His guest was one Major Ed Dames, who uses a technique called "Remote
Viewing" to solve problems.... you can check Art's website for more
info... anyway....
I was disappointed, after waiting two hours while Art plugged that Mr.
Dames had the answer to shadow people, that he simply said it was the
shadow of ghosts....
This is one of the first theories that I had, when I saw my first
"shadow person"... but after seeing them more, I ruled that out....
Mr. Dames said that what you are seeing is the shadow of something in
between the light source and the wall... namely a ghost..... I've
seen them while standing IN THE PATH of the light source and the
shadow... so that's ruled out, in my opinion.... then again, maybe
I've seen something other than "shadow people"... but all the
descriptions from other accounts fit with mine....
regardless, just wondering what you all thought of that.
Jamie
Sheryl
"Jamie" <spam...@suck.it.org> wrote in message
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>I think that shadow people ARE the spirits, not just the shadow of
>ghosts...what Ed Dames said about them being just the shadow of ghosts
>doesn't sound right to me either...for one thing, the shadow people we've
>seen have at times been more than just one dimensional, which shadows appear
>to be.
>
>Sheryl
>
>"Jamie" <spam...@suck.it.org> wrote in message
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>> I was disappointed, after waiting two hours while Art plugged that Mr.
>> Dames had the answer to shadow people, that he simply said it was the
>> shadow of ghosts....
>> Mr. Dames said that what you are seeing is the shadow of something in
>> between the light source and the wall... namely a ghost..... I've
>> seen them while standing IN THE PATH of the light source and the
>> shadow... so that's ruled out, in my opinion.... then again, maybe
>> I've seen something other than "shadow people"... but all the
>> descriptions from other accounts fit with mine....
>>
>> Jamie
I saw a shadowperson that was clearly between the closet door of my
room and the light source, plus three-dimensional to boot. There was
no mistaking that.
It would have been pretty hard for me to sit through 2 hours of mostly
advertisements just to hear the opinion of Ed Dames.
Wish I could have heard that particular Art Bell program
though.......but they don't broadcast it in my area. Bummer.
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Jamie
**********************
Exerpts From Shadow Beings - REALity Unveiled
by Dr. Morgan Spence and Dr. C. A. Reed
Why doesn't anyone believe me? This is a question I'm frequently asked by
subjects I've interviewed. Part of the problem is that humans tend to assume
that if they haven't experienced something that sounds this strange, it
can't possibly be real. Not everyone experiences childbirth firsthand, and
yet we accept that childbirth does occur because it is quite common.
Unfortunately, the less common something is, the more difficult it is for
those who have not experienced it to accept it as reality. Indeed, the only
reason this phenomenon is looked upon as "strange" at present is because it
hasn't been all that common until now. (Or at least it hasn't been commonly
discussed until now.) Therefore, it is imperative that we overcome our fear
of judgment and find others with which it is safe to discuss this
phenomenon, which will tend to be others who have encountered similar
experiences to our own.
Scientific delusions abound. Dr. C. A. Reed of the International Research
Academy states: "The truth is, it is absolutely absurd to assume that
elements isolated in an unnatural environment behave with any reliable
consistency in the same way they behave when existing in their natural
environment, which is frequently a world full of (literally) infinite
variables. Because of the tendency of many lower-level thinkers (whether
scientists or members of the general population) to accept the delusion that
one can trust the information gleaned in a laboratory with any measure of
certainty, it also follows that we have accepted that if it isn't 'provable'
by our primitive scientific standards that it does not exist. Ironically, it
is the most delusional members of our society who surround themselves with
artificial (laboratory) circumstances which are labeling those who
experience things in a natural setting as ' victims of mass delusions'.
Clearly, it is time for our scientific community to grow up, wise up, and
catch up to the more sophisticated thinking processes required by our
current reality."
****************************
Sheryl
"Jamie" <sp...@sucks.org> wrote in message
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>Wish I could have heard that particular Art Bell program
>though.......but they don't broadcast it in my area. Bummer.
If you go to Art Bell's site you might be able to download the program
to RealPlayer and listen to it. The problem with RealPlayer and
Microsoft's Window's Media Player is that you can't "capture" a
broadcast and in effect save it to your hard drive or ZIP disk.
Anybody know of any multimedia programs that can do that?
--
Justice does exist in the world, whether people choose to practice it or
not. The men of ability are being avenged. The avenger is reality. Its
weapon is slow, silent, invisible, and men perceive it only by its
consequences - by the gutted ruins and the moans of agony it leaves in
its wake. The name of the weapon is: inflation.
-- Ayn Rand, "Egalitarianism And Inflation," Philosophy: Who Needs It
You have to make sure the settings are set up right first after you download
it in order for it to work correctly (they suggest reading the tutorial),
but I've recorded audio several times using total recorder. I paid for the
program so that I could record without a limited time frame being imposed
(only 40 seconds if you don't buy it), but it's very inexpensive if you do
decide to buy it. They say $11.95 on the following page:
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stories/info/0,10615,41623,00.html
Sheryl
"Taliesin2" <shane....@verizon.net> wrote in message
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ya know, as much trouble as weve had with them, and 3 of 4 of my girls plus
myself seeingthem, my husband still says,,,:i believe they are real to
YOU"...it pisses me off, iv asked him, what do you think, mass hysteria??
geesh,,his argument is, if weve all seen them, why not him.
Thanks for the heads up. Um, which formats does it record in? Thanks.
--
Watch your thoughts, They become words.
Watch your words, They become actions.
Watch your actions, They become habits.,
Watch your habits, They become character.
Watch your character, It becomes your destiny.
---Profeta Yogensha,
aka The Prophet
"Taliesin2" <shane....@verizon.net> wrote in message
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If comfort or repeated incidents reinforce that allegiance well then you get
the picture. Look at it from hubbies point of veiw. It is nothing he has ever
seen or most people he deals with have ever seen. He lives in a world dedicated
to rationalism or possibly religious exclusivity(via Christianity). And the
very notion of such entities being real is in and of itself quite disruptive.
He is comfortable in his notion that they do not exist for him. Indeed his
willingness to bend as much as to develop a limited theory of spiritual
relativism could be seen as a testament of his personal devotion to you.
Maybe your kids picked up the ability to experience these things from
you.
-Philip
--
Beyond the gate of experience flows the Way,
Which is ever greater and more subtle than the world.
Lao Tzu
Useful as it is under everyday circumstances to say
that the world exists "out there" independent of us,
that view can no longer be upheld. There is a strange
sense in which this is a "participatory universe."
John Wheeler
Sheryl
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"It can convert different sound formats to WAV format"
Sheryl
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Sheryl
"veil" <vei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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i agree with you, to a point. I think that must be the difference between
women and men. When 3 of my kids reported seeing those creatures, i believed
it, and believed their existance, BEFORE i witnessed them myself.
But, i have to admit, when my little ones first said they saw them, i thought
it was an over active imagination, until my other dauther saw them too.
haha, not me, id love for him to experience the terror we have, then hed have
some appreciation for what we have to go through.
Are your kids retarded or anything?
--
Sweet, cockeyed, and muscle-bound Molly Malone
Sheryl
"Whisper2i" <whis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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In attempts to scientifically monitor various occult phenomena, it's been noted
that the presence of sceptics often interferes with the phenomenon. A sceptic
can say to you "you're seeing what you want to see", but it can equally be said
that the sceptic fails to see what he doesn't believe in.
Just curious, do any of you actually want to see these things, or would you
rather have them invisible to you, still knowing that they might be there?
Sheryl
"CapnFntasy" <capnf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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id rather not see or feel them, sometimes ignorance is bliss., lol
<BRRRR!>
Sheryl
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Sheryl
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It was just...
..there.
Sheryl
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