I then plugged my IC recorder (digital voice recorder) into the back of
the scanner and pressed record. I uploaded the recording to my computer
with Adobe Audition and amplified the sound, and could hear human
voices (this was confirmed by various witnesses) saying things that
would have me in doubt that I was picking up a stray broadcast. Words
were used like "ghosts", "spirit", the "n" word, along with meaningless
dribble and weird animal sounds. This was in the same back bedroom
where I set up my RF signal generator, scanner, and other recording
equipment to mimic the 70s Spiricom "Mark IV" experiment.
My question is this: can a digital recorder pick up voices through a
frequency if plugged into the back of the scanner (of human origin)
that cannot be heard through the scanner's speaker? The same recording
was done of the room with the white noise of the dead frequency in the
background and entirely different results were produced, with the
voices sounding less monotone and more like others were in the room
Of course, it doesn't help that I was doing paranormal research using
the digital recorder at a desolated black cemetery in town here and
abruptly stopped to focus on 2-way communication as opposed to EVPs.
Any way to easily explain away the voices that show up on the recording
of the static/frequency but not the static/frequency itself when
listened to in real-time?
All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are hearing
one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new.
Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's not.....
> Any way to easily explain away the voices that show up on the recording
> of the static/frequency but not the static/frequency itself when
> listened to in real-time?
Your digital audio recorder is receiving weakly) a number of AM stations.
It's /not/ magic - it's just rectification!
Everything gets easier with practice, except getting up in the morning!
> All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are hearing
> one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new.
> Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's not.....
If this was rectification of AM stations, then why:
- No music, advertising, or anything else shows up, but yet
- Sometimes clear voices are heard saying vulgar words which would
never be allowed on any AM station, and
- Sometimes prophetic statements are made using my own name and the
name of other witnesses present or deeply involved in the experiments,
- In one instance I heard what sounded like several loud chickens
bocking at such a large volume it would've surely been heard at room
volume (incidently, these loud "animal-like" sounds always appear
toward the end of the recording, shortly before I hit "stop" - but yet
there is no interference with the audio plug or movement by myself
before stopping the recording, yet they are often a hallmark of the
brief mostly 30-second recordings I do)?
To one extreme I heard a death threat used against one of my
co-workers. To the other I heard statements like "you did not work
today" (which I hadn't) and "no mouse pad" (which I use none).
Overall, if you count the digital recordings from the cemetery (where
no white noise was present except for the internal components of the
rather silent recorder), the house, and plugged directly into the back
of the scanner, I've stored thousands of unexplained voices - and it
would've been impossible for the scanner to pick up AM stations in the
cemetery (and along with the fact that most all the voices sounded had
thick country accents and sounded African-American in nature with poor
grammar, I find the odds of this being rectification far-fetched).
A group of friends and I were so intrigued with some of the voices from
the cemetery, we made a CD which had some of our best recordings and
submitted it at work and to other people with a brief survey for the
listener to circle either AGREE, DISAGREE, or UNDECIDED as to whether
they heard the same voice and believed it was saying the same thing as
we did. And of course, several EVPs (electronic voice phenomenon) had
an agreement rate of over 95% of nearly 30 people.
I am not debating the existence of EVPs using a recorder and a source
of white noise, TV static, etc., for the conduit. I am asking you for a
plausible explanation that would explain voices saying your name,
sometimes vulgar words, etc., with such clarity that witnesses all
agree on what is being said but have no explanation as to how or why
they are showing up on a recording of of a frequency with nothing
audible on it when not recording.
And one last thought... how could such clear voices and sounds
(sometimes very loud in nature but yet inaudible while not being
recorded) be showing up on *any* frequency with a squelch level of only
1 or 2? I thought perhaps the audio cable to the recorder acted like
some sort of antenna but in reality it's not even hooked into the
external antenna jack.
Anyway, I'd rather at times believe there *are no* spirits that
followed me back, which is why I'm trying one last time to come to a
plausible conclusion which would explain away the voices which have
been picked up on tape, recorded, and catalogued for the record.
Thank you for helping to solve this mystery...
EVP experiments have been quite substantiated in laboratory settings.
Before dismissing something as "hogwash" why don't you try for
yourself? Simply make a 30-second recording with preferably a digital
recorder (that way you don't try to explain away the voices by thinking
the cassette tape was previously recorded on or the magnetic silica
that make up the tape are somehow picking up stray radio broadcasts)
and ask some simple questions.
It's best to do it with a small bit of white noise in the background -
if you're worried about rectification from your scanner or radio, try a
TV station full of static with the antenna unplugged, or a ceiling fan,
etc. Then upload the recording and amplify the sound a little
(amplification in no way alters the recording, only makes the voices
easier to decipher).
We've picked up so many EVPs that EVP itself is now boring and a
dead-end of sorts. Hence the need to set up apparatus for 2-way radio
communication using tones being sent to various frequencies (the
original Spiricom experment used 29.570 MHz), then waiting for days,
months, or even years until you get that first contact. It's more about
patience than believing, because once you do pick up the voices, you
will certainly question the reality you live in.
PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
It retailed for $40.
Some have said it's Rectification, but what I think you are really
experiencing is something known as Rectum-ification.
Rectumification is thinking you can hear something when you have your head
up your ass.
Now, go tell your friends at alt.fan.art.bell the good news.
Happy to Help.
<FLjef...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Sorry, I was thinking of the slang term ("bok, bok") for the odd sounds
they make. To tell you the truth, I'm not much of a chicken fan -
either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :)
First, I believe you mean the magnetic iron oxide, not silica, which is
sand. You would have to have a STRONG modulated -magnetic- field to
inadvertently pick up "mysterious" voices.
Finally, what makes you think a digital recorder is immune to
rectification? -EACH- IC (Integrated Circuit chip) in the digital
recorder contains hundreds of P-N junctions which ARE rectifiers and
thus susceptible to unwanted rectification of RF fields.
Bottom line: a digital recorder is equally or -more- likely to pick up a
stray RF field than a analog tape recorder.
> PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
> consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
> meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
> had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
> It retailed for $40.
Which proves nothing except that
a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI
b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.
As a seller, ya gotta love eBay!
I agree fully with what you are saying. It's the same way people claim
to see faces in smoke, clouds, etc. However, the way ITC (instrumental
transcommunication, in which EVP is only one subcategory of) works is
not trying to make patterns out of TV snow or even recording the static
with a VCR, but:
- Putting the TV on the Auxilliary channel so the channel is blank on
most TV sets,
- Hooking the RCA plugs of a video camera up to the TV, and
- Pointing the camera at the screen (so you're essentially recording
into infinity - the camera is hooked up to the TV but yet is recording
a picture into a picture into a picture)
- Recording what is picked up and playing it back, then freezing it
If this is done with patience and the right equipment, rather defined
human faces will show up for many people. Take a look at a few here:
As you can see, it's not the same as simply recording TV static and
playing it back - sure, you'll see patterns and probably faces, but
it'll not be exactly the same concept of video ITC.
when a pattern is detected the memory of the object rises up
> to be considered. by this time the random sparkles have changed, thus
> the object or face rises to your mind then evaporates as another pattern
> is struggling to be resolved. in your minds eye the face has zoomed up
> out of the static and then zoomed away. the audio seems to be the same
> thing, words resolve out of the hiss and then are lost forever.
As far as words being taken out of TV static or other white noise, I
fully understand where you are coming from. That's why it's best to use
a recorder and have witnesses listen to the tape at the same time as
you. Often times a voice will be so clear, far above the sound level
and static of the white noise, that everyone will hear it and instantly
agree on what it is saying. If you visit the cemetery often enough
trying to communicate with spirits, you're going to get some that
follow you home.
Initially (before doing research at the cemetery, which was dilapidated
and many graves had no marker, only a mound of dirt, and had been
vandalized several times in the past with crypts being broken into, and
so on) I could get no voices on my recordings that I did in my own
house - and I even used white noise for the background. Now I can pick
up loud voices with NO white noise in the background. On a few
disturbing occassions, the recorder itself seemed to be temporarily
altered and the voices were yelling in threatening tones.
What makes me almost certain this is not hearing imaginary voices in
static is that the voices are sometimes 5x the volume level of the
white noise, and when they show up on the recording so you can play
back, get other peoples' intentions, and save on the computer, then the
brain-pattern-imagery theory falls apart. The only other *logical*
explanation is a stray signal (remember, no antenna is used and you can
even use a ceiling fan) or someone in the room talking (which you'd
surely notice while doing the recording).
Next time you're lying in bed trying to sleep and you have the air
conditioning on or the ceiling fan on and think you hear something
being said, it is not necessarily your imagination. An easy way to
confirm whether there truly was a voice is to make a recording. If your
house is old you may be picking up EVPs (or video ITC if you try it) in
no time. If your house is relatively new, you probably won't hear much
unless you really put time and dedication into receiving results, or
start going to disturbed cemeteries and basically invite spirits (and
most likely trouble) back into your home by simply doing EVP recordings
at the cemetery.
This I don't recommend unless you are ready to be scared out of your
mind. And once that happens, it won't be nearly as easy explaining
things away by brain/pattern theories and AM rectification as it is
now, considering most of you have no experience with the process of
> part is psychological, you seem to recognise the word or picture but
> since it has gone away now you cant prove that it was never there to
> begin with! soon you are on the art bell show with a great story that
> you really do believe and nobody can disprove! great fun!
Explaining something away by logic to the satisfaction of those who
have no experience with the phenomenon is an easy way for people to
dismiss this research. That is why I give an open invitation for anyone
with a little time and the access to a digital recorder and computer
with shareware sound software to go ahead and try it.
Side note: Since we constructed the machine in my back bedroom, I have
recently put up a surveillance camera with its own microphone and fed
the cable to the TV in the living room, so I can see what happens in
the room while nobody is in there. Orbs, or bright white spheres have
been witnessed and many times zoom up in the air in a curving motion,
opposite the way dust might settle (no a/c was on and no insects were
in the room after inspection). I recently bought a VCR to record myself
tinkering with the device and for the first time on the tape heard my
name "Jeffffrey" being spoken through the microphone and onto the TV's
sound. This was the only voice uncovered before I became filled with
fear and turned off the recording, but the voice was far above the
room's background sound level. This never occurred before by just
listening to the audio with others. It only occurred after the sound
was recorded, so now it appears that almost any microphone will pick up
EVPs from that room.
> First, I believe you mean the magnetic iron oxide, not silica, which is
> sand. You would have to have a STRONG modulated -magnetic- field to
> inadvertently pick up "mysterious" voices.
> Finally, what makes you think a digital recorder is immune to
> rectification? -EACH- IC (Integrated Circuit chip) in the digital
> recorder contains hundreds of P-N junctions which ARE rectifiers and
> thus susceptible to unwanted rectification of RF fields.
> Bottom line: a digital recorder is equally or -more- likely to pick up a
> stray RF field than a analog tape recorder.
Then I have one question and one assumption: Is there a way of making a
recording of the environment without the possibility of rectification?
And... a leading theory in EVP is: "EVP is considered to be radio
frequency signals that inadvertently find their way into your
recordings by way of cross-modulation, atmospheric refraction or
indirect rectification. Many paranormal investigators feel that these
voices or signals are somehow connected to ghosts."
Let's say for the sake of debate that some voices using the EVP process
are genuinely otherworldly or from another dimension. They have to show
up on our recording apparatus somehow, and I guess the leading theory
is that this is through RF signals. The question of "how" is beyond my
league. I simply deal with results, and the results
- Contain language, complete first-and-last names of myself and others
who are involved in this research, prophetic messages, etc., that would
never be broadcast on any AM or other radio station.
- The phrases are often times speeded up during certain words, as if
the message is trying to be purposely fit into a short time. Some EVPs
are so fast that you have to slow down the speech to understand it.
- I can pick up louder and more clear words (actually sounding like
they're coming from vocal chords) without *any* background sound or
white noise, as opposed to the relatively weaker and more monotone
voices picked up from the scanner, using the *same* recorder in the
same setting during the same atmospheric events (weather, solar flares)
- Some voices are so loud and clear that it would be highly improbable
for someone doing a simple recording to explain away by a stray radio
signal, unless it's coming from another dimension.
If you would try EVP for yourself and judge the voices you capture on
an objective, one-by-one basis, instead of dismissing every voice
anyone has ever picked up as having no chance of being paranormal in
nature, you might question more the world around you. It just so
happens that EVP is the best way to get evidence of that world.
> > PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
> > consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
> > meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
> > had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
> > It retailed for $40.
> Which proves nothing except that
> a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI
> mitigation techniques.
If that is why the recorder was so good for EVP, then someone could
easily alter another recorder or build their own and sell it as an EVP
recorder and make a considerable amount of money, considering the
public's interest has skyrocketed.
> b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.
> As a seller, ya gotta love eBay!
I have another explanation: People in today's society are lazy and want
to take the easiest route to accomplish something - if there was a
"holy grail" of EVP recorders, people would buy it instead of spending
time working from the ground up with a standard recorder. Sure, my
recorder didn't even pick up voices at first. Then gradually some
voices were picked up. Now I can't do a 30-second session without
sometimes dozens of voices showing up, speaking over top each other,
without any white noise. And that seems to correlate with my own
travels to cemeteries and the building of a machine to communicate with
If you were a spirit and had a message to convey, you'd probably
gravitate toward someone who was spending time trying to open up the
door to communication.
EVP research (it's research because it can't easily be explained away
by those who were skeptical at first but did their own investigation of
the phenomenon) takes patience, an open mind, and no particular belief
system starting out. But it's not recommended for everybody. In fact, I
took the easy way out by trying to visit places in hopes something
would follow me back. Now it has, and I can pick it up anytime I want
> I'm not much of a chicken fan -
> either living, dead and cooked, or ghost chicken. :)
Guess you've never experienced Poultrygeist....
lol... nor would I want to. Though I'm sure it's not nearly as scary as
You're a f00kin k00k.
Jim is exactly correct. I see absolutley nothing in those pictures at
the link you posted. You are seeing your minds attempt to make sense
out of nonsense. You clearly very much WANT to believe. But if one has
to WANT to believe then it is not true.
On the bright side, I'm sure that others WANT to believe too and if you can
find enough of them you could start a new lucrative religion.
Ha Ha Ha. Now that made me laugh!
So, why do you think spirits use the radio?
I'd never eat a cooked bird in a slim black dress ... but that's just
Jeff, are you in St. Augustine?
*shrug* Just curious.
What I think this shows, and quite conclusively, is that human
interpretation of random noise, especially when coupled with the power of
suggestion, is consistent across all tested recording methodologies.
Similar experiences have been reported using wire recorders in the 40s,
reel to reel tape and cassette recorders in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s,
and digital recording technologies in the 90s and to the present. All
that's required is an imperfect audio delivery to the recording medium
resulting in any form of random noise.
One of the most consistent aspects of these reports is the remarkable
personal relevance of the perceived content of the recordings. Hmmm :-)
One way to verify the internal, rather than external sources of these
messages is to play the same recording for different people and give
different suggestions. Tell one subject you heard one particular
message, tell another subject you heard a completely different message,
and note the results :-)
One of the most delightful aspects of these auditory hallucinations is
the intensity of the perception of the reality of the messages perceived.
Like seeing faces in clouds, the human mind seeks to find order in
chaotic data, and the more chaotic the data, the more urgently the mind
seeks to order that data. This urgency to order data adds to the sense
of certainty that a hallucination is "real."
I would say that the reason for the differences in perceived messages,
depending on recording techniques, have to do with the audio bandwidth of
the random noise being recorded. Your observations in that regard are
quite interesting and might show that the spectrum of the radom noise
recorded has an effect on a subject's interpretation of it.
The perception of the random noise recorded using the scanner connection
was likely influenced by the narrow audio bandwidth of the audio section
of a typical scanner (3000 - 5000 Khz - near the center on human speech
audio frequencies, for obvious technical reasons) resulting in the
perception of "monotone," or lacking in frequency variation, "voices."
Conversely, white noise, by definition, includes frequencies from across
the auditory spectrum of 20 Hz to 20Khz, and gives the mind much more to
Have fun with it, like the so-called "reverse speech" hallucinations made
popular on Art Bell's radio show, auditory hallucinations are a lot of
fun and the human mind is a delightful play thing.
Folks well versed in what are called "cold reading" skills (the ability
to quickly determine what a person wnats to hear and then providing
exactly that) have even earned money with this very phenomenon, calling
this "ghost voices" or what ever else fits into the needs of their marks.
Is it real? Of couse it is - to you :-)
Jeff, this is sort of a bogus question. Several times throughout this
epistle, you seem locked in on RF. If you truly believe that (RF that
is), then yes, you DO need rectification of the RF signal to recover the
> And... a leading theory in EVP is: "EVP is considered to be radio
> frequency signals
so, if it's "radio frequency" signals, why use a tape recorder which is
designed to capture AUDIO frequency signals?
> that inadvertently find their way into your
> recordings by way of cross-modulation, atmospheric refraction
atmospheric refraction is meaningless in this context. Just being used
as a pseudo-science buzz word. If a ghost wanted to talk to you, why
would he (she?) have to bother bouncing it off the ionosphere?
> or indirect rectification.
I believe the appropriate term here (and as used by the FCC) is
"incidental", not indirect. Again, this relates to the poor design of
the device in question and why the FCC calls such a case an "incidental"
> Many paranormal investigators feel that these
> voices or signals are somehow connected to ghosts."
"feelings" don't have much place in science.
> Let's say for the sake of debate that some voices using the EVP process
> are genuinely otherworldly or from another dimension.
"Other dimension"? More buzz words. How is a tape recorder or radio
receiver going to cross "dimensions"? If you are seeing or hearing
something, it is -obviously- already in *our* "dimension".
> They have to show
> up on our recording apparatus somehow,
Why? Says who? They may show up, but they don't "have to".
> and I guess the leading theory
> is that this is through RF signals.
Again, if you truly believe it is RF, why in the heck are you trying to
use an AF device (voice recorder) to capture an RF signal???
> If you would try EVP for yourself and judge the voices you capture on
> an objective, one-by-one basis, instead of dismissing every voice
> anyone has ever picked up as having no chance of being paranormal in
> nature, you might question more the world around you.
I question the moronic politicians of this world on a daily basis...
> It just so
> happens that EVP is the best way to get evidence of that world.
Says who? What ever happened to good old tin trumpets, table tipping and
ectoplasm??? Must not be high-tech enough. Even spook chasing seems to
have "gone digital". :-)
>>> PS The Panasonic RR-DR60 recorder was yanked from the market because of
>>> consumer complaints about unexplained voices showing up during business
>>> meetings, etc. It became the Holy Grail of EVP recorders, and recently
>>> had a bid of $1100 for a used recorder on eBay.
>>> It retailed for $40.
>> Which proves nothing except that
>> a) the Panasonic design weenie was not cognizant of standard RFI
>> mitigation techniques.
> If that is why the recorder was so good for EVP, then someone could
> easily alter another recorder or build their own and sell it as an EVP
> recorder and make a considerable amount of money,
Probably so, again there is one born every minute.
> considering the public's interest has skyrocketed.
Now, THAT'S scary. More pseudo-science and outright quackery. Just what
we need--another "Dark Ages".
>> b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.
>> As a seller, ya gotta love eBay!
> I have another explanation: People in today's society are lazy and want
> to take the easiest route to accomplish something - if there was a
> "holy grail" of EVP recorders, people would buy it instead of spending
> time working from the ground up with a standard recorder.
Huh? "Working from the ground up"? I truly do not understand what you
are trying to convey here. Are you saying it (their tape recorder) won't
work on Monday, will work a little bit on Tuesday and will get all kinds
of voices on Wednesday? If so, what would change in the hardware? What
would, hardware-wise, be different in the "holy grail" model that would
cause it to work all the time?
> Sure, my
> recorder didn't even pick up voices at first. Then gradually some
> voices were picked up. Now I can't do a 30-second session without
> sometimes dozens of voices showing up, speaking over top each other,
> without any white noise. And that seems to correlate with my own
> travels to cemeteries and the building of a machine to communicate with
> other dimensions.
> If you were a spirit and had a message to convey, you'd probably
> gravitate toward someone who was spending time trying to open up the
> door to communication.
A big stretch in the first place, but even by your own description
above, it would have to do with the -person-, NOT the model of tape
recorder they were using, "holy grail" version or otherwise.
Sadly, critical thinking is becoming a vanishing commodity in the 21st
IF there -were- ghosts...
...why would they just say random words for everyone to hear? Just 'cuz
they're dead doesn't (necessarily) mean that they are stupid.
Finally, if they are smart enough to create an RF signal and smart
enough to modulate that signal, wouldn't they be smart enough to figure
out how to just simply whisper an actual message (not random jibber
jabber) into the ear of the intended recipient?
Sorry, but your whole concept seems flawed.
If rectification was taking place through a digital recorder, what
would be the maximum volume of it? I've never heard of *loud* voices
showing up. In fact, the quality and type and accent of the voices
reach such a wide spectrum that they are impossible to all explain away
by any one theory. But the more theories you use to try to explain them
all away, it's more plausible there may be a paranormal connection -
that is just for argument's sake. After hundreds of hours of research
with thousands of voices, and the odd events surrounding my life during
that time, I firmly believe most of these voices are paranormal in
nature. It's also interesting that nobody has asked me to listen to the
clearest voices. It would be impossible to convince you of their
paranormal origin because I'd be asking you to change your belief
system over something you've never researched or tried yourself. Now
*that* would be kooky.
You're a KOOK.
Run along now, and take your meds.
I too use an RCA recorder, a 5012A model. My friend uses a 5012B model
but it doesn't work as well. Many say it depends on who is using the
recorder. For some reason I don't get nearly as many voices when the
recorder is left by itself, but if the operator is near it, the more
success you'll have. I think it's because they use your energy somehow.
Get an audio cable and plug from the mic jack on the recorder to the
earphone jack on the scanner, tune to a random frequency with only
static and press record. Record for about 30 seconds and upload the
tape onto your computer and amplify the sound (shareware software like
Cool Edit is best, and also the use of a Denoiser helps:
click on "Denoiser Demo" on top right of the screen - it only allows
you to denoise 30 seconds at a time but that's perfect for EVP
recordings. I have not used the Virtos Denoiser or other newer denoiser
software which have popped up overnight).
Some here may argue that the use of a denoiser may corrupt the results
further, but experiments with it using my own faint voice over a lot of
white noise proved beneficial in that the denoiser clearly brought out
my voice which was nearly inaudible over the static. Remember,
everything in the universe involves energy. It would take a
particularly strong spirit to yell or scream on a tape. Most voices are
faint but as you record and experiment more they get stronger. Soon
you'll recognize who they are by their voice.
For a control, do a separate recording of the frequency without
plugging it through the scanner. For some reason the voices that appear
through the scanner are more monotone, and the ones in the room with
the scanner used as background noise are more dimensional in nature.
Good luck and feel free to email me if you need help.
Crap, you're the one who needs help, boy.
If one of them are the RR-DR60 model, you'd have a goldmine.
The first night I conducted an EVP experiment, I used an old photograph
from the 1800s and a genuine 1920s William Fuld Ouija board as the
backdrop. I lit some candles and asked for communication (I have never
gotten a Ouija board to work, am not sensitive to spirits in any way,
and cannot be hypnotized). I made some recordings and got a melodic
humming voice of a woman (in the photo was an unknown woman holding her
baby). On the second recording I asked who did the humming, "Was that
you?", and a deep (almost demonic) sounding voice said, "It was."
This startled me so much that I stopped all experiments until I moved
to a new town and met a lot of people at the steakhouse where I work
who were interesting in conducting paranormal experiments. I finally
met a guy who has been my fellow researcher and best friend and we've
uncovered some amazing results which are still nowhere near a peak. It
is because of these results that I feel it best to start passing on our
techniques to others who are interested, in hopes of opening up their
minds to the possibilities of EVP and ITC.
However, be forewarned... a lot depends on your resonance (vibrational
rate) - if you are using drugs, are disturbed, or are in a negative
mindset, you tend to resonate with more negative spirits (which are
closer to this plane of existence, as opposed to the astral beings
which are higher up with a higher vibrational rate). I must admit that
the spirits which followed me back from the cemetery were of this
mindset and made many threats, countless vulgarity, and so on. A girl
who came with us to the cemetery had a panic attack and nearly had to
go to the hospital. Weeks later she was exorcised, though I was not
present and can't truly say whether she had a demonic presence
surrounding her. Chances are (if it was not something in her own mind)
it was a negative spirit which latched onto her (she was deeply
Christian yet interested in the paranormal). I have only seen her once
since moving to Daytona to a church camp.
When she came by one evening I played for her and her boyfriend's
sister (who is sensitive) the tapes at the cemetery the night she had
the panic attack. Almost simultaneously, my disabled ADT alarm started
sounding flashing the "Trouble" light. This bothered me since the alarm
was fully non-functional and I had even broken into my own house before
after losing my key without the alarm sounding. It has never again done
that, and this was over 6 months ago.
Anyway, I could type a book about my experiments which seemed to bring
on questionable events (even more startling since I am not sensitive -
I use this electronic equipment as my eyes and ears, though I still
feel that I'm wondering around in a darkened room without a
I hope some of this helps. Good luck on your endeavour if you feel you
should pursue it. I highly recommend at least a few experiments - just
experiment at a healthy dose and don't go to abandoned cemeteries
unless you really want to invite negativity back to your home.
> - just experiment at a healthy dose and don't go to abandoned
> cemeteries unless you really want to invite negativity back to your
Now this is indeed puzzling. Why would going to a cemetery, abandoned or
otherwise, bring "negativity" back to your home?
Is -everyone- buried there a bad person? Weren't any good people buried
there too? If there are "spirits", are you implying that they are all bad?
> For a control, do a separate recording of the frequency without
> plugging it through the scanner. For some reason the voices that appear
> through the scanner are more monotone, and the ones in the room with
> the scanner used as background noise are more dimensional in nature.
Please, I really am confused as to why the spirits would dick around
with scanners, white noise, RF, de-noiser software and all that
How did "the spirits" ever get by before tape recorders and scanners?
If "the spirits" are so technically savvy, why can't they figure out how
to just whisper in your ear?
> It's also interesting that nobody has asked me to listen to the
> clearest voices. It would be impossible to convince you of their
> paranormal origin because I'd be asking you to change your belief
> system over something you've never researched or tried yourself.
No, it's not that. It's just that the "evidence chain" has not been
properly controlled and it is just too easy to fake a recording. Mind
you, I am not saying that you would do such a thing, but to us, just
listening, would have no idea who recorded what we were listening to.
If it's possible to show a film of Forrest Gump (a fictional character)
shaking hands with JFK (a real character), it's not too big of a stretch
to legitimately question how a voice got on an audio tape.
> Your explanations sound good in theory, but do not explain how some
> EVPs show up so loud that they are not just an auditory hallucination
> of the white noise. Some are actually louder than my *own* voice asking
> questions on the tape. Of course the accent was so thick that people
> can't decide on what exactly it's saying,
"Loud" has nothing to do with paranormal. Loud is simply a function of
the strength of the RF signal and how well modulated it is. Just as an
example, there could be a foreign speaking taxi driver near by with his
CB and linear amplifier. (You said in an earlier post that you had some
kind of radio on 29 point something MHz. This is the CB band, and we all
know there are a lot of barnyard and/or strange noises/voices on CB). ;-)
> b) P.T. Barnum was right! There is indeed a sucker born every minute.
> Now this is indeed puzzling. Why would going to a cemetery, abandoned or
> otherwise, bring "negativity" back to your home?
> Is -everyone- buried there a bad person? Weren't any good people buried
> there too? If there are "spirits", are you implying that they are all bad?
I am speaking from personal experience and the experience of the dozen
or so people who went with me. Panic attacks, paranoia, threatening
voices on recordings, etc. I've gone to other well-kept cemeteries and
did not pick up *any* voices. But yet a vandalized old black cemetery
with open holes in crypts, dug up graves, mounds of sand marking
graves, etc., seemed to produce so many voices many were speaking on
top of each other. Sometimes in one 10-second recording over 5 voices
could be identified.
Why would there be so many voices in one cemetery, but not others? Why
would my house then have so many voices on recordings when before going
to this cemetery it did not? Why have people told me they have sensed
spirits at my house? Why are some people so scared they have to urinate
outside the house rather than go into the guest bathroom? Why has one
of my relatives (since these experiments begun) actually see a misty
presence of a woman in a brand new house (she has never witnessed a
ghost before and has no reason to lie about what she saw). This is just
the tip of the iceberg, yet none of this occurred *before* going to
Of course, all of this can be explained away. You can also either
explain away the moon landing as a hoax or say it really happened ...
two theories yet only one reality. You base yours on lack of experience
with this sort of thing ... I base mine on what I and others have
witnessed firsthand. Why don't you just spend some time experimenting
on your own instead of assuming that all my experiences are irrevelant?
I'm not here to argue the afterlife. I only came here to try to come to
another conclusion (for the peace of mind) that would explain these
weird events, and so far (brain/pattern or AM stations) have led to
more doubt than plausibility.
> Please, I really am confused as to why the spirits would dick around
> with scanners, white noise, RF, de-noiser software and all that
> technical mumbo-jumbo.
Brilliant minds have often had trouble communicating their ideas to
others. But that's another story. Considering spirits are made up of
energy, they obviously need energy to communicate and implant their
voices onto our equipment. One of the most brilliant minds ever, Thomas
Edison, along with Marconi, Crookes, and many of the greatest
scientists of the 20th century all believed it was possible to
communicate with the dead through radio. I think any one of them would
be smarter than most everyone in this group, and they obviously had a
good reason to believe this was possible. The first EVPs showed up in
the 1920s. Science has had all that time to explain them away, only
more and more evidence is showing up to discount traditional theories.
> How did "the spirits" ever get by before tape recorders and scanners?
The way some of them still do - dreams, materialization (which happened
to my relative), automatic writing, even some seances, and direct
> If "the spirits" are so technically savvy, why can't they figure out how
> to just whisper in your ear?
Many of them do - but that would involve someone who is sensitive. Why
do many sensitives belong to the same genetic traits and families? Some
day a "sensitive/psychic gene" will be discovered. There are also a lot
of equipment which picks up different forms of energy and radiation -
radio waves, x-rays, UV light, etc. - yet you don't hear radio waves
until they're picked up on your equipment. Who's to say spirits aren't
energy which can only be picked up in our current 3-dimensional world
by people of a different genetic background, dreams, and certain
electronic equipment? Seeing isn't necessarily believing, and believing
is almost never seeing. It's what lies within, not on the pages of some
> I thought chickens "clucked", not "bucked"...
> <FLjef...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>Rastis P. Buttsnort wrote:
>>>All that's happening is a simple case of "Rectification". You are
>>>one or more AM broadcast stations. This is nothing new.
>>>Unless of course you really WANT to believe this is something it's
>>If this was rectification of AM stations, then why:
>>- No music, advertising, or anything else shows up, but yet
>>- Sometimes clear voices are heard saying vulgar words which would
>>never be allowed on any AM station, and
>>- Sometimes prophetic statements are made using my own name and the
>>name of other witnesses present or deeply involved in the experiments,
>>- In one instance I heard what sounded like several loud chickens
>>bocking at such a large volume it would've surely been heard at room
>>volume (incidently, these loud "animal-like" sounds always appear
>>toward the end of the recording, shortly before I hit "stop" - but yet
>>there is no interference with the audio plug or movement by myself
>>before stopping the recording, yet they are often a hallmark of the
>>brief mostly 30-second recordings I do)?
>>To one extreme I heard a death threat used against one of my
>>co-workers. To the other I heard statements like "you did not work
>>today" (which I hadn't) and "no mouse pad" (which I use none).
>>Overall, if you count the digital recordings from the cemetery (where
>>no white noise was present except for the internal components of the
>>rather silent recorder), the house, and plugged directly into the back
>>of the scanner, I've stored thousands of unexplained voices - and it
>>would've been impossible for the scanner to pick up AM stations in the
>>cemetery (and along with the fact that most all the voices sounded had
>>thick country accents and sounded African-American in nature with poor
>>grammar, I find the odds of this being rectification far-fetched).
>>A group of friends and I were so intrigued with some of the voices from
>>the cemetery, we made a CD which had some of our best recordings and
>>submitted it at work and to other people with a brief survey for the
>>listener to circle either AGREE, DISAGREE, or UNDECIDED as to wheth