Tom 11's Ghost Pictures
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TOM ELEVEN wrote:
> I thought that I would post the URLs for my ghost pictures, for those who haven
> been able to see them on my web page.
> I took these about 5 years ago using 400speed black & white film in day light.
> I used a "random field" technique, where I used random backgrounds for the
> ghosts to "materialize" against.
> I have 2 pictures with a close up of each.
> one shows a little girl, smaller than life, in an old fashoned dress. The
> other is the head of a lady, with a 19th century hairstyle
>
> http://members.aol.com/tomeleven/ghost1a.jpg
> http://members.aol.com/tomeleven/ghost1.jpg
> http://members.aol.com/tomeleven/ghost2a.jpg
> http://members.aol.com/tomeleven/ghost2.jpg
>
> BTW these photos are REAL and un retouched. They seem to be formed, in part,
> from the trees and folliage, but there is too much detail to have happened by
> chance alone. Although the ghosts might have taken advantage of convinient
> available shapes to form part of the imagery.
> The little girl is more detailed than one might think at first glance---look
> closely, you can even see the boots on her feet.
> The other picture has even more images than the lady's head. That was the only
> one on that pic that I chose to enlarge however.
> enjoy !
> TOM
> Thomas M. Ray/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> tome...@aol.com
>
TOM ELEVEN
LITTLEPJoo
>I thought that I would post the URLs for my ghost pictures, for those who
>haven
>been able to see them on my web page.
<snip>
The pictures are wild!! The one with the ladies face is perfect!!
PJ
DH1159
>>I thought that I would post the URLs for my ghost pictures, for those who
>>haven
>>been able to see them on my web page.
>
Doug H. .....ICQ#1380009
Rashid1116
>>>haven
>>>been able to see them on my web page.
>>
>
I can't see anything !!! I never am able to see what everyone is talking
about. How frustrating !!
Melissa R. :)
TOM ELEVEN
>about. How frustrating !!
Well, Iv'e got BIG arrows pointing to them in the wide shots.
Perhaps you have a lousy server. I discovered that not all servers are equal
when I posted a scan of a printed form on one of my other web pages. On most
servers it was crystal clear, but on the generic AOL internet screens it was un
readable.
Then again YOU might be BLIND. ;-)
Carnage
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Rashid1116 <rashi...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19981221022554...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
>>>>I thought that I would post the URLs for my ghost pictures, for those
who
>>>>haven
>>>>been able to see them on my web page.
>>>
>>
>
> I can't see anything !!! I never am able to see what everyone is talking
>about. How frustrating !!
>
>
>Melissa R. :)
Rashid1116
>Perhaps you have a lousy server. I discovered that not all servers are equal
>when I posted a scan of a printed form on one of my other web pages. On most
>servers it was crystal clear, but on the generic AOL internet screens it was
>un
>readable.
> Then again YOU might be BLIND. ;-)
>TOM
clear enough. It must be because EVERYONE else see these things. Then again , I
might just be blind.<sigh>
Melissa R. :)
TOM ELEVEN
> Very funny. :) I'm positive that it is because the pictures don't show up
>clear enough. It must be because EVERYONE else see these things. Then again ,
>I
>might just be blind.<sigh>
>
>
>
STILL, It might be your internet server screen. Try reading a scan of printed
material
at my "Cyberdrill" site at
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/cyberdrill/index.html
Go to the "see our daily report" or " see our mud log" in the "services"
section.
If you cannot easily read the small text, then your server screen is
"crappy"---Try to link your server to Microsoft IE--for the screen display and
you will get MUCH clearer pictures.
We discovered this when some of out clients reported that they couldnt read the
text on the scanned images.
zsdf
the culprit and not your SERVER? I never heard that a server can send
"crappy" pictures.
To resolve, go into control panels, display icon, and change your resolution
to a higher grade (maybe 16 or 24 bit colour) as opposed to 256 colours?
Merry Christmas.
TOM ELEVEN wrote in message
<19981222085250...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
FredricksJ
>the culprit and not your SERVER? I never heard that a server can send
>"crappy" pictures.
>
Actually when your on AOL your not really on the internet, you are looking at a
"rebroadcast" of sorts of the real internet. Or so I've heard.
TOM ELEVEN
In article <19981222165340...@ng134.aol.com>,
fredr...@aol.commode (FredricksJ) writes:
Yes and there is a VERY noticable degradation in image quality
AOL does have an option of running Microsoft IE or Netscape in its browser--its
free and it greatly improver the picture quality.
zsdf
regular ISP? On other matters, I'm Canadian and I can't even imagine how
AOL got that many americans hooked up onto their system for the price they
were charging ( i think now AOL must've decreased the charges.) Anyway,
it's way off topic, but my 2cents in for the AOL saga. thanks for listening
and have a merry christmas!
TOM ELEVEN wrote in message
<19981222230725...@ngol05.aol.com>...
TOM ELEVEN
>regular ISP? On other matters, I'm Canadian and I can't even imagine how
>AOL got that many americans hooked up onto their system for the price they
>were charging ( i think now AOL
One reason is, AOL will do a direct bank draft for payment and everyone else
requires credit cards.
TOM
stoneg...@my-dejanews.com
tome...@aol.com (TOM ELEVEN) wrote:
> > I can't see anything !!! I never am able to see what everyone is talking
> >about. How frustrating !!
>
> Perhaps you have a lousy server. I discovered that not all servers are equal
> when I posted a scan of a printed form on one of my other web pages. On most
> servers it was crystal clear, but on the generic AOL internet screens it was
un
> readable.
> Then again YOU might be BLIND. ;-)
Those pictures remind me alot of finding faces in the clouds, or looking at
inkblots. Maybe there's something there, or maybe it's just imagination.
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Nicole Kobrowski
zsdf schrieb:
> I guess the obvious resolution would be to get off AOL and hookup with a
> regular ISP? On other matters, I'm Canadian and I can't even imagine how
> AOL got that many americans hooked up onto their system for the price they
> were charging ( i think now AOL must've decreased the charges.) Anyway,
> it's way off topic, but my 2cents in for the AOL saga. thanks for listening
> and have a merry christmas!
AOL always sends us CDs with like 50 free hours.. we have so many of these it is
pathetic.. the only bad thing is that every call costs here in Germany!
BTW... Tom ... I may be blind but I cant see a thing in either of your pics..
maybe Im not as attuned as I used to be...:(
Nicole
Nuremberg, Germany
TOM ELEVEN
In article <75rf4l$v1h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, stoneg...@my-dejanews.com
writes:
>
>Those pictures remind me alot of finding faces in the clouds, or looking at
>inkblots. Maybe there's something there, or maybe it's just imagination.
>
>
That was MY first concern myself. I kept asking myself "is there really
something there or am I fooling myself?"
But if the forms were only approximate, I could concur with the
"imagination/cloud" theory, but the images have DETAILS that are too numerous
and too correct for mere co-incidence alone. The little girl has a Drop waist
dress--you can make out the belt, you can see boots on her feet(the left boot
is hard to see because it is partially behind the right leg) and strings on her
collar. She is in PERFECT proportion and the clothing is entirely right for
the time. The lady has a detailed hair style which is also correct for the
era. You can see eyes and even her cheek bones.
ALL this stuff is just too much for chance alone. The images that I pointed
out are the best in this respect. Sure there are other "faces", etc. near the
lady, but They do not exhibit enough fineness of detail, IMHO, to permit me to
eleminate the "imagination effect".---But they still might be authentic anyway.
TOM ELEVEN
>
>BTW... Tom ... I may be blind but I cant see a thing in either of your pics..
>maybe Im not as attuned as I used to be...:(
>
>Nicole
>Nuremberg, Germany
Well, I am puzzled, you should at least be able to see the little girl's
collar--the white thing with the "strings" on it. The lady's head is neat the
bottom of the white blob, in profile, looking to the left.
Perhaps you are looking for a "preconcieved" shape on your part and cant find a
match. The images are quite obvious.
Sambo28
Where can I see these pictures ? Where did you get them ? They sound very
interesting !!!
Thanks !!!
Randy
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TOM ELEVEN
In article <19981224005427...@ng135.aol.com>, sam...@aol.com
(Sambo28) writes:
>Tom ,
>Where can I see these pictures ? Where did you get them ? They sound very
>interesting !!!
>Thanks !!!
>Randy
I am too lazy to look up the URLs of the pics, but I have them on my web page
at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/9912/index.htm
look in the "Ghost and spirits" section.
LITTLEPJoo
>
>Well, I am puzzled, you should at least be able to see the little girl's
>collar--the white thing with the "strings" on it. The lady's head is neat
>the
>bottom of the white blob, in profile, looking to the left.
>Perhaps you are looking for a "preconcieved" shape on your part and cant find
>a
>match. The images are quite obvious.
>TOM
>Thomas M. Ray/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>tome...@aol.com
>
>
>
Tom's right, these images are quite detailed.
PJ
McTruck
>considered shapes of people...
>
>Now I am more worried that it was "a suggestion" put inside my head and that
>is why
>I saw them....
>
I tried this experiment walking home from work one night, and you can
too...mind you, I'm not saying it totally explains Tom's photos...but, yes, a
lot can be said for the power of suggestion...
I decided, remembering Tom's pix, that I was going to look at the next bunch of
trees I passed and see if I could make myself make out any images from the
foilage, sort of an impromptu Rorschach test.
A funeral home (by accident) was the first well-lit lot containing a large
group of trees. I glanced up into the fall leaves and IMMEDIATLY saw a large
"Cameo" image, similar to the woman's head in Tom's photo. The hair was styled
in a 50's-ish bob and she was looking to the left, it was a pretty convincing
picture, granted, there was little in the way of detail and such...
Now, before anyone jumps me that I might have actually seen "something"...as I
passed the lot, I turned and looked back at the same group of trees from the
other side...now, granted, my imagination is pretty powerful at times... ;)
On the other side of the trees was a perfect, large image of the skull of a
Sabre-toothed Tiger...which I doubt was haunting that funeral-home parking lot,
seriously...
Just me being me...
Patrick
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TOM ELEVEN
>I tried this experiment walking home from work one night, and you can
>too...mind you, I'm not saying it totally explains Tom's photos...but, yes, a
>lot can be said for the power of suggestion...
>
>I decided, remembering Tom's pix, that I was going to look at the next bunch
>of
>trees I passed and see if I could make myself make out any images from the
>foilage, sort of an impromptu Rorschach test.
>
>A funeral home (by accident) was the first well-lit lot containing a large
>group of trees. I glanced up into the fall leaves and IMMEDIATLY saw a large
>"Cameo" image, similar to the woman's head in Tom's photo. The hair was
>styled
>in a 50's-ish bob and she was looking to the left, it was a pretty convincing
>picture, granted, there was little in the way of detail and such...
>
>Now, before anyone jumps me that I might have actually seen "something"...as
>I
>passed the lot, I turned and looked back at the same group of trees from the
>other side...now, granted, my imagination is pretty powerful at times... ;)
>
>On the other side of the trees was a perfect, large image of the skull of a
>Sabre-toothed Tiger...which I doubt was haunting that funeral-home parking
>lot,
>seriously...
>
>Just me being me...
>
>Patrick
I HAVE thought about this ever since I took and saw the pictures. There are
TWO facts, however, that make me still lean twoard the GHOST theory in this
case.
First, there were the only photos in which I could find any images--although I
took 12 in the graveyard against similar appearing folliage. The other fact is
the DETAIL that seems too much for coincidental shapes.
We are more subject to such "imaginations" when seeing the trees, etc.
"live"--as we can imagine missing details based upon the suggestion of
shapes--but a photo IS A HARD image. The details ARE visible and you can sit
down and study them closely.---not like looking at it a few moments "live"
LITTLEPJoo
game. And you can find shapes in almost anything with a texture. Especially if
you have an active imagination. So, I'm not de-bunking anyone else. But, the
shapes I saw in Toms photos looked a lot more distinct than say, the rest of
the foliage in his photos. I mean, if they were random shapes, we'd be able to
spot dozens of other shapes, just by using our imaginations. These images stand
out.
PJ
Rashid1116
>considered shapes of people...
>
>Now I am more worried that it was "a suggestion" put inside my head and that
>is why
>I saw them....
>
I went and looked at them again , and while it is still not too clear , I
could make out a couple things , like the girls head and collar , and her boot.
I saw the womans profile too. I don't think we are seeing these things solely
by suggestion , Nicole. We just needed it pointed out where to look. And we
found what we were looking for !
Melissa R. :)