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gruffydd

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Nov 9, 2005, 4:06:28 PM11/9/05
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after all these many years, after thinking about drawing and painting, I am
attending classes. not exactly exhibition or degree level, more 'do what
you want, we will show you how to do it, but have fun'
I have been doing homework, as we all have, and have taken it in to class.
Teacher said my efforts are impressionistic, I said no, more like
pre-depressionistic.


**Dalin**

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Nov 9, 2005, 4:38:53 PM11/9/05
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That's great Gruffydd! Bob (Crusher) has done the same thing.
Well that's a new classification of art, pre-depressionistic. Maybe
you'll be the first famous artist of that genre. :-) I like your
teacher's attitude of having fun. Hope we can see some of your work
soon.

Dalin


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Stinkweed

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Nov 9, 2005, 6:40:58 PM11/9/05
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"gruffydd" <gr...@dinner.com> wrote in message
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That sounds like fun Gruffy, I took a lesson on painting recently. Just a
one night course and painted a picture. I should send you the picture.
Allan has it hid in the basement. lol He said he was going to hang it in
his office but when I was down in the basement last week I saw it was hid in
among other things. I should just pull it out and go put a nail in his wall
and hang it. <BEG>


Jean B.

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Nov 9, 2005, 6:44:40 PM11/9/05
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gruffydd wrote:

Cool! First Bob and now you! That's great!

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Jean B.

**Dalin**

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Nov 9, 2005, 7:21:48 PM11/9/05
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:40:58 -0600, "Stinkweed" <Stin...@Cricket.Net>
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I used to take lessons from PBS, the Alexander Method. Boy did I have
fun slathering oils all over the canvas and one of the pictures I did
hangs in our living room. Per David's orders cause I think it is
pretty bad. But Mr. Alexander got a lot of money from me buying his
books and brushes and paints! I did enjoy it but had to quit because
the turpentine gave me terrible headaches.

Dalin


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Yoj

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Nov 9, 2005, 7:55:34 PM11/9/05
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"gruffydd" <gr...@dinner.com> wrote in message
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Good for you, Gruffydd!

Joy


Stinkweed

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Nov 9, 2005, 8:56:45 PM11/9/05
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"**Dalin**" <lj...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Several of us gals took the lesson together and it was a lot of fun, my
picture didn't turn out horrible, but it wasn't exactly beautiful either.
We have decided to do it again next year. We did water and a palm tree and
water is very hard to do she said. I don't think I could do the oils very
often either as the odors were terrible. But we sure had fun.


Jean B.

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Nov 9, 2005, 10:30:54 PM11/9/05
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**Dalin** wrote:

You too! I OD'd on it I think, painting in the confines of my
room. We both need to try acrylics.

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Jean B.

Jeanette S.

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Nov 10, 2005, 11:13:53 AM11/10/05
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Jean B wrote: You too! I OD'd on it I think, painting in the confines

of my room. We both need to try acrylics.
*************************************************
Acrylics dry fster too, so you can't just dally along, have to move
fast. Jeanette

Jean B.

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Nov 10, 2005, 7:26:42 PM11/10/05
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Jeanette S. wrote:

How fast is fast? I remember my main turnoff was the fact
that they were shiny. I do suspect if I knew more about them,
I would be aware of ways to make them more matte....

And I STILL want to learn how to make burl bowls. I have
looked for local courses a few times, to no avail.

I should ask on my local list, but I have occupied enough of
their time today with another question.

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Jean B.

Bob Shirk

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Nov 11, 2005, 1:20:02 AM11/11/05
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To make bowls you need equipment. Google "wood turning". Bob.

Jean B.

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Nov 11, 2005, 10:36:36 AM11/11/05
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Bob Shirk wrote:

> To make bowls you need equipment. Google "wood turning". Bob.
>

Don't I wish I still had dad's tools? That may dictate that I
do this at the Art Center (which seems not to have such a
class) or maybe at the wood store. I will google on that.
Thanks, Bob.
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Jean B.

Crusher

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Nov 11, 2005, 10:48:07 AM11/11/05
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> Jeanette S. wrote:
>
>> Jean B wrote: You too! I OD'd on it I think, painting in the confines
>> of my room. We both need to try acrylics.
>> *************************************************
>> Acrylics dry fster too, so you can't just dally along, have to move
>> fast. Jeanette
>>
> How fast is fast? I remember my main turnoff was the fact that they were
> shiny. I do suspect if I knew more about them, I would be aware of ways
> to make them more matte....

> Jean B.

Use matte medium. Comes in a jar and is used in lieu of or with water as a
thinner.

--Bob--


Jeanette S.

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Nov 11, 2005, 11:13:15 AM11/11/05
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Jean B. wrote: How fast is fast? I remember my main turnoff was the

fact that they were shiny. I do suspect if I knew more about them, I
would be aware of ways to make them more matte....
And I STILL want to learn how to make burl bowls. I have looked for
local courses a few times, to no avail.
I should ask on my local list, but I have occupied enough of their time
today with another question.
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It has been a while since I have painted anything. Oils take about 24
hours, I think, but acrylics only about an hour. You'd have to check at
your local arts and crafts store, like Michael's, to see if they can be
dull Those burl bowls are beautiful, aren't they? I bought one at a
craft show several years ago, and it is lovely. But I haven't a clue as
to how they are made. Jeanette

Jean B.

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Nov 11, 2005, 11:41:25 AM11/11/05
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Crusher wrote:

Okay! That's simple. How are your art classes going, Bob?
Do they run for one semester? (Actually, should this even be
plural?)

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Jean B.

Jean B.

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Nov 11, 2005, 11:43:34 AM11/11/05
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Jeanette S. wrote:

> It has been a while since I have painted anything. Oils take about 24
> hours, I think, but acrylics only about an hour. You'd have to check at
> your local arts and crafts store, like Michael's, to see if they can be
> dull Those burl bowls are beautiful, aren't they? I bought one at a
> craft show several years ago, and it is lovely. But I haven't a clue as
> to how they are made. Jeanette
>

We have Michael's and some other art stores around here.
Actually, I should try the one in the Center first--local
business that it is. I think it has turned into a framing
store though, and they only have a few art supplies, if that, now.

I LOVE wood, and esp. burl bowls (probably etc.). I keep
eying gorgeous hunks of wood, wishing I could do something
with them.

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Jean B.

Crusher

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Nov 11, 2005, 9:08:18 PM11/11/05
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>> Use matte medium. Comes in a jar and is used in lieu of or with water as
>> a thinner.
>>
>> --Bob--
>>
>>
> Okay! That's simple. How are your art classes going, Bob? Do they run
> for one semester? (Actually, should this even be plural?)
>
> --
> Jean B.

Drawing class doing fine. First half grade was 31/32 (evaluation of
portfolio.) Design and composition class much more difficult. Last
assignment was to find magazine photos and assemble them into 4 collage
compositions each illustrating depth by a different method. Try finding mag
photos with the right theme and a compatible color scheme to illustrate a
specific point sometime. Not easy.

Current drawing assignment is to paint a still life of at least five all
white or near white objects in ink, using only black, two clearly
identifiable shades of gray and the white of the paper. Hard sidelighting
recommended.

I have definitely taken easier subjects. And the teacher is relentless in
her critique. But its all fun.

--Bob--

Crusher

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Nov 11, 2005, 9:40:54 PM11/11/05
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> Crusher wrote:
> Okay! That's simple. How are your art classes going, Bob? Do they run
> for one semester? (Actually, should this even be plural?)
>
> --
> Jean B.

These classes are one semester. I'm taking the winter off since I don't see
the point in trudging out in the snow to drive 45 miles to the next art
classes since they are near Columbus. In the spring I'll be taking figure
drawing and next fall a course in the history of art and music since 1945.
I'm also going to take a course in European history up to 1500 since I never
managed to take world history the first time around. I'm also considering a
course in either cultural or physical anthropology but I haven't decided on
that one yet.

The first time around in college the problem was learning how to study
effectively and manage time. This time around the problem is keeping what
you already know from interfering with what you are trying to learn.

--Bob--


Jean B.

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Nov 12, 2005, 11:56:06 AM11/12/05
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Crusher wrote:

> Drawing class doing fine. First half grade was 31/32 (evaluation of
> portfolio.) Design and composition class much more difficult. Last
> assignment was to find magazine photos and assemble them into 4 collage
> compositions each illustrating depth by a different method. Try finding mag
> photos with the right theme and a compatible color scheme to illustrate a
> specific point sometime. Not easy.
>
> Current drawing assignment is to paint a still life of at least five all
> white or near white objects in ink, using only black, two clearly
> identifiable shades of gray and the white of the paper. Hard sidelighting
> recommended.
>
> I have definitely taken easier subjects. And the teacher is relentless in
> her critique. But its all fun.
>
> --Bob--
>

Wow! That sounds challenging. Re the magazine photos, I
don't suppose you can look online--and use printouts of them.
What do you do? Spend massive amounts of time at the
magazine stand? Can you even use copies--say, if you sit in
the reading room of a library and go through them there?

Congratulations on that fine grade on your portfolio!

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Jean B.

Jean B.

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Nov 12, 2005, 11:59:07 AM11/12/05
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Crusher wrote:

Interesting. I went back to school before Leah was born.
Maybe when I get some free time, I will do that again. Are
you doing this for credit? I don't know whether I would do it
for credit or whether I would audit the courses. Seems the
latter requires self-discipline....

I agree re the winter. It's not nice having to go out when
the weather is bad. How do you plan to occupy yourself in the
interim?
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Jean B.

Crusher

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Nov 12, 2005, 1:44:36 PM11/12/05
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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The teacher had a ton of National Geographics and I found enough other
magazines at home to complete the assignment. Still took some time, though.
And when we turned the work in all of our compositions were put on display
in front of the class, one person at a time, and every single composition
was critiqued by the teacher and the whole class to see if it met the
project requirements. Relentless!

Thanks.

--Bob--


Crusher

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Nov 12, 2005, 1:59:10 PM11/12/05
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"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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No credit. OSU's Project 60 allows seniors to attend classes for free, but
without credit. Teacher will, if asked, grade the work as a courtesy, but
my name doesn't even appear on the school's class roster. Not a problem,
this is all for fun anyway. OSU charges from $650 to $1,000 per subject per
quarter to regular students for credit, and I don't need that. But I go to
every class and do every assignment just as if I were receiving credit..

I intend to draw and paint a lot this winter, consolidating what I have
learned and practice for the Figure Study class in the spring. I'll
probably do some engineering consulting work also. And sleep late- a
favorite avocation. <g>

--Bob--


Jean B.

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Nov 13, 2005, 11:11:30 AM11/13/05
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Crusher wrote:
>
> The teacher had a ton of National Geographics and I found enough other
> magazines at home to complete the assignment. Still took some time, though.
> And when we turned the work in all of our compositions were put on display
> in front of the class, one person at a time, and every single composition
> was critiqued by the teacher and the whole class to see if it met the
> project requirements. Relentless!
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Bob--
>
But it does sound like a very interesting and challenging
project. You wouldn't want a course that was totally easy,
would you? I think you would be pretty bored if that were the
case.

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Jean B.

Jean B.

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Nov 13, 2005, 11:13:50 AM11/13/05
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Crusher wrote:
>
> No credit. OSU's Project 60 allows seniors to attend classes for free, but
> without credit. Teacher will, if asked, grade the work as a courtesy, but
> my name doesn't even appear on the school's class roster. Not a problem,
> this is all for fun anyway. OSU charges from $650 to $1,000 per subject per
> quarter to regular students for credit, and I don't need that. But I go to
> every class and do every assignment just as if I were receiving credit..
>
> I intend to draw and paint a lot this winter, consolidating what I have
> learned and practice for the Figure Study class in the spring. I'll
> probably do some engineering consulting work also. And sleep late- a
> favorite avocation. <g>
>
> --Bob--
>

<g> Yes, sleeping late--or until you naturally wake up--is
wonderful. I did that just, um, today, although I am usually
up very early to get some quiet time before Leah gets up....

You sound like you have the right attitude toward school. I
like your plan for the winter.
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Jean B.

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