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RedBear

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I don't know if anyone else saw it, but HBO had a special "Inside The
Haunting" last night that was great.

From what I saw, this is going to be one of the best movies produced in a
long time as far as the horror genre goes. The movie looks as if it is going
to rely on much of the psychological horror aspects that have been pretty
much unheard of since the days of Vincent Price.

I can't wait to see it...

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maia

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I saw that last night, too. It does look like an exciting movie, but I
have to try *really* hard not to compare it to the original, or the book
-- both of which are favorites. And I could see that it's not going to
have much of anything to do with the book, aside from the names of the
characters and the house...Kind of like "The Shining." No, topiary
animals just won't work -- how 'bout a maze? And the little kid will
talk to his finger instead of an apparition of an older boy...Jeez, like
it wasn't scary enough the way SK wrote it! I have nothing against the
actors in that (and it is scary), I just have to treat it as a separate
entity from the book. This version of "The Haunting" seems to be going
along these same lines. No, nobody would buy that these people were
going to explore a haunted house, it had better be a sleep disorder
study. And nobody's going to be scared by a few weird thumpings or
statues moving behind the characters' backs -- we'd better have the
house attack them! And then we can use a lot of CGI and blow even those
jaded, Freddy-Kruger-raised Gen Xers little minds...

I refuse to get my hopes up because I'm going to *ENJOY* this movie,
damn it! ;)

I can't help my cynicism..._The Haunting of Hill House_ is one of my
sacred cow books. Shirley Jackson really understood horror, in a real
palpable way -- and in a way that no amount of flashy F/X could
duplicate. So I'm really not sure what they were trying to do with
altering the story that much...

Jeez, I'm an old fart already...and I'm not even twenty-five yet!

*grin*
maia
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RedBear

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Hey Maia, I know what you mean. I never saw the original movie or got to
read the book but other things have been the same way (SK's Christine and the
movie were WAY apart)...as for being an old fart, I've been one for 20 years
- and I'm only 25! -- Bran http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/1068

Toni

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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BTW, Turner Classic Movies is showing the 1963 version of "The Haunting" this
Saturday at 5:00PM Eastern time. VCR alert -- tape this one, it's worth it!


Toni
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dreadnaut

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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RedBear wrote in message <7n4lsb$tlo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>I don't know if anyone else saw it, but HBO had a special "Inside The
>Haunting" last night that was great.


I caught it. Wasn't going to say anything because it frankly killed what
little enthusiasm I had for the film. As I suspected, just another CGI
muppet show. Looks more like Disney than Shirley Jackson. I wish, if they
were going to do that, they would have picked a different story to do it
with and left the original film alone.

Dash Martin

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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yeah I saw it too, looks cool, I've already got my tickets on reserve, I've had
the release date marked on the calander for a month and 1/2! can't wait!


Katie

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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It looks like there will more of the same from the TV ads. we'll go through
a whole slew of them.

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RedBear wrote in message <7n4lsb$tlo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>I don't know if anyone else saw it, but HBO had a special "Inside The
>Haunting" last night that was great.
>

>From what I saw, this is going to be one of the best movies produced in a
>long time as far as the horror genre goes. The movie looks as if it is
going
>to rely on much of the psychological horror aspects that have been pretty
>much unheard of since the days of Vincent Price.
>
>I can't wait to see it...
>

maia

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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I already did tape it -- the last time it was on...and it was letterbox,
too!!

YEA!

*grin-grin*

Silver Rain

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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I've gotten to the point where I see the movie first (preferably at a
theater the first time - for the full immersion (sp) effect), then I
read the book. I was terribly disappointed in the movie "The Shining"
because I read the book first. My first problem was Jack Nicholson as
the father. In the book the hotel gradually made him crazy; Nicholson
looks not quite there from the git go!! And Shelly Duvall as the mother
--- eeks!! If my kid were in danger I would have plowed him with that
bat without hesitation!! And the part about the old woman and the
father was terrifying in the book but funny in the movie. The part in
the book that really got to me was when Danny was in the playground
after it snowed and was in that cylinder. Now that had me talking to
the book the way I talk to the characters in a movie (my friend hates to
go to the movies with me because of this!! = ] ).

"Practical Magic" is another example. I love the movie!! The book is
almost totally different. When they say a movie is based on a book
sometimes it's almost hard to tell they're the same story!! The book
"Practical Magic" was good as well but in a different way.

King is one of those authors that doesn't translate well into the film
medium for me, but Clive Barker is!! I love the films based on his
books. "Night Breed" was excellent!! As were the 'Hellraiser' movies
based on "The Hell Bound Heart".

I like to see the movie then read the book. You get more surprises that
way and less expectations.

One movie that surprised me was "National Lampoon's -- American Werewolf
in London" I was expecting a pure comedy (yes there were many laughs),
but that dream sequence scared the begeebies out of me and the first
time his friend came back I just about jumped out of my seat!!! That
was a great transformation scene too!!

Other horror movies that get to me are the ones that get inside your
head and mess with your personal phobias. Dream movies -- like the
first few "Nightmare On Elmstreet" movies and "Dreamscape" bother me. A
few other movies that got to me were the first black and white version
of "Night of the Living Dead", "The Brood" and "Videodrome". I also
like the first "Phantasm" movie.

Gods!! How I love a good scare at the movies!!
One last thing -- does any one remember a movie (from the late 70's I
think) where this killer was living in the attic of a girls dormitory.
He would occasionally come down out of the attic, kill one of the girls
then return to the attic. I remember Margot Kidder in it. And I think
the original name was "Silent Night, Evil Night". I would love to find
this on tape if possible. I also like her in "The Reincarnation of
Peter Proud".

Silver Rain
Porch Vampire


Dash Martin

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Oh! I loed practical magic! I bought the book by accident it was on sale for
$2.00 at B & N and I liked the cover picture I was going to scan it and use
it for something ( so I bought it just for the cover) then I looked at it
and realized what the title was, lol (after I had seen the movie) so I read
it, it was pretty good.

Ginnaphure


Justine Faulkenburg-Schmidt

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Silver Rain wrote:

> I've gotten to the point where I see the movie first (preferably at a
> theater the first time - for the full immersion (sp) effect), then I
> read the book.

I'm still stuck on doing the opposite when I can, but by no means does that
mean that I automatically like the book better than the movie.
Unfortunately, I can't think of my best shining example of that right now.
But there was a movie that I saw, then read the book and was soooooooo
disappointed with the book ... go figure ...

> I was terribly disappointed in the movie "The Shining"
> because I read the book first. My first problem was Jack Nicholson as
> the father. In the book the hotel gradually made him crazy; Nicholson
> looks not quite there from the git go!! And Shelly Duvall as the mother
> --- eeks!!

I read that book first, and I had some funny idea that the wife was well,
pretty in at least a more conventional way ... not someone who could make a
convincing Olive Oyl, anyway ... but there was a sense in the book that she
was a bit of a looker ... Anyway, I couldn't agree with you more about Jack
Nicholson! Yes, he looked "the worse for wear" from the very beginning. I
read that Steven King really didn't like the movie version because Jack
Nicholson was "being Jack Nicholson" and while I've liked him in other
movies, that's it - you do pretty much always get the same thing from him.

> "Practical Magic" is another example. I love the movie!! The book is
> almost totally different. When they say a movie is based on a book
> sometimes it's almost hard to tell they're the same story!! The book
> "Practical Magic" was good as well but in a different way.

Yes, there seems to be a very loose definition of "based on the novel" ...
I saw that movie first (on video) liked it okay, wasn't tooottallly
impressed with it for how much I wanted to see it, but was really blown
away when I read the book - it was almost a different story altogether!
Did Alice Hoffman have anything to do with the screenplay? I can't imagine
that she did!

Justine

LITTLEPJoo

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Erica wrote:
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>Gods!! How I love a good scare at the movies!!
>One last thing -- does any one remember a movie (from the late 70's I
>think) where this killer was living in the attic of a girls dormitory.
>He would occasionally come down out of the attic, kill one of the girls
>then return to the attic. I remember Margot Kidder in it. And I think
>the original name was "Silent Night, Evil Night". I would love to find
>this on tape if possible. I also like her in "The Reincarnation of
>Peter Proud".
>
>Silver Rain
>Porch Vampire
>
>
>
>
That was A Stranger In The House. A very good scary one!
PJ

BWit...@epix.net

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Needful Things...1 of the best books I've ever read
but 1 of the worst movies


Katie

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I can't see Shelly Duvall as anything other than Olive Oil for which she was
beautifully cast.

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Silver Rain

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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[I read that book first, and I had some funny [idea that the wife was

well, pretty in at least a [more conventional way ... not someone who
[could make a convincing Olive Oyl, anyway ... [but there was a sense in
the book that she was [a bit of a looker

I had the same thought about the wife. "O'ma God!! It's Olive Oyl!!"
I also hate the way that they ended it differently by killing off the
Scatman Cruthers (sp) character.

["being Jack Nicholson" and while I've liked him [in other movies,


that's it - you do pretty much [always get the same thing from him.

I rather liked him in "Terms of Endearment" = ]

[Did Alice Hoffman have anything to do with the [screenplay? I can't

Silver Rain

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Ooop! Hit the wrong button before I was done!! = ]
*************

Did Alice Hoffman have anything to do with the screenplay? I can't
imagine that she did!
Justine

I don't know if she did or not but it sure doesn't appear that she did.
One of the reasons I wanted to see it was because I like Sandra Bullock.
She seems like the kind of person that's as nice off screen as on. I
also loved Stockard Channings character!! = ]

Silver Rain
Porch Vampire


Justine Faulkenburg-Schmidt

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Silver Rain wrote:

> I had the same thought about the wife. "O'ma God!! It's Olive Oyl!!"

A lot of years ago she (Shelly Duvall) did a series of videos that I think
were called Fairy Tale Theater or something like that ... there were lots
of big stars playing the parts in the stories and they were lots of fun to
watch ... I discovered them at the video store when I was a teenager. I'd
like to find them again to enjoy with my kids, but haven't seen them
anywhere - has anyone else heard of them?

> ["being Jack Nicholson" and while I've liked him [in other movies,
> that's it - you do pretty much [always get the same thing from him.
>
> I rather liked him in "Terms of Endearment" = ]

Yes, so did I - and also in "As Good As It Gets" ... but he's still pretty
much playing the person he always plays ... but it works!

Justine


Justine Faulkenburg-Schmidt

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Silver Rain wrote:

> Ooop! Hit the wrong button before I was done!! = ]

Hate it when that happens! <g>

> I don't know if she (Alice Hoffman) did or not but it sure doesn't appear


> that she did.
> One of the reasons I wanted to see it was because I like Sandra Bullock.
> She seems like the kind of person that's as nice off screen as on. I
> also loved Stockard Channings character!! = ]

Yes, she seems really nice - a real joker, too! I thought she, Nicole
Kidman and Stockard Channing (love that name!) were all very well cast. I
really didn't like the ending, though. And I liked that the book developed
the girls' mystique a lot better, as well as an explanation as to why all
the women in the neighborhood came to help them when they needed it. In
the movie, it was like they just arrived, these women that all we could
see was that they feared and hated them - it wasn't logical at all that
they would help them when they really needed it!

I just finished watching "Meet Joe Black" and I liked it, until the ending
- corny, but still nice and romantic. But then, I have a real soft spot
for Brad Pitt! :-) I thought he did a good job, though. I might look for
that book when I am done reading "The Van" by Roddy Dowell.

Justine

Justine Faulkenburg-Schmidt

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Crash wrote:

> too weird, I just watched Meet Joe Black last night. I really liked it as well
> and all i've gotta say about Brad Pitt is YUMMY!!!!!
> so nice and muscly in that movie and that image of him eating peanut butter for
> the first time, the spoon sticking out of his mouth like a little kid. when
> Susan? asks what he's eating and he says "peanut butter" with the spoon still
> in his mouth, i almost melted. TOO DAMN CUTE!!
> I was hoping that at the end he really wasn't gonna take Anthony hopkins. oh
> well, guess i was suckered in. lol

Okay, this is too weird - I started watching it last night but finished it this
afternoon when I had a spare hour of breathing room! Yes, your statements about
Brad Pitt are agreed around here! But it's funny, I realized that he's not just
fun to watch, but a pretty darned good actor with a future (and a touch more
seasoning, and I don't mean paprika!). I loved that scene, too - it was very
real. But what I really liked was the "little stuff" that made the dialogue ...
like when Anthony Hopkin's character became acquainted with Joe Black and they
were walking down the corridor to dinner and he said something like, "I just
thought of something - if I tell everyone who you are, they might not stay for
dinner." I giggled my way through most of the movie, and it wasn't just watching
our man! I also really liked the way Brad Pitt managed to maintain himself in the
Carribean dialogue with that woman ....wow - he never missed a beat and was very
convincing ... I could almost imagine him talking that way with a friend while
joking around, and probably really tripping that friend out ....

But I blabber ... sorry! I really did like that movie, and even though I wasn't
super-fond of the ending (yes, I *also* hoped ... awwww, heck, we gotta' save
something for the others to watch) ... forget what we have said about the ending
and watch the movie anyway!

J

Silver Rain

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That was A Stranger In The House. A very good scary one! PJ
*************
It was fun to see in a theater. In this one part the tension had built,
there was a quiet moment followed by an ambulance screaming across the
screen. Just about the whole audience screamed, including myself and my
cousin, followed by this hysterical giggling throughout the theater!!

One movie that I saw at the theater that had an impact on the audience
was "Pink Floyd's - The Wall". Usually when you walk out of a film the
audience is chattering about it -- this part, that part. When the
audience came out of this one it was silent, not a word was spoken!! My
husband (at the time) and I didn't say a word between the two of us for
at least thirty minutes. I can only put it down as shock, because that's
what it felt like in retrospect. That was one draining movie.

Seeing movies at a theater especially with a packed house usually has a
bigger effect on one that seeing the same movie at home on a small
television.

Silver Rain
Porch Vampire


Crash

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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I just finished watching "Meet Joe Black" and I liked it, until the ending
- corny, but still nice and romantic. But then, I have a real soft spot
for Brad Pitt! :-) I thought he did a good job, though. I might look for
that book when I am done reading "The Van" by Roddy Dowell.

Justine

too weird, I just watched Meet Joe Black last night. I really liked it as well


and all i've gotta say about Brad Pitt is YUMMY!!!!!
so nice and muscly in that movie and that image of him eating peanut butter for
the first time, the spoon sticking out of his mouth like a little kid. when
Susan? asks what he's eating and he says "peanut butter" with the spoon still
in his mouth, i almost melted. TOO DAMN CUTE!!
I was hoping that at the end he really wasn't gonna take Anthony hopkins. oh
well, guess i was suckered in. lol

Crash
"Oopsie, was that out loud?" :hand covering mouth:

Crash

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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J

the only movie i saw our Mr. Hunky man in that i was seriously doubting his
role choices was Johnny Suede. now THAT was a pitiful movie. but i've loved all
his other movies.
oh yeah and umm i agree with EVERYTHING you said in your last post. :giggle:

Dash Martin

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yeah I remember those, they were aired on Showtime originally if I recall, her
last one was called mother goose rocka dn rhyme I beleive, it had little
richard and those triplets ( women) that sing and play guitar, lol they are a
little older, anyway it was cool.
Hope that helps maybe if you email showtime (www.sho.com ~ I think) they can
at least give you info on a distribution comapny or something like that, wish
you luck.

Gin

Ginny

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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I love to read and I can't think of a single movie thatI have seen that I
thought was bettert han the book. Now I am not saying that there are not
movies that i enjoyed One being "Meet Joe Black" I honestly didn't care what
the story was about The scenery kept my interested. Isn't that terriale?;-]
Ginny
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Dash Martin

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I thought the BBC movie version or Prode and prejudice was better than the book
but then again, lol maybe that has something to do with the fact that colin
Firth was in it :)

Ginnaphure

LITTLEPJoo

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Ginnaphure wrote:
>I thought the BBC movie version or Prode and prejudice was better than the
>book
>but then again, lol maybe that has something to do with the fact that colin
>Firth was in it :)
>
>Ginnaphure
>
Oh yes!! I'm secretly madly in love with Colin Firth since seeing him in Pride
and Predjudice.
PJ

Janie

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Uh, ain't no secret no more!!! (And bops her on the head .. ) :)))
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How's *that* for multiple negatives in one sentence!!


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LITTLEPJoo

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Well, you never know....... he might just read this NG. Then he'll come over to
the US and I'll leave my hubby for him. ;)
PJ
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