Old naked woman ASCII art
Kirk Is
in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
programs?
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It is adapted to the environment of its ancestors.
--Begon, Harper & Townsend.
Nick Spalding
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
> any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
> programs?
The ones I remember were on decks of cards.
--
Nick Spalding
yu...@bgs.com
kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) wrote:
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
> any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
> programs?
>
There were whole libraries of these in the late '60's (well before ftp), and
most were actually generated by programs. They were not exactly ascii art,
but were produced by selectively overprinting lines on a line printer to
produce density gradients. An exception was one variation on the Mona Lisa
done by CDC's graphics division in Burlington, MA. (formerly Digigraphics).
To produce this one, they digitized a copy of Mona, than ran it through a
program to produce a picture on a vector plotter with density gradients
provided by overplotting. Very good resolution at poster size. CDC used to
give them to customers as advertising tools. The library I was familiar with
was CDC specific, and it was distributed on 9-track tape. I'm sure, however,
that there were versions for other computers.
BTW, it wasn't only naked ladies, there were pictures of the moon, startrek
stuff, scenery, and well, lost of naked ladies.
Joe "One life sized one fit on the door of a 6600" Yuska
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Sergej Roytman
Kirk Is <kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu> wrote:
>You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
>in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
>any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
>they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
>programs?
Slightly before my time, but I remember seeing a pretty neat hack for
generating these in an old issue of _Byte._ The substrate was a dot
matrix printer with friction feed. The construction plans called for
attaching a phototransistor to the print head and feeding a picture to
scan into the printer. The software driver sent a bunch of ' 's
followed by a '\n' to the printer, and read the light levels from the
A/D converter on the phototransistor interface. The driver contained a
table of characters indexed by albedo (0 -> ' ', 1 -> '.', ...,
255 -> '#', maybe) and wrote the digitized values into the output file.
On the other hand, some pieces of ASCII art were obviously generated by
hand.
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As for the ASCII pics of naked women, shame on you for even looking at
such things! Go outside and play or something---or chase after the
real ones! (Oi! I'm starting to sound like my parents (well, except
for the thing about the chasing)! Too many all-nighters!)
--
Sergej Roytman
Dave Brockman
>
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
> any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
> programs?
When I worked part time for the phone company (AT&T Toll) in the early
sixties, such material would appear on the teletype machines in great
quantity around Christmas time. AFAIK, it was all handmade by TTY (TWX)
ops with time on their hands. Storage, for me at least, was paper tape
(5 bit, Baudot). I had an archive (ok, it was several paper grocery
bags) of a couple dozen tapes. I had a Mona Lisa, a nicely rendered
Madonna and Child and bunch of other stuff including a naked lady or
two. In those days, as a Ham, I had TTY gear of my own and passed the
pictures on that way.
**************************
Dave Brockman/Portable
http://www.oz.net/~daveb
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Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879
by kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is):
> Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or
> with clever conversion programs?
The nude is, I believe, a digitized version of a playboy centerfold from
the 1960's. I first saw it in around 1969, and I knew at least a few
students who had copies of this on punched cards. Just run the card deck
with the right print program, and it would print out the nude. (To
estimate the size, note that the image, in printed form, took about 4
pages of paper, where each page was 66 lines by 120 characters. The
low-res versions of this image used no overprinting, so they took 2
80-column punched cards per line. 4 pages times 66 lines per page times
2 cards per line 528 cards; a single box of punched cards was 2000 cards,
so this isn't too big to carry around. The best versions of this image
used overprinting to get darker blacks. For those, you'd probably just
use the same 2000 card file, but with a 10-line FORTRAN program to
generate decent overprint sequences on the output instead of the 5-line
program used to patch together two card images per printed line.
How was it digitized? Beats me. There were two or three nudes in
circulation, as well as the Mona Lisa and Alfred E. Newman. I'm pretty
sure that Mona Lisa and some of the nudes were machine digitized, but some
of the nudes had text that looked hand-done -- strong hints of this come
from the use of straight-line elements like | - / and \ to mark edges.
Digitizing programs of the era would be extremely unlikely to align such
marks with edge directions; they'd just go for the grey level.
I know that digitizers were available. Most of them back then were custom
built, typically by university physics departments, typically for the
purpose of digitizing 35mm film from bubble-chambers. Once you put such
a digitizer in the hands of a bored grad student, though, all kinds of
things become possible. After all, the digitizer doesn't care where the
35mm film comes from or what's on it, and the attached minicomputers
weren't all that hard to program.
Doug Jones
jo...@cs.uiowa.edu
Mike Swaim
: How was it digitized? Beats me. There were two or three nudes in
: circulation, as well as the Mona Lisa and Alfred E. Newman.
I remember seeing Opus the penguin as well in the early '90s.
--
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Home: sw...@c-com.net
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Eric Fischer
> Slightly before my time, but I remember seeing a pretty neat hack for
> generating these in an old issue of _Byte._ The substrate was a dot
> matrix printer with friction feed. The construction plans called for
> attaching a phototransistor to the print head and feeding a picture to
> scan into the printer. The software driver sent a bunch of ' 's
> followed by a '\n' to the printer, and read the light levels from the
> A/D converter on the phototransistor interface.
Thunderware sold a device called Thunderscan in the mid 1980s that
was a lot like this. It fit into an Apple Imagewriter in place of
the ribbon cartridge and was made a workable (if slow) scanner.
eric
Mark Blain
>You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
>in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
>any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
>they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
>programs?
For anybody who enjoys this stuff, check out the group "alt.ascii-art".
Lots of samples, ascii "sig" files, pointers to web and ftp sites full of
ascii-art, and programs to convert existing graphics files to ascii...
FAQ file: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise/ascii/faq.html
URL: news:alt.ascii-art
Warren Toomey
kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) writes:
|> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
|> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
|> any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they predate FTP, how
|> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
|> programs?
I have a few of these archived away as files: nudes, Snoopy, Tweety Bird etc.
Does anybody want to see them? Perhaps someone can set up a web site as a
central repository?
Cheers,
Warren
P.S I remember a lovely, overprinted, moon hung on the wall in the CompSci
department of my university. I'd sure love to get my hands on that one!
Dav Vandenbroucke
Epson MX-80 or Okidata ML-92. If you looked at them without your
glasses, since the characters blurred and all you saw was the density
of dots.
"Can I just do it until I need glasses?"
Dav Vandenbroucke
dav_and_france...@compuserve.com
Charlie Gibbs
(Kirk Is) writes:
>You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked
>woman in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does
>anyone have any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they
>predate FTP, how they were archived, if they were made by hand or with
>clever conversion programs?
I have a rather large collection of these things, which started when
I was in university (circa 1969). Most of them I got as card decks
or disk or tape files, but I do remember painstakingly punching one
deck from a printout.
No doubt most of them were made up by hand, but some were digitized.
I have a number of pictures that were produced by overprinting each
line five times or more to get the desired shading, as well as
carefully choosing the characters in each cell. My largest picture
is one of the moon - you had to separate the printout into five
sections and tape them together to form the final picture, which
was about 5 feet square. It totaled about 9300 line images - far
too much for even a dedicated hacker to want to tackle, I think.
I'd love to try converting it to a 640x480 grayscale picture -
it would probably look quite nice on a modern screen.
Fortunately I got the collection off 9-track tape and onto
floppies while I had the chance.
--
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jmfb...@aol.com
>In article <7g7mbg$i7g$2...@news3.tufts.edu>,
>> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona
>>lisa or naked woman
>> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout.
>BTW, it wasn't only naked ladies, there were pictures of
>the moon, startrek stuff, scenery, and well, lost of
>naked ladies.
Right. There was a lot of stuff. But it was always the naked
lady that got printed first [broadly grinning emoticon here].
IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
produce a banner for protest marches, etc. Of course, whenever
someone tried to print one for the first time, s/he always
forgot to disengage the carriage control tape on the printer.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
Joe Morris
>Right. There was a lot of stuff. But it was always the naked
>lady that got printed first [broadly grinning emoticon here].
>IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
>take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
>produce a banner for protest marches, etc. Of course, whenever
>someone tried to print one for the first time, s/he always
>forgot to disengage the carriage control tape on the printer.
As someone else has noted, the so-called "ASCII art" master(?)pieces
not only predate FTP, they predate the electronic computer by a long
time. Back in the 1950s one of the amateur radio magazines (probably
_CQ_) would print examples of the Christmas cards that hams had
created using their TeleType machines (and I don't think that I ever
saw one that used overprinting), but the hams routinely credited
the origin of the practice to the pre-WWII teleprinter operators.
One variant of the "nekkid lady" printout that I've not seen mentioned
here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the 1960s there was
a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape drive) that allowed the
operator to print several picture of a woman on the 1403 printer,
removing articles of clothing by changing the sense switch settings.
the last printout (with all clothing "removed") put her behind a
modesty panel.
Of course, none of this would be considered acceptable in today's
environment, but in the 1960s it was so common as to be rather
unremarkable, and a shop that didn't have some "nekkid lady" artwork
was probably the exception.
Joe Morris
jmfb...@aol.com
jcmo...@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG (Joe Morris) wrote:
>jmfb...@aol.com writes:
>
>>Right. There was a lot of stuff. But it was always the naked
>>lady that got printed first [broadly grinning emoticon here].
>>IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
>>take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
>>produce a banner for protest marches, etc. Of course, whenever
>>someone tried to print one for the first time, s/he always
>>forgot to disengage the carriage control tape on the printer.
>
>As someone else has noted, the so-called "ASCII art" master(?)pieces
>not only predate FTP, they predate the electronic computer by a long
>time. Back in the 1950s one of the amateur radio magazines (probably
>_CQ_) would print examples of the Christmas cards that hams had
>created using their TeleType machines (and I don't think that I ever
>saw one that used overprinting), but the hams routinely credited
>the origin of the practice to the pre-WWII teleprinter operators.
Neat.
>
>One variant of the "nekkid lady" printout that I've not seen mentioned
>here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the 1960s there was
>a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape drive) that allowed the
>operator to print several picture of a woman on the 1403 printer,
>removing articles of clothing by changing the sense switch settings.
>the last printout (with all clothing "removed") put her behind a
>modesty panel.
What's that saying about "...the price of their toys"? :-)
>
>Of course, none of this would be considered acceptable in today's
>environment, but in the 1960s it was so common as to be rather
>unremarkable, and a shop that didn't have some "nekkid lady" artwork
>was probably the exception.
Yeah, I think of it as regression. Although, after the nekkid lady
was printed, I did ask where was nekkid man with great interest.
I got strange looks...for some reason :-))).
Kirk Is
Ones that work on the very small level, where choosing the right
character for it's shape is crucial, like my old self-portrait:
_____
-O\O
( = )
Usually done by hand.
I remember seeing an old puzzle book that had "typewriter toons", little
jokes you could make, something like
/
..... /
Which was a bunch of ants marching by a blade of grass (they were funnier
than that, however, and reliant on overstriking and positioning the
paper.)
and then there's the type that is much more dependent on characters for
what shade of grey the represent. These are usually larger, and can be
automated.
There's a hybrid of these too, where you choose characters based on what
part of the box they fill.
it's funny, how despite the prevalance of bitmapped displays, because
terminals didn't do overstrike, overstrike may never really return....
--
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"The desires of the heart are as crooked as corkscrews." --W.H.Auden
Mark P.
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked
> woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone
> have
> any folklore about these?
There were also the calendars, with the ascii art at the top. I seem to
remember that Snoopy of Peanuts fame was very popular.
Mark P.
David Carey
Joe Morris <jcmo...@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG> wrote in message
news:7g9lov$2...@top.mitre.org...
>
> One variant of the "nekkid lady" printout that I've not seen mentioned
> here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the 1960s there was
> a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape drive) that allowed the
> operator to print several picture of a woman on the 1403 printer,
> removing articles of clothing by changing the sense switch settings.
> the last printout (with all clothing "removed") put her behind a
> modesty panel.
In 1965 I first saw this on a 1401 (running from a loadable card deck).
picture(female form in evening dress)
THIS IS EDITH, ANOTHER OPTIONAL FEATURE OF YOUR IBM 1401.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HER RE-RUN THE DECK WITH SS A.
---no lower case on the 1403 printer in those days---
(female form in bra and panties)
WARNING: FURTHER SWITCHING OF SS B IS NOT RECOMMENDED!
(female form holding modesty shield) which states:
SORRY, YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING WITH A 1401.
(NO MATTER WHAT OUR SALES FORCE MIGHT SAY.)
Good clean fun in those days!
dc
gla...@glass2.lexington.ibm.com
>In article <7g9lov$2...@top.mitre.org>,
> jcmo...@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG (Joe Morris) wrote:
>>jmfb...@aol.com writes:
>>
>>>Right. There was a lot of stuff. But it was always the naked
>>>lady that got printed first [broadly grinning emoticon here].
>>>IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
>>>take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
>>>produce a banner for protest marches, etc. Of course, whenever
>>>someone tried to print one for the first time, s/he always
>>>forgot to disengage the carriage control tape on the printer.
>>
>>As someone else has noted, the so-called "ASCII art" master(?)pieces
>>not only predate FTP, they predate the electronic computer by a long
>>time. Back in the 1950s one of the amateur radio magazines (probably
>>_CQ_) would print examples of the Christmas cards that hams had
>>created using their TeleType machines (and I don't think that I ever
>>saw one that used overprinting), but the hams routinely credited
>>the origin of the practice to the pre-WWII teleprinter operators.
>
>Neat.
>
>>
>>here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the 1960s there was
>>a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape drive) that allowed the
>>operator to print several picture of a woman on the 1403 printer,
>>removing articles of clothing by changing the sense switch settings.
>>the last printout (with all clothing "removed") put her behind a
>>modesty panel.
>
>>
>>Of course, none of this would be considered acceptable in today's
>>environment, but in the 1960s it was so common as to be rather
>>unremarkable, and a shop that didn't have some "nekkid lady" artwork
>>was probably the exception.
>
>Yeah, I think of it as regression. Although, after the nekkid lady
>was printed, I did ask where was nekkid man with great interest.
>I got strange looks...for some reason :-))).
>
>/BAH
>
>
>Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
I remember that in a high school typing class (mid 1970s), we used
to type pictures of things (Think of it as finger exercises and
coordination improvement drills.). I can remember sheets of
instructions (e.g., 8 spaces, 3 '#', 4 spaces, 5 '@', etc.) which,
when followed, would result in pictures of presidents, houses,
Snoopy, etc. (But, NEVER any nekkid ladies.). It would have been a
small step from typing one of these on a typewriter to producing one
on a teletype, especially if it had been keyed into a paper tape.
I can also remember the card decks for things such as the Star Trek
Enterprise (prized even more than the nekkid ladies by certain of
the computer geeks), Snoopy on his dog-house, and a nekkid lady
with a calendar which advertised a certain brand of mainframe (CDC?).
I may even still have some of the instruction sheets for the typing
class, and some of the printouts (No, you're NOT getting my
Snoopy!). Unfortunately, I wasn't priviledged enough to actually
get any of the card decks to produce such images (Not that it would
matter much now, since it's so hard to find a card reader.). I
suppose it would be possible to OCR the printouts to recreate the
card decks (if anyone could find a card punch).
Dave
P.S. Standard Disclaimer: I work for them, but I don't speak for them.
P.P.S. I think I still do have a banner program for a 1403 line
printer, mostly written in Fortran. That is, if I didn't lose it
that time I tried to format a temp disk when I had the flu, and
missed! :-/
Paul Grayson
>
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
> programs?
>
I recall that a long time ago (perhaps the late 1970s) one UK magazine
(TV Times?) had a set of instructions for making such a picture of
Prince Charles on a standard typewriter. This consisted of overprinting
each line up to 3 times with different characters. I did about the first
10 lines then gave up. This was taken from a book that contained
instructions for many such pictures, which could be ordered from the
said magazine.
Charlie Gibbs
(jmfbahciv) writes:
>In article <7g9lov$2...@top.mitre.org>,
>jcmo...@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG (Joe Morris) wrote:
>
>>One variant of the "nekkid lady" printout that I've not seen
>>mentioned here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the
>>1960s there was a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape
>>drive) that allowed the operator to print several picture of
>>a woman on the 1403 printer, removing articles of clothing by
>>changing the sense switch settings. the last printout (with
>>all clothing "removed") put her behind a modesty panel.
>
>What's that saying about "...the price of their toys"? :-)
But even then there could be budget toys. The version of the
strip-tease that I saw was printed on a Univac 1004, which was
basically a hopped-up electronic version of the IBM 407 accounting
machine, complete with a 400-cpm reader and an early 400-lpm version
of Univac's indestructible drum printer. It was programmed by wiring
a plugboard, but it had a whopping 961 (31x31) 6-bit bytes of core
(a second core bank was optionally available).
Someone came up with a board called the "emulator", which made
the 1004 act like a primitive stored-program computer. Later,
some hardware modifications and a super-duper plug board full
of transistors turned it into the 1005, which was still slow,
but at least it was up to 4K of core by then.
Joe Morris
>Kirk Is wrote:
>> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked
>> woman
>> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone
>> have
>> any folklore about these?
>There were also the calendars, with the ascii art at the top. I seem to
>remember that Snoopy of Peanuts fame was very popular.
And the ubiquitous Alfred E. Newman pictures.
Lots of students got (and still get) the idea that adding cute touches
to computer output is (in today's parlance) "cool". It can backfire,
however:
One day in 1962 I was helping the lab instructor in MIT's freshman
computer course (6.41, "Introduction to Automatic Computation";
supposedly taught by Marvin Minsky but actually taught by the
grad instructor, Bob Fabry). The students had a programming
assignment to write a square-root subroutine in FORTRAN, with
extra credit for diagnosing a negative argument. Most of the
students did recognize a negative argument, and several of them
printed a picture of Alfred E. Neuman above the error message.
Some of the pictures were quite good -- *especially* for students
who supposedly are writing their first FORTRAN program.
That's fine so far, but (especially that long ago) one should expect
eyebrows to rise when the text of the error message could be
classified as somewhat obscene. One should expect even higher
eyebrows if *two* students use the identical obscene error message
and high-quality Alfred E. Neuman picture...especially when their
similar output prompted a closer look at their programs, which
turned out to be almost identical. (Yes, they were both pledges
at the same fraternity.)
One could say that ASCII art (well..."BCD art" at that time)
is fine in its place, but it should not be used in a half-ASCII
fashion.
Joe Morris
Joe Morris
>and then there's the type that is much more dependent on characters for
>what shade of grey the represent. These are usually larger, and can be
>automated.
That technique wasn't the exclusive property of the artists. For a
long time there were certain applications that needed to be able
to output 3D information as shaded regions on a 2D graph. When our
facility got requests for these jobs to be run they had to make sure
that the printer had a new ribbon, and had instructions in the run
book to check the first output page before allowing the job's output
to print.
That first page included a gray scale (aka "chip chart") with various
overstrike patterns. My memory on this is as fuzzy as an exhausted
keypunch ribbon (see the recent thread -- pun *not* intended) but I
seem to recall that with a fresh ribbon and a clean type train the
chip chart could display perhaps 15 clearly distinguishable densities.
Joe Morris
Neil Franklin
>
> Ones that work on the very small level, where choosing the right
> character for it's shape is crucial, like my old self-portrait:
Not to forget writing large characters that way.
/" |_| /\ |) /\ /" "|" |_ |) <"
\_ | | /--\ |\ /--\ \_ | |_ |\ _>
There even exists an program to do that automatically, called Figlet,
with an entire selection of fonts.
> and then there's the type that is much more dependent on characters for
> what shade of grey the represent. These are usually larger, and can be
> automated.
cCc H H [] RRb !
C H__H ][ R R @
C H""H [__] RRP !
"C" H H A A R 'b . is a quick and crude one
And they can be even animated. I nearly fell over when I the first
time saw an mated one on an PC 80x25 character screen, including
digitalised and converted life video footage of the creators.
They have written an library (aalib) that allows this to be done as if
it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
Generally alt.ascii-art is your friend here.
> it's funny, how despite the prevalance of bitmapped displays, because
> terminals didn't do overstrike, overstrike may never really return....
Overstriking does not work on an bitmap video display (or on an laser
printer) because you cannnot set an black pixel to even blacker!
OTOH there exists programs such as "less" which can recognize the
char <BS> char pattern (and _ <BS> char) and send bold (and underline)
escape sequences to an character or bitmap display (or laser printer).
Spiffy when one has xterm and sets that to make man pages 3 colored
(in my case background black, writing white bold green, underline
yellow).
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Eivind
>They have written an library (aalib) that allows this to be done as if
>it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
Aye. It's well worth the download. There even exist a verion of doom
linked against aalib. doom in ascii-art version. Gotta love it.
mvh,
Eivind
Julian Thomas
>>>there was a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape
>>>drive) that allowed the operator to print several picture of
>>>a woman on the 1403 printer, removing articles of clothing by
>>>changing the sense switch settings. the last printout (with
>>>all clothing "removed") put her behind a modesty panel.
EDIE
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Charlie Gibbs
(Joe Morris) writes:
>That first page included a gray scale (aka "chip chart") with various
>overstrike patterns. My memory on this is as fuzzy as an exhausted
>keypunch ribbon (see the recent thread -- pun *not* intended) but I
>seem to recall that with a fresh ribbon and a clean type train the
>chip chart could display perhaps 15 clearly distinguishable densities.
On the other hand, I found that a somewhat worn ribbon gave a better
gray scale whenever I printed these things. A brand-new ribbon would
drop so much ink on the paper that overprinting wouldn't make it
that much darker.
I agree on the clean type train (or band, or bar, or whatever),
though. Smudging was never a good thing.
Michael Wojcik
In article <7g7mbg$i7g$2...@news3.tufts.edu>, kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) writes:
> You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked woman
> in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does anyone have
> they were archived, if they were made by hand or with clever conversion
> programs?
In afc tradition, I must reminisce.
Among the projects I worked on at IBM were two X Windows graphics
extensions - XGKS, an implementation of the 2D GKS library used by
some scientific software, and PEX, a 3D extension. We were working
on PC RTs running AOS, essentially a rebadged BSD 4.x Unix, and our
machine hostnames were all the names of painters - picasso,
rosetti, davinci, and so on.
I had a machine named matisse, so to decorate the motd (the Unix
"message of the day" file that's displayed for users as they log
in) I created a lovely, if somewhat simplified, ASCII rendition of
Henri M's Blue Nude, a poster of which (supplied by the group
leader, the generous and talented Amy Pitts) hung on the wall in
the office.
IBM Cambridge was a casual place. On rare occasions, however, we
had to endure suit invasions from corporateland (ie. any of several
cites in eastern New York). During one such I was called on to
provide an impromptu demo - and was informed by the attending alien
that ASCII pictures of naked women were not appropriate for IBM
equipment.
Which lead to version 1.1 (Wed Dec 20 18:07:21 EST 1989):
/ '` \
/ '\ |
/ / | |
/ / | |
,' / | |
| |~~`_ | |
~ | | - | \
| / )O |_( \_---_D
| ((( --l E`. _------__
| O | R | ' `
\ _-' -_O_-' `---____--' `
~~~~~'_ `--_S `
/ --__ N`. / `|
| / \ E | IBM | |\
| | `-_C_-' | / |
Big Blue Nude
(miketisse)
Fans of the Cubists will note the stunning resemblance to the
original.
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Chuck Maurer
>In article <7g7mbg$i7g$2...@news3.tufts.edu> kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu
>(Kirk Is) writes:
>
>>You know, in a few labs I've seen pictures of the mona lisa or naked
>>woman in ascii art- usually on more than one page of printout. Does
>>anyone have any folklore about these? Where they originated, if they
>>predate FTP, how they were archived, if they were made by hand or with
>>clever conversion programs?
>
>I have a rather large collection of these things, which started when
>I was in university (circa 1969). Most of them I got as card decks
>or disk or tape files, but I do remember painstakingly punching one
>deck from a printout.
>
>No doubt most of them were made up by hand, but some were digitized.
>I have a number of pictures that were produced by overprinting each
>line five times or more to get the desired shading, as well as
>carefully choosing the characters in each cell. My largest picture
>is one of the moon - you had to separate the printout into five
>sections and tape them together to form the final picture, which
>was about 5 feet square. It totaled about 9300 line images - far
>too much for even a dedicated hacker to want to tackle, I think.
>I'd love to try converting it to a 640x480 grayscale picture -
>it would probably look quite nice on a modern screen.
I had one of a plane flying by a suspension bridge. It was 8 panels wide.
You had to have a large section of unused wall to display it.
I seem to remember something on them that they came from Princeton.
>
>Fortunately I got the collection off 9-track tape and onto
>floppies while I had the chance.
>
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Robert Billing
> IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
> take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
I wrote one of these when I was working for a bank on Wall St in 78, we
had "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year" around two sides of the office. I
then had to run it again to do "Happy Hannukah" (sp?) for the other
side.
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Robert Billing <uncl...@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I wrote one of these when I was working for a bank on Wall St in 78, we
>had "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year" around two sides of the office. I
>then had to run it again to do "Happy Hannukah" (sp?) for the other
>side.
A triangular office? That's novel. Or maybe you meant the other side of the
paper.
-- Derek
Chris Stratford
Robert Billing <uncl...@tnglwood.demon.co.uk> writes:
> I wrote one of these when I was working for a bank on Wall St in 78, we
> had "Merry Christmas, Happy New Year" around two sides of the office. I
> then had to run it again to do "Happy Hannukah" (sp?) for the other
> side.
My favourite one of these was hung on the wall of one of the terminal
rooms at University (UKC). It was about ten sheets long with the
words "Don't waste paper"!
Chris.
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> A triangular office? That's novel. Or maybe you meant the other side of the
> paper.
This sort of thing always happens. I didn't go over the windows, just
the, "brick and rivet, steel and lime"[1] walls.
[1] I may have got the quote wrong.
Howard S Shubs
dpes...@u.washington.edu (Derek Peschel) wrote:
>A triangular office? That's novel. Or maybe you meant the other side of the
>paper.
I work in a triangular building. Rare, yes, but understandable when you
consider that Arco built the thing. The whole place has triangles as a
motif.
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Julian Thomas
> We were working
>on PC RTs running AOS, essentially a rebadged BSD 4.x Unix, and our
>machine hostnames were all the names of painters - picasso,
er - wasn't that AIX?
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by jt5...@epix.net (Julian Thomas):
> In <7gb0ap$a...@news1.newsguy.com>, on 04/30/99
> at 01:17 AM, michael...@merant.com (Michael Wojcik) said:
>
>> We were working
>>on PC RTs running AOS, essentially a rebadged BSD 4.x Unix, and our
>>machine hostnames were all the names of painters - picasso,
>
> er - wasn't that AIX?
AIX was and is an IBM product for the RT and RS 6000 and, I guess,
the Power architecture that the RS 6000 begat.
AOS was IBM's remarking of BSD Unix. Here's a sample of a typical
file header from the AOS source:
/*
* 5799-WZQ (C) COPYRIGHT = NONE
* LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY OF IBM
*/
/* $Header:acct.h 12.0$ */
/* $ACIS:acct.h 12.0$ */
/* $Source: /ibm/acis/usr/sys/h/RCS/acct.h,v $ */
/*
* Copyright (c) 1982, 1986 Regents of the University of California.
* All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement
* specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution.
*
* @(#)acct.h 7.1 (Berkeley) 6/4/86
*/
How is it that I happen to have this bit of text handy? I'm typing
this on an IBM RT running AOS.
Doug Jones
jo...@cs.uiowa.edu
John G Dobnick
>
> carefully choosing the characters in each cell. My largest picture
> is one of the moon - you had to separate the printout into five
> sections and tape them together to form the final picture, which
> was about 5 feet square. It totaled about 9300 line images - far
>
> floppies while I had the chance.
Hmmm... I have a 9-track tape (in an old Exec-8 format -- SDF) that
contains a number of images. The *big* one is a 5-panel wide
portrait of J. S. Bach. (I also have a printed version of it, but haven't
unrolled it for maybe 10-15 years.) It's impressive.
I _should_ think about converting it to a more "modern" media, I
suppose.
--
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University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee source of civilized delight."
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Michael Wojcik
In article <3729d5cb$1$wg$mr2...@news.epix.net>, jt5...@epix.net (Julian Thomas) writes:
> In <7gb0ap$a...@news1.newsguy.com>, on 04/30/99
> at 01:17 AM, michael...@merant.com (Michael Wojcik) said:
>
> > We were working
> >on PC RTs running AOS, essentially a rebadged BSD 4.x Unix, and our
> >machine hostnames were all the names of painters - picasso,
>
> er - wasn't that AIX?
Nope. AIX was the official OS for the RT - AIX 2, that is, up through
2.2.1. AIX 1 was an alternative OS for PS/2 systems, co-developed with
IBM by Interactive Systems and I believe Locus. AOS was a port of BSD
4.2, and later 4.3, for the RT done by IBM ACIS (Academic Computing
Information Services) at the Cambridge Scientific Center (in Massachu-
setts).
AOS stands for "Acadmic Operating System", where "Academic" was meant
either in the sense of "available only to academic institutions" or
"it's an academic question whether it's available at all".
AOS actually had several additions to BSD 4.x, like NFS, plus pretty
much all of the goodies from Project Athena and the Andrew Project.
Most notable was probably AFS, the network filesystem of the gods,
and Kerberos for user authentication (which AFS requires anyway). It
also supported lots of IBM lab hardware that never made it to the
commercial market, though some bits (like the ACIS Experimental
Display, or AED) were distributed through the academic channel.
I clipped the OS banner off the top of the motd in my previous message.
It read:
4.3 BSD UNIX (MWW) #32: Wed Dec 20 18:07:21 EST 1989
IBM Academic Operating System 4.3
5799-WZQ (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1986, 1987, 1988.
All Rights Reserved. Licensed Materials - Property of IBM.
In other words, my customized 4.3 BSD kernel, built 20 December 1989,
as IBM Academic Operating System. (My kernel had device drivers for
our experimental graphics hardware, the "betty board", and the xtrek
hacks.)
AOS lacked some of AIX's nice touches, like on-demand virtual consoles,
but for the most part it was preferable. AIX was highly SysV and
unfriendly. And we didn't have kernel source for it.
See <http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~shadow/ibmrt/faq/> for more
information on AOS and the RT. I think there are still some machines
here and there running it, at places like CMU and MIT.
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Department of English, Miami University
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Tim Shoppa
>
> From article <1462.787T2...@sky.bus.com>, by "Charlie Gibbs" <cgi...@sky.bus.com>:
> >
> > carefully choosing the characters in each cell. My largest picture
> > is one of the moon - you had to separate the printout into five
> > sections and tape them together to form the final picture, which
> > was about 5 feet square. It totaled about 9300 line images - far
> >
> > Fortunately I got the collection off 9-track tape and onto
> > floppies while I had the chance.
>
> Hmmm... I have a 9-track tape (in an old Exec-8 format -- SDF) that
> contains a number of images. The *big* one is a 5-panel wide
> portrait of J. S. Bach. (I also have a printed version of it, but haven't
> unrolled it for maybe 10-15 years.) It's impressive.
>
> I _should_ think about converting it to a more "modern" media, I
> suppose.
9-track is still widely used, and there are many data conversion
companies (including mine) which can convert to "modern" media from
9-track and many much more arcahic formats.
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been written on the deck, not punched into it).
And the "modesty panel" read "Contrary to popular opinion, even IBM
can't do everything!".
Julian Thomas wrote:
snip...
> >>>changing the sense switch settings. the last printout (with
> >>>all clothing "removed") put her behind a modesty panel.
>
> EDIE
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Simon Slavin
Mike Swaim <sw...@gemini.c-com.net> wrote:
> Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879 <jo...@cs.uiowa.edu> wrote:
> : How was it digitized? Beats me. There were two or three nudes in
> : circulation, as well as the Mona Lisa and Alfred E. Newman.
>
> I remember seeing Opus the penguin as well in the early '90s.
If we're going to descend to the level of cartoons I'll just mention
Snoopy calenders. Early 1980s. Type a year into a program (ran on a
DEC-10) and it would generate a Snoopy calender for that year. Each
month's page was decorated with a picture of Snoopy lying on his back
on top of his kennel. The cannonnical version of Snoopy was, of
course, held on paper tape since paper tape could be hidden from any-
one who didn't the computer being used for frivolity.
Simon.
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Danny Lingman
|> On 29 Apr 1999, Neil Franklin wrote:
|>
|> >They have written an library (aalib) that allows this to be done as if
|> >it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
|>
|> Aye. It's well worth the download. There even exist a verion of doom
|> linked against aalib. doom in ascii-art version. Gotta love it.
|>
I tried to visualize what this would look like, and then it clicked - near the
end of the movie "the Matrix", when Neo was able to directly see the flow
of bytes - everything was done in black and green characters...
All we need now is directX drivers for it...
Dan.
jmfb...@aol.com
>
>
>On 1999-04-29 jmfb...@aol.com said:
> :>Of course, none of this would be considered acceptable in today's
> :>environment, but in the 1960s it was so common as to be rather
> :>unremarkable, and a shop that didn't have some "nekkid lady"
> :>artwork was probably the exception.
>
> :Yeah, I think of it as regression. Although, after the nekkid lady
> :was printed, I did ask where was nekkid man with great interest.
> :I got strange looks...for some reason :-))).
>
>I always thought that the logical consequence of women's lib
Grumble...mumble...don't get me started on that subject.
> would be
>that there would be nekkid lady and nekkid man pictures side by side in
>the office... shame it never happened. There's still time. :>
Nope. That was never in the tea leaves of that movement. And I've
got other things to do :-).
/BAH
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Charlie Gibbs
slavins.at.hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) writes:
>If we're going to descend to the level of cartoons I'll just mention
>Snoopy calenders. Early 1980s.
But Snoopy pictures themselves have been around since the late '60s
at least. I never bothered keeping calendars when I snaffled the
pictures - they're too... uhh... dated.
Michael Wojcik
In article <ud80jh...@garlic.com>, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <ly...@garlic.com> writes:
>
> oh yes, AOS trivia
>
> now what was the C-compiler on AOS and why?
Metaware High-C. Somewhere around here I have logs with the version
information (had to download an upgrade at one point during PEX
development, when the front-end choked on some particularly crunchy
script-generated test program source), but I don't think we need to
get that specific.
A decent compiler. I think Metaware mostly does compilers for
embedded systems now.
Michael Wojcik michael...@merant.com
AAI Development, MERANT (block capitals are a company mandate)
Department of English, Miami University
Not the author (with K.Ravichandran and T.Rick Fletcher) of "Mode specific
chemistry of HS + N{_2}O(n,1,0) using stimulated Raman excitation".
Edward Rice
jmfb...@aol.com wrote:
> In article <7g9lov$2...@top.mitre.org>,
> jcmo...@jmorris-pc.MITRE.ORG (Joe Morris) wrote:
> >jmfb...@aol.com writes:
> >
> >>Right. There was a lot of stuff. But it was always the naked
> >>lady that got printed first [broadly grinning emoticon here].
> >>IIRC, the same package also contained software that would
> >>take any ASCII input and print it sideways so that one could
> >>produce a banner for protest marches, etc. Of course, whenever
> >>someone tried to print one for the first time, s/he always
> >>forgot to disengage the carriage control tape on the printer.
> >
> >As someone else has noted, the so-called "ASCII art" master(?)pieces
> >not only predate FTP, they predate the electronic computer by a long
> >time. Back in the 1950s one of the amateur radio magazines (probably
> >_CQ_) would print examples of the Christmas cards that hams had
> >created using their TeleType machines (and I don't think that I ever
> >saw one that used overprinting), but the hams routinely credited
> >the origin of the practice to the pre-WWII teleprinter operators.
>
> Neat.
>
> >
> >One variant of the "nekkid lady" printout that I've not seen mentioned
> >here was the strip-tease. At my PPOE back in the 1960s there was
> >a program that ran on the 1401 (from a tape drive) that allowed the
> >operator to print several picture of a woman on the 1403 printer,
> >removing articles of clothing by changing the sense switch settings.
> >the last printout (with all clothing "removed") put her behind a
> >modesty panel.
You wuz fooled. Sense A on a 1400-series was always up, I forget why.
(Having it down did something oddball to the card reader, I think.)
"Edith" was a little trickier than that.
When you printed the young lady in question, Sense B reduced her dress to a
halter-top and short skirt. Sense C trimmed that back to a very brief
bikini (in the days when that was fairly risque'). If you turned Sense D
on, you got a cutesie picture of the same woman with the above-mentioned
modesty panel, in which was placed the text "Sorry, there are some things
you can't do even with an IBM 1401." (Actually, it was, "SORRY, THERE ARE
SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T DO EVEN WITH AN IBM 1401."
But if you then flipped Sense E on, you got to see her fully nude, with a
small caption at the bottom that said, "See, you really can do anything
with an IBM 1401."
Kirk Is
> it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
> Generally alt.ascii-art is your friend here.
yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing some screenshots of aalib doom.
Surprised the URL for it is so hard to find.
> > it's funny, how despite the prevalance of bitmapped displays, because
> > terminals didn't do overstrike, overstrike may never really return....
> Overstriking does not work on an bitmap video display (or on an laser
> printer) because you cannnot set an black pixel to even blacker!
No, but if you write one character over another one, there's a good chance
a larger percentage of pixels in their overlapping box will be set, making
it "darker" from a distance.
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Peter Kerr
Old art (ASCII) of naked woman,
ASCII art of naked old woman,
naked woman art, old ASCII (7-bit, distinguished from
(naked woman art, new ASCII (8-bit))
--
Peter Kerr bodger
School of Music chandler
University of Auckland New Zealand Unicode heretic
Jan van den Broek
[Snip]
>naked woman art, old ASCII (7-bit, distinguished from
>(naked woman art, new ASCII (8-bit))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does such a thing exist? To my knowledge there is ASCII (7 bits) and there
are several extensionsets.
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jmfb...@aol.com
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgi...@sky.bus.com> wrote:
>In article <B351339B...@0.0.0.0>
>slavins.at.hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) writes:
>
>>If we're going to descend to the level of cartoons I'll just mention
>>Snoopy calenders. Early 1980s.
>
>But Snoopy pictures themselves have been around since the late '60s
>at least. I never bothered keeping calendars when I snaffled the
>pictures - they're too... uhh... dated.
>
Eric Fischer
> p.k...@auckland.ac.nz (Peter Kerr) writes:
>
> >naked woman art, old ASCII (7-bit, distinguished from
> >naked woman art, new ASCII (8-bit))
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Does such a thing exist? To my knowledge there is ASCII (7 bits) and
> there are several extensionsets.
I don't know if this is what the original poster had in mind, but
you could distinguish between "old" ASCII (the original, single-case,
1963 version) and "new" ASCII (the revised standard, with lower case).
Lots of devices continued to use the 1963 version for years after it
was officially considered obsolete.
eric
Dan Strychalski
The original poster probably meant "character graphics" and used the
term "ASCII art" without giving it much thought.
I've been assuming they meant "old graphics" and not old anything else.
For their sake.
Although there have been many versions of seven-bit ASCII, the
differences are small, so it seems reasonable to reserve "old ASCII" (in
the absence of additional qualification) for the six-bit 1963 version.
There seems to be consensus among those who care passionately about
these things that ASCII is and shall forever be seven-of-eight, and
anything that stipulates how the eighth bit should be used requires a
different name.
Dan Strychalski dski at cameonet, cameo, com, tw (no _x_)
Neil Franklin
>
> Neil Franklin (ne...@franklin.ch.remove) wrote:
> > it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
>
> > Generally alt.ascii-art is your friend here.
>
> yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing some screenshots of aalib doom.
> Surprised the URL for it is so hard to find.
AFAIK (I was only told about it) there exists no special version of
Doom itsself. Doom on Linux is dynamically linked against svgalib.
The special thing is an implementation of svgalib over aalib. Use
that with the normal Domm.
I should really try to get a copy of it. OTOH I do not even have Doom,
having started directly with Quake. Should also get that for historys
sense.
> > > it's funny, how despite the prevalance of bitmapped displays, because
> > > terminals didn't do overstrike, overstrike may never really return....
>
> > Overstriking does not work on an bitmap video display (or on an laser
> > printer) because you cannnot set an black pixel to even blacker!
>
> No, but if you write one character over another one, there's a good chance
> a larger percentage of pixels in their overlapping box will be set, making
> it "darker" from a distance.
Hopefully not! If you start with the current graphics context set to
the same pixel you should allways get the same pixels set, if you print
the same character in the same font. Else the graphics subsystem is
not being deterministic and the display will be screwed up real fast.
Note that printers also print overstrike on the same position, just
more pigment gets deposited, reducing its transparency, and so the
amount of white showing through.
Note2 that if you print with the graphics context shifted by 1 pixel
to the right you get an sort of bold print. But this has to be done
deliberately, which is why your program must recognize the use of BS.
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Derek Peschel
Neil Franklin <ne...@franklin.ch.remove> wrote:
>kis...@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kirk Is) writes:
>> No, but if you write one character over another one, there's a good chance
>> a larger percentage of pixels in their overlapping box will be set, making
>> it "darker" from a distance.
>Hopefully not! If you start with the current graphics context set to
>the same pixel you should allways get the same pixels set, if you print
>the same character in the same font. Else the graphics subsystem is
>not being deterministic and the display will be screwed up real fast.
I was wondering why you're confused. Now I see. The second character is a
_different_ character than the first one. Example: < overstruck with >
might be a little darker than X by itself, = overstruck with _ is definitely
darker than = by itself, etc. The point is to create a combination of
characters that produces a slightly different ratio of black-to-white than
sny single character can do. You also may want even distribution of black.
Something like / is not very spread out. But ' ` ; together might have the
same amount of black except spread all around the character cell.
Creating unusual or foreign characters is an extra benefit. Technically,
it's an explicit requirement of some versions of ASCII that punctuation
marks must be able to double as accents when overstruck. But you can do
other things like = / for not equals, etc.
-- Derek
Tom Harrington
: On 29 Apr 1999, Neil Franklin wrote:
: >They have written an library (aalib) that allows this to be done as if
: >it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
: Aye. It's well worth the download. There even exist a verion of doom
: linked against aalib. doom in ascii-art version. Gotta love it.
A while ago in a.f.c. there was discussion of how much the iMac resembles
older text terminals from the 1960s. In honor of this resemblence, there's
a Mac hack called asciiMac, that converts the entire Macintosh display to
color ASCII in real time. Apparently it can handle QuickTime movies, and
you can get an ASCII version of Windoze 95 if you use Virtual PC.
Some photos are available at
<http://meeroh.mit.edu/meeroh/Personal/asciiMacPhotos.html> (some of the
links are broken, but those near the bottom of the page seem to be OK).
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"Charlie Gibbs" <cgi...@sky.bus.com> wrote:
> In article <7g9nra$m7t$6...@ligarius.ultra.net> jmfb...@aol.com
strip some nekkid lady stuff.
> But even then there could be budget toys. The version of the
> strip-tease that I saw was printed on a Univac 1004, which was
> basically a hopped-up electronic version of the IBM 407 accounting
> machine, complete with a 400-cpm reader and an early 400-lpm version
> of Univac's indestructible drum printer. It was programmed by wiring
> a plugboard, but it had a whopping 961 (31x31) 6-bit bytes of core
> (a second core bank was optionally available).
>
> Someone came up with a board called the "emulator", which made
> the 1004 act like a primitive stored-program computer. Later,
> some hardware modifications and a super-duper plug board full
> of transistors turned it into the 1005, which was still slow,
> but at least it was up to 4K of core by then.
>
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>
>
I may have been indulging in to much beer and other substances back in
Cambridge in the late 60's, but I have memories of a 1004 variant hooked up
as an RJE terminal to an 1108. Can anyone verify or refute this admittedly
dim memory.
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>
> I had one of a plane flying by a suspension bridge. It was 8 panels
> wide. You had to have a large section of unused wall to display it.
I, too, had one of these on an otherwise vacant wall of my first
apartment. It was huge.
If I recall correctly (and I'd like to get a copy of the file!) the
image was of a Boeing 727 flying over the San Francisco side of the
Golden Gate Bridge. It also took several minutes to print, even on a
high-speed printer, due to the amount of overprinting involved.
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>
> I may have been indulging in to much beer and other substances back in
> Cambridge in the late 60's, but I have memories of a 1004 variant hooked up
> as an RJE terminal to an 1108. Can anyone verify or refute this admittedly
> dim memory.
It's quite true. I may even have a copy of the wiring instructions for the
plugboard somewhere around here. :-)
Yup... found it! :-)
_UNIVAC 1106/1108 Systems Memorandum Release #10 for teh UNIVAC 1106/1108
Operating Systems_ June 1970. This is for Exec-8 level 25.0.
Appendix C contains the coordinate listing for the compressed remote
1004 plugboard (RMS1).
Appendix F contains the coordinate listings for the DLT-3 plugboard.
We has a 1004 running the RMS1 board. Later, this was replaced
by a UNIVAC 9200 running the REM1 package -- which emulated the
1004.
[This certainly brings back memories. Just what _kind_ of memories,
I'm not saying. :-)]
Brendan Hahn
>Eivind (db9...@oliven.hib.no) wrote:
>: On 29 Apr 1999, Neil Franklin wrote:
>
>: >They have written an library (aalib) that allows this to be done as if
>: >it were a graphics device. And an program that uses it (bbdemo).
>
>: Aye. It's well worth the download. There even exist a verion of doom
>: linked against aalib. doom in ascii-art version. Gotta love it.
>
>A while ago in a.f.c. there was discussion of how much the iMac resembles
>older text terminals from the 1960s. In honor of this resemblence, there's
>a Mac hack called asciiMac, that converts the entire Macintosh display to
>color ASCII in real time.
This was a prizewinner at last year's MacHack. The full project with
source is available at http://web.mit.edu/macdev/asciiMac/. It's pretty
cool--it loads at boot and allows you to hot-key your display in and out of
text mode at any time. It does color and affects everything on the
display, not any particular program. Refresh is a bit sluggish on my
machine at 1024x768, but hey...
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>
> One could say that ASCII art (well..."BCD art" at that time)
> is fine in its place, but it should not be used in a half-ASCII
> fashion.
>
> Joe Morris
>
I know I've mentioned this before, but the Library of Congress in the early
seventies produced something called the half-ASCII tape. Fixed header,
variable trailer records where the header was EBCDIC and the trailers were
ASCII.
It contained catalog card images.
Joe "bitch to convert to non-IBM systems" Yuska
Chuck Maurer
wrote:
>Chuck Maurer wrote:
>>
>> I had one of a plane flying by a suspension bridge. It was 8 panels
>> wide. You had to have a large section of unused wall to display it.
>
> I, too, had one of these on an otherwise vacant wall of my first
>apartment. It was huge.
>
> If I recall correctly (and I'd like to get a copy of the file!) the
>image was of a Boeing 727 flying over the San Francisco side of the
>Golden Gate Bridge. It also took several minutes to print, even on a
>high-speed printer, due to the amount of overprinting involved.
>
I always assumed it was the GGB until my uncle said it was the Oakland Bay
Bridge.
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David Given
"Carl R. Friend" <carl....@stoneweb.com> writes:
> Chuck Maurer wrote:
>>
>> I had one of a plane flying by a suspension bridge. It was 8 panels
>> wide. You had to have a large section of unused wall to display it.
>
> I, too, had one of these on an otherwise vacant wall of my first
> apartment. It was huge.
>
> If I recall correctly (and I'd like to get a copy of the file!) the
> image was of a Boeing 727 flying over the San Francisco side of the
> Golden Gate Bridge. It also took several minutes to print, even on a
> high-speed printer, due to the amount of overprinting involved.
Is the program still around? Or at least, a photo of the result?
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> If I recall correctly (and I'd like to get a copy of the file!) the
> image was of a Boeing 727 flying over the San Francisco side of the
>
I have found a Web site with some ASCII art that might be of interest
to people. The address is http://www.threedee.com/jcm/aaa/index.html
The owner of the site, John Foust, has built up quite a collection of
these pictures and he is in the process of digitising them. He has
quite a number on display. The site is well worth a visit, IMHO.
Dave
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>I may have been indulging in to much beer and other substances back in
>Cambridge in the late 60's, but I have memories of a 1004 variant hooked up
>as an RJE terminal to an 1108. Can anyone verify or refute this admittedly
>dim memory.
>
Chris
cjt&trefoil
Perhaps we also need a thread called "Old naked woman EBCDIC art."
Or better still, "Old EBCDIC art involving young naked women," since
the application of "Old" in the original thread name is ambiguous.
jmfb...@aol.com
I don't know. If you really looked at that art, those females'
skin was pretty wrinkled. :-) I guess it depended on the eye
of the beholder. [now it's a broadly grinning emoticon here]
Derek Peschel
>I don't know. If you really looked at that art, those females'
>skin was pretty wrinkled. :-) I guess it depended on the eye
>of the beholder. [now it's a broadly grinning emoticon here]
Are you sure you're not confusing crinkles in the paper with wrinkles in the
art itself? :)
-- Derek
jmfb...@aol.com
Now there's got to be a really good line about wrinkles vs.
crinkles in ASCII.
Dan Strychalski
/BAH (jmfb...@aol.com) wrote --
> I don't know. If you really looked at that art, those females'
> skin was pretty wrinkled. :-)
But they had... CHARACTER.
> I guess it depended on the eye
> of the beholder. [now it's a broadly grinning emoticon here]
A point can be taken from that. Consider it done.
jmfb...@aol.com
Dan Strychalski <ds...@cameonet.cameo.com.twx> wrote:
>[Somebody stop me, PLEASE....]
>
>/BAH (jmfb...@aol.com) wrote --
>
>> I don't know. If you really looked at that art, those females'
>> skin was pretty wrinkled. :-)
>
>But they had... CHARACTER.
>
>> I guess it depended on the eye
>> of the beholder. [now it's a broadly grinning emoticon here]
>
>A point can be taken from that. Consider it done.
ROTFLMAO. Thanks, I needed that.