In an example of the media supplying a UL-created demand, the Princeton
Review has released a top/bottom ten party school list.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-Party-Schools-List.html
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-Party-Schools.html
I frankly remember Wellesley as being a lot more fun than all that, but
perhaps that's nostalgia on the eve of my 30th birthday. Or maybe I'm
confusing it with Smith.
Apparently, this is something the Princeton Review (no association with
Princeton University) has been doing for a couple of years now.
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One of my guidance counselors warned my parents that I shouldn't apply
to RPI because "it's one of Playboy's top ten party schools". In 1967.
Andrew
There actually was, way back when, a Playboy article about party
schools, and if I recallc orrectly it included a ranking. A lot of
these questions could be resolved if someone could find that issue.
And RPI was a helluva party school when I was attending mid-1950s.
I recall stake trucks with kegs pulling up in front of the dorms
during campus election week. We simply dumped out our small
wastebaskets, rinsed them out in the john, then took them outside
and had them filled with beer.
The beer, unfortunately, was Fitzgerald, from a Troy brewery, which
was perhaps the worst beer I have ever tasted. But what the hell,
it was free.
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The story when I was at RPI (late 80's - early 90's) was that RPI had been
at #1 on the list for several years, then, suddenly, wasn't on the list.
There was a note to the effect of "Yes, RPI isn't on the list; the list
is for amateur partiers only. They're professionals at RPI."
I have heard this about other schools as well, though, so my UL-o-meter
started going off at that point - I don't recall if AFU had been created
yet, but I heard this right around 1989-1990.
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> "Andrew W. Rogers" <rog...@hi.com> writes:
> >Ted Frank wrote:
> >> A long-debunked UL regarding colleges is that "College [x] was named
> >> by [Playboy or, even more improbably, David Letterman] as being in the
> >> [top, bottom] ten [party schools, prettiest coeds, active sex lives]."
> >One of my guidance counselors warned my parents that I shouldn't apply
> >to RPI because "it's one of Playboy's top ten party schools". In 1967.
>
> The story when I was at RPI (late 80's - early 90's) was that RPI had been
> at #1 on the list for several years, then, suddenly, wasn't on the list.
> There was a note to the effect of "Yes, RPI isn't on the list; the list
> is for amateur partiers only. They're professionals at RPI."
>
> I have heard this about other schools as well, though, so my UL-o-meter
> started going off at that point - I don't recall if AFU had been created
> yet, but I heard this right around 1989-1990.
Tee-hee. I remember hearing that one residence at McMaster university
(Hamilton, Ontario, Canada) was named one of the top ten best places to get laid
-- by David Letterman, of course.
Well, it was a ten-floor, all-female residence ... so regardless of whether
David Letterman thought so, it seems like it was probably true.
Greg.
>
>The story when I was at RPI (late 80's - early 90's) was that RPI had been
>at #1 on the list for several years, then, suddenly, wasn't on the list.
>There was a note to the effect of "Yes, RPI isn't on the list; the list
>is for amateur partiers only. They're professionals at RPI."
>
We had the same UL at Texas A&M. The story goes that Playboy rated
schools based on beer consumption. Several schools in the south were
rated highly, including Southwest Texas State and the University of
Southern Louisiana. Texas A&M was excluded, however, because it was "a
rating of collegiate beer drinking, and those Aggies are pros." The
truth of the story, of course, was never established.
My vector extends back to about 1979, when I was there. But I know
that I've told the story many times since, and I did have friends at
RPI throughout the 80s, so maybe it's _my_ fault.
Rick Denney
Take what you want and leave the rest.
>There actually was, way back when, a Playboy article about party
>schools, and if I recallc orrectly it included a ranking. A lot of
>these questions could be resolved if someone could find that issue.
<http://www.playboy.com/faq/faq/PBFAQ/trivia.html#colleges>
Ulo "you owe me a beer" Melton
For the record, here's its list of party schools by beer consumption:
~quote~
Parties
Lots of beer
Rank College Name
1 Lehigh University
2 Washington and Lee University
3 University of the South
4 Randolph-Macon College
5 Union College (NY)
6 St. Lawrence University
7 Saint Bonaventure University
8 Bucknell University
9 Lafayette College
10 DePauw University
~unquote ~
It's also got a search engine to find where your school ranks on the
party lists. Playboy never had that.
http://www.review.com/college-rankings/
Search by School:
I'm sure drinking it from a wastebasket rinsed with toilet water did little
to improve the quality.
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> > The beer, unfortunately, was Fitzgerald, from a Troy brewery, which
> > was perhaps the worst beer I have ever tasted. But what the hell,
> > it was free.
> >
>
> I'm sure drinking it from a wastebasket rinsed with toilet water did little
> to improve the quality.
Don't be too hasty there, pal.
Richard "Piss Water" Brandt
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When I came to Virginia Tech in the fall of 1985 I heard many times that
Playboy ranked the dorm I lived in -- Pritchard Hall -- as being in "The
Top Twenty Party Dorms on the East Coast". I always thought that was
kind of a weird category.
Pritchard inspired a lot of stories, and I can attest that it was a
great party dorm.
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Maybe so. But delivering pizzas there really--dare I use strong, raw
language?--sucked.
regards,
Julia
Former Blacksburg Pizza Girl
***Please remove "sharks" to reply.
The reaction among U of Cers was one of sincere jubilation. The alumni
magazine ran a little squib crowing about it. A media entity did some
interviews on campus and got a nice quote from one of the undergrads:
"Fun isn't linear." I understand it became a T-shirt slogan.
Are there any other places that brag about being the Number Last party school?
Cambias
if you ranked them on solitary drinking in your room I bet we'd make top ten
> my alma mater the University of Chicago came in triumphantly at 300.
>
> The reaction among U of Cers was one of sincere jubilation. The alumni
> magazine ran a little squib crowing about it. A media entity did some
> interviews on campus and got a nice quote from one of the undergrads:
> "Fun isn't linear." I understand it became a T-shirt slogan.
Well, we were desperate for something to celebrate.
Unfortunately, the College seems to be well on its way to ruining its
reputation, having remodelled the bookstore to add a Starbuck's, turning
the Reynolds Club into something pleasant to visit rather than a dark and
dank tomb, and planning -- of all things -- an actual student union
building. And let's not even mention the proposed changes to the common
core.
Before much longer, it won't be possible to tell the College from the
pander-to-the-students B-school.
Becca "double UofCer" Ward
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>David Hatunen wrote:
>
>>There actually was, way back when, a Playboy article about party
>>schools, and if I recallc orrectly it included a ranking.
><http://www.playboy.com/faq/faq/PBFAQ/trivia.html#colleges>
I just checked the list and University of Florida is listed 29th.
However I just got back from a gator growl (New England
chapter of the U of Fla alumni) about an hour ago, and one
of the people there said that according to the latest list he had
seen (on line somewhere) U of F was now third. Of course,
he had been drinking, so maybe he confused the partying
list with the football ranking.
Charles Wm. "double gator" Dimmick
> Are there any other places that brag about being the Number Last party school?
Now that you mention it, BYU was at or near the bottom of somebody's
party-school ranking several years ago. Pressed for a quotable
reaction to the ranking, then-president Jeffrey R. Holland remarked
that he was pleased to see the school so recognized, or somesuch
thing. But bragging about it? Well, it didn't make it into the
next year's recruiting brochures.
R
R
> In alt.folklore.urban SpahmtrapD. A. Kelly
<da...@cornell.dak20@cornell..edu> wrote:
> : you might have to go off and die, very few chicks, good sports. And my
> : alma mater the University of Chicago came in triumphantly at 300.
>
> : The reaction among U of Cers was one of sincere jubilation. The alumni
> : magazine ran a little squib crowing about it. A media entity did some
> : interviews on campus and got a nice quote from one of the undergrads:
> : "Fun isn't linear." I understand it became a T-shirt slogan.
>
> : Are there any other places that brag about being the Number Last party
school?
>
> Probably, but ironically, when *I* was at the U of C (early '80s) it was
> "common knowledge" that the U of C had been ranked one of the top 10 party
> schools in "High Times" magazine. Never saw the issue, though... :(
>
This is astonishing. I was there 1984-88 and the prevailing attitude was
very much in the "if we wanted to have fun we'd be someplace else" vein.
While I'm sure a fair amount of cannabis smoke was inhaled, it was hardly
a party scene.
We are talking about the same University of Chicago, right? The one paid
for by JD Rockefeller, fronting on 59th St.? You aren't maybe thinking of
UI at C? (An amazing number of people IN CHICAGO couldn't tell them
apart.)
Cambias
Harvard On The Hill? Tinker Toy Tech? [I'm kidding... DVC is a fine JC]
The way I heard the list (back in 78) was that Chico was definately on
it, but so was St. Mary's College in Moraga (about 10 miles south of DVC.)
Now I believe the survey was done a few years earlier... 74 or so, and
the rating was based on the male-only St. Mary's, which became a coed
institution in [checking their web page www.stmarys-ca.edu] 1970. Their
historical chronology doesn't mention any such award... but then it probably
wouldn't. They've been trying to dispell the myth of rowdy drunken SMC
students for at least the last 15 years. [myth?... fooled me]
Using Altavista and "top near ten near party and playboy and chico" I get
but ONE hit, www.willdurst.com/WeeksWorth2.html where Will Durst (comedian)
makes the comment in a headline/dateline:
Chico, California, Where the state university is reknown for
being in Playboy's top ten party schools.
Removing "chico" from the search criteria, I hit a page claiming that
Ball State University is "consistantly listed in Playboy" as a top ten
party school.
I also hit the alt.folklore.college FAQ with an entry:
Tb. Nearly every college think's their on the Playboy top ten [...]
Ethan's Home web page claims that Harvey Mudd College in Claremont CA is
on Playboy's list. www.oxy.edu/~sadacca/old/
An unattributed "Top Ten Party Schools & Why" list at:
www.cs.runet.edu/~rraphael/my_pages/party.html
lists: 1) Penn St
2) NYU
3) W. Virginia
4) Tennessee
5) Ball St (Another vote for Ball)
6) Drexel
7) Rutgers
8) Maryland
9) Michigan St
10) Slippery Rock
There is a comment on the Slippery Rock entry of:
"Some of Playboy's top ten should visit here some time."
Which seems to indicate that the above top ten is NOT the Playboy top ten.
Changing the search criteria to "playboy near chico" I find:
- a page stating "Chico was once voted by Playboy something like Biggest
Party School."
- orion.csuchico.edu/Archivves/Volume35/Issue5/News/PartyCentr.html which
dates the Playboy January 1987 issue as naming Chico the *TOP* party school.
[Must have been top ten before then, since I've heard it before 87]
- A Chico bar named Riley's in Playboy's TOP 100 College Bars.
- A Playboy article mentioning Chico Hamilton, Newport Jazz... nope.
- A mention of Playboy's College Girls at Chico... nope.
- ANOTHER Will Durst article [www.wald.com.library/durst021698.html] giving
a date "Circa 1979" as "One of Playboy's Party Schools"
- udel.edu/~marclip/education.html claims that CSU "Voted #1 Party School
by Playboy Magazine in the '80's."
Now, has anyone asking "who is on the top ten list" considered that Playboy
probably does this list yearly... for the last 25 years, and that would
put 250 schools on the list *officially*.
Oh, and "playboy near diablo near college" one unrelated hit.
BTW, the Mitchell Brothers (behind the green door, etc) got their film
education at DVC... I also understand that a current Congressperson
acted in one of their college films.
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> Brian <Fos...@aol.com> wrote:
>> When I use to of to DVC, a jc in Northern Ca. I use to hear about a list
>> done by Playboy of the Top Ten Schools with beatiful women. Rumor had it
>> that school was on the list. I didn't believe. But I do think their
>> really is a Playboy Party Schoo List and if I am not mistaken the San
>> Diago State was number 1 and Chicho State was number 2
> Harvard On The Hill? Tinker Toy Tech? [I'm kidding... DVC is a fine JC]
And would the message you're replying to be representative of the
type of education they provide?
(snip rest of post)
btw, *excellent* research. I am quite impressed.
nancy "not that it usually takes much to do that" g.
>Brian <Fos...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>When I use to of to DVC, a jc in Northern Ca. I use to hear about a list
>>done by Playboy of the Top Ten Schools with beatiful women. Rumor had it
>>that school was on the list. I didn't believe. But I do think their
>>really is a Playboy Party Schoo List and if I am not mistaken the San
>>Diago State was number 1 and Chicho State was number 2
>
>Harvard On The Hill? Tinker Toy Tech? [I'm kidding... DVC is a fine JC]
>
>The way I heard the list (back in 78) was that Chico was definately on
>it, but so was St. Mary's College in Moraga (about 10 miles south of DVC.)
>
>Now I believe the survey was done a few years earlier... 74 or so, and
>the rating was based on the male-only St. Mary's, which became a coed
>institution in [checking their web page www.stmarys-ca.edu] 1970. Their
>historical chronology doesn't mention any such award... but then it probably
>wouldn't. They've been trying to dispell the myth of rowdy drunken SMC
>students for at least the last 15 years. [myth?... fooled me]
FWIW - this list has been discussed extensively on alt.folklore.urban.
They have never been able to locate the famous "party" list in any
copy of the magazine. However, they have determined that virtually
every college and university in the U.S. claims to have been on it.
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Stuff and nonsense. I received the very edition when I subscribed in
the eighties. It was the January 1987 issue. Cal State Chico was
Number One. Playboy mentions it on their Web page, in their FAQ:
"Since about 1955, rumors have floated around every campus in the
country that Playboy had at one time run a survey of drinking on campus
and that a particular school was listed as Number 1. The only time that
Playboy has ever ranked the best 'party' schools was in our January 1987
issue."
So you are correct that this has long had legendary status, but the
magazine's editors obviously decided to act on the legend by publishing
the real list in 1987.
Mitcho
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>The way I heard the list (back in 78) was that Chico was definately on
>it, but so was St. Mary's College in Moraga (about 10 miles south of DVC.)
<snip>
My apologies for my preceding post. I thought I was reading a
different newsgroup at the time, one not so knowledgeble about this
vital educational issues.
Peter "sorry" Curran
Just goes to show that there is always something new to be learned, eh?
The "Top 10 Party Schools" listings were appearing in Playboy in the
late 60s and early 70s. Dig up old issues and you will see it was an
annual affair. A University I was familiar with was on the list and we
used to call it "Cow Tech" and laugh as to the list's being a parody.
Like lurking, checking DejaNews for recent discussions of the subject,
backing up assertions of fact with cites, eh?
: The "Top 10 Party Schools" listings were appearing in Playboy in the
: late 60s and early 70s. Dig up old issues and you will see it was an
: annual affair. A University I was familiar with was on the list and we
: used to call it "Cow Tech" and laugh as to the list's being a parody.
From the Playboy FAQ (see http://www.playboy.com/faq/):
I've heard that Playboy ranked my college as the top party school. Is
that true?
Since about 1955, rumors have floated around every campus in the
country that Playboy had at one time run a survey of drinking on
campus and that a particular school was listed as Number 1. The only
time that Playboy has ever ranked the best "party" schools was in our
January 1987 issue. Here are the rankings from that survey, which we
compiled after interviewing campus club leaders, dorm rush chairmen,
fraternity presidents and other campus social studs at more than 250
schools nationwide (if your school isn't listed, it's probably because
we didn't include professionals):
01. California State University, Chico
02. University of Miami, Coral Gables
03. San Diego State University, San
Diego
04. University of Vermont, Burlington
05. Slippery Rock University,
Pennsylvania
06. University of Connecticut, Storrs
07. West Virginia University,
Morgantown
08. Plymouth State College, Plymouth,
New Hampshire
09. Mercer University, Macon, Georgia
10. University of Virginia,
Charlottesville
11. State University of New York,
Cortland
12. Colorado State University, Fort
Collins
13. Arizona State University, Tempe
14. University of Nevada, Las Vegas
15. Boston University, Boston
16. Central Michigan University, Mount
Pleasant
17. Southern Illinois University,
Carbondale
18. Ball State University, Muncie,
Indiana
19. Oklahoma State University,
Stillwater
20. Central Connecticut State
University, New Britain
21. University of Maryland, College
Park
22. University of Mississippi,
University
23. West Georgia College, Carrollton
24. University of Texas, Austin
25. Massachusetts Institute of
Technology, Cambridge
26. University of Kansas, Lawrence
27. Kansas State University, Manhattan
28. Glassboro State College,
Glassboro, New Jersey
29. University of Florida, Gainesville
30. Eastern Kentucky University,
Richmond
31. University of Iowa, Iowa City
32. University of Oklahoma, Norman
33. Brown University, Providence,
Rhode Island
34. Ohio University, Athens
35. University of Massachusetts at
Amherst
36. University of Georgia, Athens
37. Louisiana State University, Baton
Rouge
38. University of Missouri/Rolla
39. Reed College, Portland, Oregon
40. Fairhaven College, Bellingham,
Washington
Honorable Mentions: Alabama, Auburn,
Clemson, Colorado at Boulder,
Columbia, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Iowa
State, Kent State, Michigan State,
Penn State, Purdue, Rhode Island,
Rutgers, Tennessee at Knoxville,
Trinity College.
Andrew "deja vue all over again" Warinner
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I guess you've just proved that you *didn't* read it for the articles.
http://www.playboy.com/faq/faq/PBFAQ/trivia.html#colleges
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Did you mean "these vital educational issues" or just "this one?"
Obviously the drinkers at LSU were too busy to do justice
to the survey. But how did the "campus social studs" at MIT
do the engineering of MIT's high ranking as a top party school?
Going back a couple more decades, in the late 60's, before
Princeton became co-ed, the editors of the "Daily Princetonian"
wrote a little paperback book named,
"The College Man's Guide To Where The Girls Are".
I looked up my own (co-ed) college in this little paperback, and
the book said that you'd be better off somewhere else, anywhere
else, even in Cleveland, than looking for action at Oberlin,
(a small college in a small, "dry" town near Cleveland) but if
you're a desperate college man and you really want to find the
girls at Oberlin on a Saturday night, go to the college library.
So? What do you expect at a school whose motto is,
"Learning and Labor".
Ben "getting high at the Rat on 3.2% beer" Rosenberg
Stamford, Connecticut, USA
> [snip] if
> you're a desperate college man and you really want to find the
> girls at Oberlin on a Saturday night, go to the college library.
>
> So? What do you expect at a school whose motto is,
> "Learning and Labor".
Dear Ben,
I looked for a college which had the motto "Driving fast and Getting
your wing-wang squeezed" but couldn't find one. Do you have any
advice ?
Simon "hopeful" Slavin.
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