The Rape Case
quan...@webtv.net
Rape, or no rape?
Big bad sports star takes advantage of teen?
Or Girl run faster with dress up than man with pants down?
She didn't know he was a 'badass' when she entered that room?
Or What the hell was she doin' in there anyway?
Take yer pick, or feel to add your own conclusions. Lets solve this
thing.<g>
Q2
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Marsha
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Clouddancer
for the hotel. Employees with her job positon are restricted from going
where she did. She went on her own free will no one forced her. So why did
she go up to his hotel room unless she had plans? She knows the rules.
Clouddancer
"Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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On this one, I think I'm going with the no rape.
Arch(TX)
all wait until we get more information, like the jurors in this
case....get all the facts and arguments first, then decide in our
minds what happened.
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Arch
San Antonio, Texas
Yoj
doesn't give him the right to rape her - if he did. My gut feeling is
probably not, but, like you, I don't have enough facts. I don't think
I'd want to be on that jury.
--
Joy
In order to avoid criticism, never do anything. Ever.
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JD Cooper
Jurors?
You mean like the OJ case? hmmmmmmm......
I dunno... seems to me that the girl went into his lair free willed and
should take accountability for her own actions.
Just my opinion.
JD
DittyDu...@webtv.net
you want to hear the girl's side of it. You prolly won't hear, unless
you are on the jury, and then you will condemn the jury.
The story I heard on late late late night call in show was that the girl
is 19. She was on the front desk, whatever that means, when this joker
called up and ordered after hours room service.
Stop here. What does room service mean? I took it to mean he wanted
food. Maybe to you folks it means otherwise.
So she abandoned the desk for a few minutes to take the order up to his
room. Well, you know how they hang around a little while waiting for
their tip. If it is not forthcoming, they give up. So she said she had
to get back to the desk, and he went berserk. She told him she was
supposed to get off work at midnight, and he paid no attention.
When she finally got away, she was so confused, felt so dirty, hurt,
violated, that she went home and bathed and cried until morning, at
which time she told her mother who knew what had happened.
Not being a sports fan, I think they ought to throw the book at him. I
also think that with all his money and celebrity, he will go free. The
girl will, of course, be labeled, and a target for free booty for years,
unless she changes her name and leaves town. Whether she blundered into
the situation, or thought seeing him would be an adventure, or even
consented our of fear, I don't think she deserves the fate awaiting
her.
I am aware that the male sports fans furnish girls to the athletes for
their pleasure after winning games. If this athlete thought that was
what he had, he has to be the dumbest one of all time, and that is going
some.
Having seen some of the college girls who have been raped by college
"scholarship athletes", I know they "want what they want, and they want
it now," and think they are entitled. I never saw one yet who didn't
say it was consentual.
Blake
Dink
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Well, I wouldn't believe what you heard on late late talk radio,
nor would I believe the rumor I heard that the woman had been at
a party with friends and bragged about meeting the sports star
and described his, uh, physical apparatus.
Dink
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When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. ~~ Oscar Wilde
Marsha
to get on TV and tell all, everyone just says that's not him and although
rumor I suppose I have heard story's about her. I guess we just wait and
see.
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Marsha
my mind isn't made up
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**Dalin**
of bad in my book. And that's what he did.
Dalin
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:16:26 -0400, "Marsha" <mhuc...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Yoj
much respect for him.
--
Joy
In order to avoid criticism, never do anything. Ever.
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quan...@webtv.net
'lure' her up there. He had one hellova lot more to lose than she did.
He 'seemed' contrite about the 'adultery' (seemed scared) I thought he
was dumb for goin' on TV about it, and dumber (after seein' his wife)
for that dallying he did with a 19 yr old. He'd better have enjoyed it
(paying dearly now)
Q2
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Marsha
Marsha
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midnight talk show because it is the only story posted here in defense
of the girl. It seems to be human nature to blame the girl in all
cases. I don't think that is exactly fair.
In the case of Mike Tyson, some joker called in and said "Well, he might
have been aroused. So she . . .blah blah "
Until girls are treated like human beings instead of sex objects for
men's enjoyment, it will continue. Folks are aghast at how the Iraqi's
treat their women, but here women's freedom is used against them. I
see no logical reasoning here. But that is just how folks think. You
can't change human nature.
Blake
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Lone Star
quan...@webtv.net wrote:
There is an old sayin, "A hard swantz has no conscience...."
I don't care who this Millionare is, he betrayed his wife and wedding
vows and I hope his "Multi Million Dollar Sponsors" drop his ass like a
Hot Potato. He needs to join the Unemployment line and find a real job.
Robert( I hate basketball cause White Men can't Jump)
:-)
Lone Star
DittyDu...@webtv.net wrote:
> I merely put up the conversation some person from Colo. said on a
> midnight talk show because it is the only story posted here in defense
> of the girl. It seems to be human nature to blame the girl in all
> cases. I don't think that is exactly fair.
>
> In the case of Mike Tyson, some joker called in and said "Well, he might
> have been aroused. So she . . .blah blah "
> Until girls are treated like human beings instead of sex objects for
> men's enjoyment, it will continue. Folks are aghast at how the Iraqi's
> treat their women, but here women's freedom is used against them. I
> see no logical reasoning here. But that is just how folks think. You
> can't change human nature.
> Blake
Mike Tyson is a Disgrace to all races. He is a thug and a raper.
Robert :-(
quan...@webtv.net
"There is an old sayin, "A hard swantz has no conscience...." <snip>
Amen to that brother. Reminds me of a story, goes like this:
A young woman, and an older man are walkin' along a string of stores.
They come upon a furrier. The young lady pointing to a fur in the window
says:
"I like that one, and in bed last night, you promised to buy me one"
He says: "Holy shit baby, I was just about to shoot my load when you
said 'fur coat'.
I wasn't talkin' (points to crotch) HE WAS" <G>
not bad for a 'sight' joke......
Q2
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Marian
Marian
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Clouddancer
committed. As time goes by the story keeps changing some. Something
happened. Enough of something that he had to admit to adultery and thus
gave his wife an 8 million dollar purple diamond ring to say I'm sorry. To
me he's lost with the trust issue in his marriage. No big huge diamond can
fix that. He has to earn it back. I feel the poor girl really did lose
more. It never ends with girls when it comes to this kind of situation.
Often she will be trashed over and over. Being he's a big celebrity amongst
basketball players talk has it he'll get what's coming to him. The courts
will use him as an example. Time will tell. As it stands everyone is
innocent till the jury proves otherwise. I see this as another huge money
maker for both attorney's in the case. Then comes the book deal and maybe a
movie.
Clouddancer
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Sounds much like it too me you've made up your mind, I gave an opinion but
my mind isn't made up.
quan...@webtv.net
your print so teeny tiny? I havta get real close to my screen (it's my
big TV too) just to see what you've written. I don't wanna be a cry baby
or anything like that, and it is YOUR choice, but Lord, it's like you're
whispering :) (a little net humor) It's OK to tell me to 'bag it' if you
wanna, honest.
Your friend, your buddy, your pal..Q.
sick kiss ass whiner that i am.......<g>
Q2
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Marian
problem for you? I don't set the font for the ng as I do for e-mails...
Marian
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Clouddancer
is coming from webtv. I've never seen your print teeny tiny.
Clouddancer
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quan...@webtv.net
that post. The Web folks can go from very small, like yours, to very big
(like in caps) with just a selection on the Web FAQ page.
Thanks. You do a nice job with your posts, and I like your perfume. <g>
Q2
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DittyDu...@webtv.net
be webtv. I can't read the captions on your comics, either. Your type
changed a year or two ago from being the same size as everyone else's.
Blake
DittyDu...@webtv.net
not have been accused of rape in the first place.
There is a lot of difference between seduction and rape. Blake
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quan...@webtv.net
oh, david's is small ? i handn't noticed..<bfg>
Q2
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Marian
No offense taken, mon petit choux. Dint know it, Q, but I've been saving this
article just for your sweet self. Marian
It's Stupidity, Stupid: You Can Look It Up
July 5, 2003 ~ By EMILY EAKIN
Along with the shag haircut and platform shoes, imbecility
was hip in 1970's London. There, in 1976, a journalist
named Stephen Pile founded the Not Terribly Good Club of
Great Britain. The admission requirement was simple:
incompetence. Meetings consisted of individual
demonstrations driving home the point (displays of
ineptitude at small talk, batik, art-making, etc.). At the
club's kickoff event - a meal at a hand-picked, third-rate
restaurant - Mr. Pile made the mistake of catching a soup
tureen midfall. For this blatant display of adroitness, he
was instantly demoted.
Mr. Pile went on to write "The Incomplete Book of Failures"
about the club and the trait it sought to honor. A catalog
of notable imbecility, including "the worst tourist" (a man
who spent two days in New York believing he was in Rome),
and the "slowest solution of a crossword" (34 years), the
book also featured a membership application form for the
Not Terribly Good Club.
As a result the club's numbers swelled. After the book
appeared in 1979 (complete with a two-page erratum slip),
the organization received 20,000 applications in two
months. An incontestable success, the club was in violation
of its commitment to failure, and under the terms of its
own bylaws had to be disbanded.
Today imbecility seems to be making a comeback, and the
success of the <object.title class="Movie" idsrc="nyt_ttl"
value="133562">"Dumb and Dumber"</object.title> movies
isn't the only evidence. Consider a 46-year-old lapsed
academic named Matthijs van Boxsel who has been campaigning
full time on imbecility's behalf in the Netherlands for the
last five years. In 1999 he published "The Encyclopedia of
Stupidity." The book was an unexpected success. Mr. van
Boxsel became a sought-after figure on the local lecture
circuit, and avid fans went on to found stupidity clubs in
Amsterdam and Groningen, where, he says, members "give
accounts of their own stupidity and try to outwit each
other."
Now American readers can see what the fuss is about: "The
Encyclopedia of Stupidity" has been translated into English
and has just been published by Reaktion Books. An
illustrated hodgepodge of ruminations, anecdotes, aphorisms
and esoterica, the book attacks its subject obliquely,
spinning a theory of stupidity while cataloging its
sightings.
Foolish science? Mr. van Boxsel cites research on "the
effect of side winds on arithmetic sums," "the specific
gravity of a kiss" and "the surface of God." Or consider
what he describes as the "explosive mix of stupidity and
intelligence" on display in recent technological advances:
filters for water purification that turn out to be breeding
grounds for bacteria; suntan lotions that cause skin cancer
and cushioned running shoes designed to protect the knees
but at the expense of increasing stress on the hips.
Mr. van Boxsel devotes two pages to darwinawards.com, a Web
site honoring those "who improve our gene pool . . . by
removing themselves from it." Recent laureates include a
"bungee jumper who had gauged the length of his rope
against the depth of the gorge, but forgot that the rope
was made of elastic," and the leader of a Christian sect in
Los Angeles who died after slipping on a bar of soap while
trying to walk, Christ-like, on the water in his bathtub.
But Mr. van Boxsel is hardly mocking such lethal
haplessness. "On the one hand, stupidity poses a daily
threat to civilization," he writes. "On the other it
constitutes the mystical foundation of our existence. For
if man was not to fall victim to his own stupidity, he had
to develop his intelligence." Or as he put it in a
telephone interview from his home in Amsterdam, "Stupidity
is the engine that drives our society."
This is his most insistent point: stupidity is not the same
as a lack of intelligence - though precisely what it is is
not always clear. "It's a quality all its own," he said.
"It's unwitting self-destruction, the ability to act
against one's best wishes with death as the most extreme
consequence. And it's a typically human talent."
On this last point, novelists seem to agree with him.
Rabelais, Cervantes and Sterne were fascinated by
imbeciles. And Flaubert devoted a sprawling novel to
stupidity: "Bouvard and Pécuchet." Unfinished at his death,
it featured two retired clerks who embark on a disastrous
quest to assimilate the world's entire supply of knowledge.
Constantly thwarted by their own poor judgment and
ineptitude, they eventually concede defeat. "They acquire a
faculty deserving of pity," Flaubert explained. "They
recognize stupidity but can no longer tolerate it."
And in 1937, a year before the Anschluss, the Austrian
writer Robert Musil gave a lecture in Vienna titled "On
Stupidity," in which he described "higher stupidity" as a
sophisticated and ubiquitous "disease of the mind that
endangers life itself."
Nor is Mr. van Boxsel the only one theorizing on the
subject today. In November the English publisher Gibson
Square Books will publish "The Dictionary of Idiocy," by
Stephen Bayley, a historian of design in London. Inspired
by Flaubert's "Dictionary of Received Ideas," which was
published as an appendix to "Bouvard and Pécuchet," Mr.
Bayley said the book (whose title was changed to avoid
confusion with Mr. van Boxsel's work) is a catalog of
foolish opinions on topics ranging from beards and Italian
food to accountants and abstract art.
"You have to be terribly intelligent to be aware of what
stupidity is," he explained by telephone from his home in
London.
But of stupidity's commentators past and present, Mr. van
Boxsel stands out for his exalted view of the phenomenon.
Stupidity, he suggests, is motivating. Without it, we would
have little in the way of progress, success or
civilization, which in his contrarian view is nothing more
than "a series of more or less abortive attempts to come to
grips with the self-destructive folly found in all
countries and at all times."
It's a theory that seems borne out by Mr. van Boxsel's
career. He has managed to turn an inauspicious topic into a
source of stable employment - and modest renown. His second
book on stupidity, "Morosofie," a compendium of 100 absurd
theories by modern Dutch thinkers, appeared in 2000. His
third, "The Topography of Stupidity," a catalog of European
cities and provinces known for their stupidity, is nearing
completion. And he says he plans four more: on stupidity
and theology, stupidity and sex, stupidity and the economy,
and stupidity and art.
"Of the people like me, who are spending most of their life
on stupidity," he said cheerfully, "I guess I'm the only
one living off it. I'm the only one living off my own
stupidity."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/05/arts/05STUP.html?ex=1058448364&ei=1&en=f
8d3e0343862e714
Marian
laptop, Blake. Just bolded and increased the font size. Does it help?
Can you see *this* cartoon?
http://www.uclick.com/client/nyt/db/2003/07/27/index.html
Gee, you shoulda said something before now... Marian
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Marian
>Jurors?
>
>You mean like the OJ case? hmmmmmmm......
>
>I dunno... seems to me that the girl went into his lair free willed and
>should take accountability for her own actions.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>JD
Too right. Getting raped was her own fault.
You never disappoint, JD. Your opinion is always firmly in the Dark Ages like
the stereotypical Texan you are...
Marian
Marian
Marian
>Marian your font on my end is just perfect for reading. I think the problem
>is coming from webtv. I've never seen your print teeny tiny.
>Clouddancer
>I have no idea, Q. No one else has ever mentioned it. No other's type is a
>problem for you? I don't set the font for the ng as I do for e-mails...
>
> Marian
>
>M, I don't wanna break stride here, but can I ask you a question? Why is
>your print so teeny tiny? I havta get real close to my screen (it's my
>big TV too) just to see what you've written. I don't wanna be a cry baby
>or anything like that, and it is YOUR choice, but Lord, it's like you're
>whispering :) (a little net humor) It's OK to tell me to 'bag it' if you
>wanna, honest.
>Your friend, your buddy, your pal..Q.
>sick kiss ass whiner that i am.......<g>
>
>Q2
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JD Cooper
In the first place, we do not know if she was or was not raped. In the
second case she should be held accountable for her own stupidity first.
I am sick of pathetic "victim ideology" of which you are a fervent
subscriber. According to your dogma, EVERYBODY is a victim of
*something* and nobody can be responsible for their own actions.
JD
JD
DittyDu...@webtv.net
The cartoons look crisp and brilliant. But I still have trouble reading
the balloons. I can read some words, and others blur.
I get Doonsbury in my newspaper. It's the only reason I subscribe when
I go out of town. If you _really_ want to know what is going on, try
midnight radio and Doonsbury.
The type on my copied letter looked smaller, too.
Blake
Marian
Oh well. I appreciate your efforts, Blake.
Marian
Judy Marrs
agree with you on the adultery...I realize that in the legal system adultery
isn't a crime a person will serve time for, but what goes around comes
around...he has destroyed his image, his relationship with his wife whether
she admits it or not after betrayal things are never never the same...voice
of experience.
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download...how do you get on a newsgroup with webtv if you can't
download...or am I wrong about these groups being downloaded?
Judith
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asking about downloading? She can get a printer and print anything
important, instead of downloading, or she can save it. These rigs do
have their limitations. INstant messenger can't talk to AOLrs, fr
instance.
Blake
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Marian
newsgroups can be downloaded...
Marian
>Does she need instructions on how to get on the group, or are you just
>asking about downloading? She can get a printer and print anything
>important, instead of downloading, or she can save it. These rigs do
>have their limitations. INstant messenger can't talk to AOLrs, fr
>instance.
>Blake
>---------------------
>jma...@myspeedworks.com (Judy=A0Marrs)
>My cousin has webtv and says she can do everything with it but
>download...how do you get on a newsgroup with webtv if you can't
>download...or am I wrong about these groups being downloaded?
>Judith
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her, using webtv since I know nothing about it...she would really enjoy news
groups if she could participate...
Judith
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