Agency reverses course on Trump's Alabama hurricane claim

[MK]

https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d

I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the initial
path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.

--
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad
judgment. - Will Rogers

[mixed nuts]

On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>
> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the initial
> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.

2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he
kept going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..

What a dumnass. Thin skinned too. And snowflake whiny. FAKE
PRESIDENT!!! And not exonerated.

--
Grizzly H.

[Skeeter]

In article <ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
melops...@undulatus.budgie says...

He's a president, not a weatherman. Maybe he doesn't have easy access to
Google like you do.

[mixed nuts]

He got briefings from the National Weather Service (weather.gov -
forecasts - hurricanes => https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/) but he's easily
distracted by people who don't praise him for his laser focus on the
subject at hand, so he didn't remember what the guy said and just made
up shit on his own and whined like a spoiled brat who didn't get 2
scoops when people called bullshit.

--
Grizzly H.

[MK]

"mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
news:ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...

> On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
>> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>>
>> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the
>> initial
>> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.
>
> 2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
> Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he kept
> going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..

That is the point. President Trump was right, and things changed. We sent
our guys to Alabama, because they weren't sure where it was going.

> What a dumnass. Thin skinned too. And snowflake whiny. FAKE
> PRESIDENT!!! And not exonerated.

Things changed. So big deal. Do you remember the main stream media going
after Obama for over a week, looking for those 7 states that don't exist?

[MK]

"Skeeter" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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The point is, Trump was right, and they wanted to make a big deal out of
nothing. Hell, Trump gets it right more than the weatherman.

[%]

it's just like usenet

[Fran]

Bwahahahahahaha!

[Fran]

On 8/09/2019 9:51 am, MK wrote:
> "mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
> news:ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
>>> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>>>
>>> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the
>>> initial
>>> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.
>>
>> 2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
>> Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he kept
>> going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..
>
> That is the point. President Trump was right,

??????? The point made by Nutz was that Trump wasn't right.

At the time Trump issued his tweet (1 September at 10.51 am) saying that
Alabama was going to be hit harder than anticipated, there was no such
warning or map from the NOAA showing major winds impacting on Alabama.

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I wonder if that's an impeachable offense? Has no-neck Nadler weighed in on
this yet?

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On 9/8/2019 4:55 AM, Checkmate wrote:
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> says...
>
>
>>
>> On 8/09/2019 9:51 am, MK wrote:
>>> "mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
>>> news:ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>> On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
>>>>> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>>>>>
>>>>> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the
>>>>> initial
>>>>> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.
>>>>
>>>> 2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
>>>> Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he kept
>>>> going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..
>>>
>>> That is the point. President Trump was right,
>>
>> ??????? The point made by Nutz was that Trump wasn't right.
>>
>> At the time Trump issued his tweet (1 September at 10.51 am) saying that
>> Alabama was going to be hit harder than anticipated, there was no such
>> warning or map from the NOAA showing major winds impacting on Alabama.
>
> I wonder if that's an impeachable offense? Has no-neck Nadler weighed in on
> this yet?

Mr. The President Trump is an extraordinarily talented, and remarkably
stupid, conman.

If you wish to know more, google "remarkably stupid conman" (duckduckgo
works too).

You're welcome.

--
Grizzly H.

[MK]

"mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message

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You have the answer at the above link, why don't you use it?
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_34_F120

[MK]

"Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote in message
news:ql2d4l$2j7$3...@dont-email.me...

What is so funny about your ignorance, Fran? Here's a screen shot for Sept
4th, which clearly covers 2/3 of Alabama (AL).
https://imgur.com/a/QRbiTVL

Here's the whole video from the beginning, so you can stew in your
ignorance:

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_34_F120

You remind me of Sir Gerg, spouting off about things he has no clue about.

Apology here:

[%]

he could very well be the gerk

[MK]

"Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote in message

news:ql2du3$75d$1...@dont-email.me...

> On 8/09/2019 9:51 am, MK wrote:
>> "mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
>> news:ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
>>> On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
>>>> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>>>>
>>>> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the
>>>> initial
>>>> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.
>>>
>>> 2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
>>> Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he
>>> kept
>>> going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..
>>
>> That is the point. President Trump was right,
>
> ??????? The point made by Nutz was that Trump wasn't right.

I understand that, Fran. You don't understand that President Trump was
CORRECT.

>
> At the time Trump issued his tweet (1 September at 10.51 am) saying that
> Alabama was going to be hit harder than anticipated, there was no such
> warning or map from the NOAA showing major winds impacting on Alabama.

No, this is NOAA's statement:

"
The statement read:

"From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information
provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and
the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane
Dorian could impact Alabama," the statement read. "This is clearly
demonstrated in Hurricane Advisories #15 through #41, which can be viewed on
the center's website.
"The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in
absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best
forecast products available at the time.""

[Steve]

Fran does like a good spouting off.

[MK]

"Steve" <steve-use...@gmx.com> wrote in message
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The poor dear probably gets her news from CNN.

[MK]

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ch2tut....@news.alt.net...

I doubt it.

[%]

yep that sounds totally correct alright especially the , " could
possibly " , that makes it 100% right there

[%]

go ahead , do whatever you like with it

[MK]

"%" wrote:
>>> he could very well be the gerk
>>
>> I doubt it.
>>
>>
>>
> go ahead , do whatever you like with it

Sure, anything is possible. If and when Fran dies, I'm sure he will steal
her sig too.

[mixed nuts]

The 64 knot (hurricane force) wind cone never touched Alabama. The 50
knot wind cone only touched Alabama (with a 5-10 knot contour way down
in the southeast corner) for the period between 8 AM and 2 PM on August 30.

Trump spreading bullshit (he lies a lot). You should buy him an ice
cream so he stops whining.

--
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[%]

who knows , it's usenet , anything can happen and does

[MK]

"mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message

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Oh, so now you want to split hairs? I think they call that moving the
goalposts.

Proof here, don't close your eyes: https://imgur.com/a/QRbiTVL

>
> Trump spreading bullshit (he lies a lot).

No, you are!

>You should buy him an ice cream so he stops whining.

I will, two scoops! LOL

[mixed nuts]

No rainbow jimmies. He's real touchy about that stuff.

--
Grizzly H.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, "MK" <M...@invalid.com> wrote:

<...>

>You remind me of Sir Gerg, spouting off about things he has no clue about.

You'd better watch your P's and Q's or else you're
gonna end up in my sig with the other harridans.

--
Yours Truly, Sir Gregory

Nadegda, kensi, Fran, Pandora » these are easily
ignored misandrists and anti-American, leftist liars.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019, % <per...@gmail.com> wrote:

What will NEVER happen on Usenet is intelligent
discourse from you and MK. Neither of you two
has the necessary cranial resources.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.]

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 14:31:05 -0500, "MK" <M...@invalid.com> wrote:
<...>

>The poor dear (Fran) probably gets her news from CNN.

Old Lady Fran lives in Australia so she gets her
news from KNN (Kangaroo News Network).

LOL.

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>
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 14:31:05 -0500, "MK" <M...@invalid.com> wrote:
> <...>
>
> >The poor dear (Fran) probably gets her news from CNN.
>
> Old Lady Fran lives in Australia so she gets her
> news from KNN (Kangaroo News Network).
>
> LOL.

Crikey!

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[vallor]

That may be even more disturbing, because it would indicate that the POTUS
of the OTUS can't read a simple graphic.

Using the graph, answer the following questions:

What is the highest percentage chance of tropical-storm-force winds
arriving in Alabama?

Now -- what happens if the hurricane turns right?

And finally -- WHEN was the POTUS of the OTUS informed that Dorian had
made a right turn?

> You remind me of Sir Gerg, spouting off about things he has no clue
> about.
>
> Apology here:

I dunno -- I think the POSTOS with the MOSTOS might have seen the end date
for the projection, and assumed the data was valid on that date. Doh!

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[MK]

"vallor" <val...@cultnix.org> wrote in message
news:gtok9q...@mid.individual.net...

Why can't the left just let it go? You lost, it was just a fucking
prediction, and most of the time, they are wrong to begin with!

Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
Whisper words of wisdom
Let it Be

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Why is this even a big deal, other than the fact that everything with Trump has
to get blown up into a big fucking deal?

[Fran]

Indeed. That graphic shows very clearly that by the time that Trump
tweeted on 1 September, just before 8am, that Alabama was not going to
have a problem. And Intermediate Advisory 32A issued at 8am shows that
too. Trump was wrong.

[Fran]

On 10/09/2019 5:18 am, MK wrote:
> "Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote in message
> news:ql2du3$75d$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 8/09/2019 9:51 am, MK wrote:
>>> "mixed nuts" <melops...@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
>>> news:ql0r2l$1ha5$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>> On 9/7/2019 1:11 PM, MK wrote:
>>>>> https://apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d
>>>>>
>>>>> I even watched a CNN clip a week ago saying that Alabama was in the
>>>>> initial
>>>>> path. This is what TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) looks like.
>>>>
>>>> 2 days before he did the big scare, the NWS issued probability for any
>>>> Alabama location had dropped to 5% for winds exceeding 6 knots but he
>>>> kept
>>>> going and going and going and going for the rest of the week..
>>>
>>> That is the point. President Trump was right,
>>
>> ??????? The point made by Nutz was that Trump wasn't right.
>
> I understand that, Fran. You don't understand that President Trump was
> CORRECT.

I understand that Trump was wrong and you would know tha tif ou had done
your homework.

>> At the time Trump issued his tweet (1 September at 10.51 am) saying that
>> Alabama was going to be hit harder than anticipated, there was no such
>> warning or map from the NOAA showing major winds impacting on Alabama.
>
> No,

Yes. Look at your own cite graphics and look at the time and date
stamps as the graphics unfold.

To assist you, I've done a time line:
1) Trump tweets at 7:51am - 1 Sept 2019 "In addition to.....Alabama will
most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1168174613827899393

Read the responses to Trump's tweet. Readers knew that he was wrong and
posted about it on Trumps's twitter feed.

2) NWS Alabama tweets at 8:11am - 1 Sept 2019 "Alabama will NOT see any
impacts from Dorian."
https://twitter.com/NWSBirmingham/status/1168179647667814400?s=20

So, 20 minutes AFTER Trump's tweet, NWS Birmingham corrects him. That
says very clearly that Trump was wrong. but then poor old Toddler
Trump, who has to be right about everything, even when he's wrong wrong
wrong, doubles down. Sad. Very sad.

At this sad stage when Trump tweeted, the NOAA denial which you have
quoted and which was only issued on 6 September shows very clearly that
at the time of Trump's tweet what he said was wrong. Alabama had already
been ruled out as being in the danger zone.

Now we come to the next item on the timeline:
which is YOUR cite and which was issued on 6 September 2019

>this is NOAA's statement:
>
> "
> The statement read:
>
> "From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information
> provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and
> the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane
> Dorian could impact Alabama," the statement read. "This is clearly
> demonstrated in Hurricane Advisories #15 through #41, which can be viewed on
> the center's website.
> "The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in
> absolute terms that were inconsistent with probabilities from the best
> forecast products available at the time.""

Yes, it did say that. Sadly. Information out of NOAA and all over the
media right round the world indicates that the unsigned statement was a
coerced one. It was issued following threats from Wilbur Ross to sack
people within the NOAA if they didn't toe the line and back up the lies
told by Toddler Trump.

What a sad and pathetic situation.

Now here is a final graphic from a little housewife who was preparing
for Hurricane Dorian. Even she knew on 31 August 2019 that Dorian was
not going to have an impact on Alabama.
https://aworkingpantry.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2019-09-01T22:04:00-04:00&max-results=8

Trump was wrong. He was called on it within 20 minutes of his tweet by
the Birmingham Alabama NWS. He was called on it by many of twitter
followers. Even a humble housewife posted more up to date information
about what was happening with Dorian a full day before Trump posted his
wrong information.

Sad, very sad.

[Fran]

You are the one who is trying to shift the goalposts. I said that
Trump's 1 September was wrong and it was. Read what I wrote. Date, time
and what Trump wrote. Trump tweeted 1 September. 7:51am.
"...Alabama, will most likely be hit (harder) than anticipated."
When Trump Tweeted that, it was ALREADY known that Alabama would not be
hit. Birminghan NWS corrected Trump 20 minuteds AFTER Trump's tweet:

"Alabama will NOT see any impacts from Dorian".

So no goalpost shifting from me or from Nutz. Trump gave wrong
information. Even at the time of Trump's tweet it was KNOWN to be
wrong. And known by a lot of people including those who responded to
his tweet, the Brimingham NWS and the little housewife I mentioned in
another post.

> Proof here, don't close your eyes: https://imgur.com/a/QRbiTVL

Indeed. That is PROOF that Trump tweeted incorrect information. Look
at it and pay attenition to the date and time stamps. His incorrect
information was corrected by a Birmingham NWS tweet within 20 minutes.

>> Trump spreading bullshit (he lies a lot).
>
> No, you are!

Nutz is not lying. Do your homework.

[Fran]

Indeed. Ask for help if you continue to not understand them.

> You remind me of Sir Gerg, spouting off about things he has no clue about.

I am nothing like Cur Gerg or like you. I do my homework. You and Cur
Gerg don't

> Apology here:

Thank you for that apology. It was certainly due from you. Perhaps next
time you'll do your homework.

[mixed nuts]

Mr. The President Trump is "the very biggest deal" the world has ever
seen. It's incredible, and very amazing, and so true.

He does lie a lot, but he's very cute and funny, when he does it (as
seen on tv and social media, but not in theaters near you, yet.).

--
Grizzly H.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.]

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:27:41 +1000, Fran <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote:


>Thank you for that apology. It was certainly due from you. Perhaps next
>time you'll do your homework.

The only homework in your sphere of influence is
the cooking, cleaning, ironing, laundering, sewing,
knitting and purling that takes place in your hovel
and is done by that cuckold of a husband of yours.

LOL

[JoeD]

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>

> Why is this even a big deal, other than the fact that everything with Trump has
> to get blown up into a big fucking deal?
>

Trump fucked up a lot of things for the libs, some of which we probably
haven’t even thought about yet.
It’s like someone killed your kids. You don’t let go of that kind of hate.
For the useful idiots, it’s a matter of team loyalty, imo. For the foreign
TRump haters, it’s anyone’s guess.

[%]

how many of your kids got killed

[Fran]

It's a big deal because people can die in inclement weather. Making the
weather service a political toy which can (and has) been instructed to
modify it's advice to fit the ego of a President is dangerous. People
who work out in all weather or who farm or fish or hunt or go out in
small boats or... etc, need the service given by an apolitical weather
service.

[%]

if you can't tell weather it's going to rain or not you shouldn't go outside

[MK]

"Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>> Proof here, don't close your eyes: https://imgur.com/a/QRbiTVL
>
> Indeed. That is PROOF that Trump tweeted incorrect information. Look at
> it and pay attenition to the date and time stamps. His incorrect
> information was corrected by a Birmingham NWS tweet within 20 minutes.

No, you loony nutter, Birmingham NWS tweet was the next day. By then, the
information Trump said was outdated THE DAY BEFORE. The map above even
shows Alabama in the watch zone, taken from the other URL I provided, that
had the entire history, so you could see for yourself. No you have doubled
down once again on stupid, like kensi and nads, so I'm done with your
ignorance.

I bet you couldn't even find Alabama on a map, Fran.

[MK]

"Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>
> Sad, very sad.

Yes, you are indeed very sad.

[Fran]

On 11/09/2019 2:35 pm, MK wrote:
> "Fran" <f2r2...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>>> Proof here, don't close your eyes: https://imgur.com/a/QRbiTVL
>>
>> Indeed. That is PROOF that Trump tweeted incorrect information. Look at
>> it and pay attenition to the date and time stamps. His incorrect
>> information was corrected by a Birmingham NWS tweet within 20 minutes.
>
> No, you loony nutter, Birmingham NWS tweet was the next day.

Nope. Same day. Do your homework.

By then, the
> information Trump said was outdated THE DAY BEFORE. The map above even
> shows Alabama in the watch zone,

Yes, it does show that but shows that for DAYS before Trump's Tweet.
When Trump tweeted, his information was wrong and DAYS out of date.

taken from the other URL I provided, that
> had the entire history, so you could see for yourself. No you have doubled
> down once again on stupid, like kensi and nads, so I'm done with your
> ignorance.

Of course you are. I've proved you wrong. You can't even look at the
Tweets from both Trump and the Birmingham NWS and figure out that the
tweets were made on the SAME day

> I bet you couldn't even find Alabama on a map, Fran.

Of course I can. But since you can't check out the dates on 2 tweets,
you need to pretend I can't

[Fran]

But I'm not as sad as you. I can figure out how to check dates on two
tweets.

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