is trippy, no doubt, but "disturbing" and "haunted" are two
>completely different things.
>
>~ Ayleth
>
>
>
>
>
>

the part that really frightens me is that someone paid them 1,000.00 for it
Not only am I a client...
I am a member of the Rowdy girls

[Uriel - Guardian Angel of Naughty Girls]

You really are a youngster, aren't ya?

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:32:22 -0400, "Grinch" <notac...@zip.com>
wrote:

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Fadder Uri -
Bringing faith to the doubtful
Doubt to the faithful
Befriending the friendless
Giving odor to the odorless
Clothing the sick and
Laying my healing hands upon the naked

http://uriel443.home.att.net/
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[Uriel - Guardian Angel of Naughty Girls]

Hmmm... I thought I was familiar with all of Mr. King's short stories,
but I don't recall this one... where might I find it?

On 27 Oct 2000 05:01:03 GMT, imdan...@cs.com (ImDanielaM) wrote:
..
>
>You have GOT to read this short story by Stephen King, "The Road Virus Heads
>North"
>
>It fits the "tale" of this painting, and your post so much it is weird..
>
>Daniela

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[ImDanielaM]

>Hmmm... I thought I was familiar with all of Mr. King's short stories,
>but I don't recall this one... where might I find it?

I have a book called: "New Stories of Horror and Suspense...999"

Edited by Al Sarrantonio

It features never before published tales by William Peter Blatty, Neil Gaiman,
Stephen King, Eric Van Lustbader, and David Morrel + 24 other masters of
fear....

It's an excellent story...hope you can find this book.

Daniela

[Uriel - Guardian Angel of Naughty Girls]

What's the ISBN number? I can find it that way...

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[ImDanielaM]

>What's the ISBN number? I can find it that way...

Here u go hon:

isbn:0-380-97740-0

published by Avon Books

[Philip Cone]

Grinch wrote:
>
> Someone has to be I guess. To be honest I think some people are cast into
> the roles of villains, without really being villains,they just have a
> lamentable habit of telling the truth..

The truth or honest opinion? My own wish is to be able to see the truth
of things instead of always my own internal "honest opinion" which is of
questionable validity.

-Philip

--
"As we grow older
The world becomes stranger, the pattern more complicated
Of dead and living. Not the intense moment
Isolated, with no before and after,
But a lifetime burning in every moment." T.S.Eliot

[Captain Kundalini]

Since you've never heard it or seen the musical, I'll give you a little
bit of background on it.
"Jesus Christ: Superstar", written and composed by Tim Rice and Andrew
Lloyd Webber, first exploded onto the scene in 1971. It is a Rock Opera
which chronicles the last week of the life of Jesus. Some INCREDIBLE talent
was gathered for the production of the album. Chief among them were Ian
Gillan of Deep Purple as Jesus, Yvonne Elliman as Mary Magdelene, who did
some great work with Eric Clapton, and Murray Head as Judas Iscariot.
Several #1 songs came from this Rock Opera, one of which was "I Don't Know
How To Love Him". It was made into a film in 1973 and starred Ted Healy as
Jesus. Depending on who you speak to, the movie was either spectacular or a
monumental flop. However, it brought Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber into
the spotlight as major writing and compsing talents. I recommend that you
get the Original CD with the original cast and that you give it a listen.
:-)

--
Peace,

Captain Kundalini
Porch Security Chief and
Charter Member of the Porch Power Think Tank

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[Jason Sanderson]

Good Grief! Talk about dating one's self! (Did you see 'Godspell' too?)

XB

Dcn. Jason (who just had a flashback to bellbottoms and love beads)

[Captain Kundalini]

LOL! As a matter of fact, I did. it was groovy! Peace, Brother1 V :-)

--
Peace,

Captain Kundalini
Porch Security Chief and
Charter Member of the Porch Power Think Tank

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[Uriel - Guardian Angel of Naughty Girls]

Thank you, dearie... I'll put that on my list at Amazon..

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[kandle1]

"Ayleth" <ayl...@aol.communist> wrote in message
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> Daniela asked:
>
> >Ok guys, I wanna see it too! :o) Where can I find it?
>
> Here's the auction posting in its entirety:
> http://www.whattheheck.com/ebay/scary.html
>
> Personally, I think it's a cute story, but an obvious hoax. I mean, look
at
> the pictures without reading the little tale they've written to go with
it. I
> don't disagree that it's an unsettling painting, though. Someone was a
couple
> clicks off center, for sure.

I'm not a psychologist or anything, but my impression of the painting is
this: that it was possibly painted by an adult with child abuse in their
history...possibly as a perpetrator and a formerly abused child.

I see the following (possible) symbolism:

A man's face with a boy's body -
This may represent a man who was sexually abused as a child, and
therefore who has problems with feelings of inadequacy as a man.
Abuse endured as a child may have led the artist to the
same tendencies as an adult.

The girl as a wooden, jointed figure, rather than human -
If the artist is a child abuser, this may indicate a need to deny
that little children - maybe only girls - are human. In order
to be able to carry out - or fantasize carrying out - the
deeds of abuse on the child, he cannot allow himself to
see the child as human and feeling.

Her hollow eyes may symbolize her inability to identify
him, or possibly be another part of the wish for her
to be inanimate. A person's eyes are the windows
to their souls, they say. And the artist doesn't wish to
see the girl as having a soul, feeling...etc.

The piece of 'machinery' held by the girl -
Very strange. May represent (in an abstract way),
something that was used in abuse against the artist
as a child, or that he/she may have used on a child.
It may also represent a "weapon" the child has to
use against the abuser, such as telling someone
of the abuse.

The children's hands in the window -
The hands are disembodied, which may again represent
a wish to see children as inanimate or not whole or human.
May also represent the isolation the artist felt during
his/her own abuse as a child, or be symbolic of
children in the artist's history that were abused.

The "ambience" of the picture.
Dark and brooding pictoral environments are notorious
in paintings representing tremendous negative emotions
and depression.

Wow...that's a pretty depressing and sad interpretation,
but I felt this the first time I saw this...and feel the same
way now - months later.

Kandle
Keeper of the Porch Candles

[Grinch]

Oddly enough I just read your post (computer problems) and a friend recently
loaned me the compilation book in which that story is included. Odd
coincidence..

Grinch

ImDanielaM <imdan...@cs.com> wrote in message

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[BarbiGIRLnut]

that was a wonderful interpretation! i loved it!

[BarbiGIRLnut]

>
>Daniela mentioned:
>
>>I am an
>>artist, and I love to draw the macabre myself, and yes, my work is scary,
>>but
>>there's something about this painting that just gives me the jeebies. Is it
>>haunted? I don't know... All I DO know is I don't like it.
>
><perk> You draw macabre stuff? Scary stuff? COOL! Do you have any of it on
>a
>web page so I can see? :)
>
>You know what I have always wanted? A painting of a haunted castle on a
>"dark
>and stormy night" ... all in blacks and dark blues. I have been seeing the
>exact right picture in my mind for as long as I can remember, but I've never
>seen it done.
>
>LOL ... or maybe I watched too much Scooby Do. :)
>
>~ Ayleth
>
>
>
>
>
>
AHEM
--there could never be enough scooby-doo!

[Peyton Hunter]

Wow!

Pey
Porch Bonny Wee Fair Irish Lass
Official Giver of the Raspberries
Keeper of the Bunny Slippers
Rowdy Girl

~~And if it's only tears and pain, isn't it still worth the cost~~ AKUS

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[Ayleth]

Kandle reflected:

>I'm not a psychologist or anything, but my impression of the painting is
>this: that it was possibly painted by an adult with child abuse in their
>history...possibly as a perpetrator and a formerly abused child.

It's interesting that everyone who's commented on it so far seems to have a
sense that the painter is/was male.

The hands remind me of VC Andrews' "Flowers in the Attic". As Kandle points
out, they are small hands -- not adult hands.

What exactly is it the girl is holding? A carburator? A canister bomb?
Everything else in the painting can be associated with children or a child's
perspective except this.

The painting disturbs a lot of people. As Kandle also pointed out, it reflects
dark symbolism that suggests the artist had major issues.

I personally find it predatory to put a painting like this up for auction as a
"haunted" painting. If the seller of this picture is also the artist, the
motivation is clearly to gain attention by spreading a hoax. If they acquired
the painting as they say they did, it takes the worst kind of opportunist to
prey upon the emotions of the artist as well as those who see the painting by
"misdirecting" that energy toward the supernatural for a quick buck.

~ Ayleth

[Stephanie D. Rendino]

On 28 Oct 2000 15:58:25 GMT, ayl...@aol.communist (Ayleth) wrote:

>I personally find it predatory to put a painting like this up for auction as a
>"haunted" painting. If the seller of this picture is also the artist, the
>motivation is clearly to gain attention by spreading a hoax. If they acquired
>the painting as they say they did, it takes the worst kind of opportunist to
>prey upon the emotions of the artist as well as those who see the painting by
>"misdirecting" that energy toward the supernatural for a quick buck.

Supposing it was painted by a terribly disturbed person, it may well
BE haunted, and marketable as such.

[ImDanielaM]

Hello all...

Well... I am happy to say this has been a very interesting and intelligent
thread. :o) I do agree with everyone on this.. (amazing, isn't it?)

I have never, in my life, seen a painting that has given me such yucky vibes
before. Someone needs to burn that thing.

Daniela

[Ayleth]

Stephanie pointed out:

>Supposing it was painted by a terribly disturbed person, it may well
>BE haunted, and marketable as such.

This is a GREAT comment, and really made me think. Here's a theory to
consider:

I don't paint; my outlet is writing. They are both forms of expression, and a
means of "exorcizing" inner conflicts/feelings. I've never heard of an
original manuscript being haunted, but I have heard of haunted paintings.

I'm thinking that if I were tortured enough to create such a painting, I would
probably "haunt" the source of my torture, rather than the outlet. That
doesn't explain how objects like paintings and coatracks can seemingly house
spiritual energy, so I considered my favorite painting ... hanging on the wall
in my parlor.

I have invested considerable time meditating on the painting over the years.
Nearly everyone has had a painting "speak to them" at some point in their life
-- it just grabs their attention, and they "get" it. I like this painting
because I can imagine myself standing there next to the subject, overlooking
this peaceful place. This isn't supernatural at all -- it's just a painting I
really dig, and I spend a lot of time contemplating it.

So am I "charging" it with (for lack of better words) positive vibes? Some
here have suggested that negative energy directed toward a certain place or
thing over a period of time can cause a negative "charge". The interesting
question becomes, is the object itself so negatively charged that it ATTRACTS
negativity? Feeds on it?

Wouldn't we, then, be speaking of an object that would attract those things we
describe as "never human"? I'm speculating that if an object is haunted, it
perhaps isn't by anything that was ever human, but rather, by something that
feeds on the negative energy the object evokes.

Just a theory.

~ Ayleth

[Grinch]

You may be right. I've often thought that there are places that attract
spirits that were never human, no theories on why.

Grinch

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