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Defamed Raw Prawn

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May 6, 2010, 11:16:03 PM5/6/10
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I've just been to see a physiotherapist (or physical-therapist) about my
a stiff wrist problem, and he says it's because I've been lifting weights
as well as playing instruments.

He says I can try and do both, but he expects I'll find that muscles can
either be good at endurance (i.e lifting stuff) or for many fast, little
motions. Very hard to be good at both.

He said to me that very few musicians are tanked. Most of us have scrawny
arms. Is this your experience?

Tony Done

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May 6, 2010, 11:27:32 PM5/6/10
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"Defamed Raw Prawn" <notrea...@all.com> wrote in message
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Well I'm a scrawny little weakling, but I'm good at opening stiff jar caps.
You can see the muscle down the pinky side of my left hand through using a
heavy brass slide for about 25 years.

I'm 65, and so far I've never had a strain type injury, or even tiredness at
a long gig from playing the guitar - mostly an acoustic with 13-56 strings.

Tony D

Monster Zero

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May 7, 2010, 12:07:13 AM5/7/10
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"Defamed Raw Prawn" <notrea...@all.com> wrote in message
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Kane Roberts says hello..

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DeeAa

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May 7, 2010, 12:27:13 AM5/7/10
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Try one of those centrifuge spin balls...um, NSD Powerball. They seem
pretty nice for wrist training.

Cheers,

Dee

Nil

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May 7, 2010, 12:30:52 AM5/7/10
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On 06 May 2010, Defamed Raw Prawn <notrea...@all.com> wrote in
alt.guitar:

> I've just been to see a physiotherapist (or physical-therapist)
> about my a stiff wrist problem, and he says it's because I've been
> lifting weights as well as playing instruments.

I liked to lift weights for many years, but I've mostly given it up now
because it aggravates my tennis elbow, which in turn makes it
uncomfortable to play guitar. The guitar is more important to me than
the weights. The tennis elbow has gotten better lately, so I plan to
start a bit of moderate weightlifting soon, but not to the level it
once was.

jtees4

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May 7, 2010, 7:07:58 AM5/7/10
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On Fri, 07 May 2010 03:27:32 GMT, "Tony Done" <tony...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

Never surmised your age, though I knew you were not one of the many 12
year olds around here! You make a 52 year old feel young again....My
first goal in life is to live to be 65 (seriously). Maybe those 13-56
strings are the key to healthy workouts.

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dugjustdug

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May 7, 2010, 11:45:47 AM5/7/10
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On May 6, 8:16 pm, Defamed Raw Prawn <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:
> He says I can try and do both, but he expects I'll find that muscles can
> either be good at endurance (i.e lifting stuff) or for many fast, little
> motions. Very hard to be good at both.

I don't buy it.

I do a pretty intense 30 minute routine on machines 3 x week. The
goal is not to get beefy, but, to stretch and use the entire range of
the muscle exersized. While I'm not "Ah-nold" built, I'm certainly
not scrawny either.

That said, I believe you need to work at both sets of muscles to get
them to perform. But, they can co-exist.

Tony Done

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May 7, 2010, 4:56:42 PM5/7/10
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"jtees4" <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<g> I try to act my age sometimes, but that isn't always a desirable thing.
I think I'm headed into my second childhood, I appreciate old fashioned rock
and roll more now than I did when I was younger.

I hope your health mends and/or stays good. I guess I've been lucky so far,
but you can't count on it; you just don't have to take your life for
granted. I think that one reason I never get tired at gigs is that I always
play seated, plus the nervous energy.

Tony D

Learnwell

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May 7, 2010, 5:36:20 PM5/7/10
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On May 6, 8:16 pm, Defamed Raw Prawn <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:

I work out pretty hard six days a week and have for the last 15 years
and carry about 25 pounds of muscle mass above what my weight
consistently was for the 10 years before I started. I was developing
as a player during that time and have had no problem maintaing and
increasing my technical ability through a practice regimen harder than
my lifting regemin. What I am trying to say is that I am sure that one
does not affect the other.

I am surprised to hear your doctor refer to muscles as it is tendons
that move your fingers. I was concerned about this when I started and
did a little research, here are some tips;

Stretch early and often and stretch every muscle you use. Do it
properly, there are harmful ways to stretch.

Learnwell

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May 7, 2010, 5:51:39 PM5/7/10
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On May 6, 8:16 pm, Defamed Raw Prawn <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:

I work out pretty hard six days a week and have for the last 15 years


and carry about 25 pounds of muscle mass above what my weight
consistently was for the 10 years before I started. I was developing

as a player during that time and have had no problem maintaining and
increasing my technical ability. What I am trying to say is that I am
sure that one
does not affect the other IF DONE PROPERLY (which is rarer than you
might think, you can get pretty big while hurting yourself!)

I am surprised to hear your doctor refer to muscles as it is tendons

that move your fingers (think about any player that has monster
technique, is his/her fingers of forearms freakishly big?). I was


concerned about this when I started and

did a little research, here are some tips:

1) Stretch early and often and stretch every muscle you use. Do it
properly, there are harmful ways to stretch. When you see guys with
limited range of motion becasue of muscle mass this can usually be
traced to a lack of stretching.

2) Use thoughtful and proper form; it is not about how much weight you
push, it is about how much resistance you place on the muscle. Things
llike slow controlled movements without hyperextension. You may not
look as cool as the guy curling two plates (45 lbs) on both sides of a
curl bar while he swings back and forth wildly to move it, but you'll
be healthier.

A lot of people avoid this stuff and just do whatever adds muscle mass
quickest. This can lead to injury.

As long as I am on my soapbox dont forget a good warm-up, cool-down
and doing cardio for at least 30 minutes three times a week at 85% of
max heart rate (walk fast on an inclined treadmill - save those
knees!). I doubt these things help you avoid hand/arm injuries related
to guitar, but they are important.

Best of luck.

Ray

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May 10, 2010, 10:12:50 AM5/10/10
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Oh, nevermind, I was thinking 'wait' training. You know like counting
measures...

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