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Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Dec 15, 2022, 3:00:02 PM12/15/22
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Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings for
cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade* regularly
at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few places almost
gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be found and some
places have been sprinkled with snow.

Orange is the new winter.

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gareth evans

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Dec 15, 2022, 3:21:03 PM12/15/22
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On 15/12/2022 19:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings for
> cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade* regularly
> at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few places almost
> gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be found and some
> places have been sprinkled with snow.
>
> Orange is the new winter.
>

Yellow or orange, don't eat the snow of that colour!!!!!

Alfred Falk

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Dec 15, 2022, 5:45:48 PM12/15/22
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote in
news:20221215194846.2402...@eircom.net:

> Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings
> for
> cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade*
> regularly at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few
> places almost gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be
> found and some places have been sprinkled with snow.
>
> Orange is the new winter.

Hah! weather warnings are, of course, relative to local "normals".
Here on the Canadian prairie at exactly the same latitude as Dublin we have
been enjoying a _warm_ spell of -5 C. That will be a pleasant memory in a
few days when forecast highs call for -25 C highs and -30 lows. (That's
around -15 F for those using the lesser degree.)

And the world has been white for six weeks. However, that does not preclude
rain at New Year's, because anything goes in continental climates.

John Levine

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Dec 15, 2022, 9:56:26 PM12/15/22
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According to Alfred Falk <aef...@telus.net>:
>Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote in
>news:20221215194846.2402...@eircom.net:
>
>> Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings
>> for
>> cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade*
>> regularly at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few
>> places almost gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be
>> found and some places have been sprinkled with snow.
>>
>> Orange is the new winter.
>
>Hah! weather warnings are, of course, relative to local "normals".
>Here on the Canadian prairie at exactly the same latitude as Dublin we have
>been enjoying a _warm_ spell of -5 C. ...

A few years ago in Vancouver BC I saw a severe weather warning that
temperatures would plunge below 0 C, and snow might drift 1 to 2 cm.
People were annoyed because they couldn't wear their sandals.

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Bob Eager

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Dec 16, 2022, 4:58:38 AM12/16/22
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 02:56:23 +0000, John Levine wrote:

> A few years ago in Vancouver BC I saw a severe weather warning that
> temperatures would plunge below 0 C, and snow might drift 1 to 2 cm.
> People were annoyed because they couldn't wear their sandals.

Many years ago I visited Vancouver in January (partly work, also
relatives). It was around -8 fdor a good part of my time there, with snow.

I came back and moaned to my wife. She had also had snow, and -18 (in the
UK).



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Mike Spencer

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Dec 16, 2022, 2:26:44 PM12/16/22
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John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> writes:

> A few years ago in Vancouver BC I saw a severe weather warning that
> temperatures would plunge below 0 C, and snow might drift 1 to 2 cm.
> People were annoyed because they couldn't wear their sandals.

It's subjective, innit? I used to live where there were regularly
weeks in January when nights were -20F and days never got above 0F.
But a friend moved there upon retirement mainly to get to the milder
winter weather. He had spent ca. 30 years just outside of Fairbanks,
Alaska.

Winters are plenty chilly enough where I've now been for 50 years but
we've never seen a night at -20F or a whole week below 0F in that
time. Four feet of snow in three weeks, yes, bit not the cold.


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Charlie Gibbs

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Dec 16, 2022, 2:33:19 PM12/16/22
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On 2022-12-16, Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 02:56:23 +0000, John Levine wrote:
>
>> A few years ago in Vancouver BC I saw a severe weather warning that
>> temperatures would plunge below 0 C, and snow might drift 1 to 2 cm.
>> People were annoyed because they couldn't wear their sandals.
>
> Many years ago I visited Vancouver in January (partly work, also
> relatives). It was around -8 fdor a good part of my time there, with snow.
>
> I came back and moaned to my wife. She had also had snow, and -18 (in the
> UK).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vmMz73F5uA

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johnson

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Dec 16, 2022, 3:15:42 PM12/16/22
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On 2022-12-15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
> Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings for
> cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade* regularly
> at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few places almost
> gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be found and some
> places have been sprinkled with snow.
>

°C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now.
Our 'dear' BBC, which still hasn't got the hang of the 'new 24-hour clock'
still frequently refers to 'centigrade'.

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Dec 16, 2022, 3:30:32 PM12/16/22
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They'll have to get used to the Pound Note^Coin having a King's Head on
it.

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John Levine

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Dec 16, 2022, 4:17:55 PM12/16/22
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According to johnson <ro...@example.net>:
>°C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now.
>Our 'dear' BBC, which still hasn't got the hang of the 'new 24-hour clock'
>still frequently refers to 'centigrade'.

But Celsius is named after Anders Celsius, who was Swedish.

Surely you're aware that the goal of Brexit is to free the UK from stifling European regulations.

Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Dec 16, 2022, 4:30:02 PM12/16/22
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:15:39 GMT
johnson <ro...@example.net> wrote:

> On 2022-12-15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
> > Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather warnings
> > for cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5 *centigrade*
> > regularly at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing and in a few
> > places almost gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can sometimes be
> > found and some places have been sprinkled with snow.
> >
>
> °C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now.

I tend to consider the two terms interchangeable - but then I still
consider the yellow stuff with all the allotropes to be sulphur.

Anne & Lynn Wheeler

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Dec 16, 2022, 5:01:05 PM12/16/22
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Mike Spencer <m...@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
> It's subjective, innit? I used to live where there were regularly
> weeks in January when nights were -20F and days never got above 0F.
> But a friend moved there upon retirement mainly to get to the milder
> winter weather. He had spent ca. 30 years just outside of Fairbanks,
> Alaska.
>
> Winters are plenty chilly enough where I've now been for 50 years but
> we've never seen a night at -20F or a whole week below 0F in that
> time. Four feet of snow in three weeks, yes, bit not the cold.

one week at the univ. ... highs were -27F and one night had record low
for CONUS of -55F (tried to verify claim about throwing cold water into
the air that it would freeze before it hit the snow, couldn't tell for
sure) ... still had to walk to classes.

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Dennis Boone

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Dec 16, 2022, 5:19:32 PM12/16/22
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> one week at the univ. ... highs were -27F and one night had record low
> for CONUS of -55F (tried to verify claim about throwing cold water into
> the air that it would freeze before it hit the snow, couldn't tell for
> sure) ... still had to walk to classes.

Our weather guy says you have to use _hot_ water.

De

Peter Flass

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Dec 16, 2022, 5:21:44 PM12/16/22
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Centigrade makes more sense in describing a scale with a range of 100°.
Otherwise you could just as easily call it the “Floopsie Scale.”

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Peter Flass

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Dec 16, 2022, 5:21:44 PM12/16/22
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We had days of -25 (Farenheit) in upstate NY. I had to fetch wood from the
woodpile to heat the house.

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Bob Eager

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Dec 16, 2022, 6:24:54 PM12/16/22
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 21:17:52 +0000, John Levine wrote:

> According to johnson <ro...@example.net>:
>>°C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now.
>>Our 'dear' BBC, which still hasn't got the hang of the 'new 24-hour
>>clock'
>>still frequently refers to 'centigrade'.
>
> But Celsius is named after Anders Celsius, who was Swedish.
>
> Surely you're aware that the goal of Brexit is to free the UK from
> stifling European regulations.

Indeed. And the BBC is the tool of the Brexity government.

John Levine

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Dec 16, 2022, 9:55:08 PM12/16/22
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According to Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com>:
>> °C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now. ...

>Centigrade makes more sense in describing a scale with a range of 100°.
>Otherwise you could just as easily call it the “Floopsie Scale.”

I suppose you could if Betsy Floopsie had invented it, but as best I
know she didn't.

Charles Richmond

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Dec 17, 2022, 4:05:20 AM12/17/22
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What do you call that stinky stuff named mercaptan???

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Charles Richmond

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Dec 17, 2022, 4:10:23 AM12/17/22
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I though most houses in upstate NY had covered wood boxes built on the
side... with a little access door on the house side that opened into the
basement. That way wood could be taken out from inside the basement,
and you did *not* have to brave the freezing weather...

Ahem A Rivet's Shot

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Dec 17, 2022, 6:00:08 AM12/17/22
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On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 03:05:18 -0600
Charles Richmond <code...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> On 12/16/2022 3:22 PM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:15:39 GMT
> > johnson <ro...@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-12-15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote:
> >>> Here in Ireland we're in the grips of "Orange" weather
> >>> warnings for cold and ice because it's getting down to around -5
> >>> *centigrade* regularly at night, sometimes doesn't get above freezing
> >>> and in a few places almost gets down to -10 - oh yes freezing fog can
> >>> sometimes be found and some places have been sprinkled with snow.
> >>>
> >>
> >> °C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now.
> >
> > I tend to consider the two terms interchangeable - but then I
> > still consider the yellow stuff with all the allotropes to be sulphur.
> >
>
> What do you call that stinky stuff named mercaptan???

Erm mercaptan of course, usually prefixed with butyl (skunk) or
ethyl (worse).

Douglas Miller

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Dec 17, 2022, 6:45:21 AM12/17/22
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And, of course, in my part of the world that sort of weather is called "orange" only as a warning to avoid wearing a heavy coat and risking heat stroke! Looking forward to a -15 F night with ~30 MPH winds next week here, which is not unusual when heading into January.

Oh, and "Z80", just to keep the topic related.

Peter Flass

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Dec 17, 2022, 7:51:27 AM12/17/22
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Maybe up in the Adirondacks. We were in the foothills, and had a new house.

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Charlie Gibbs

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Dec 17, 2022, 3:31:40 PM12/17/22
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On 2022-12-17, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:

> According to Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com>:
>
>>> °C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now. ...
>>
>> Centigrade makes more sense in describing a scale with a range of 100°.
>> Otherwise you could just as easily call it the “Floopsie Scale.”
>
> I suppose you could if Betsy Floopsie had invented it, but as best I
> know she didn't.

On the other tentacle, the Réaumur scale was invented by someone
of the same name. But the freezing and boiling points of water
are 0 and 80 on that scale, though.

Now you've listened to my story
Here's the point that I have made
Checks were born to give you fever
Be it Fahrenheit or Centigrade
-- Peggy Lee

Mike Spencer

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Dec 17, 2022, 11:06:54 PM12/17/22
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"Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1> writes:

> They'll have to get used to the Pound Note^Coin having a King's Head on
> it.

ObComputers: Yet another moderny tech bummer for the printing
business. All those QCs just need to change a few files rather than
reprint all their letterheads and stationary with KC.

johnson

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Dec 18, 2022, 5:43:28 AM12/18/22
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On 2022-12-17, Charlie Gibbs <cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2022-12-17, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>
>> According to Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>>> °C have been called *Celsius* for a considerable time now. ...
>>>
>>> Centigrade makes more sense in describing a scale with a range of 100°.
>>> Otherwise you could just as easily call it the “Floopsie Scale.”
>>
>> I suppose you could if Betsy Floopsie had invented it, but as best I
>> know she didn't.
>
> On the other tentacle, the Réaumur scale was invented by someone
> of the same name. But the freezing and boiling points of water
> are 0 and 80 on that scale, though.
>

The Rømer scale (0°C=7.5°Rø, 100°C=60°Rø) was the inspiration for
Fahrenheit's scale.
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