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Andreas Kohlbach
Jan 13, 2021, 10:57:04 AM1/13/21
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Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
Equipment's wash detergent is better than your ordinary detergent when it
comes to wash 8" diskettes.
Also note the wallpaper. *LOL*
I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.
I love fake ads.
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Andreas
Equipment's wash detergent is better than your ordinary detergent when it
comes to wash 8" diskettes.
Also note the wallpaper. *LOL*
I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.
I love fake ads.
--
Andreas
Marco Scholz
Jan 13, 2021, 12:09:16 PM1/13/21
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:57:02 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> wrote:
> Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
[...]
> Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
Don't forget DEC-Paste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvE4eRglbM
> I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.
Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
Group."
Andy Burns
Jan 14, 2021, 3:13:21 AM1/14/21
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Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Marco Scholz wrote:
>
>> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>
>>
>> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"
>
> Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.
I would too, but that was likely their intention.
> Marco Scholz wrote:
>
>> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>
>>
>> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"
>
> Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.
I would too, but that was likely their intention.
Quadibloc
Jan 14, 2021, 4:49:50 AM1/14/21
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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 10:09:16 AM UTC-7, Marco Scholz wrote:
> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
> Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
> Group."
And here are the other two:
> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
> Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
> Group."
Digibits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-_eCMA0X3w
DEC Checks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrxhe0CP24
John Savard
Thomas Koenig
Jan 15, 2021, 4:45:21 AM1/15/21
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Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> schrieb:
> Digibits
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-_eCMA0X3w
Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
> Digibits
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-_eCMA0X3w
Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
Quadibloc
Jan 15, 2021, 2:04:43 PM1/15/21
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On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
John Savard
Rich Alderson
Jan 15, 2021, 6:12:17 PM1/15/21
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Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
California). We were treated to tours of the nascent Computer History Museum,
and went through the blimp hangars looking for the SAIL PDP-6, which never
turned up.
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omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
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Thomas Koenig
Jan 16, 2021, 5:05:39 AM1/16/21
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Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> schrieb:
These "commercials" certainly weren't critical of DEC. They spoofed
well-known ads of the time.
> On 15 Jan 2021 18:12:15 -0500, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>
>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>>
>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
> They showed a video criticizing their own brand?
>
These "commercials" certainly weren't critical of DEC. They spoofed
well-known ads of the time.
Scott Lurndal
Jan 20, 2021, 12:15:41 PM1/20/21
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Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>> John Savard
>
>Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>> John Savard
>
>Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
Robert Netzlof
Jan 20, 2021, 12:55:23 PM1/20/21
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:15:41 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
In the 1930s and '40s, Moffett Field was home to a fleet of naval blimps. Indeed, that was its original purpose.
> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
Questor
Jan 20, 2021, 3:13:53 PM1/20/21
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:15:39 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>>Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>>
>>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
>
>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
>would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
>fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
I believe there were occasional U-2 flights out of Moffett in the late '80s. It
>>
>>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
>
>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
>would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
>fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
wasn't a regular thing, unlike the P-3 touch and goes.
Rich Alderson
Jan 20, 2021, 8:06:17 PM1/20/21
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several Naval air shows there. It was also home to Onizuka Air Force Base,
which suddenly appeared on highway signs after the fall of the Berlin Wall; it
was the big windwless cube surrounded by dozens of satellite antennae off in
one corner of the facility.
There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett. They were one of the
worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
Birds take off for entertainment.
The P-3's were a lot of fun.
Scott Lurndal
Jan 20, 2021, 9:30:56 PM1/20/21
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Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>>>> John Savard
>
>>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>>> Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
>>> at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
>>> View,
>
>> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
>> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
>> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
>
>I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
As did I (Mathilda & Central). I used to take my scanners over the day
>sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>>>> John Savard
>
>>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>>> Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
>>> at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
>>> View,
>
>> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2
>> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's
>> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
>
>I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
before the airshow and sit on the access road at the end of the runway
(gone now, replaced by light rail tracks) and listen to the tower while
watching the planes land.
The C-5As coming in during the first gulf war could be heard (loudly) while
still over Los Gatos. Really sucked at 0200. Usually had navy pilots for
neighbors.
>There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett. They were one of the
>worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
>Birds take off for entertainment.
>
>The P-3's were a lot of fun.
Indeed. Playing golf on sunnyvale municipal one could almost hit them with
>The P-3's were a lot of fun.
an errant drive.
Rich Alderson
Jan 21, 2021, 3:29:12 PM1/21/21
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sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>> I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
> As did I (Mathilda & Central).
1885 California (corner of Escuela, about 4 blocks logical south of Rengstorff).
> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>> I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
> As did I (Mathilda & Central).
David Lesher
Feb 23, 2021, 4:49:30 PM2/23/21
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sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>years ago.
And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings
>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>years ago.
>The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>Sacramento.
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Feb 24, 2021, 2:38:13 AM2/24/21
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David Lesher <wb8...@panix.com> writes:
> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>
>>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>>years ago.
>
> And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings
>
>>The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>>landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>>Sacramento.
I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>
>>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>>years ago.
>
> And more recently, CANG 129th and 130th Wings
>
>>The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>>landings or air shows. The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>>Sacramento.
force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
rank and wings.
Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
phase him, as he's used to that.
Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
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Peter Flass
Feb 24, 2021, 11:27:26 AM2/24/21
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only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.
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J. Clarke
Feb 24, 2021, 12:13:14 PM2/24/21
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Mach.
Scott Lurndal
Feb 24, 2021, 12:13:30 PM2/24/21
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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> writes:
back seat of one of the two-seater U-2's; most are single seat.
>Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>>
>
>I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
>only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.
Mythbusters did a show on the U-2 where Adam got to fly in the the
>>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>>
>
>I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
>only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.
back seat of one of the two-seater U-2's; most are single seat.
Charlie Gibbs
Feb 24, 2021, 12:34:25 PM2/24/21
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On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
flying waaaaaay above you. :-)
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JimP
Feb 24, 2021, 1:52:53 PM2/24/21
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:13:28 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
I remeber that being their trainer.
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J. Clarke
Feb 24, 2021, 7:20:10 PM2/24/21
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On 24 Feb 2021 17:33:22 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:
>On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>
>I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
>flying waaaaaay above you. :-)
Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
_you're_ flying.
wrote:
>On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>
>I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
>flying waaaaaay above you. :-)
_you're_ flying.
Daniel
Feb 25, 2021, 6:58:38 AM2/25/21
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Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>
> I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
> flying waaaaaay above you. :-)
They're usually taking off or landing at beale. And I'm usually a
> On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
>> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>
> I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them
> flying waaaaaay above you. :-)
few thousand feet above them.
I've never spotted them climbing out. They're typically doing pattern
work when I'm over there.
Andreas Kohlbach
Feb 25, 2021, 9:06:41 PM2/25/21
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reaching the altitude of a U2 cruising at max. altitude. If they weren't
friendly it could had shot down the U2. Then it was also shadowing a
Concorde.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning#Climb_performance>
| In September 1962, Fighter Command organised interception trials on
| Lockheed U-2As at heights of around 60,000-65,000 ft (18,000-20,000 m),
| which were temporarily based at RAF Upper Heyford to monitor Soviet
| nuclear tests. Climb techniques and flight profiles were developed to
| put the Lightning into a suitable attack position. To avoid risking the
| U-2, the Lightning was not permitted any closer than 5,000 ft (1,500 m)
| and could not fly in front of the U-2.
So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D
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Robert Swindells
Feb 26, 2021, 9:06:33 AM2/26/21
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 21:06:39 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:20:07 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> On 24 Feb 2021 17:33:22 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly
>>>> above Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>>>
>>>I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them flying
>>>waaaaaay above you. :-)
>>
>> Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
>> _you're_ flying.
>
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:20:07 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>> On 24 Feb 2021 17:33:22 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-02-24, Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly
>>>> above Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
>>>
>>>I would think it would be more appropriate to look for them flying
>>>waaaaaay above you. :-)
>>
>> Yeah, if you're looking down on U-2s I wanna be flying whatever
>> _you're_ flying.
>
> So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D
There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.
Quadibloc
Feb 26, 2021, 10:14:25 AM2/26/21
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also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in flight
below him.
John Savard
Quadibloc
Feb 26, 2021, 10:17:13 AM2/26/21
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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 7:06:41 PM UTC-7, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D
Not being an adventurous type, I'll settle for "flying" an English
> So an English Electric Lightning is what you want to fly. :-D
Electric Leo Marconi... Kay Dee Eff Nine!
John Savard
gareth evans
Feb 26, 2021, 10:23:43 AM2/26/21
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Feb 26, 2021, 2:42:46 PM2/26/21
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Feb 26, 2021, 3:00:02 PM2/26/21
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:14:24 -0800 (PST)
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
> it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
> could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
> flight below him.
Not for long though.
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
> it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
> could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
> flight below him.
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Feb 26, 2021, 5:21:49 PM2/26/21
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intercepted by Lightnings in exercises and once flew at the same
altitude as a Concorde are interesting but don't mean that it was
pushing its limits on those occasions.
OTGH, they should never have retired Habu.
Quadibloc
Feb 27, 2021, 1:05:05 AM2/27/21
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 3:21:49 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
> OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling.
No doubt. But it has been declassified that the original RFP for the
> OTOH, nobody who knows how high a U-2 can fly is telling.
U-2 requested the ability to fly at 70,000 feet. So while it may be able
to fly higher than that, I would not expect that it normally flies _much_
higher than that, even when doing reconnaisance.
One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
an X-15. And thenthere's the Space Shuttle. So, indeed, there are things
to fly that would fly higher.
And if they still aren't talking about how high a U-2 can fly, then accurate
information about the altitude of an SR-71 Blackbird would be even harder
to find, but as the pilot is provided with an oxygen mask designed to allow
flight at 80,000 feet, it _seems_ as if it might be just the airplaine you would
want to fly if you want to look down on a U-2.
John Savard
Bob Martin
Feb 27, 2021, 1:39:27 AM2/27/21
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Quadibloc
Feb 27, 2021, 1:45:48 AM2/27/21
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On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:05:05 PM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
> One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
> an X-15.
Speaking of the X-15 reminded me that there was a pioneer company
> One can fly almost five times as high - 67 miles high - if one is flying
> an X-15.
in space tourism - not one of the ones currently working on less expensive
booster systems - that sought publicity with a contest for a trip into space.
I tried looking it up... apparently the craft involved may have been the
Rocketplane XP. Someone did win their contest, although I don't know if
there was ever a flight... but the images I've seen don't match what I remember,
so I may be thinking of some earlier company.
John Savard
J. Clarke
Feb 27, 2021, 2:24:26 AM2/27/21
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they were giving it big sendoff or whether there was still some in
reserve I doubt we'll ever know.
And Habu would be interesting to fly. So would the Shuttle.
Daniel
Feb 27, 2021, 4:19:55 AM2/27/21
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:14:24 -0800 (PST)
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
>> it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
>> could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
>> flight below him.
>
> Not for long though.
Nor am I above Beale for long either. My plane cruises at 160kts. That
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:14:24 -0800 (PST)
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> No matter how high a U-2 can fly, it still has to land sometime, and thus
>> it also sometimes takes off from the ground. So even someone in a Cessna
>> could, if flying over the right airport at the right time, see a U-2 in
>> flight below him.
>
> Not for long though.
place is gone in no time. And yes, I do see them almost every time I fly
through and usually they're landing or approaching to land.
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
Feb 27, 2021, 5:30:02 AM2/27/21
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 01:19:53 -0800
Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
> Nor am I above Beale for long either. My plane cruises at 160kts. That
> place is gone in no time. And yes, I do see them almost every time I fly
> through and usually they're landing or approaching to land.
Wow, so busy.
Daniel <m...@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
> Nor am I above Beale for long either. My plane cruises at 160kts. That
> place is gone in no time. And yes, I do see them almost every time I fly
> through and usually they're landing or approaching to land.
Robert Swindells
Feb 27, 2021, 8:57:53 AM2/27/21
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:55:58 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.
There is a book "Remembering the Dragon Lady" of stories from U-2 pilots,
it is described in that.
They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.
There is a book "Remembering the Dragon Lady" of stories from U-2 pilots,
it is described in that.
J. Clarke
Feb 27, 2021, 9:43:15 AM2/27/21
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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 13:57:51 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells
<r...@fdy2.co.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:55:58 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:31 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 21:06:39 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>
>>> There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
>>> to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.
>>
>> Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
>
>They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.
Those were the regular scheduled routes. There were also charters and
<r...@fdy2.co.uk> wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:55:58 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:31 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 21:06:39 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>
>>> There were also a time when a U-2 near Cuba was told to change heading
>>> to avoid a Concorde at the same altitude.
>>
>> Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
>
>They also flew from New York or Washington to Mexico City for a while.
tours. And according to Air France the Concorde most assuredly did
fly into Havana.
<https://corporate.airfrance.com/en/news/first-flight-concorde-fifty-years-ago#:~:text=%2D%20January%2021%2C%201976%20%2D%20first,Rio%20de%20Janeiro%20via%20Dakar.&text=But%20Concorde%20also%20flew%20to,Greece%20and%20France%2C%20by%20Concorde!>
Vir Campestris
Feb 28, 2021, 4:11:45 PM2/28/21
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On 27/02/2021 01:55, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
The one I flew in (just once) is parked in Barbados, which was a fairly
> Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
regular route.
It so happens I'll be over there (COVID permitting) this autumn for a
holiday. I'll go and shed a tear, as I would at the grave of any much
loved friend.
Andy
David Lesher
Mar 14, 2021, 3:58:00 PM3/14/21
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Andreas Kohlbach <a...@spamfence.net> writes:
>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:31 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells wrote:
>>
>On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:06:31 -0000 (UTC), Robert Swindells wrote:
>>
>Concordes were flying London (or Paris)-New York, not Havanna.
I saw one departing MIA; as I recall that was a route it then
flew 1<n<7 days a week at the time.
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