SPIDERS: A Shaman's View
Eileen Smith
Greetings All!
Just thought I would add my thoughts on this "spider thread".
Did you know that the spider carries potent spirit medicine to those
who follow the shaman's path? For them, a spider can be their totem
(spirit guide). Can you imagine squashing a spider that was sent to
you by the spirits in hopes of giving you it's symbolic message?!
Yikes!
The spider's medicine is one in which they are eithier trying to get
you to think and act on your goals, dreams and living your joy.
Perhaps that is how the superstition of "bad luck" came about.
The spider teaches you how to take your dreams and weave them into
reality. To teach you that the mind and spirit is so powerful, that
that which you invision can become a reality. Everything begins in the
energetic world before it manifests in the physical world.
From experience I know, that you can make your dreams come true.
Remember that old saying "Whatch what you dream or ask for, you just
might get it?" Same applys to negative dreaming or thoughts. You do
not want them to manifest into reality. I'm sure everyone has
experienced or known someone who's greatest fear came true.
So, if a spider has come into your life, perhaps it was sent to remind
you to pay attention to those negative thoughts and fantasies, or to
perhaps start doing creative visualization to achieve abundance in
your life.
As one who practices shamanism, I pay attention when a spider makes an
appearance.
I will admit, I do not like them crawling on me, but to me it is a
gift to have them do so, that I walk and radiate a non threatening
energy to them so that they can remind me of my thoughts and dreams. I
must honor and respect that. I thank the spider and take paper and put
it outside or off me.
Besides, I'm sure they think we are pretty creepy too...I mean they
are only trying to make a livin' also ;-p
To kill something, with no thought, pause or reaction, no matter how
small, to shaman this is a sign of one who is walking out of balance
and caught up within themselves.
Also, if one knows of the medicine of the spider, and still wishes it
away, well then, that might tell you a bit about whats really going on
within you. A buried feeling of being unworthy of happiness? A fear of
achieving? Get out of your own way, start digging and find out.
Peace and blessings to all,
Eileen Smith
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Eileen Smith <pat...@huntleighhealth.com> wrote:
: The spider's medicine is one in which they are eithier trying to get
: you to think and act on your goals, dreams and living your joy.
: Perhaps that is how the superstition of "bad luck" came about.
: The spider teaches you how to take your dreams and weave them into
: reality. To teach you that the mind and spirit is so powerful, that
: that which you invision can become a reality. Everything begins in the
: energetic world before it manifests in the physical world.
: From experience I know, that you can make your dreams come true.
: Remember that old saying "Whatch what you dream or ask for, you just
: might get it?" Same applys to negative dreaming or thoughts. You do
: not want them to manifest into reality. I'm sure everyone has
: experienced or known someone who's greatest fear came true.
This is really fascinating!
This reminds me of this really HUGE brown and hairy spider that made
it's appearance right next to me out of nowhere. Needless to say
I was really spooked (I'm arachnophobic) and I ran out of my
room looking for something to "gently guide him out" of my room.
I came back a few seconds later and it was *GONE*. Just gone. Looked
under my notice board, under my table, everywhere.. it was just
simply gone.
And anyone who's seen these huge spiders know that the crawl
really sl-o-o-wly. I've assumed that the spider just simply
escaped thru some route I don't know about.. but after
reading your post.. well.. maybe not.
Thanks again for this fascinating tidbit!
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Rashid1116
On that note , I'd like to remind everyone to PLEASE watch where you are
walking at all times , and save our little snail friends the misery of being
crunched !
I am very concerned for the snails , I walk ahead of my hubby and point them
out in case he doesn't see them. And the very few times I do crunch one , I
feel like the awfulest , most horrible person in the world.
So , please , just be careful , ok ?
Melissa R. :)
Shadowtaster .. the grey master
In article <199806230540...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, Rashid1116
<rashi...@aol.com> scibed their thoughts in this friendly manner
ooh firstly.. perhaps its my ignorance and no bad feelings intended, if
you are muslim dont youneed to walk behind your husband as a sign of
deference
(one of the atractions of the religion to this chauvenist hehehehe)
secondly.. i also try my utmost to save the darling snails...
they taste sooo nice in butter with garlic!
love to ya Melissa
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JENNINE CIMILDORA
Rashid1116
I never said we were "good" Muslims ! :)
Besides the fact that I agree with the majority of Islam , we are still weak
people who like beer and salami. I am working on it though !
Melissa R. :)
dragonfly
~~
> On that note , I'd like to remind everyone to PLEASE watch where you are
>walking at all times , and save our little snail friends the misery of being
>crunched !
i'm forever keeping my head down when i walk. i was walking along after
school & was heading up the road when i looked down & had to jump a
snail. when i'm on my *way* to school, they try & cross the road i'm
crossing, so i pick a few up & carry them across. yes, i do get weird looks,
but if they're going to cross the road i want to know they've succeeded
saftely ;)
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dragonfly
~~
>ooh firstly.. perhaps its my ignorance and no bad feelings intended, if
>you are muslim dont youneed to walk behind your husband as a sign of
>deference
>
>(one of the atractions of the religion to this chauvenist hehehehe)
>
>secondly.. i also try my utmost to save the darling snails...
>
> they taste sooo nice in butter with garlic!
>
>love to ya Melissa
>Vince...
when you were ill, did the *nice* side of vince slip away?
Polar Bear
Rashid1116 <rashi...@aol.com> wrote:
: Besides the fact that I agree with the majority of Islam , we are still weak
: people who like beer and salami. I am working on it though !
: Melissa R. :)
Oooohh.. bad girl. Bad bad girl!
I also had a friend who was happily tucking into his meal, at lunchtime,
*during* Ramadan...
I can't imagine what the hawkers (who are Muslim) must've been
thinking of while serving him.
BTW he also attends Novena (a Catholic prayer service usually devoted
to the Virgin Mary) to spot "cute gals"..
What it all boils down to is that we are all humans, with our own
human weaknesses...
Cheerz,
Shadowtaster .. the grey master
In article <199806232236...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, Rashid1116
>people who like beer and salami. I am working on it though !
>
>
>Melissa R. :)
bet you don't give up the beer..
^^^
ohhh i am soooo bad,,
Vince...
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and for your information this was not posted by me.. but my evil twin!!!!
Shadowtaster .. the grey master
In article <XUQnFoAR...@stormi.demon.co.uk>, dragonfly
<drag...@stormi.demon.co.uk> scibed their thoughts in this friendly
manner
>~~
>>ooh firstly.. perhaps its my ignorance and no bad feelings intended, if
>>you are muslim dont youneed to walk behind your husband as a sign of
>>deference
>>
>>(one of the atractions of the religion to this chauvenist hehehehe)
>>
>>secondly.. i also try my utmost to save the darling snails...
>>
>> they taste sooo nice in butter with garlic!
>>
>>love to ya Melissa
>>Vince...
>
>when you were ill, did the *nice* side of vince slip away?
>
i have kinda slipped into the sort of person i dont want to be...
i could blame domestic pressure, work stress.. or whatever..
but that is only a thin veil over my problem
i thank you for your comment..
i will try to be the real me.. and stop my negativity...
blessed be
*ouch*
Vince...
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Did someone say escargot?! mmmm....I love to eat snails...YUM! Thanks to
El Nino, there's been a huge bunch of snails in my parent's back yard and
I've had some of them for dinner...mmm...escargot! hee, hee, hee...
Vegas Girl
In article <199806230540...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
rashi...@aol.com (Rashid1116) wrote:
: On that note , I'd like to remind everyone to PLEASE watch where you are
:walking at all times , and save our little snail friends the misery of being
:crunched !
: I am very concerned for the snails , I walk ahead of my hubby and point them
:out in case he doesn't see them. And the very few times I do crunch one , I
:feel like the awfulest , most horrible person in the world.
: So , please , just be careful , ok ?
:
:
:Melissa R. :)
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Rashid1116
>o i pick a few up & carry them across. yes, i do get weird looks,
>but if they're going to cross the road i want to know they've succeeded
>saftely ;)
I've been known to do that too, pick them up off the sidewalk and deposit them
safely into the grass. My husband thinks I am nuts , but all he says about it
is "make sure you wash your hands " !
Melissa R. :)
Rashid1116
How can I possibly give up beer ? Or Midori Sours ... or Peppermint
Schnapps...or white wine ??
Melissa R. :)
Shadowtaster .. the grey master
In article <VegasGrrrrl-24...@usr1-ppp46.lvdi.net>,
Vegas...@yahoo.com scibed their thoughts in this friendly manner
>Did someone say escargot?! mmmm....I love to eat snails...YUM! Thanks to
>El Nino, there's been a huge bunch of snails in my parent's back yard and
>I've had some of them for dinner...mmm...escargot! hee, hee, hee...
>
>Vegas Girl
and garlic.. but i have a question..
now from this question you might pick up that my thoughts go on strange
lines.. hope some of you think the same way..
anyway.. heres the thing..
snails are nice etc..
but how didwe know..
who was it that picked up the first slind popped it in hot garlic
butter then ate it..
not only who was it,.. but what was he thinking!
and what other slimy creepy crawlies did he try before he got to the
snail.. as no way could it have been his first choice!!!!
someone on this newsgroup is sick.. and he's wearing my pants
blessed be
a...@avon.net.au
Shadowtaster .. the grey master wrote:
>
> Vegas...@yahoo.com scibed their thoughts in this friendly manner
> >Did someone say escargot?! mmmm....I love to eat snails...YUM! Thanks to
> >El Nino, there's been a huge bunch of snails in my parent's back yard and
> >I've had some of them for dinner...mmm...escargot! hee, hee, hee...
> >
> >Vegas Girl
> ok ok ok .. now i already mentioned that i like to eat snails in butter
> and garlic.. but i have a question..
>
> now from this question you might pick up that my thoughts go on strange
> lines.. hope some of you think the same way..
> anyway.. heres the thing..
>
> snails are nice etc..
>
> but how didwe know..
>
> who was it that picked up the first slind popped it in hot garlic
> butter then ate it..
>
> not only who was it,.. but what was he thinking!
>
> and what other slimy creepy crawlies did he try before he got to the
> snail.. as no way could it have been his first choice!!!!
>
Bard was singing it:
"Listen to me, and I'm sure you'll agree
That the bravest man in history
Was neither a soldier nor a champion of law,
But the first to devour an oyster raw!"
Ew! Snot on the half-shell!
Colleen J
not fond of oysters
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In article <199806230540...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
rashi...@aol.com (Rashid1116) wrote:
>
> On that note , I'd like to remind everyone to PLEASE watch where you are
> walking at all times , and save our little snail friends the misery of being
> crunched !
> I am very concerned for the snails , I walk ahead of my hubby and point them
> out in case he doesn't see them. And the very few times I do crunch one , I
> feel like the awfulest , most horrible person in the world.
> So , please , just be careful , ok ?
>
> Melissa R. :)
>
Eeek! a * spider
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obe...@mailexcite.com wrote in article <6n0638$ops$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> In article <199806250525...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> rashi...@aol.com (Rashid1116) wrote:
> >
> > How can I possibly give up beer ? Or Midori Sours ... or Peppermint
> > Schnapps...or white wine ??
> >
> > Melissa R. :)
> >
>
>
> It is quite inpossible. Try Schneider DunkelsWeisse and you're charmed for
> good eternity and beyond <:)
>
>
> slurp.. <:P¨,
>
dragonfly
~~
*laughs*
John
yesterday I got out of my truck to help a turtle cross the road and I
usually do when I see one:)
dragonfly <drag...@stormi.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<Vkzn5kAe...@stormi.demon.co.uk>...
> ~~
> > On that note , I'd like to remind everyone to PLEASE watch where you
are
> >walking at all times , and save our little snail friends the misery of
being
> >crunched !
>
> i'm forever keeping my head down when i walk. i was walking along after
> school & was heading up the road when i looked down & had to jump a
> snail. when i'm on my *way* to school, they try & cross the road i'm
> crossing, so i pick a few up & carry them across. yes, i do get weird
looks,
> but if they're going to cross the road i want to know they've succeeded
> saftely ;)
>
dragonfly
~~
>yesterday I got out of my truck to help a turtle cross the road and I
>usually do when I see one:)
a turtle? oh wow. i love turtles.
Jaye Lee
dragonfly wrote:
~~
>yesterday I got out of my truck to help a turtle cross the road and I
>usually do when I see one:)a turtle? oh wow. i love turtles.
Me too. I had a HUGE one come and knock on my back door a while back. It was a variety that doesn't live wild in our area and I mean it was BIG!! I set it up in my bathtub. It stayed a while til i arranged with a local petstore for it to come live there in a big tank they have in their front windows (had rescued crocs in it, but they got big enough to be released in a sanctuary) Then within the next two weeks my husband and his boss both came across large turtles of the same variety trying to cross the road in two distant areas of our county (360 some sq. miles). The pet store has a collection now! I think a lot of you would appriciate this place. Instead of cages they keep the animals for sale in open enclosures so people can go in and interact with them, they have a very large staff to moniter the people and make sure they behave. They perform rescuses -never turn away an animal, I mean they knew where to find a little lost crocodiles home, for goodness sakes! Actually learn how to take care of any exoctics that come their way, allow people to put up their "free kittens" signs in their front window...Wether or not you agree with the idea of pet stores or not, you have to agree that this is a far cry from your average strip mall pet store and maybe more of those guys should be following this stores example. Sorry, thought I'd just finish spinning us totally OT! Uh, did I mention the legend of the turtle that ate the world....
JENNINE CIMILDORA
We have a number of places in Baltimore who help wild and misplaced
animals. Their is a lady who will take care of any baby bird you find
(I've taken her a couple). She just sits there and they act as though
she's been hanling them since they hatched. A number of animal rescue
habitats exist around the area also. Thank goodness for them. These
poor animals are often headed toward their mating grounds which no
longre exist except under a few inces of concrete.
I like turtles too. I have two. One is a box turtle and he loves to sit
on my shoulder and look out the window while driving to our vacation
destination and appreciates a nice under the chin massage. The other is
a female red slider who would much rather bite my finger than eat food.
Really, she tries to bite me any chance she gets.
We had a turtle in my family home when I grew up, but it just
disappeared one day! Never saw him again. Same thing happened to my
tadpoles! and the little bird I nursed to health! I think they were
spirited away. (and the spirit was a 5'4", blonde haired lady who told
me they just vanished!)
Eileen Smith
On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:55:09 GMT, JENNINE CIMILDORA <j...@home.com>
wrote:
I know a couple who live out in the desert in Arizona. One species of
turtle there are endangered and the mountain bikers and developers
were not helping the situation.
This sounds so unreal, but, they found money in the walls of this old
house they bought and renovated. It was a large amount of cash. The
best thing of all is these two took that money and bought all the land
surrounding them and made it a preserve for those turtles.
Now thats what I call exceptional human beings :-]
p.s. The turtle also has very wonderful and powerful "medicine" ;-]
They connect their "person" with the gifts, beauty and healing of
Mother Earth.
Peace and Blessings,
Eileen
Eileen Smith
>
> now from this question you might pick up that my thoughts go on strange
>lines.. hope some of you think the same way..
>anyway.. heres the thing..
>
>snails are nice etc..
>
>but how didwe know..
>
> who was it that picked up the first slind popped it in hot garlic
>butter then ate it..
>
>not only who was it,.. but what was he thinking!
>
>
>and what other slimy creepy crawlies did he try before he got to the
>snail.. as no way could it have been his first choice!!!!
>
> someone on this newsgroup is sick.. and he's wearing my pants
>
>blessed be
>Vince...
......and I must borrow those pants when your not wearing them because
I have always asked that same question!!!!
Also, that train of thought is for who discovered what plants tasted
yummy, what one's made you sick, which plant helped foot fungus, etc.
etc.
What prompted that person to see a stalk, rip it out, take a bite and
say "good eating!"or fall to the ground?
Or even more strangely, to apply it to his foot and say "This
helps?"
Just a glimpse into the strange wheels turning in my brain...... :-]
Eileen
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I read somewhere that these original ideas come to people in dreams or
visions, which are taken as messages from the spiritual realm. Now, a
person would have to have stong believe in the power of their dream/vision
to eat a snail. But the plants and herbs, supposedly come from spiritual
visions that healers sought through divination/prayer/vision quests
etc...yaadah yaadah yahdaa
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Eileen Smith <pat...@huntleighhealth.com> wrote in article
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Rashid1116
>etc.
>What prompted that person to see a stalk, rip it out, take a bite and
>say "good eating!"or fall to the ground?
> Or even more strangely, to apply it to his foot and say "This
>helps?"
>
>
I , too , have wondered that , but my biggest question has always been , who
was it that was out for a nice stroll , came across a random plant and said
"hmmm... I bet if I dried this out , crumbled it up , rolled it in a leaf , lit
it with fire and smoked it , it would feel mighty good !!"
Melissa R. :)
Eileen Smith
EXACTLY what I meant! Only you said it more eloquently than I could.
:-]
Eileen
magpye
Eileen Smith wrote:
> snip
> > but my biggest question has always been , who
> >was it that was out for a nice stroll , came across a random plant and said
> >"hmmm... I bet if I dried this out , crumbled it up , rolled it in a leaf , lit
> >it with fire and smoked it , it would feel mighty good !!"
> >
> >
> >Melissa R. :)
>
I heard somewhere that there's a treatise out by Terrence McKenna stating that it
was the psychotropic plants that gave us our "god consciousness" in the first place
way back when the first guy came across a random mushroom or cactus. I think that
stuff is always there and these things just open the doors or windows and let us see
what's going on on other planes.
maggie
Vegas...@yahoo.com
Thought some of you would get a kick out of this...
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In article <35a8e781...@enews.newsguy.com>,
pat...@huntleighhealth.com wrote:
<snipped>
Rashid1116
nightmares tonight !
Melissa R. :)
Vegas...@yahoo.com
spiders, but jumping ones can startle me!
In article <199807250114...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
rashi...@aol.com (Rashid1116) wrote:
Melissa R. :)
**********************
jumping...@gmail.com
siriu...@gmail.com
> Greetings All!
> Just thought I would add my thoughts on this "spider thread".
> Did you know that the spider carries potent spirit medicine to those
> who follow the shaman's path? For them, a spider can be their totem
> (spirit guide). Can you imagine squashing a spider that was sent to
> you by the spirits in hopes of giving you it's symbolic message?!
> Yikes!
>
> The spider's medicine is one in which they are eithier trying to get
> you to think and act on your goals, dreams and living your joy.
> Perhaps that is how the superstition of "bad luck" came about.
> The spider teaches you how to take your dreams and weave them into
> reality. To teach you that the mind and spirit is so powerful, that
> that which you invision can become a reality. Everything begins in the
> energetic world before it manifests in the physical world.
> From experience I know, that you can make your dreams come true.
> Remember that old saying "Whatch what you dream or ask for, you just
> might get it?" Same applys to negative dreaming or thoughts. You do
> not want them to manifest into reality. I'm sure everyone has
> experienced or known someone who's greatest fear came true.
>
> So, if a spider has come into your life, perhaps it was sent to remind
> you to pay attention to those negative thoughts and fantasies, or to
> perhaps start doing creative visualization to achieve abundance in
> your life.
>
> As one who practices shamanism, I pay attention when a spider makes an
> appearance.
> I will admit, I do not like them crawling on me, but to me it is a
> gift to have them do so, that I walk and radiate a non threatening
> energy to them so that they can remind me of my thoughts and dreams. I
> must honor and respect that. I thank the spider and take paper and put
> it outside or off me.
>
> Besides, I'm sure they think we are pretty creepy too...I mean they
> are only trying to make a livin' also ;-p
>
> To kill something, with no thought, pause or reaction, no matter how
> small, to shaman this is a sign of one who is walking out of balance
> and caught up within themselves.
>
> Also, if one knows of the medicine of the spider, and still wishes it
> away, well then, that might tell you a bit about whats really going on
> within you. A buried feeling of being unworthy of happiness? A fear of
> achieving? Get out of your own way, start digging and find out.
>
> Peace and blessings to all,
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