I was painting.........
Toddy
needed doing a different colour.... at least a year ago !!
Today was cold but sunny and I had done too much Braille (I was seeing dots
in front of my eyes <g>) so I decided today was the day.
The colour is a very pale blue.... almost white. The surface is textured to
hide lots of imperfections.
Well, the long and short of it is that I didn't have enough paint, had to go
for more, forgot the colour, had to return to check the name of the
colour........ and needed about twice the recommended amount because of the
texturing.
Now that I am completely covered in paint, and the job is done, I am a happy
camper <g>
Peter used to wonder how I managed to get so much on me rather than the
walls..... no wonder I need the extra tin !!
Last time I did this job I was roundly ticked off by a plumber friend of
mine for standing on the loo itself to reach up..... it is made of ceramic
and would have done me a serious damage had it shattered... this time I
coped with the ladder!
Obedient Toddy, with a whitish patch on my backside <g>
Jean B.
Now, aren't the results gratifying? I like the idea of texturized
paint and will have to try to keep that in mind. How hard was it
for you to select a color? I'd imagine a bathroom MIGHT be easier
than some other rooms--unless you already have some color (or
colour <g>) scheme for your towels, curtains, etc.
--
Jean B.
Toddy
walls. I would never do so again.
It catches you unexpectedly and is very rough !!
It also uses up a huge amount of paint, not only to apply, but to cover up
as well........ and those scratchy bits remain :-(
I inherited this loo, a toilet in its own little room, with a yellow loo,
blue and white tiles on the floor, mosaic 1970's style, and the most
disgusting HUGE blue roses on the wall paper, that had been put there to
hide 'stuff'.
Then....... I had to have the plumbing redone, because the hot water pipes
had corroded, and while having them done, it seemed sensible to have the
whole lot done............so I had a patch of plaster work on the wall that
was left there until I could decided to get moving on it.
So I painted the walls this yellow textured colour........... it didn't look
too bad until the patch of plaster got there <g>
The loo itself is still yellow, but I can live with that <lol>
Toddy
Anyway it is gone now, ad the whole thing is clean and fresh and new-looking
:-(
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Val Adams
bedroom, almost 2 months now, 2 or 3 sq ft at a time, texturizing with
joint-compound, on purpose...ahh, but if it works...
Jean B.
> Jean, I used the textured paint to cover up the terrible plaster work on the
> walls. I would never do so again.
> It catches you unexpectedly and is very rough !!
> It also uses up a huge amount of paint, not only to apply, but to cover up
> as well........ and those scratchy bits remain :-(
> I inherited this loo, a toilet in its own little room, with a yellow loo,
> blue and white tiles on the floor, mosaic 1970's style, and the most
> disgusting HUGE blue roses on the wall paper, that had been put there to
> hide 'stuff'.
> Then....... I had to have the plumbing redone, because the hot water pipes
> had corroded, and while having them done, it seemed sensible to have the
> whole lot done............so I had a patch of plaster work on the wall that
> was left there until I could decided to get moving on it.
> So I painted the walls this yellow textured colour........... it didn't look
> too bad until the patch of plaster got there <g>
> The loo itself is still yellow, but I can live with that <lol>
> Toddy
>
>
> Anyway it is gone now, ad the whole thing is clean and fresh and new-looking
> :-(
It still sounds like that texturized paint has its uses--along
with its drawbacks. My downstairs bathroom and hall are pretty
disgusting--a most dingy brownish-yellow. (Why anyone would use
such a color is beyond me.) I suppose they'll have to be
repainted--and even sooner if we decide to sell. The hall does
have some areas that might or might not benefit from texturized
paint--probably not though. I guess that's a good thing. I
gather this would only work for MINOR issues.
Anyway, it sounds like a job well done--even though you found it
less than pleasant using that paint.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> Well done! I can hardly believe I am STILL creeping across the walls of
> the bedroom, almost 2 months now, 2 or 3 sq ft at a time, texturizing
> with joint-compound, on purpose...ahh, but if it works...
>
Um, OTOH, I don't think I'd want to do that. Egad! More power to
you, Val.
--
Jean B.
Toddy
up the mess.
What sort of stuff are you using, Val ?
The paint I used today was plain old acrylic washable stuff, but I needed
LOTS of it !!
I have just had a look at the 'finished' job... I have some areas to re-do,
bits of yellow shining through...... <g>
I love the look of texture gained by cross brushing so that the brush
strokes give an illusion of texture.
Toddy
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Linda1
Linda1
>Subject: Re: I was painting.........
>From: "Toddy" tod...@q-net.net.au
>Date: 6/19/2004 10:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <2jj1ccF...@uni-berlin.de>
Toddy
tomorrow...... if I can get going again <g>
Toddy
"Linda1 " <lmcco...@aol.com.pu.com> wrote in message
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Jo
::winkwink:: painting and all) but I DO know you could be giving yourself a
good workout as well on your body so take care and do not hurt yourself!...Jo
;)
Val Adams
> My yellow paint had some sort of sand in it to make the texture that covered
> up the mess.
> What sort of stuff are you using, Val ?
> The paint I used today was plain old acrylic washable stuff, but I needed
> LOTS of it !!
> I have just had a look at the 'finished' job... I have some areas to re-do,
> bits of yellow shining through...... <g>
> I love the look of texture gained by cross brushing so that the brush
> strokes give an illusion of texture.
> Toddy
[VE!....]
joint compound- not what it sounds like (mores the pity <g>) just a thinnish
plaster wash, put on in bumps and dips, hoping for an aeyrie effect when I
finally add color; sky blue wash is what is planned. Technique works in
miniature, dont know if it will in full size. What is taking so long is room is
10x15 with a 9 foot ceiling, and I am 5'9", 64, and hate ladders. So I do a
little one day, take the next day off to unkink muscles & nerves, work another
day, and so on; when life, the universe and everything dont intervene to screw
up the detail.
Baaa-aa-ah!
Huguette
around ducks and reed .... Huguette
"Toddy" <tod...@q-net.net.au> a écrit dans le message de
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patch some areas joined to the rest of the walls that have some kind of
texture paint on them. The paint that it has to join is about as thick
as one sixteenth of an inch. The bare area is sheetrock. I have been
wondering what is the best way to do it. A man told me to make a cleen
straight line cut, instead of the random pattern now there. Seems to
me, it would be less noticeable with the random edges. I tried sanding
the edges, but it didn't work. I thought about putting spackling paste
along the edges, but haven't tried it. I though I'd better put a first
coat, so the other stuff would have something to stick to. I hadn't
thought of joint compound. I guess the texture might be different. It
is an area beneath double windows plus about a 2X3 area on the opposite
wall. How are you making your texture? Do you paint it on? Would a
stippling brush create the texture then?
Blake
------------------
Jean B.
> Mine is bleu too, with shells here and there and on the door I painted all
> around ducks and reed .... Huguette
You gals are so clever. And speaking of shells, where's Janie?
--
Jean B.
Toddy
Thanks for the hugs :-)
I am very stiff today, just not at all used to climbing ladders!
Luckily the extra bits I have to do are not that bad. They do show up though
in today's sunshine...... so I am just getting up the energy to open the
tin. The brush and tin are in the right place, I just have to decide to get
on with it!
Toddy, enjoying a coffee<g>
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Toddy
<g>
This is a tiny room I did y'day, and it only took me 3 hours, including
washing down the walls and going out to get more paint......LOL
Good luck with your texturing !
Toddy
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Toddy
It sounds very pretty.
Toddy
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Jo
on with it!
Toddy, enjoying a coffee<g>
Well if you're anything like most women-we can't stand UNfinished work(unlike
we hear women complain about some men and "their" projects! lol!)...so I know
you'll get it all done...and feel good that it IS done! ;)..........Jo
Toddy
Just off for another coffee, after all it did take me year to get around to
this job <g>
Toddy
" Jo" <jos...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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Jo
bigger stones and THIS time do the job right so it won't cause any
problems...hope to do that project in the fall-have too many other things to do
now....Jo
Toddy
Maybe next year !
It looks OK now:-)
Toddy, with paint all over my hands and shoes, (flip flops)... and yes, I
did have to get that ^%#$@4% ladder out again !!
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Yoj
--
Joy ;-)
The best way to get even is to forget...
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Toddy
with a second coat, I think it is OK at the moment.. maybe next year!!
Toddy
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Jo
Toddy, with paint all over my hands and shoes, (flip flops)... and yes, I>did
have to get that ^%#$@4% ladder out again !!
Oh my, Toddy, get cleaned up and get some rest! A new coating can wait intil
next time...Jo ;)
Toddy
Thanks for confirming I did the right thing <g>
Toddy
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Jo
That is what I decided, Jo !!
Thanks for confirming I did the right thing <g>
Toddy
........
Oh, I know you can probably run circles around me but we'd hate to hear you so
worn out, you couldn't write us here!..Jo lol!...::winkwinwk::: ;)
Toddy
I would miss coming in here each day though ..... and several times a day
<g>
Toddy
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Val Adams
> Val, is it just regular joint compound thinned with water? I have to
> patch some areas joined to the rest of the walls that have some kind of
> texture paint on them. The paint that it has to join is about as thick
> as one sixteenth of an inch. The bare area is sheetrock. I have been
> wondering what is the best way to do it. A man told me to make a cleen
> straight line cut, instead of the random pattern now there. Seems to
> me, it would be less noticeable with the random edges. I tried sanding
> the edges, but it didn't work. I thought about putting spackling paste
> along the edges, but haven't tried it. I though I'd better put a first
> coat, so the other stuff would have something to stick to. I hadn't
> thought of joint compound. I guess the texture might be different. It
> is an area beneath double windows plus about a 2X3 area on the opposite
> wall. How are you making your texture? Do you paint it on? Would a
> stippling brush create the texture then?
> Blake
>
>
yes, just regular joint compound; doesnt need water unless I leave the lid off
too long on a dry day, is inherently thinner than regular spackle. If you fill
the actual holes with either, it sounds like the paint itself is thick enough to
cover small defects, that is one reason for the popularity of textured paints in
older houses, to cover small imperfections. The war over straight vs irregular
edges is as long and involved as over or under, and about as easy to resolve; I
myself prefer irregular on small patches, straight edge & joint tape on large
ones; but is a judgement call only you can make, what best makes the ding
dissappear into the ground for your vision. As for the texturing, depends what
kind you got to match. Have used stipple, mascara, tooth and scrub brushes for
effects, also sifted garden dirt (baked at 350 for an hour), ordinary white
play-yard sand, and, in a moment of insanity, a fibrous compound sold for the
purpose which worked no better and cost four times as much.
I am (giggle, giggle, bweh,heh,heh,heh..) smearing the stuff on with my hands;
not a recommended technique for ordinary patching purposes but I am actually
Trying for mounds and irregularities not normally welcome in a good job. If you
do try that, I suggest rubber gloves, there is a lot of lime in the stuff which
some folk are sensitive to on their skin.
Val in Socal; wondering if sheepskin would make a good texturing tool....
(BLEEEET!)
Val Adams
> You seem to be taking a very proper attitude to something that needs doing
> <g>
> This is a tiny room I did y'day, and it only took me 3 hours, including
> washing down the walls and going out to get more paint......LOL
> Good luck with your texturing !
> Toddy
>
tanks, will do pix if I ever get the beastly thing done...
Toddy
<g>
Toddy
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Toddy
I'd love to see it finished... or even a little bit of it !
Toddy
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Jo
I don't try to run circles around anyone Jo !!
Good! I know I need to do so and so around the home-just not anxious to get
to it and do it! lol!...had an inkling of energy awhile back to do some spring
cleaning but the spring has now sprung! ;)...Jo
Val Adams
> I use a sheepskin roller to apply smooth paint.... so I'd leave that alone
> <g>
> Toddy
>
>>
>>(BLEEEET!)
>>
>
>
>
BLEEEET!BLEEEET!BLEEEET! Hardeefishul sheepeezkin, Ve opink!
Toddy
Toddy
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Toddy
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DittyDu...@webtv.net
where water got in long ago. I have the joints to fix, but it is not a
huge place. I think I can do that with tape etc. Always had someone
else to do it before a few years ago, when I tackled a small hole, and
fixed it ok.
So this time, water got under the textured paint, and it flakec off in
big pieces. I thought I would try it. You helped a lot.
I chloroxed the mildew, small patches, and wiped down the rest. Do you
think I will need to paint first? I still have to seal the joint where
the dry wall was replaced. I have always had to paint 2 coats over
that, but this is the first textured paint I have had to deal with. I
might try white sand. It looks like the old stuccoed walls of my
childhood, but that is seldom used here. I think it will blend ok if I
just use the same color from the same dealer, but who knows? It won't
show much under two windows. The opposite side is low, where furniture
will probly cover it anyway.
I am encouraged by your advice. NO sheepeez wool! My grandmother knew
how to card and comb and spin, among other lost arts. Sheepeez wool is
for padding quilts.
Blake
--------------------
DittyDu...@webtv.net
-----------------
tod...@q-net.net.au (Toddy)
Toddy
I only just understood that I am a good Aussie sheepee<vbg>
I knew that !!
Toddy<lol>
Val Adams
> Thanks, Val. I am new to this process. I got the dry wall replaced
> where water got in long ago. I have the joints to fix, but it is not a
> huge place. I think I can do that with tape etc. Always had someone
> else to do it before a few years ago, when I tackled a small hole, and
> fixed it ok.
>
> So this time, water got under the textured paint, and it flakec off in
> big pieces. I thought I would try it. You helped a lot.
> I chloroxed the mildew, small patches, and wiped down the rest. Do you
> think I will need to paint first? I still have to seal the joint where
> the dry wall was replaced. I have always had to paint 2 coats over
> that, but this is the first textured paint I have had to deal with. I
> might try white sand. It looks like the old stuccoed walls of my
> childhood, but that is seldom used here. I think it will blend ok if I
> just use the same color from the same dealer, but who knows? It won't
> show much under two windows. The opposite side is low, where furniture
> will probly cover it anyway.
>
> I am encouraged by your advice. NO sheepeez wool! My grandmother knew
> how to card and comb and spin, among other lost arts. Sheepeez wool is
> for padding quilts.
> Blake
>
> --------------------
>
> tool....
> (BLEEEET!)
>
the moisture coming from? Inside, like in a bathroom, or seeping in around
windows or through the walls? Inside, might be worth the trouble of
water-sealing the room. This is horrid, nasty, evil smelling stuff, bound to gag
or asphyxiate you in a small room, but should reduce the incidence of having to
repaint very often. Or, next time you do the whole room, use one of the new
acrylic enamels;with or without sand, is less permeable than flat.
Outside, possibly worth a little time to renew caulk around windows, etc.;
and/or use a water-repellant paint Outide.
I believe it is recommended practice to put a plain coat on first, to seal the
wallboard and patches so they will not absorb very differently from your 'color'
or decorative, in this case textured, coat; they are very thirsty, and light
will 'bounce' back from them at odds with the rest of the wall, making it 'look'
a different color even if is exactly the same! If you are making a sand texture
on your own, just use the same paint without the sand, then in the second add
the sand. In a whole room you can play games with this, using different base
coats to get different effects, but maybe more trouble than you want for a small
job; hee, hee, especially if the idea is to make the problem disappear!
Val
=============
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Gramumumum hunderztandink ve!
Qwilt & kilt & keebink frenz varm,
_dis_ vat lidl sheepees voooleez gudt 4!
BIG mushy-kishy 4 Grandmumumum!
Ole Flok
Val Adams
huff korze ewe iss gnowink dis, sheepee iss berry zelv-haware!
Beh,Beh,Beh!
Toddy
> >>Boof! Ve iss hoffink de ookink! GUDT Ozzie Sheepee!
> >>
> >
> >
> > I only just understood that I am a good Aussie sheepee<vbg>
> > I knew that !!
> > Toddy<lol>
> >
> >
> iss gno kurlee medal burr-tingees, ookinkz, cawt hin ve vullees?
>
> huff korze ewe iss gnowink dis, sheepee iss berry zelv-haware!
>
> Beh,Beh,Beh!
>
No nasties in my coat.... just lots of lovely wet rain today !!
Beh,Beh,Beh!
LOL
Cold Aussie sheepee
DittyDu...@webtv.net
I should have mentioned it is a rental house. I see it between tenants.
It has a new roof and window a/c. At one time, the window with the a/c
leaked, but was fixed after water had seeped in. It was paint -
over-able then. Last year, had the tenant from hell, who stepped
through the ceiling. Had been trying to get rid of her for non-payment
of rent for 8 months, so took my time having it fixed. Before she left,
I think she poured water in attic, too, as my insurance company was
going after her, since I had had a new roof before she moved in 3 yrs
ago. I have been watching every time it rained, but no more water came
down in 5 months. Plumber says there are no leaks. Could be the
washing machine drain was stopped.
Renters are an education by themselves.
Blake
Howsabout a big mushee kishee for my great grandma, too. I have a quilt
she made with sheepee wool.
Yoj
several cases of problem renters. It made me hope I am never in a
position to own rental property, since renters have a lot more rights
than owners, it seems.
--
Joy
Normal is in the eye of the beholder. -- Whoopie Goldberg
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Val Adams
that house, they had tenants regularly; the last batch left human excrement in
all the rooms! And they seemed such a pleasant couple, with one quite
well-behaved little boy!
I dont think the owners were mean landlords, either. They kept up the
maintainance very well, at least as far as one could see, and those tenants with
whom we had relatively close chatting relationships at different times never
seemed to have any complaints.
Anyway it sounds like you have got the actual water problem solved so your
painting should work out. Sigh; I wish just once we could have this whole place
with all it's plaster and paint on the same page. By the time we get the
plaster replaced in one room, one of the earlier ones needs re-painting. A
contractor bought next door and gutted the place to rebuild before re-selling,
that might be lots more practical than living in a place needing as much work as
this one does; but oy, the moving! chuckle; I suppose it would help if we could
get one thing done before the next breaks down, but what with my dilatory
habits... heh,heh,heh!
val
==============================
Zerdenlee BIG Mushee-kishee 4 Grate Grandmumumumumum,
(zee Ve puddink hextruh -umumz)!
iss nize 2 B hapreesheeayded!
8:><:8
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DittyDu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Thanks for the tips, Val. Never had to deal with this before.
>
> I should have mentioned it is a rental house. I see it between tenants.
> It has a new roof and window a/c. At one time, the window with the a/c
> leaked, but was fixed after water had seeped in. It was paint -
> over-able then. Last year, had the tenant from hell, who stepped
> through the ceiling. Had been trying to get rid of her for non-payment
> of rent for 8 months, so took my time having it fixed. Before she left,
> I think she poured water in attic, too, as my insurance company was
> going after her, since I had had a new roof before she moved in 3 yrs
> ago. I have been watching every time it rained, but no more water came
> down in 5 months. Plumber says there are no leaks. Could be the
> washing machine drain was stopped.
> Renters are an education by themselves.
> Blake
> Howsabout a big mushee kishee for my great grandma, too. I have a quilt
> she made with sheepee wool.
>
>
>
Val Adams
ewe needink GROOPHUG!
nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz....
Dere, iss varmer gnow?
Ole Folk 8;>
Jean B.
> I worked for a lawyer for four years. During that time we handled
> several cases of problem renters. It made me hope I am never in a
> position to own rental property, since renters have a lot more rights
> than owners, it seems.
>
> --
> Joy
>
Yes, for years I thought an ideal solution for me would be to
purchase a multiple family home and rent out part of it. There is
NO way I would do this now after all of the horror stories I've heard.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> Ugh, I've heard about some of those! Before the original owners next
> door sold that house, they had tenants regularly; the last batch left
> human excrement in all the rooms! And they seemed such a pleasant
> couple, with one quite well-behaved little boy!
> I dont think the owners were mean landlords, either. They kept up the
> maintainance very well, at least as far as one could see, and those
> tenants with whom we had relatively close chatting relationships at
> different times never seemed to have any complaints.
> Anyway it sounds like you have got the actual water problem solved so
> your painting should work out. Sigh; I wish just once we could have this
> whole place with all it's plaster and paint on the same page. By the
> time we get the plaster replaced in one room, one of the earlier ones
> needs re-painting. A contractor bought next door and gutted the place to
> rebuild before re-selling, that might be lots more practical than living
> in a place needing as much work as this one does; but oy, the moving!
> chuckle; I suppose it would help if we could get one thing done before
> the next breaks down, but what with my dilatory habits... heh,heh,heh!
>
> val
>
OMG! Re the tenants. I just don't understand some people. Poor
owners.
--
Jean B.
Yoj
news:2jr2b0F...@uni-berlin.de...
I have heard all sorts of horror stories about people who were being
evicted. One painted the whole interior black. Usually they kick holes
in doors and walls, tear down light fixtures, and things like that.
Joy
Jean B.
> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> I have heard all sorts of horror stories about people who were being
> evicted. One painted the whole interior black. Usually they kick holes
> in doors and walls, tear down light fixtures, and things like that.
>
> Joy
>
>
Just more reason to never own rental property. So that answers
one question. If I bought the house, I would not even consider
renting it out.
--
Jean B.
Toddy
>> ewe needink GROOPHUG!
>
nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,nuz,
nuz,nuz....
>
> Dere, iss varmer gnow?
>
> Ole Folk 8;>
>
Today the sun is shining again, and although it is colder, it feels better
<g>
Aussie sheepee
DittyDu...@webtv.net
dwelling. There's only 1 roof to replace, etc. The older a place gets,
the more it costs to keep up. It's not much of an investment now,
except that you end up with something you can sell even if the stock
market takes a dive. But the govt. under Reagan smelled money, so they
take a big cut if you sell.
I used to get decent tenants that would stay 12 years or so, and take
care of small problems. Lately, though, I haven't had such good luck.
This last one took 2 light fixtures, the dryer socket, and all the light
bulbs. Also hot wired the meter. I doubt if she knew how to do it
herself. Her teenaged boy was a problem.
As soon as I can, I will sell it and take the loss.. My daughter wants
to move to S. Carolina, now that her husband is dead, so it makes sense
for me to go, too.
Blake
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DittyDu...@webtv.net
tenants usually do anything deliberate to break stuff. I don't think
they do it to retaliate against a disliked landlord. It's just that
tenants are irresponsible now. The young folks don't have the same
values we have, and they think selfishly. The entire public is
clamoring to be first and now, no matter what. But, yes, the tenants do
have more rights than the landlord any more.
Most renters are just renting until they can buy a house, or else they
have pets that the apt. owners disallow, or here they are fleeing a
neighborhood with nightly gunfights. I guess it's just a matter of
time.
Blake
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is no accounting for decorative tastes. I had one paint the walls
purple. Another stained the hardwood floors black walnut. One man
jammed the doorknob through the wall, but that was just a small hole.
But if they had been there a long time --
more than 3 years, I didn't much care. I can paint a vacant room in a
day, and the latex paint doesn't cost all that much. The profit is if
you have the time, ability, and money to do your own repairs. If not,
it's time to sell.
Apt. mgrs. have told me that some tenants just kick a hole in a corner
of the bedroom wall to use as a toilet. Some steal all the copper
tubing and sell it. And it's possible to get on a govt. program where
they pay your rent and utilities and you get a few bucks to keep in the
process. But I haven't had any of those.
Blake
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neighborhood, they might turn out to be nice folks. The trouble is,
you can't tell what they will be like at the front end. Also, you can't
tell what may go wrong for them that you will have to fix. If you
don't have contacts with good handymen, you
still have to fix it anyway, and then maybe have to do it over.
But nowadays, with all the govt aid and relaxed rules about getting
mortgages, most people who would make desireable tenants, buy their
own house.
Blake
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Val Adams
> You were lucky the tenants were pleasant to live next to. I don't think
> tenants usually do anything deliberate to break stuff. I don't think
> they do it to retaliate against a disliked landlord. It's just that
> tenants are irresponsible now. The young folks don't have the same
> values we have, and they think selfishly. The entire public is
> clamoring to be first and now, no matter what. But, yes, the tenants do
> have more rights than the landlord any more.
>
> Most renters are just renting until they can buy a house, or else they
> have pets that the apt. owners disallow, or here they are fleeing a
> neighborhood with nightly gunfights. I guess it's just a matter of
> time.
> Blake
>
> -----------------------
> val [...]
>
>
>
>
Yes, from our viewpoint all the tenants were nice enough. Couple of em used to
drive me nuts wanting to chat when I was on my way to work (out the back door
and down the steps to my workshop in the basement), or playing in the garden,
but for the most part I had no complaints. I should say, also, there was only
the one family that gave the folks a bad time, most of them pitched in to do
small repairs and kept the yards up pretty good without bothering the landlord,
only called in expensive stuff like plumbing which they didnt know how to do.
Jean B.
> A multiple family home would be a better investment than a single family
> dwelling. There's only 1 roof to replace, etc. The older a place gets,
> the more it costs to keep up. It's not much of an investment now,
> except that you end up with something you can sell even if the stock
> market takes a dive. But the govt. under Reagan smelled money, so they
> take a big cut if you sell.
>
> I used to get decent tenants that would stay 12 years or so, and take
> care of small problems. Lately, though, I haven't had such good luck.
> This last one took 2 light fixtures, the dryer socket, and all the light
> bulbs. Also hot wired the meter. I doubt if she knew how to do it
> herself. Her teenaged boy was a problem.
>
> As soon as I can, I will sell it and take the loss.. My daughter wants
> to move to S. Carolina, now that her husband is dead, so it makes sense
> for me to go, too.
> Blake
Are you working toward that end, Blake?
I did have one idea this morning. If we got that house (if it is
not a moot point now), expanded the upstairs, and Leah still hated
it, our friends could live there. Right now they are renting,
although she is looking too.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> Never say never, Jean. If you could find an older couple who liked the
> neighborhood, they might turn out to be nice folks. The trouble is,
> you can't tell what they will be like at the front end. Also, you can't
> tell what may go wrong for them that you will have to fix. If you
> don't have contacts with good handymen, you
> still have to fix it anyway, and then maybe have to do it over.
> But nowadays, with all the govt aid and relaxed rules about getting
> mortgages, most people who would make desireable tenants, buy their
> own house.
> Blake
Maybe. It does occur to me that our friends need a place to live.
The mom actually came over while we were looking at the house,
so I know she likes it. It is above her price range though. The
question is whether or not I care to be a landlord (landlady?)
under ANY circumstances. I AM gradually building up my list of
people who can do things around the house.... Thank goodness.
This knowledge is so valuable.
--
Jean B.
Knut Willy
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> skrev i melding
news:2jt31oF...@uni-berlin.de...
Good idea. To let friends live upstairs.
1 - someone to share the expenses with
2 - friends in house may help against feeling of unease if you are afraid
of burglars, criminals.
3 - someone help with shuffeling of snow in winter
4 - someone to share happy days with, in the garden. Barbecue, good food,
chatting, etc.
Knut Willy, your self appointed advisor
Jean B.
Oh, they would live there by themselves. It isn't big enough for
two families, even if we DO like each other a lot.
BUT since then I have had an even better idea, and Leah did not
hit the ceiling about it, she just said it was stupid. We could
have that house renovated (upstairs, anyway) and then live there
while we get this house renovated. Then she could decide where
she wanted to live.
--
Jean B.