Has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?

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gareth evans

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Jul 15, 2022, 7:06:06 AMJul 15
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When I got this laptop 8 years ago, it came with a year's free
subscription to McAfee, and the firewall and virus checking
were useful, so I started paying the annual subscription.

But of late, McAfee has become bloated with more and more
unwelcome and unwanted facilities that it is really getting
on my tits, especially the high level of pop-ups which
suspend and interfere with my typing by taking the focus
away from whatever window I was in.

So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?

John Levine

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Jul 15, 2022, 12:36:06 PMJul 15
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According to gareth evans <headst...@yahoo.com>:
>So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?

Probably. If you're running a reasonably recent version of Windows, the
free anti-virus that Microsoft includes is as good as any of the paid ones.



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Bud Spencer

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Jul 15, 2022, 1:28:20 PMJul 15
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, John Levine wrote:

> According to gareth evans <headst...@yahoo.com>:
>> So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?
>
> Probably. If you're running a reasonably recent version of Windows, the
> free anti-virus that Microsoft includes is as good as any of the paid ones.

Proper solution: don't run windows. Simplex.

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D.J.

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Jul 15, 2022, 1:51:48 PMJul 15
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:36:04 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
<jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>According to gareth evans <headst...@yahoo.com>:
>>So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?
>
>Probably. If you're running a reasonably recent version of Windows, the
>free anti-virus that Microsoft includes is as good as any of the paid ones.

I use pcmatic. It is currently the best.
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Jim

D.J.

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Jul 15, 2022, 1:52:52 PMJul 15
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Several computer forums I'm on have stated that McAfee and others from
years ago should be avoided.
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Jim

Scott Lurndal

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Jul 15, 2022, 2:12:17 PMJul 15
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In forty years of computing, I've only seen "pcmatic" in the TV
commercials. I've never seen it used in real life in business or
for personal installations. It's never discussed in the standard
technical fora for antiviral software. The commercials remind me
of Chevy Chase and his bassamatic.

Quadibloc

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Jul 15, 2022, 3:09:35 PMJul 15
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On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 5:06:06 AM UTC-6, gareth evans wrote:
> So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?

When my parents grew up, they didn't have computers, so computer
viruses weren't one of the thing they thought about to warn their
kids about.

In fact, I was already an adult before computers stopped being
something that filled whole rooms which mere mortals used from
terminals or with punched cards... and became something we
could own ourselves.

And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
was *also* unknown during my childhood.

John Savard

Vir Campestris

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Jul 15, 2022, 4:37:12 PMJul 15
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On 15/07/2022 18:28, Bud Spencer wrote:
> Proper solution: don't run windows. Simplex.

I run Linux, but I remember that Linux (and Mac) viruses do exist.
They're just rare.

Personal hygiene is always the best solution!

Andy

D.J.

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Jul 15, 2022, 5:01:37 PMJul 15
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 18:12:15 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
I heard about it, over a year before the tv commercials.
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John Levine

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Jul 15, 2022, 5:53:53 PMJul 15
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According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
>rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
>was *also* unknown during my childhood.

I suspect people had heard of smallpox and polio by then.

(I'm wondering how much protection the smallpox shot I got in
the 1950s gives me against monkeypox.)

Peter Flass

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Jul 15, 2022, 8:16:43 PMJul 15
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John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>> And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
>> rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
>> was *also* unknown during my childhood.
>
> I suspect people had heard of smallpox and polio by then.
>
> (I'm wondering how much protection the smallpox shot I got in
> the 1950s gives me against monkeypox.)

Monkeypox seems to be shaping up as another covid. First they say “it’s
rare, and hard to get.” Now it seems to be becoming less rare, and a lot
easier to get than originally thought.

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Pete

Dave Garland

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Jul 16, 2022, 12:04:56 AMJul 16
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Still sounds like it requires close physical contact, which is of
course pretty common. Not an STD, but not airborne like covid unless
your faces are very close together.

Dave Garland

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Jul 16, 2022, 12:20:25 AMJul 16
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I've never seen it in use, but Pcmatic has an interesting approach. If
a program isn't whitelisted, it's blocked. Supposedly blocked programs
will be checked within 24 hours, but the PCMag review said that after
3 days most hadn't been. Lot of false positives. I guess once you've
sorted everything out, it's ok so long as you don't make changes.

John's right, Windows Defender is decent if not outstanding, a far cry
from the days when MS "AV" was a joke. McAfee is bloated beyond
usefulness. On my Win machine I used Kaspersky until the current
Russo-paranoia, now a different (and non-USA) AV where the free
version isn't too obnoxious. But I have pretty good hygiene, it's been
ages since anything tripped (and I do visit some disreputable sites).

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Jul 16, 2022, 4:26:18 AMJul 16
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I run (an ancient) firewall; it won't stop my PC getting infected, but
I'll see if/when anything dubious 'phones home'. Not had anything in years
(I hope I haven't just jinxed it!).


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gareth evans

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Jul 16, 2022, 5:44:22 AMJul 16
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Herpes is known as the wounded disease, because it travels the World
on crutches.

Old Brit Navy joke ...

Doctor, I think I've been infected by Hermes.

... I think you mean Herpes.

No, I'm definitely a carrier!


Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 7:44:32 AMJul 16
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On 7/15/22 19:16, Peter Flass wrote:
> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>> And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
>>> rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
>>> was *also* unknown during my childhood.
>>
>> I suspect people had heard of smallpox and polio by then.
>>
>> (I'm wondering how much protection the smallpox shot I got in
>> the 1950s gives me against monkeypox.)

About as much protection as 'Big Bubba' your new cellmate provides when
he says, "Hey, fresh fish, don't you worry! I'll *protect* you!

> Monkeypox seems to be shaping up as another covid. First they say “it’s
> rare, and hard to get.” Now it seems to be becoming less rare, and a lot
> easier to get than originally thought.

Not a single, verifiable isolate of COVID exists. But only extremist
bumpkins would dare question it.

Your lords and masters could invent a new, fictitious 'dreaded gumboo'
virus every week and you slaves would run out to get 52 jabs and 156
boosters every year. And you would call for the heads of everyone who
dares to endanger humanity by refusing all 208 annual shots. Some of you
would demand internment camps for any people who believe 208 jabs per
year is a tad excessive.

There is no virus. It's a scam. The fact you are not talking about the
obvious speaks volumes. Until you actually question the lies you are
being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.

Allow me to redneck it down for you: they are lying to you, and you love
to be lied to and abused. Your civilization has been conquered by a
hostile foreign cabal who hates you and rules by deceit, and you can't
even see it. You're too busy blowing smoke up each others' asses to see
anything.

The modern 'science' of virology and immunology are Roman quack
medicine. It's medieval demonology updated for rubes who consider
themselves more 'sophisticated' than those medieval peasants.

For those who don't know their history, consider this.

The government required masking 100 years ago with the fake Spanish Flu
pandemic. A series of 26 vaccines was forced on hundreds of millions of
people. The vaccines killed 75 million people. A health department
officer shot a man for refusing to wear a mask in one city. Many more
who refused to participate in the religious masking ritual had their
lives and livelihoods destroyed.

The government required masking 200 years ago.

The government required masking 300 years ago, well before the existence
of germs had even been discovered. In the 1720s, the government mandated
quarantines and mask-wearing in Philadelphia, due to a yellow fever
outbreak. The only problem is that yellow fever is a tropical disease
and cannot survive as far north as Philadelphia. It was a made-up, fake
pandemic of a disease that didn't even exist in that region.

The government required quarantines and masking 100 years before that,
and again 100 years before that, and so on. This religious submission
ritual goes back many centuries in the annals of history. It's a boiling
frog exercise in submission to 'authority' that the empire rolls out at
least once every 100 years. The fear and panic it creates in the
populace makes them easy to control and ready to believe any lie spoken
by authority.

You are slaves. And you deserve to be slaves. Kiss the hands that feed
you. Your Roman Catholic masters hate you, because you by your
capitulation to their obvious lies, prove your weakness to them, and
embolden them to push the envelope. Now they are coming openly to fuck
your children in the ass, and training your children in Kindergarten to
submit to anal ass raping with GLBT indoctrination. This is how a
conquering army operates. They rape your women and children as a form of
terror.

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Redneck

Ray Hughes

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Jul 16, 2022, 7:49:02 AMJul 16
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Norton on my one windows machine is exactly the same. more and more
addons that I dont want and fight like blazes every year to cancel the
"Autorenew"

RayH

maus

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Jul 16, 2022, 10:31:13 AMJul 16
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On 2022-07-16, Redneck <sp...@red.neck> wrote:
> On 7/15/22 19:16, Peter Flass wrote:
>> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>>> And, on the other hand, syphillis and gonhorrea are both bacterial
>>>> rather than viral diseases. The Human Immunodeficiency Virus
>>>> was *also* unknown during my childhood.
>>>
>>> I suspect people had heard of smallpox and polio by then.
>>>
>>> (I'm wondering how much protection the smallpox shot I got in
>>> the 1950s gives me against monkeypox.)
>
> About as much protection as 'Big Bubba' your new cellmate provides when
> he says, "Hey, fresh fish, don't you worry! I'll *protect* you!
>
>> Monkeypox seems to be shaping up as another covid. First they say “it’s
>> rare, and hard to get.” Now it seems to be becoming less rare, and a lot
>> easier to get than originally thought.
>
> Not a single, verifiable isolate of COVID exists. But only extremist
> bumpkins would dare question it.
>

> You are slaves. And you deserve to be slaves. Kiss the hands that feed
> you. Your Roman Catholic masters hate you, because you by your
> capitulation to their obvious lies, prove your weakness to them, and
> embolden them to push the envelope. Now they are coming openly to fuck
> your children in the ass, and training your children in Kindergarten to
> submit to anal ass raping with GLBT indoctrination. This is how a
> conquering army operates. They rape your women and children as a form of
> terror.
>
> --
>
> Redneck

The spanish flu existed. I remember people talking about it, the whole
world suffered from it.


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D.J.

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:12:35 AMJul 16
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PcMatic can be set to 'ask me' for any program previously not
installed/used. I set it that way.

It did tend to change back to 'always block', but that has been fixed.
I have it set in its menus to ask me.
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Jim

D.J.

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:15:08 AMJul 16
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You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid
.
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Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:23:31 AMJul 16
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On 7/16/22 09:31, maus wrote:
> The spanish flu existed. I remember people talking about it, the whole
> world suffered from it.

Of course. The whole world once suffered from the curses of Moloch on
their harvest, and the curses of Moloch that caused disease, until they
followed the science and sacrificed their children in bonfires to
Moloch. Many lives were saved from the wrath of Moloch with 'booster
burnings' to ensure future immunity. I remember, it was real.

Pull your head out of your grundle. The plandemic is fake and you are a
dupe. You are lining your children up to be injected with poison because
of your peasant superstitions about invisible germs.

You hate your children. You especially hate other people's children. But
you love Moloch's medical priests, and you will talk about the 'safety
of children' as you sell them into slavery.

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Redneck

Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:26:19 AMJul 16
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On 7/16/22 10:15, D.J. wrote:
>> There is no virus. It's a scam. The fact you are not talking about the
>> obvious speaks volumes. Until you actually question the lies you are
>> being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
>> medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.
> You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid

You are a sucker, suck-up, and useful idiot.

The dead who died from the plandemic died from intubation, medical
neglect, and dangerous experimental vaccines.

You helped murder those people with your support of the big lie. You are
a murderer!

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Redneck

maus

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:45:24 AMJul 16
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On 2022-07-16, D.J <chuckt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:45:02 -0500, Redneck <sp...@red.neck> wrote:
>>On 7/15/22 19:16, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
>>medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.
>
> You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid
> .
> --
> Jim

Ignore the troll, I was tempted, Lord, and succumed.

Dan Espen

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Jul 16, 2022, 11:50:08 AMJul 16
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maus <ma...@dmaus.org> writes:

> On 2022-07-16, D.J <chuckt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:45:02 -0500, Redneck <sp...@red.neck> wrote:
>>>On 7/15/22 19:16, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>>being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
>>>medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.
>>
>> You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid
>> .
>> --
>> Jim
>
> Ignore the troll, I was tempted, Lord, and succumed.

Yep. Another one too stupid to even try to reason with.

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Dan Espen

D.J.

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Jul 16, 2022, 12:04:05 PMJul 16
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Aw, the crazy man is trying to lecture on on how stupid he is.
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Jim

D.J.

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Jul 16, 2022, 12:05:26 PMJul 16
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:50:03 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com>
wrote:
If that fools misinformation causes one death, they should be charged
with murder. Their posts are too literate to be that dumb.
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Jim

Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:05:24 -0500
D.J. <chuckt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If that fools misinformation causes one death, they should be charged
> with murder. Their posts are too literate to be that dumb.

Only a troll would post as "Redneck".

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Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 1:24:41 PMJul 16
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"For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil."

Here the medical cultist is medicalizing dissent, showing his true colors.

You are a murderer, Jim. You support the imperialist lies that have
killed and maimed countless people. Your civilization has been conquered
by a religious cult of liars who have captured all the licensed
professions. You are a conquered people.

You support a medical experiment on billions of people, and have the
pluck to call me 'crazy' and 'stupid.' Your arrogance is astounding.

-- Redneck

Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 1:25:50 PMJul 16
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You expose yourself once again as a murderer. You want to shed the
innocent blood of those who warn about danger.

You would be better off preferring murder charges for all the medicos
who murdered millions of people with the vax poison.

And you expose yourself by noting the literacy of my speech.

You are obstinate, self-willed, and delusional.

The virus is fake.

The jab kills.

Before COVID, iatrogenic deaths were 10x higher than deaths from
automobile accidents. After COVID iatrogenic killings have skyrocketed.

--

Redneck

D.J.

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Jul 16, 2022, 1:36:06 PMJul 16
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:25:14 -0500, Redneck <nos...@red.neck> wrote:
>On 7/16/22 11:04, D.J. wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 10:27:01 -0500, Redneck <nos...@red.neck> wrote:
>>> On 7/16/22 10:15, D.J. wrote:
>>>>> There is no virus. It's a scam. The fact you are not talking about the
>>>>> obvious speaks volumes. Until you actually question the lies you are
>>>>> being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
>>>>> medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.
>>>> You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid
>>>
>>> You are a sucker, suck-up, and useful idiot.
>>>
>>> The dead who died from the plandemic died from intubation, medical
>>> neglect, and dangerous experimental vaccines.
>>>
>>> You helped murder those people with your support of the big lie. You are
>>> a murderer!
>>
>> Aw, the crazy man is trying to lecture on on how stupid he is.
>> --
>> Jim
>
>"For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil."
>
>Here the medical cultist is medicalizing dissent, showing his true colors.

You smell of bat crap crazy. Bye bye fool.
--
Jim

Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 1:49:40 PMJul 16
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On 7/16/22 11:38, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:05:24 -0500
> D.J. <chuckt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If that fools misinformation causes one death, they should be charged
>> with murder. Their posts are too literate to be that dumb.
>
> Only a troll would post as "Redneck".
>

The problem with your drivel is that your statement is the "No True
Scotsman" fallacy. It is a variation of the "ad hominem" fallacy.

Surely, no true Scotsman would call himself "Redneck" so everything else
he says cannot be true.

What a simpleton argument!

Using your logic what kind of Scotsman calls himself, "Ahem A Rivet's Shot?"

Have you heard about throwing stones in glass houses?

COVID is a hoax. The vax kills people. Masking does nothing to protect
from viruses. The U.S. regime has killed more people than Genghis Khan.
The liberalist USA regime is the most genocidal regime in world history.
It makes Hitler and Stalin look like amateurs. Their propaganda is so
good that nobody ever talks about the USA regime body count.

These man-slayers killed over 600 thousand in Iraq alone. Multiply that
by the dozens of aggressive wars they have waged in 200 years to 'spread
democracy.'

Since its founding the USA regime as murdered over 300 million people
not counting Africans, Central and South Americans forced into
starvation and butchery from CIA backed coups and revolutions, and you
trust them when they say they want to protect you from the common cold
with an experimental vaccine?

Who is really the troll here?

--

Redneck

Redneck

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Jul 16, 2022, 2:16:16 PMJul 16
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On 7/16/22 12:36, D.J. wrote:
> You smell of bat crap crazy. Bye bye fool.

"He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander,
is a fool."

You smell of stinkin' thinkin'.

Run back to your delusions, wrap yourself in a flag, imprison and kill
all the anti-vaxers, and pretend you are safe there. Until they mandate
something even a slave like you can't bear to abide, then it's your turn
to be called a fool.

You're really just an effeminate coward who has decided to side with
those you perceive as winning. Until it all comes crashing down.

What did the Bolsheviks do to all the useful idiots who helped them
seize power?

You'll have to visit their mass graves to ask. Useful idiots and
sympathizers are loose ends, after all. And loose ends get tied up once
the revolution is complete.

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Redneck

Peter Flass

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Jul 16, 2022, 7:52:14 PMJul 16
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My mother had memories of it, although she was pretty young then.




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Peter Flass

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Jul 16, 2022, 7:52:17 PMJul 16
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Ooookayyyyy, please put your tinfoil hat back on now.


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Pete

J. Clarke

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Jul 17, 2022, 11:45:31 AMJul 17
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:36:04 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
<jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

>According to gareth evans <headst...@yahoo.com>:
>>So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?
>
>Probably. If you're running a reasonably recent version of Windows, the
>free anti-virus that Microsoft includes is as good as any of the paid ones.

Our problems with malware started when some scam artist figured out
that he could get paid 50 bucks a shot for malware if he called it
"antivirus".

J. Clarke

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Jul 17, 2022, 11:49:39 AMJul 17
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:52:49 -0500, D.J. <chuckt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 12:06:02 +0100, gareth evans
><headst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>When I got this laptop 8 years ago, it came with a year's free
>>subscription to McAfee, and the firewall and virus checking
>>were useful, so I started paying the annual subscription.
>>
>>But of late, McAfee has become bloated with more and more
>>unwelcome and unwanted facilities that it is really getting
>>on my tits, especially the high level of pop-ups which
>>suspend and interfere with my typing by taking the focus
>>away from whatever window I was in.
>>
>>So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?
>
>Several computer forums I'm on have stated that McAfee and others from
>years ago should be avoided.

Given that McAfee offed himself in a Spanish prison while awaiting
extradition to the US where he was to be tried for tax evasion, that
he claims never to have used his own product, and that the government
was out to get him, I think that that is a wise choice.

J. Clarke

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Jul 17, 2022, 11:56:37 AMJul 17
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:05:24 -0500, D.J. <chuckt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 11:50:03 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>maus <ma...@dmaus.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 2022-07-16, D.J <chuckt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:45:02 -0500, Redneck <sp...@red.neck> wrote:
>>>>>On 7/15/22 19:16, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>> John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> According to Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>:
>>>>>being spoonfed, I know you are arrogant stooges, and you deserve the
>>>>>medical and political abuse you so slavishly allow.
>>>>
>>>> You are the liar. Over 1 million dead just in the US from covid
>>>> .
>>>> --
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Ignore the troll, I was tempted, Lord, and succumed.
>>
>>Yep. Another one too stupid to even try to reason with.
>
>If that fools misinformation causes one death, they should be charged
>with murder. Their posts are too literate to be that dumb.

So some loon posts lunacy and some idiot listens and gets dead for his
trouble and the loon posting lunacy is a murderer? Sorry, we are all
responsible for our own decisions, including the idiot who got dead. I
realize that a major thrust of modern liberalism is to protect us from
our own poor judgment and to find someone to blame for our own poor
judgment--this is one of the reasons that they are having trouble
getting votes from anybody who doesn't live a sheltered life in some
big huge city.

Charlie Gibbs

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Jul 17, 2022, 12:45:33 PMJul 17
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Was his name Bill Gates? <g,d&r>

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Dan Espen

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Jul 17, 2022, 1:49:24 PMJul 17
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Oh, that evil liberalism. Next it will be spreading lies about the
pandemic. Oh wait, that act is already taken.

Your politics is stupid and boring.

I guess we can see there are a lot of idiots in this world. It's good we
don't have to do anything to protect them.


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Dan Espen

Jim Jackson

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Jul 17, 2022, 2:15:30 PMJul 17
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Is education so BAD in the USA that such idiots get through?

**Plonk**

Dan Espen

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Jul 17, 2022, 2:55:33 PMJul 17
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Education is pretty bad, but this is the culture in action.
Specifically, Fox news viewers.

Basically, people are the same everywhere but when you encourage idiots
bad things happen.

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Divine Hate Crime

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Jul 17, 2022, 3:25:06 PMJul 17
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On 7/17/22 10:56, J. Clarke wrote:
> I
> realize that a major thrust of modern liberalism is to protect us from
> our own poor judgment and to find someone to blame for our own poor
> judgment--this is one of the reasons that they are having trouble
> getting votes from anybody who doesn't live a sheltered life in some
> big huge city.

The problem is that 'liberals' have the poorest judgment of all. They
are not on some pedestal meting out 'wisdom' and 'prudence' to the rest
of us. They are sewer rats with no moral ground to stand on. They don't
mean anyone well and they are not trying to protect anyone. They are
trying to destroy every obstacle to their gain and greed. The recent
COVID nonsense is just a pretext for the exercise of unalawful and
unconstitutional power. Everything these liars do and say is a subterfuge.

The slaying of innocent babies in the womb is their religious sacrament.
That is engraved in the stone of history for all to behold, forever.
They will never be able to walk that back or put that genie back in the
bottle. We still remember the ancient Democrats who sacrificed babies to
Moloch, after three millenia. We'll remember the modern Democrats child
sacrifice through abortion even longer.

Abortion is their religious sacrament, similar to how burning a bloody
picture of Mary is a Mafia sacrament, similar to how beating up or
killing a victim is a gangster sacrament. Once you cross that line, you
show you have your cred to be part of the criminal gang. This is why
abortion is so important to lunatic leftists. It proves to the gang that
you are loyal to them, and every criminal enterprise needs that show of
loyalty to feed the delusion that they will continue to evade justice.

Liberals are not trying to 'protect' us from ourselves. They are trying
to gaslight us into submission to their religion. They don't demand that
you tolerate their sexual and prenatal abuse of children. They demand
that you celebrate it and participate in it, or else. They protect you
the same way a mob boss or Stalinist 'protects' you.

All liberals are murderers. They gather together to promote laws,
policies, and culture that strangle the life out of anyone who will not
climb down into the sewer with them. That is murder. It is genocide. You
don't have to be the trigger man to be guilty of genocide. You just have
to give support to the trigger man who is doing the dirty work for you.

Every liberal seeks to profit from the destruction of those who don't
want to be enslaved to their notions of 'democracy' which is really just
a religious caste system with worship of the state as the central deity.
Most conservatives are effeminate subs submitting to the liberal doms,
in worship of the same state. They're all evil cultists and slavers.

The countless effeminate sell-outs in academia who have lived by the
sword through government funding, will defend these 'democratic' slave
rackets to their last breath. These people produce nothing and devour
everything. They are incapable of running a business, or a farm, or a
factory, laying a foundation, building a cattle fence, raising a barn,
etc. So they get on the government dole and take cash for indoctrinating
the youth to be faithful to the empire and its false gods. Their
incompetence is celebrated, so they will stay loyal to the empire and
keep raising up generations of indoctrinated slaves.

These people will never admit to their evil ways. They want to slander,
belittle, harass, annoy, silence, and destroy anyone who calls attention
to their crimes. They reject the forgiveness that God offers through
Jesus. All it takes is for a man to admit to Jesus that his own manmade
ideas are wrong, and a man can be transformed from his wicked ways into
a life of truth. But as the scripture says, they reject the light
because the light exposes their evil deeds.

The word 'sinner' means 'criminal.' The greatest hate crime in world
history was when the Jews and Romans murdered Jesus Christ on the cross.
The liberal elite are mostly Romans (Catholic) and Jews, who like their
ancestors continue to hate and slander the very creator that gave them
existence. Their rebellion against Him is a crime, or 'sin.'

Bloody and war-mongering western 'civilization' is ruled by these bloody
scavengers. They desire to destroy anyone who points out these truths.
Many useful idiots parrot their slanders and accusations, thinking this
will keep them in the good graces of their masters.

We've seen this play out many times in history.

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Divine Hate Crime

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Jul 17, 2022, 3:31:09 PMJul 17
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On 7/17/22 14:25, Divine Hate Crime wrote:
> We've seen this play out many times in history.

Edit: We've seen this play out many times in history. None remain long
in the good graces of tyrants.

Bud Spencer

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Jul 17, 2022, 3:48:13 PMJul 17
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2022, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2022-07-17, J Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:36:04 -0000 (UTC), John Levine
>> <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> According to gareth evans <headst...@yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>>> So, has McAfee itself become the virus our parents warned us against?
>>>
>>> Probably. If you're running a reasonably recent version of Windows, the
>>> free anti-virus that Microsoft includes is as good as any of the paid ones.
>>
>> Our problems with malware started when some scam artist figured out
>> that he could get paid 50 bucks a shot for malware if he called it
>> "antivirus".
>
> Was his name Bill Gates? <g,d&r>

The very same who is now "saving" you with his "covid vaccine" ... makes
you think ... or not.

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Vir Campestris

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Jul 17, 2022, 3:59:09 PMJul 17
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On 16/07/2022 15:31, maus wrote:
> The spanish flu existed. I remember people talking about it, the whole
> world suffered from it.

This clown thinks viruses are "Roman quack medicine".

I've seen electron micrographs of viruses prepared by people I trust
with equipment I've touched.

I don't know what education he has, or what he's trying to do, but
people like him are responsible for many deaths. Far more than those
who've suffered from the vaccines.

Andy

Doublethink

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Jul 17, 2022, 5:42:05 PMJul 17
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You think it was a 'virus' that you were looking at. I've seen countless
electron microscope scans of the 'virus' and they're bunk. Anyone can
take a scan of sputum and call it 'virus' or 'Bullwinkle' or whatever
they want to call it. The identification of the 'pathogen' is based on
circular reasoning, not on Koch's postulates. Sorry to break it to you,
but you've been duped.

The most sophisticated methods in serology require highly holy and
special equipment that only the initiated can operate or
understand--like peepstones, magic wands, sacred bones, and talismans.
The religious ritual of the face mask also goes back ages, and was long
common among witch doctors, shamans, and pagans as a signal of
submission to their gods or spirits, to ward off sickness thought to be
caused by demons. Not all witch doctors and shamans were intentionally
committing fraud. Many of them believed their own nonsense. This
delusional belief breeds confidence that is convincing to the ignorant,
and revolting to those of us possessing true wisdom.

Scans of imaginary viruses are just an updated version of this. Many
scammers believe in their own scam. They have to because they have so
much invested in it. The delusion multiplies like a virus.

The CEO of Theranos is a perfect example of this insanity. She was not
an exception to the rule. She is the rule in the medical science field.
She just ripped off the wrong people, who happened to be prominent
politicians. If she hadn't ripped off the wrong people you'd be hearing
about her magical medical diagnosis machine and reading its praises to
this day.

When the human body is exposed to certain stressors, such as a new form
of electromagnetic radiation (Terrestrial Radio in 1920 & 5G in 2020),
the cells produce exosomes to adapt to the new stressor. When these
exosomes are expelled, the medical mafia declares them as 'contagious
viruses' and sells billions in vaccines to 'fight the virus.' The
promoters of the snake oil have great incentive to believe their own
delusions about their product and its necessity. In reality the stressor
that induces the exosome expulsion is not even considered by the medical
'scientists' as they jump straight into production.

But the 'virus' was created by the stress response, not by an invasion
of the immune system.

This once was common knowledge until some very rich and powerful people
realized they could have a guaranteed annual income of billions in
perpetuity by selling the witch's brew called 'vaccine.'

Before Jonas Salk came along, the practice of vaccines (which dates back
to the dawn of western civilization) was considered witchcraft. It was
right up there with head shrinking and trepanation of the skull.

Like the scripture says: "I will send among them a strong delusion ..."

And it also says: "Come out of her my people ... that ye receive not of
her plagues ..." I came out of the darkness into the light well before
the plandemic, so I saw her plague coming before she manufactured it.

And the scripture also says:

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane
and vain babblings, and oppositions of *science* falsely so called:
Which some professing have erred concerning the faith." (1 Timothy 6:20)

Mankind is corrupted by self-serving delusions that make him cock-sure
that his idiotic superstitions are 'science' or 'truth.' The goblins
can't get away with stake burnings today, so they settle for economic
assassination to silence dissent and keep the herd in line with the cult.

As for your final paragraph:

Doublethink - Wikipedia
Doublethink is a process of indoctrination in which subjects are
expected to simultaneously accept two conflicting beliefs as truth,
often at odds with their own memory or sense of reality. Doublethink is
related to, but differs from, hypocrisy. George Orwell coined the term
doublethink (as part of the fictional language of Newspeak) in his 1949
dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

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Shell Prompt

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Jul 18, 2022, 10:44:10 AMJul 18
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:25:14 -0500, in <taus8m$3fhns$1...@news.mixmin.net>,
I see one of Putin's pleasure players has come to visit.

(Russian trolls are capitalizing on the polarization in America with
their disinformation campaigns.)

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Quadibloc

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Jul 18, 2022, 11:28:25 AMJul 18
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On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 5:44:32 AM UTC-6, Redneck wrote:

> There is no virus. It's a scam.

You present zero evidence of that. Historical mistakes in
reacting to disease do not invalidate current medical
science.
Your assertiions, based on no evidence, only political
paranoia, do not outweigh information from credible sources
when people face a potential threat to their lives.

John Savard