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Mike Nowlen

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Aug 27, 2006, 1:23:44 PM8/27/06
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Original VGA Monitor, working, $20 + ship

Please email

mno...@comcast.net

Michael Trew

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Jan 10, 2022, 11:59:21 AMJan 10
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SOLD!!

;)

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Jan 11, 2022, 4:33:01 AMJan 11
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Pshurely it'd be worth a great deal more now as an antique! (IBM PS/2: 12" or 14"?)

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Kurt Weiske

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Jan 11, 2022, 10:01:14 AMJan 11
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KJ> Pshurely it'd be worth a great deal more now as an antique! (IBM PS/2:
KJ> 12" or 14"?) --

Certainly. My first "corporate" gig was in 1991, running a PS/2 model 80
with an 8514 monitor, model M keyboard, and one of those lame IBM ball mice.

I still have the model M... :)

I'd love to get a working model 80 again, but I'd want the CRT to go with
it.

Aside: I worked at a company quite recently that had a model 60, 8514
monitor and IBM (not Lexmark) 4019 printer with a tape drive that they used
to perform restores from old archival AS/400 tapes. Still working, 25 years
later.

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Kerr-Mudd, John

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Jan 11, 2022, 11:06:08 AMJan 11
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 06:33:00 -0800
"Kurt Weiske" <kurt....@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-yfw-this> wrote:

> To: Kerr-Mudd, John
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> KJ> Pshurely it'd be worth a great deal more now as an antique! (IBM PS/2:
> KJ> 12" or 14"?) --
>
> Certainly. My first "corporate" gig was in 1991, running a PS/2 model 80
> with an 8514 monitor, model M keyboard, and one of those lame IBM ball mice.
>
> I still have the model M... :)
>
> I'd love to get a working model 80 again, but I'd want the CRT to go with
> it.
>
I have a 55SX (I think) in an attic.

> Aside: I worked at a company quite recently that had a model 60, 8514
> monitor and IBM (not Lexmark) 4019 printer with a tape drive that they used
> to perform restores from old archival AS/400 tapes. Still working, 25 years
> later.
>
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Dan Espen

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Jan 11, 2022, 1:48:51 PMJan 11
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"Kurt Weiske" <kurt....@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-yfw-this> writes:

> To: Kerr-Mudd, John
> -=> Kerr-Mudd, John wrote to
> misc.forsale.computers.other.systems,comp.forsale.computers,alt.folklor <=-
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> KJ> Pshurely it'd be worth a great deal more now as an antique! (IBM PS/2:
> KJ> 12" or 14"?) --
>
> Certainly. My first "corporate" gig was in 1991, running a PS/2 model 80
> with an 8514 monitor, model M keyboard, and one of those lame IBM ball mice.
>
> I still have the model M... :)
>
> I'd love to get a working model 80 again, but I'd want the CRT to go with
> it.

I don't get it. That CRT was crap then, is it somehow not crap now?


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Grant Taylor

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Jan 11, 2022, 4:07:46 PMJan 11
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On 1/11/22 11:48 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
> I don't get it. That CRT was crap then, is it somehow not crap now?

It's still a turd, but time has polished said turd. Especially if you
hold said turd in high regard for some reason, maybe sentimental reasons.



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Ant

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Jan 11, 2022, 6:47:02 PMJan 11
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I had this with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. I remember its
screen turning tinted purple! :(

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Anne & Lynn Wheeler

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Jan 11, 2022, 7:28:49 PMJan 11
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"Kurt Weiske" <kurt....@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-yfw-this> writes:
> Aside: I worked at a company quite recently that had a model 60, 8514
> monitor and IBM (not Lexmark) 4019 printer with a tape drive that they used
> to perform restores from old archival AS/400 tapes. Still working, 25 years
> later.

late 70s, we had lots of discussions after work about majority of ibm
management were computer illiterate ... and what could be done to
improve the situation. Then at one point, there was rapid spreading
rumor that members of corporate executive committee were using email
... and all of a sudden there were a rash of 3270 terminals being
diverted from development projects to managers' desk (at the time 3270s
were part of annual budget process and required VP level signoff
... justification for "real" development) ... and would sit all day on
management desks with VM logon being burned into the screen (later the
PROFS menu) ... with administrative assistent actually handling email
... part of trying to create facade that manager was computer literate.

A decade later ... managers were diverting m80+8514 from development
projects to their desks (viewed as status symbol & facade of computer
literacy) ... still majority actual computer use being done by
administrative assistants ... and same VM Logon &/or PROFS menu being
burned into the screen.

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Michael Trew

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Jan 12, 2022, 3:50:54 PMJan 12
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On 1/11/2022 16:07, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 1/11/22 11:48 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
>> I don't get it. That CRT was crap then, is it somehow not crap now?
>
> It's still a turd, but time has polished said turd. Especially if you
> hold said turd in high regard for some reason, maybe sentimental reasons.

For instance, I have a collection of Geo Metros. Most people regarded
them as "turds" in the early 90's. They hold a certain rare/collectible
factor now, since it's darn hard to find them, and the existing ones are
very reliable with minor maintenance... most up north rusted out or were
crushed over a decade ago.

Michael Trew

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Jan 12, 2022, 3:53:13 PMJan 12
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Possibly so... I have several older VGA monitors, but none quite that
old. They are expensive or a pain to recycle, just like CRT TV's, so
they wound up in the cellar.

So I've heard, the prices of CRT's are on the rise again, for special
purposes such as photography or nostalgia -- there are not a whole lot
of them left. Perhaps my small hoard of them will pay off, LOL.

Charlie Gibbs

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Jan 12, 2022, 4:28:13 PMJan 12
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'Twas ever thus, and ever shall be. World without end, amen.

When a PPOE got their first IBM PC clones, there were three models
to choose from. As expected, the managers got the largest, fanciest
model with the biggest screen, we developers got the intermediate
model, and our poor data entry clerk, who used the machine the most,
was stuck with the cheapest model and the smallest screen. (They
treated her like dirt - several times she stormed out of the office
in tears, and one day she never came back.)

But it's not just computer hardware. When we upgraded to a new
phone system, the vendor representative training us on the new
gear was showing us the various phone sets, from a plain 2500 set
to the fancy "Supersets" with multiple lines, a display screen,
and enough buttons to do anything. She pointed out that the
Superset was ideal for a secretary handling a couple of bosses,
who themselves only needed a 2500 set - but that in most cases
the bosses took the Supersets for themselves and made the secretary
make do with a 2500 set. Sure enough, when the hardware was
installed, that's exactly what happened. Fortunately, after
a while sanity prevailed and the secretary was given her own
Superset - although IIRC the bosses kept theirs too.

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Bob Eager

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Jan 12, 2022, 4:40:39 PMJan 12
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:28:11 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> But it's not just computer hardware. When we upgraded to a new phone
> system, the vendor representative training us on the new gear was
> showing us the various phone sets, from a plain 2500 set to the fancy
> "Supersets"
> with multiple lines, a display screen,
> and enough buttons to do anything. She pointed out that the Superset
> was ideal for a secretary handling a couple of bosses,
> who themselves only needed a 2500 set - but that in most cases the
> bosses took the Supersets for themselves

Indeed. When IBM produced the short-lived PC/IX for the PC/AT, most of
those systems seemed to end up on bosses' desks. They didn't have a clue
what to do with them.



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D.J.

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Jan 12, 2022, 5:00:37 PMJan 12
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When the university I was working on my degree on first got Intel 386
machines, for the graphics lab, two faculty tried to get me to move
computers to their office. I laughed at them and told them to keep
their hands off.

They asked me if I knoew who they were ? I replied, yeah, thieves. I
said hands off.

Just then my boss came back, with the Campus Dean, and they told them
to get out of the graphics lab unless they were going to teach a
class. And the computers were staying in that room.

They complained to my boss. My boss laughed, I laughed, the Dean said,
'Get out !" to them. They left.

I may be slightly misremembering exactly what I said to them, but you
get the idea.
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J. Clarke

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Jan 12, 2022, 6:54:42 PMJan 12
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Around here the town has a container at the landfill for electronics
of all kinds. Take your old dead TV or monitor, leave it in the
container, they'll recycle it.

Ant

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Jan 13, 2022, 12:53:54 AMJan 13
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In alt.folklore.computers Ant <a...@zimage.comant> wrote:
> In alt.folklore.computers Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> > On 8/27/2006 13:23, Mike Nowlen wrote:
> > > Original VGA Monitor, working, $20 + ship
> > >
> > > Please email
> > >
> > > mno...@comcast.net

> > SOLD!!

> > ;)

> I had this with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. I remember its
> screen turning tinted purple! :(

Oh and it was a 8512 model. ;)

Michael Trew

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Jan 13, 2022, 1:53:19 PMJan 13
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I wish we had that. There is some kind of day it's offered once per
year, but you have to pay per CRT, tire, etc.

Grant Taylor

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Jan 13, 2022, 2:49:45 PMJan 13
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On 1/13/22 11:53 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> I wish we had that.  There is some kind of day it's offered once per
> year, but you have to pay per CRT, tire, etc.

The last three cities that I've lived in had some form of e-waste
recycling. All three of them had nominal fees for so called /hard/ /to/
/recycle/ items; CRTs (monitors / TVs / etc.), batteries (lead / acid),
and tires (rubber). Usually this cost was on the order of $3 ~ $5 per
item (different cities were different prices). Purportedly this was to
cover their cost of properly disposing of the items ~> their hazardous
waste.

Aside: I don't remember what makes the CRTs hazardous, but it's
something in them, maybe the phosphorus coating.

Scott Lurndal

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Jan 13, 2022, 3:10:08 PMJan 13
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Leaded glass.

Bob Eager

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Jan 13, 2022, 4:44:13 PMJan 13
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And risk of implosion.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Jan 13, 2022, 5:30:09 PMJan 13
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On 13 Jan 2022 21:44:11 GMT
Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:

> And risk of implosion.

The broken TVs stacked outside TV rental shops in the 70s always
had the neck of the tube broken off to prevent that ... well almost always.
Just once we young scrotes found one that they'd missed and carefully placed
it face up against the wall before climbing the fire escape to the flat roof
with a handy brick ... it's a good thing we ducked back because the glass
flew up past the rooftop.

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Dan Espen

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Jan 13, 2022, 8:09:28 PMJan 13
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes:

> On 13 Jan 2022 21:44:11 GMT
> Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> And risk of implosion.
>
> The broken TVs stacked outside TV rental shops in the 70s always
> had the neck of the tube broken off to prevent that ... well almost always.
> Just once we young scrotes found one that they'd missed and carefully placed
> it face up against the wall before climbing the fire escape to the flat roof
> with a handy brick ... it's a good thing we ducked back because the glass
> flew up past the rooftop.

As a kid I lived in a place that frequently had TVs dumped.
We heard the word "implosion" and thought that would be really cool so
we spent hours throwing rocks at those tubes.

First the screen itself is really hard to break.
Second, nothing unusual happens when you finally break the tube.


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Ant

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Jan 13, 2022, 9:35:50 PMJan 13
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None of the CRT TVs worked to be reused? :(

Dan Espen

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Jan 14, 2022, 7:43:02 AMJan 14
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a...@zimage.comANT (Ant) writes:

> Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> > On 13 Jan 2022 21:44:11 GMT
>> > Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And risk of implosion.
>> >
>> > The broken TVs stacked outside TV rental shops in the 70s always
>> > had the neck of the tube broken off to prevent that ... well almost always.
>> > Just once we young scrotes found one that they'd missed and carefully placed
>> > it face up against the wall before climbing the fire escape to the flat roof
>> > with a handy brick ... it's a good thing we ducked back because the glass
>> > flew up past the rooftop.
>
>> As a kid I lived in a place that frequently had TVs dumped.
>> We heard the word "implosion" and thought that would be really cool so
>> we spent hours throwing rocks at those tubes.
>
>> First the screen itself is really hard to break.
>> Second, nothing unusual happens when you finally break the tube.
>
> None of the CRT TVs worked to be reused? :(

Every tube had previously lost vacuum? Nope, don't believe so.
These were individual sets discarded not some corporate dump.

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Chris Bigos

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Jan 14, 2022, 9:08:45 AMJan 14
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> >Aside: I don't remember what makes the CRTs hazardous, but it's
> >something in them, maybe the phosphorus coating.

And putting your back out moving them...
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