tallest ladder truck
metalman
build a building so tall that the tallest ladder truck cannot reach up to the top of it in the event
of a fire.
I cannot imagine a ladder truck that could reach up to the top of a skyscraper ( the twin towers
were 110 stories).
Does anyone know off hand how tall the tallest ladder trucks are?
Thanks in advance
Valerie
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Brad Bilger
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And it has been/will be permitted to build a building taller than the
tallest latter truck.. <sheesh>
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built by Smeal, it is 125'. Bronto has a platform which is 88 meters,
which translates to about 288 feet.
Dave
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:12:22 GMT, "metalman" <web_tr...@yahoo.com>
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metalman
Does anyone know of an aerial truck that can get higher than that?
http://www.fsfckids.ufl.edu/html/fetalest.htm
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> I was having a disagreement with a coworker today. He was telling me that it is not permitted to
> build a building so tall that the tallest ladder truck cannot reach up to the top of it in the event
> of a fire.
Any ladder truck will reach the top of a building if:
a. You put it there with a helicopter
b. You Use The Force Luke, Use The Force
c. Sorry to say this: Wait for the building to descend.
Even if a truck ladder could reach that high (In your dreams) I would
defy anyone to safely use it.
To answer your question though, the average is 75' to 100' and I beleive
the tallest is around 150' which is slightly less than a 15 story
building if your goal is to reach the top.
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Blazebuster
line crews in the Midwest to reach those real high ones (remember the story
of an autistic youth was stuck on top of a power girder in Texas?) Problem
is the trucks with great height are also hard to move and require lots of
space to turn or drive. We know that most cities, and other urban areas are
packed not spread. Secondly, the Bronto trade name is for "sky booms" not
ladders. They classify more as a snorkel than they do a ladder truck. Most
fire service rated trucks are 65, 75,100, 105, 110, respectively. They are
classified by Medium or Heavy duty aerial ladders in the fire service.
Your Co-worker is wrong mostly. Buildings that can be laddered completely
to all floors, and have existing fire escape mechanism already in place,
carry a better ISO Rating towards their fire insurance premium, the same is
said for the ability to raise water higher than 3 stories. But by your
co-workers belief, it is true that if the building cannot be laddered fully,
it has to have even more escape prevention, and suppression innovations than
the old rule of thumb evacuation windows, or fire escapes for dwellings, and
buildings of human occupancy greater than two stories. If you remember the
first WTC Incident in 93, their was great concern that the fire escape wells
were not large enough to carry the capacity of the escaping tenants.
especially if you consider the idea of one or more stairwells being in
accessible because of the emergency at hand. i.e. fire penetrated the well,
or fire or other problem blocked the well.
In your co-workers scenario, a building such as the Empire State Building,
St Louis Arch, or Sears Tower, would have to be built in an area with
nothing around it and a eight lane Highway surrounding the building. The
wind shear would be so great that the device could only be placed for
laddering on calm days. the vehicle would probably be a permit vehicle that
could only drive on concrete due to the weight it would carry.
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>I found a web site that advertises The bronto Skylift 235 which can rise to a
>height of 235 feet.
>Does anyone know of an aerial truck that can get higher than that?
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>http://www.fsfckids.ufl.edu/html/fetalest.htm
Hi,
As far as I know that is the highest reaching aerial.
I saw that 88 metres Bronto Skylift last year in Augsburg at the "Interschutz
2000". Now that was really overwhlelming! I took a photo of it from some
distance, the other ladders exhibited there seem to try reaching for it like
little children trying to reach for grown-ups with their hands.
If anyone wants to have that photo, just contact me.
My fire department made a direct comparison between a Bronto Skylift (F 32 MDT
2000) and an in Germany conventional ladder (DLK 23-12 CC, Iveco Magirus) as we
wanted to buy a Bronto. And the winner was - Bronto Skylift. Both in practical
and in economic aspects.
You can read about the details at our website,
http://www.feuerwehr-nittenau.de/
Despite its obvious advantages this vehicle is not sponsored by our government.
Now we are at the point that we will have to replace our old ladder by a new
conventional one.
Greetings from Nittenau, Germany,
Marco Kuprat
Howard Aubrey
metalman wrote:
I do believe the actual definition of high-rise is a building that cannot be reached
by FD ladder trucks.
HJA
Despair Bear
Around 200 Ft. I believe.
Despair Bear
Dan SFD
unheard of for cities to amend their codes to prohibit construction of
buildings that are taller that the FD can reach with ground ladders, and use
that to avoid purchasing an aerial apparatus.
LT
24 foot ladder would consider the three story building a high rise?
Larry
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>Your friend is incorrect. Currently the tallest straight aerial is
>built by Smeal, it is 125'. Bronto has a platform which is 88 meters,
>which translates to about 288 feet.
>Dave
What kind of weight does it take to stablize that kind of
height? Also what kind of engine is in that thing?
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frothie
ladder gonna reach ya on the 23rd floor. Your screwed if there's a fire in
your building..."
cathie
Matt
To expand that, it's not unheard for local codes to specify the site
plans must allow at least two locations the FD's current aerial can
reach the roof -- a 100' ladder is useless on a 4 story building if
you have to setup 102' away!
But that's strictly a local option.
pS
USSR had the tallest fire ladder at 200 or 250 feet. I wonder if you
could build a 300 foot ladder if you put big tires at the top of the
ladder and just let it roll up the side of the building? Peter S
Howard Aubrey
LT wrote:
> So that means a department with a three story building and only a standard
> 24 foot ladder would consider the three story building a high rise?
Notice the word 'trucks' after the word ladder in my post. If you have a 24'
mounted
on a turntable I would like to see it!!
HJA
Tom
have sprinklers) That SHOULD be the code everywhere. Ladder trucks are
useless half the time.
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as any building over 75 feet measured from the lowest level of fire
apparatus access to the highest occupiable level in the structure. Just in
case some one wondered...
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FF-II, EMT-I, HM-O&D, Ice and Water Rescue Tech, Driver/Operator
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