so disappointed
Janie
doing my artwork. I'm not entering next year though. It's gotten so
political, it's no fun entering anymore. The picture that won came from
a kit and it's supposed to be original art, nothing with instructions.
But there's a little clique, as always. The picture that should have won
I thought was one a man did of birds. It was absolutely stunning.
Janie
--
"...Our hearts are broken, but they still beat..."
Rudolph Giuliani
Clouddancer
entered and let those in the NG be the judges. BTW how did David do?
Didn't he enter something.
Clouddancer
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Janie
supposed to be "original" art, art the person did themselves with their
own supplies. It's supposed to have no instruction, nothing from a kit.
Anyway, my poor art has to sit there for 2 weeks until the Fair is over.
Then, I'll take some pics of it and send it to people who would like o
see them. They were so disorganized this year that some of the slips
with our names and addresses showed, another no-no.
Like I told them, this wasn't about blue ribbons, this was about art.
Most artists, like myself, take their work very seriously. A true artist
puts a lot of "themselves" into their work. They should have at least
been displayed in a professional manner. I saw framed work on the floor,
standing up against the exhibition wall.
Whoever organized it probably was not an artist because artwork is part
of a person. I sure didn't appreciate having something I worked on for
weeks leaning lopsided against a wall.
But, it's just the Fair, not a big deal. Oh, and the other thing, we
always used to get big blue ribbons. The ones that won blue ribbons this
year got ones that couldn't have been more then 2 inches long and one
inch wide.
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> How do you know it came from a kit?
> "Janie" <mb...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3DAE1E8...@attbi.com...
>
Janie
and have watched it go from huge exhibition halls of some of the most
wonderful art you have ever seen to this one small little area that
grows smaller each year. I really don't care if I win a Blue Ribbon or
not though it's nice when I do. It's just a little hard working so hard
on my things and seeing someone win with something that took maybe an
hour to do. And it's not just my things. There were many more things
much more deserving of winning then what I did.
I realize it's done by volunteers and I think most of them aren't
artists, so I don't blame them. It's just that this was the worst
exhibition I have ever seen. It didn't help that there is a lot of
construct going on there so, things were kind of turned around for the
Fair on whole.
I've just done this for so many years, it's sad to see what it's come
to. But, it's certainly not the end of the world. But, I don't plan on
entering next year. It's a lot of work just to see it getting worse each
year. I liked winning, of course, but what I liked most was seeing so
much wonderful art, all original, in one place. There was hardly
anything this year.
It certainly isn't going to stop me from doing my art. I just love doing
it. And, when I get the pics back, I will post pics of it. I entered 8
things this year.
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> I realize your disappointed but isn't the idea the thrill you get out of
> doing this. All things today are political and most of the people that do
> this are volunteers, not everyone knows what goes into things they don't do,
> I wouldn't know if someone did it from a kit or not. As long as your
> satisfied with your work so what if you didn't get a blue ribbon, it doesn't
> make your work any less, the blur ribbon doesn't do anything anyway. Just be
> happy that you can do this and your family likes it.
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Janie
to stay there the length of the Fair. But at least it will be easier
posting them now that I have my new digital camera.
I'm working on a drawing now...I'll post it when I'm done.
Janie
Sue wrote:
> Good idea, Cloudy. We would all like to see those pictures.
> sue
>
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Graham
No big deal, a drawing of yours is hanging on my lounge wall, (in by
coincidence, a blue frame to match the wall colour) so you will always be a
winner in Friesland. For those interested it is a drawing of Cheryle I asked
Jane to make for me when I was decorating the lounge.
Graham
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Janie
I'm drawing. I'm just grumbling a little about the Fair.
For those of you who aren't artists (but I believe everyone has an
artist in them), if an artist gives you something they drew, painted,
made, whatever, they are giving you are part of "themselves". So, when
the picture I had done was sitting lopsided on the wall, that meant I
was lopsided. lol
I don't enter many art shows though I plan to do more. I have seen
artists get quite upset if a person even takes a picture of something
they have done. The person may have taken the picture out of admiration
but most artists take great offense if you take a picture or if you copy
their art.
Janie
faith
the computer and post away. :-)
Janie
going back .....ain't gonna pay 7$ to go back in what they tried to call
a Fair this year. I can't get my stuff til it's over.
It's just so sad. It used to be so wonderful. There used to be so many
Halloween and Christmas crafts. There were NONE this year. It used to be
you could spend hours just looking at the beautiful things people made.
This time, it took maybe 15 minutes. It was just so disappointing
because, like all cities, we have so many wonderful artists.
Al went "shhhhh" when I walked in because I said, "You mean to tell me
THIS is it?" lol
I realize all this stuff is done by volunteers so I have no room to
complain. There is no entry fee or anything. I just remember what it was
like so many years ago and it's just a shadow of what it use to be. And
I don't want to volunteer. I just want to put my art in the art show. I
think the good years were when the volunteers were artists. Now, they
are well meaning people who just don't know what it means to people.
Janie
Yoj
could all see it?
--
Joy
Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him
up
depends on the stuff he's made of. --Josh Billings
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Toddy
:-((
toddy
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Clouddancer
much is going on around the world and here at home that people get caught up
in it and busy themselves with other things in life. Then too it sounded
like your fair had some construction going on. I know that detours people
from coming. By next year you will have forgotten how it was this year and
will try again. It's always worth the risk. If everyone took your attitude
and didn't enter there would be nothing much for anyone to see. How about
you take the months ahead and come up with something to knock them out with
next year. I'm sure you can do it. All of us will be looking forward to
your pictures. Didn't you use your digital camera?
Clouddancer
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Oh, I'm not that upset. But, I have been entering my art work for years and
have watched it go from huge exhibition halls of some of the most wonderful
art you have ever seen to this one small little area that grows smaller each
year. I really don't care if I win a Blue Ribbon or not though it's nice
when I do. It's just a little hard working so hard on my things and seeing
someone win with something that took maybe an hour to do. And it's not just
my things. There were many more things
much more deserving of winning then what I did.. I realize it's done by
Clouddancer
you took a picture of it so all of us could see it. You would think people
would know the rules and follow them.
Clouddancer
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Janie
things until I get them back at the end of the Fair. I don't want to pay
7$ to go back in and do do now that I have my digital camera. But I will
as soon as I get my pics back.
Janie
Janie
they put more emphasis on the animals and rides then anything. I have
suggested so many time they have the paper come out at least every other
year and see if they'd do an article on the arts and crafts but that has
never been done.
I work too hard on my art just to have it sat on the floor propped up
lopsided. This just isn't the Fairs main area of interest and it's just
gotten too discouraging to me now. I don't want to enter anymore work if
all the artists there are not taken more seriously.
And I worked all year on my stuff, all original. I'm not mad I didn't
win a Blue ribbon. There have been years I haven't. That's normal. I'm
just disappointed in what I saw. Nothing I have ever said or done makes
a difference.
So, I'll just find something else to do with my artwork.
Janie
NHunkele
Fair, you get in for free.
Norma
Janie
Janie
Janie
front of the display ( I should be typing displays but there was only
one display wall this year). David's picture was only 4x6. Standing as
close as I could get, I would not have known what it was if I did not
know it was the picture he had taken. You could barely tell it was a
picture of a dog.
I looked at him and said nothing but I saw his face fall.
When I was in elementary school, that's when they used to "grade" art.
Well, I'm the artist in my family. My twin sister is more into
journalism and does not draw or paint She's into genealogy. Anyway, I
remember being excited all weekend about how my picture would do in this
little art fair we had at school. I got a C-. My sister got an A. I
still remember how that felt because art is part of a person. That said
I was a C- minus person to me and my sister was an A.
Finally, people began to realize that you can not grade a persons art
because that's labeling a person. And I know that my son's picture,
placed so far away, on the floor, where you could barely tell what it
was said something to him. I explained to him he should not take it
personally, that this was done by well meaning volunteers, probably not
artists, who didn't realize that made a statement.
The fact they placed any picture on the floor told me that the well
meaning volunteers were not artists because an artist would generally
never display framed art on the floor unless it was in a big, beautiful
frame. And yes, I have seen artwork placed like this before in art
galleries and shows but that's because that person knew and it was ok
with them, I'm sure.
David was ok about it but it's funny how childhood things come back to
you. I saw that picture, saw his face and remembered my C-. lol He's Ok
about it and wants to enter more but larger pics next year.
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> Well if it's more agricultural then I guess that is the main thing of the
> fair and the arts and crafts are secondary. Don't you have any other
> festivals around that sponsor arts and crafts? You never did say how David
> did in the fair.
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Janie
to them and they have been very nice. They argue that art is art and has
to be judged as so. True. But a professional artist should never have to
compete with an amateur artist. When I said that, I think they realized
their mistake.
A professional artist is either a natural born artist or an artistic
person who has gone to school or taken classes and worked very very hard
on their art.
An amateur artist is someone who likes art but hasn't worked very hard
on it. It's an affront to a professional artist to hold their works up
to an amateur artists work and declare the amateur better.
In Washington, at the Smithsonian Art Gallery, they have a whole display
of 18th century "Naive" art work. These are works done by people back in
the that era that saw the works of the Masters and believed they could
do the same thing because they too loved art. When you see this amazing
art, there is no shading, lighting, one arm might be longer then
another, a cow might be bigger then the barn.....amateur art. It IS art
in every sense of the word. But it can not be compared to natural and
professional art. It is in a class of it's own. It is not BAD art
because no art is bad. But it has it's own class. Amateurs should
compete with amateurs, professionals with professionals.
I consider myself professional because I have worked very hard on
learning my art. But there are professionals so much better then me,
THEY are in a different class and should not have to compete with me.
They are either natural or have gone to art schools and colleges or had
well known teachers. My pictures can't begin to compare to theirs.
I know many of you have heard of Thomas Kincaid. Well, I KNOW it would
be an affront to him to have one of my pictures win over his. He is a
natural artist who works very very hard on his gorgeous art. I could
only HOPE to be as good as he is.
So, they didn't have "classes" and an amateur won over hardworking
professionals. That was their mistake.
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> We have an arts and crafts festival here for two days, the first full
> weekend in Nov. We wait every year for this. Of course the people come from
> all around and pay for their booths. An Art festival has just started for
> local people and others and I think their first festival will be in March,
> right on the main strip as the one is now.
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professionals. I think what happened is that they decided that people in
the art world should not judge. I think they got people who don't do a
lot of artwork to judge, thinking they might be more objective.
But, like I just e-mailed them, they sure have a lot to learn about
artists. They have been very nice, as have I. I wouldn't want the one
who won Best of Show to feel bad about this. Hers was picked and that
was that.
But they sure bungled this one this year! lol
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> Then your in the wrong competition Janie, it's a fair, not the same as an
> art gallery, there is no competition between the two. Arts and crafts are
> just that. I used to do arts and crafts make all sort of stuff, some sold
> but most were for myself, that is a different kind of art than what you do.
> At most of these fairs or festivals I go to are arts and crafts, like 4H,
> you should get into an art festival like what we will be doing here in
> March. It's pottery, art paintings, jewelry all made by the person and not a
> kit.
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NHunkele
>But they used to have one side for amateurs and one side for
>professionals. I think what happened is that they decided that people in
>the art world should not judge. I think they got people who don't do a
>lot of artwork to judge, thinking they might be more objective.
>But, like I just e-mailed them, they sure have a lot to learn about
>artists. They have been very nice, as have I. I wouldn't want the one
>who won Best of Show to feel bad about this. Hers was picked and that
>was that.
>But they sure bungled this one this year! lol
>Janie
Janile, an oil that took a blue ribbon at the Topsfield Fair was about 18 x 24
in a narrow, dark wood frame. It was a background of dark olive green. In the
lower right quadrant was a gray diamond atop a black rod. Go figure. It was
something I would not have looked at twice were it not for the blue ribbon.
Norma
Janie
eye of the beholder. I was just put out because I don't think
professional artists should have to compete with artwork from a kit,
where you have all the supplies and step by step directions. That's
crafting, which can also be considered art, etc, etc. etc. lol
But I'm not entering my original one of a kind art work I work so hard
on if art work from kits can beat me out. We artists are a funny lot. lol
Janie
Janie
The beholder in this competition saw this as the best piece of art
there. And you can not argue with a judge. It's like a
circle...infinity....I saw artwork there that I felt should have beat me
out, it was so much better then mine. But that's the way IIIII looked at
it.
Bottomline, it can't be judged but it is and we know it is getting
judged yet we enter anyway then we get mad if it is judged UNLESS WE
WON! lol
Janie
Marsha wrote:
> Maybe they feel artists shouldn't be judged because they are the
> professionals compared to the others.
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