Oh my goodness!
**Dalin**
For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
Dalin
Mick Fanner
> For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
Interesting concept. ;-)
--
Mick. <Magister mundi sum!>
"Made it Ma. Top of the world."
**Dalin**
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:37:38 +0000, **Dalin** wrote:
>
>> For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
>
>Interesting concept. ;-)
People bury pets in their back yard. Wonder if there are any laws
about burying people, especially if you live way out in the country.
I read once that funeral homes get most of their profit from the cost
of a casket. I can't imagine they would like you ordering your own
and having it delivered to a funeral home.
Dalin
Mick Fanner
> Wonder if there are any laws
> about burying people, especially if you live way out in the country.
In this country, it's against the law to bury people just anwhere, but you
can apply to [someone] for permission to be buried in, say, your own back
yard.
> I read once that funeral homes get most of their profit from the cost
> of a casket. I can't imagine they would like you ordering your own
> and having it delivered to a funeral home.
I like to think that if I'm the one that survives from this pairing, that
I'll have the strength to tell the obsequious flunky at the funeral home
to shove his overpriced box that *won't* get buried or burned but rather
'recycled', and give me something in cheapest plywood.
But I fear that the emotion of such an occasion would get the better of
me and I'll agree to just about anything.
**Dalin**
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:04:50 +0000, **Dalin** wrote:
>
>> Wonder if there are any laws
>> about burying people, especially if you live way out in the country.
>
>In this country, it's against the law to bury people just anwhere, but you
>can apply to [someone] for permission to be buried in, say, your own back
>yard.
That's neat! Except if you ever sell your house. That could lead to
some problems.
>
>> I read once that funeral homes get most of their profit from the cost
>> of a casket. I can't imagine they would like you ordering your own
>> and having it delivered to a funeral home.
>
>I like to think that if I'm the one that survives from this pairing, that
>I'll have the strength to tell the obsequious flunky at the funeral home
>to shove his overpriced box that *won't* get buried or burned but rather
>'recycled', and give me something in cheapest plywood.
How would it get recycled?
>
>But I fear that the emotion of such an occasion would get the better of
>me and I'll agree to just about anything.
I think that's what happens. I can hear the flunky now saying "You
don't want your beloved to be viewed by friends and family in a cheap
box do you?"
Mick Fanner
> That's neat! Except if you ever sell your house. That could lead to
> some problems.
Yeah well, I said you could apply, but it may not be granted. I guarantee
that if Wendy asked if it was all right to plant me under the patio, the
answer would be a resounding *no*, but if we were landed gentry, she would
probably be allowed to bury me in a designated family plot.
There may well be some instances between these two extremes but you'd have
to move over here and apply. <lol>
*won't* get buried or burned but rather
>>'recycled', and give me something in cheapest plywood.
>
> How would it get recycled?
Oh dear. I'm almost loathe to tell you,but I will. You might pay for your
loved one to be displayed in the finest mahogany with the finest brass
handles, but once that curtain closes around the coffin, you can just bet
that they have no qualms about swapping boxes. Burn a cheap plywood one
and clean up the very expensive one for reuse.
Not sure how they swing it with burials but I'll bet they do. Probably use
the real deal for viewings but a cheaper box for the internment. For sure
no-one at the grave side is going to ask questions, even if they notice.
>>But I fear that the emotion of such an occasion would get the better of
>>me and I'll agree to just about anything.
>
> I think that's what happens. I can hear the flunky now saying "You
> don't want your beloved to be viewed by friends and family in a cheap
> box do you?"
You got it. When we went to make arrangements for me dad's thing, I have
to say that it hadn't really hit me and I was quite businesslike. I got
really cross at the rubbish that was being spouted but could say
absolutely nothing. Me mum and me sister were well upset and they didn't
need me going off on one, so I didn't.
Joan F (MI)
have a service, just a brief viewing for immediate family and cremation, so
when the funeral director wanted to show us caskets, I just said give us the
cheapest one you have. He replied "you mean the welfare casket?" And
mentioned welfare casket a few more times while we were there. I am more
into getting my money's worth than impressing the neighbors so his pitch
only resulted in giving us a good laugh afterwards as he was so obvious.
beelady
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I went down to the home of one of my neighbors who is quite a handyman. He
was building something. I asked what. It was his casket. I thought he was
joking, but he wasn't.
BJ
>
**Dalin**
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:34:49 +0000, **Dalin** wrote:
>
>> That's neat! Except if you ever sell your house. That could lead to
>> some problems.
>
>
>Yeah well, I said you could apply, but it may not be granted. I guarantee
>that if Wendy asked if it was all right to plant me under the patio, the
>answer would be a resounding *no*, but if we were landed gentry, she would
>probably be allowed to bury me in a designated family plot.
>
>There may well be some instances between these two extremes but you'd have
>to move over here and apply. <lol>
>
>
>
>*won't* get buried or burned but rather
>>>'recycled', and give me something in cheapest plywood.
>>
>> How would it get recycled?
>
>Oh dear. I'm almost loathe to tell you,but I will. You might pay for your
>loved one to be displayed in the finest mahogany with the finest brass
>handles, but once that curtain closes around the coffin, you can just bet
>that they have no qualms about swapping boxes. Burn a cheap plywood one
>and clean up the very expensive one for reuse.
>
>Not sure how they swing it with burials but I'll bet they do. Probably use
>the real deal for viewings but a cheaper box for the internment. For sure
>no-one at the grave side is going to ask questions, even if they notice.
What a horrible thought! I hope a reputable place wouldn't do that!
Here if someone dies in the winter, there usually is no graveside
service. They put the casket into a refrigerated building and notify
you when the burial will be in the spring. After a few months, most
people don't go to the graveside burial, there is no minister or
priest there, just someone from the funeral home who says a quick
prayer. So I suppose they could switch caskets. However - when my Dad
who died in Jan, was buried in April, they did ask that a family
member or friend would be there to ascertain that the body (they
opened the casket) was the actual deceased. No one in the family
wanted to see my Dad again after he had been dead three months so a
friend of the family went. But since they opened the casket I don't
think it could be switched.
However, I've often wondered if you have your loved one cremated, how
do you know you are really getting their ashes?
>
>
>>>But I fear that the emotion of such an occasion would get the better of
>>>me and I'll agree to just about anything.
>>
>> I think that's what happens. I can hear the flunky now saying "You
>> don't want your beloved to be viewed by friends and family in a cheap
>> box do you?"
>
>You got it. When we went to make arrangements for me dad's thing, I have
>to say that it hadn't really hit me and I was quite businesslike. I got
>really cross at the rubbish that was being spouted but could say
>absolutely nothing. Me mum and me sister were well upset and they didn't
>need me going off on one, so I didn't.
Yes, when my mother asked my sis and me to go with her and help pick
out one, sis and I both chose a beautiful steel gray casket because
Dad owned a steel company and he loved it. It wasn't a wooden casket,
I don't know the material but it looked like steel. Unfortunately it
was one of the cheaper ones, and my mom more or less just pointed at a
wood casket because she was so upset and said it would do. It was
double the price. And not near as pretty. But we said nothing. It
made her feel good that she was sending him off proper and that is
what was important.
Dalin
**Dalin**
service in the church with the casket wheeled up to below the altar
only it is covered with a cloth (catafalq) (sp?) or flag so no one
can see the casket underneath. You can have a spray of flowers on
top. But no one can see whether it is a very expensive casket or a
plain pine box. Of course, it is a closed casket service.
Funeral directors play upon people's grief. One day I was looking at
a local funeral director's website and even urns for cremated remains
can cost hundreds of dollars. :-(
Dalin
Mick Fanner
>
> I went down to the home of one of my neighbors who is quite a handyman. He
> was building something. I asked what. It was his casket. I thought he was
> joking, but he wasn't.
There is no law at all governing what you can be buried in (toxic
materials notwithstanding). I've told Wendy to put me in a cardboard box,
but I'm betting *that* will go by the board, if and when.
Good idea that though. Might knock one up in the shed. Or two <lol>
Mick Fanner
> What a horrible thought! I hope a reputable place wouldn't do that!
I'm cynical enough to think what I think.
> However, I've often wondered if you have your loved one cremated, how
> do you know you are really getting their ashes?
Leave it gal, otherwise you'll give yourself nightmares. <lol>
It was
> double the price. And not near as pretty. But we said nothing. It
> made her feel good that she was sending him off proper and that is
> what was important.
In the end you bite the bullet and smile. You can't like it but you can't
change it.
Jane Benn
My grandfather chiseled his own name and date of birth on his
headstone (actually a family headstone with other names on it) leaving
only the date of death missing. I've seen it, and it's quite obvious
that it wasn't all done by the same hand.
--
Jane
Mick Fanner
> Oh, Mick, this reminds me of when my grandmother died. We were not going to
> have a service, just a brief viewing for immediate family and cremation, so
> when the funeral director wanted to show us caskets, I just said give us the
> cheapest one you have. He replied "you mean the welfare casket?" And
> mentioned welfare casket a few more times while we were there. I am more
> into getting my money's worth than impressing the neighbors so his pitch
> only resulted in giving us a good laugh afterwards as he was so obvious.
Well done you. Hope you watched his smile fade slowly into the sunset. ;-)
You know the more I think of that, the more I smile.
"You mean the welfare casket?"
"Yessiree Bob. Thass the one." <lol>
or
"Unless you have something cheaper."
**Dalin**
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:26:30 +0000, **Dalin** wrote:
>
>> What a horrible thought! I hope a reputable place wouldn't do that!
>
>I'm cynical enough to think what I think.
>
>> However, I've often wondered if you have your loved one cremated, how
>> do you know you are really getting their ashes?
>
>
>Leave it gal, otherwise you'll give yourself nightmares. <lol>
Well I don't care what David does with me if he is the survivor, the
only thing I said to him was do not have an open casket if you want a
traditional burial. The idea of having some stranger fix my hair, put
makeup on me, make me look unreal ....
Vanity even after death!
You know, funerals are barbaric! Memorial services are nice.
**Dalin**
that's nice Jane. Don't you wish you knew who the other hands were?
His father, his grandfather?
Dalin
Joy
news:47910daa...@130.133.1.4...
>I was just looking at overstock.com and do you know they sell caskets?
> For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
> Dalin
LOL! The mind boggles!
--
Joy
Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of
the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would
improve man, but deteriorate the cat. - Mark Twain
Joy
Fortunately, that wasn't a problem with me. There was no viewing, and no
funeral, per se - only a memorial service. Of course, it helped to belong
to a memorial society. All I had to do was make a phone call, and the
mortuary took care of the rest.
Joy
Joy
>> don't want your beloved to be viewed by friends and family in a cheap
>> box do you?"
>
> You got it. When we went to make arrangements for me dad's thing, I have
> to say that it hadn't really hit me and I was quite businesslike. I got
> really cross at the rubbish that was being spouted but could say
> absolutely nothing. Me mum and me sister were well upset and they didn't
> need me going off on one, so I didn't.
>
> --
> Mick. <Magister mundi sum!>
When my great-grandmother died, my mother went with her mother to make the
arrangements. The man said, "What would your mother think if you didn't
honor her by burying her in a nice (meaning expensive) casket?" My
grandmother replied, "She'd come back and haunt me if I spent a lot of money
on something that's going to be buried."
Joy
Joy
>
> You know, funerals are barbaric! Memorial services are nice.
I agree!
Joy
**Dalin**
I'm not aware of any memorial societies in this area. That's not to
say they don't exist. But you did have to pick out a casket etc.
didn't you?
Dalin
>
**Dalin**
I don't think funeral services through a funeral company have changed
much in 40 years. I remember reading a book back in maybe the early
70s called "The American Way of Death". I think it was by Rachel
Carson, but not positive. But it spoke way back then about how
barbaric funeral homes were with their sale of caskets, embalming,
makeup artist, and what a rip off most of it was, how they get you
when you are vulnerable etc. And they are still doing it.
Dalin
Janie
I wonder if they make diamond caskets? :)
Janie
Stick and stones can break my bones but words can break my heart.
Jane Benn
wrote:
n
>Funeral directors play upon people's grief. One day I was looking at
>a local funeral director's website and even urns for cremated remains
>can cost hundreds of dollars. :-(
>
>Dalin
>
>
>
We found that out when my father died. He was cremated, but we wanted
to bury the ashes in the family plot. You could have the plastic
container from the crematorium for nothing, but the nicer urns and
wooden boxes cost insane amounts of money. My brother just took the
plastic one, and a family friend who does woodworking made a lovely
box into which it fit for us to bury. He had done the same when his
mother died. He wouldn't take anything for it, not even the cost of
the wood. He said it was left over from another project, but he's the
kind who would say that, anyway.
--
Jane
Jane Benn
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:08:15 -0500, beelady wrote:
>
>>
>> I went down to the home of one of my neighbors who is quite a handyman. He
>> was building something. I asked what. It was his casket. I thought he was
>> joking, but he wasn't.
>
>There is no law at all governing what you can be buried in (toxic
>materials notwithstanding). I've told Wendy to put me in a cardboard box,
>but I'm betting *that* will go by the board, if and when.
>
>Good idea that though. Might knock one up in the shed. Or two <lol>
They actually have caskets that are made out of particleboard and
covered with cloth that are quite inexpensive.
I was at a funeral once where they used one, and I almost laughed when
I saw it. It didn't look that bad, it just reminded me of his words.
This was a friend who had been ill for quite a while, and he told me
he had picked out his own coffin. He said he chose the cheapest one
they had, because he wasn't going to have his wife spend a lot of
money burying him, when she could use the money instead to throw a
great party for his friends. And it was a good party, with lots of
funny stories about him, and laughing and crying and remembering.
He was always a great host, and she did him proud.
--
Jane
Jane Benn
wrote:
I do wish I knew. It's quite possible he learned how from his father,
who was a blacksmith/farrier and obviously the handy type.
My grandfather's is the only name where the chiselling for the
particular name was not all done by one person, though.
--
Jane
**Dalin**
I can only understand paying a fortune for an urn if you want to
display it on your fireplace mantel or piano or someplace in your
home. That was lovely to put the plain plastic urn into a lovely hand
made box. Made with loving hands by a friend. :-)
Dalin
**Dalin**
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:08:15 -0500, beelady wrote:
>
>>
>> I went down to the home of one of my neighbors who is quite a handyman. He
>> was building something. I asked what. It was his casket. I thought he was
>> joking, but he wasn't.
>
>There is no law at all governing what you can be buried in (toxic
>materials notwithstanding). I've told Wendy to put me in a cardboard box,
>but I'm betting *that* will go by the board, if and when.
>
>Good idea that though. Might knock one up in the shed. Or two <lol>
If you made it I'm sure it would give her great comfort to use it.
:-)
Dalin
**Dalin**
Wow! I don't think I could pick out my own coffin. That took guts!
When we go to the cemetery to put flowers on my Dad's grave I walk
across the place where we will be buried someday and it sort of gives
me the shivers. Almost makes me want to start planting flowers and
shrubs and stuff but I know when they dig the hole the plantings will
be displaced. Unless we have each other cremated.
Dalin
**Dalin**
<nospamp...@rogers.com> wrote:
What kind of stone, granite? I understand it is such a hard stone
that it would wear out chisels.
Dalin
**Dalin**
wrote:
LOL! Got a few million?
And then you would have to watch out for grave robbers too!
Dalin
Joan F (MI)
never be parted from your diamond(s).
Michelle
Gehrig's Disease) which was a 3 year long ordeal. Anyway, somehow, a few
weeks before his death, I woke up one morning and just knew I needed to go
make his funeral arrangements and knew I had the strength to do it that day.
I visited both funeral homes in town and also looked on the web for caskets
comparing costs. I was very calm somehow, about this. I then told the
funeral director that the exact same casket was several thousand dollars
cheaper via the web, than the one he was selling. He actually met the price
of the cheaper one. Said more and more people were ordering off the web,
the caskets are delivered directly to the funeral home you select; anyway,
they are becoming competitive.
My husband was buried at the Ft. Sam Houston military cemetery in San
Antonio; they also bury the spouses in the same grave; so everytime I visit
him, I visit my own grave eventually. Strange, but somehow it's OK to know
where I'll be.
Reading all the posts on this subject. . .just my cents worth.
Michellenews:47910daa...@130.133.1.4...
Joy
calm.
My condolences on your loss.
--
Joy
Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of
the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would
improve man, but deteriorate the cat. - Mark Twain
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Jane Benn
wrote:
Yes, it is granite.
My grandfather was also a blacksmith in his younger years, and his
brother was one his whole life, and shared a shop with some cousins.
Some of them were still in business after my grandfather died. So I
imagine he could have made or gotten a new chisel any time he needed
one.
--
Jane
Jane Benn
wrote:
That's how we felt about it. My uncle would have made it (they were
friends for nearly 60 years) but had a sprained wrist at the time.
I've never understood that "on the mantel thing".
ANd I had another uncle who said it would be more useful if you
carried him around in the trunk of your car and used the ashes when
your car got stuck in the snow. :-)
--
Jane
**Dalin**
wrote:
Oh, I'm so sorry Michelle. And comparing prices was a very smart
thing to do. I had no idea that a funeral home would let you buy your
casket anywhere else but from them. I suppose you could only do that
if you knew your loved one was dying soon. If death was sudden you
wouldn't be emotionally prepared to do that.
A markup of several thousand dollars is one darned high markup!
Dalin
Jean B.
> I lost my husband of 39 years, almost 2 years ago. He died of ALS (Lou
> Gehrig's Disease) which was a 3 year long ordeal. Anyway, somehow, a few
> weeks before his death, I woke up one morning and just knew I needed to go
> make his funeral arrangements and knew I had the strength to do it that day.
> I visited both funeral homes in town and also looked on the web for caskets
> comparing costs. I was very calm somehow, about this. I then told the
> funeral director that the exact same casket was several thousand dollars
> cheaper via the web, than the one he was selling. He actually met the price
> of the cheaper one. Said more and more people were ordering off the web,
> the caskets are delivered directly to the funeral home you select; anyway,
> they are becoming competitive.
> My husband was buried at the Ft. Sam Houston military cemetery in San
> Antonio; they also bury the spouses in the same grave; so everytime I visit
> him, I visit my own grave eventually. Strange, but somehow it's OK to know
> where I'll be.
> Reading all the posts on this subject. . .just my cents worth.
> Michelle
I'm sorry to hear your husband died--and of ALS, Michelle.
It's good that you conjured up the energy to do what had to be
done....
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> That's how we felt about it. My uncle would have made it (they were
> friends for nearly 60 years) but had a sprained wrist at the time.
>
> I've never understood that "on the mantel thing".
>
> ANd I had another uncle who said it would be more useful if you
> carried him around in the trunk of your car and used the ashes when
> your car got stuck in the snow. :-)
>
> --
> Jane
Wellllll, that would be one way of getting one's ashes widely
dispersed. :-)
--
Jean B.
**Dalin**
<nospamp...@rogers.com> wrote:
LOL! Sounds like he had a great sense of humor. <g> I know some
people buy absolutely gorgeous urns and put them in their garden. I
saw an urn on one website that had a bird bath on top.
Dalin
Norma
I won't need a grave dug. I've asked to be cremated and scattered in
a field to help the wildflowers grow.
Norma
"Those Macedonians are a rude and clownish people, they call a spade a
spade."
Plutarch
Joan F (MI)
by a sculptor friend from the internet.
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL827/1526244/2915644/75374802.jpg One can
only wish to have such an elegant resting place.
Joy
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> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:33:33 GMT, **Dalin** wrote:
>
>> One thing I really like about my church - you can have the funeral
>> service in the church with the casket wheeled up to below the altar
>> only it is covered with a cloth (catafalq) (sp?) or flag so no one
>> can see the casket underneath. You can have a spray of flowers on
>> top. But no one can see whether it is a very expensive casket or a
>> plain pine box. Of course, it is a closed casket service.
>>
>> Funeral directors play upon people's grief. One day I was looking at
>> a local funeral director's website and even urns for cremated remains
>> can cost hundreds of dollars. :-(
>>
>> Dalin
>>
>> <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>> [19 quoted lines suppressed]
>
> our church has a similar memorial service but the coffin isn't covered.
> Everyone can see the 'quality' of it :(
> --
> Age is something that doesn't matter,
> unless you are a cheese.
> http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/
There has been no coffin at the last several memorial services I've
attended.
Joy
Joy
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I don't understand it either. I am reminded of a scene in "Meet the
Parents". Anyone who has seen the movie will know which scene I mean.
Joy
Crusher
"Joan F (MI)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote in message
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My wife is in a wooden urn on the mantel for several reasons; 1) son didn't
want to see his mother in a casket as his last memory of her, 2) neither of
us wanted to be putting flowers on a grave in a cold winter day, 3) we
aren't from here and if we move elsewhere we don't want to have to come back
to visit her, 4) none of our family is here so the service was small, and 5)
cremation costs less than half the price of a standard funeral. Since a
mantle over a fireplace is the most noticeable display place in a house it
is the obvious choice for the urn.
--Bob--
Joy
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Your reasons were obviously important to you.
Everybody has to make such decisions for themselves. There are many ways of
handling things, and none of them is right for everybody. None of them - at
least those that have been mentioned here - is wrong for the person who
wants to do it that way.
Joy
beelady
I've told my daughters to have me cremated and divide the ashes into several
baggies. If somebody goes to Europe, a baggie can go with them, since I've
never been there. If the family gathers for Thanksgiving, they can put a
baggie in the dining room so I don't miss the family festivities. They just
roll their eyes. Why do I think they won't really do that LOL.
A friend of mine died last Christmas. Her family did put her into seven
baggies. They were emptied at her seven favorite places -- Ireland, the
beach, etc.
BJ
Two heads are better than one
>
Janie
> I was just looking at overstock.com and do you know they sell caskets?
> For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
> Dalin
My neighbor's mother died and it was going to cost a small fortune for
the urn. He's a real handy man and make a beautiful urn for her ashes
which they had buried at a funeral plot. i want to be cremated and
have my ashes spread at my favorite beach.
Janie
Sue
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I want my ashes to be sprinkled in the outgoing tide at Geiger Key Marina.
After a count of 1-2-3-
Stan wants his buried under the 3rd base at Carmalita Softball field in
Punta Gorda, Fl.
Sue
lI'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours.
>>
>
>
**Dalin**
friend. :-)
Dallin
Mick Fanner
> They actually have caskets that are made out of particleboard and
> covered with cloth that are quite inexpensive.
That'll be mine. Chipboard (as we call it) and some cheap B&Q handles.
<lol>
> This was a friend who had been ill for quite a while, and he told me
> he had picked out his own coffin. He said he chose the cheapest one
> they had, because he wasn't going to have his wife spend a lot of
> money burying him, when she could use the money instead to throw a
> great party for his friends. And it was a good party, with lots of
> funny stories about him, and laughing and crying and remembering.
I'd rather that Wendy used the money for a good holiday than spent it on a
silly coffin. But the party would be fine. <lol>
Michelle
age of online shopping that even funeral arrangements (caskets) are
possible. At the time I made the arrangements, I had no idea the time was
so close, but maybe God was just with me that day and was guiding me to go
ahead and make those arrangements.
Michelle
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mmj1
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>>
>> You know, funerals are barbaric! Memorial services are nice.
>
> I agree!
>
> Joy
I agree with both of you.
mj
Jane Benn
<nospam...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>My wife is in a wooden urn on the mantel for several reasons; 1) son didn't
>want to see his mother in a casket as his last memory of her, 2) neither of
>us wanted to be putting flowers on a grave in a cold winter day, 3) we
>aren't from here and if we move elsewhere we don't want to have to come back
>to visit her, 4) none of our family is here so the service was small, and 5)
>cremation costs less than half the price of a standard funeral. Since a
>mantle over a fireplace is the most noticeable display place in a house it
>is the obvious choice for the urn.
>
>--Bob--
>
Thanks, Bob.
In a way, that explains very well why people do it.
I actually only visit cemetries on occasion to gather genealogical
information, but that's the only time I go there.
--
Jane
Jane Benn
<mick....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'd rather that Wendy used the money for a good holiday than spent it on a
>silly coffin. But the party would be fine. <lol>
I have told my brother he should do cremation, a very private memorial
service for close family, and spend the smallest amount possible. To
me, it's a useless way to spend a lot of money, and I'd prefer what I
leave to be used well, whether it be for a party or a vacation that
would give enjoyment to those I love, or education for my brother's
grandchildren, or for whoever inherits to just live an easier life.
--
Jane
Mick Fanner
> I have told my brother he should do cremation, a very private memorial
> service for close family, and spend the smallest amount possible. To
> me, it's a useless way to spend a lot of money, and I'd prefer what I
> leave to be used well, whether it be for a party or a vacation that
> would give enjoyment to those I love, or education for my brother's
> grandchildren, or for whoever inherits to just live an easier life.
I wonder just how many people, these days, feel as we do but see their
wishes ignored, at the death, so to speak.
Shortly after my dad died, my mother paid for her own funeral so as not to
lumber any of us with the cost. That was twelve years ago and £1500. I
dread to ask what today's costs would be, but all this talk about it has
me wondering if there is a way of legally avoiding funeral directors.
Research is needed, methinks.
**Dalin**
With so many people getting cremated, I guess it might be difficult
for future genealogists. But David and I will have a headstone put
up, even if we aren't there. We already have our plots.
Dalin
Joy
That's the way I feel about it. It is also the way my mother felt, which is
why I was able to afford my fourth trip to Oz.
Joy
Jean B.
> On Jan 18, 6:58 pm, Janie <mb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 18, 3:37 pm, **Dalin** <l...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was just looking at overstock.com and do you know they sell caskets?
>>> For do-it-yourself burials maybe?
>>> Dalin
>> I wonder if they make diamond caskets? :)
>> Janie
>> Stick and stones can break my bones but words can break my heart.
>
> I won't need a grave dug. I've asked to be cremated and scattered in
> a field to help the wildflowers grow.
> Norma
I've also come to the conclusion that I want to give my
components back to nature. I do want a site with some marker
though....
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> My wife is in a wooden urn on the mantel for several reasons; 1) son didn't
> want to see his mother in a casket as his last memory of her, 2) neither of
> us wanted to be putting flowers on a grave in a cold winter day, 3) we
> aren't from here and if we move elsewhere we don't want to have to come back
> to visit her, 4) none of our family is here so the service was small, and 5)
> cremation costs less than half the price of a standard funeral. Since a
> mantle over a fireplace is the most noticeable display place in a house it
> is the obvious choice for the urn.
>
> --Bob--
>
>
together.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
--
Jean B.
Joy
I have been to a memorial service at a funeral home.
Joy