A mosaic
lamb
Bobbie
> Chilling, sad .........
> http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/
>
Just as you say Loes, chilling and sad......It is also amazing.
Some of the remarks are so very telling......
Thank you for posting this, it is definitely something we all should
see.....If for no other reason than so feel very sad for those they left
behind....
Bobbie....
The Americanist
heroes for such a morbid political statement? I'm sure the families are very
proud. Not!
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"...Might be worth mentioning, that all of the pictures must be on there
two or three times (There are 31 across by 47 down which means 1457
pictures.) I believe there have “only” been around 500-600 soldiers that
have died. It’s still a moving image, though.
Comment by Andrew — Wednesday April 7, 2004 @ 7:05 am..."
Let me see... hmmmm... a little math.
58000 divided by 1457......
That would mean the Viet Nam dead would make 39.8 mosiac pictures of LBJ.
Is that right? When will they be made?
JD
Jean B.
Yes, very sad. I won't add the other word that comes to mind.
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Jean B.
Welp, that would be just as appropriate.
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pijoe
Yes. The death of our boys and girls is sad. But this so-called mosiac
is disgusting. The mere suggestion that Pres. Bush has some unspeakable
agenda and is responsible for their deaths is beyond the pale. I wonder
what the mosaic of Saddam looks like. Why not a mosaic for FDR? I'm
offended. I'm a Marine Corps veteran who voluntered to put his life on
the line for my country. I am one of "the dangerous men, who go about
and do terrible things whilst we sleep" so that other Americans and our
allies CAN sleep. I am constantly appalled by this "peace movement,'
that continually reveals itself to be only anti-American, or rather,
anti-Pres. Bush. Where was the peace movement during Kosovo, or Bosnia.
They were nowhere.
The Americanist
men like these.
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pijoe,
Welcome aboard. I'm not new here, I lurk a lot as this is such a busy group
anymore. I think you might be the only Marine here. There are several
Navy, U.S., Royal Navy and Canadian Navy. When I was in the Navy we had
sails on our ships:-)) Back in '56 to '60, oh that is in the 1900's
incidentally. I'm sure you must have a little bio somewhere, but I haven't
come across it yet.
Don and his Devil
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"lamb" <lambwil...@chello.nl> a écrit dans le message de
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sadder.
Kelly
Bobbie
I have to agree.....Just as I believe that showing pictures of the
downing of the Twin Towers was a very cynical way of gaining votes. I
feel the same about this.....It isn't necessary. I don't believe anyone
could feel anything but sadness for the loss of even one person in such
an unnecessary War.....and I believe that applies to Iraqis, as well..
Bobbie...
Kelly
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Exactly the way I feel, Bobbie. I've been appalled by all the websites on
the Twin Towers, but I haven't said anything. Exploiting the dead is a
sinister way of getting votes wherever it is and by whomsoever it's done.
Kelly
Toddy
In fact, I think this is exploitation of the dead.
Much as I disapprove of the war, and the so-called reasons for it, I also
condemn things such as this
Toddy
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Jo
In fact, I think this is exploitation of the dead.........Toddy
..............................
Yes, it IS! Can someone tell me ALL those people that joined up in various
armed services-did it MAINLY because Bush was our President? or maybe it was
because they wanted to be there for us should war come knocking at our
doorsteps or ?.....Jo
p/s of course... I also know alot joined to get benefits out of the services
like education/ a job that may pay not much but gives one housing for the
family,ect.
Toddy
However I do believe many join up for security.
Then the worst case scenario actually happens :-(
Toddy
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Marian
with a very strong anti-war message, and very well done, imnho. My thanks to
Loes for posting it. Marian
>It is sad, but I don't think it helps anyone at all.
>In fact, I think this is exploitation of the dead.
>Much as I disapprove of the war, and the so-called reasons for it, I also
>condemn things such as this
>Toddy
>> Chilling, sad .........
>> http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/
>>
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>> Loes
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The wheels ARE beginning to come off...
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid2278054
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pijoe
Art?
I disagree. "Guernica" is an artistic depiction of human suffering during war.
The mosiac is a crippled, sophmoric attempt to "blame Bush" for the deaths of our
servicemen and women. As far as the technique and skill needed to produce this
evil garbage--30 minutes at most with PhotoShop.
Art. Indeed.
JD Cooper
> Chilling, sad .........
> http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/
Gosh! You must have missd my question, Lamb.
I asked:
""lonestar"
Marian wrote:
> I couldn't disagree more, Toddy. This is ART, as Guernica is. Not pretty, but
> with a very strong anti-war message, and very well done, imnho. My thanks to
> Loes for posting it. Marian
It is only "art" for goober brains with rectal optosis.
Robert
Jo
THE face of Saddam....Jo
""lonestar"
Jo wrote:
> My dh said if ANYone was to make a mosaic of our dead soldiers, it should be
> THE face of Saddam....Jo
Agreed.
Robert
JD Cooper
> I couldn't disagree more, Toddy. This is ART, as Guernica is. Not pretty, but
> with a very strong anti-war message, and very well done, imnho. My thanks to
> Loes for posting it. Marian
Your taste in art is rather "trailer park", ain't it? I guess you also
think graffiti on railroad cars is "art"? What's your take on Mexican
velvet painting "art"? I bet you have a lot of it, donchya?
"Were I like thee I'd throw away myself."
-Timon of Athens (Shakespear)
JD
lamb
Is that a question I could or should answer?
As far as I know there are far more impressive memorials to the Vietnam
dead ...........
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JD Cooper
If I did a mosaic of the dead in the image of LBJ, would you enjoy it so
much as to perpetuate its showing around the world?
JD
lamb
It is not me showing it around the world, I saw it in the newspaper, it
touched me, so I looked up where it was shown around the world on the
Internet. And posted the URL.
If somebody made something similar of LBJ now, I'd think he lived in the
past. If it would have been done at the time, I suppose it might have
been different portraits ........ "LBJ, how many children ..........."
--
Loes
JD Cooper
Yes, the repugnant thing has been helped along on its journey by
repeated posts... one after the other after the other.
Yes. I am becoming more and more familiar with the notion that Lbj and
Viet Nam were in the past and don't count for anything. Good cheer in
that because soon Iraq will be "in the past" and won't count either. I
am sure if it now.
JD
lamb
Well, back again after sleep, work, dinner :-)
Whether it is repugnant is matter of taste.
And please, don't get me wrong, I did not want to imply that Vietnam and
LBJ don't matter, absolutely not. The past is very important. I don't
know how schools deal with history these days where you live, in Holland
it is very much neglected. Awful.
I hope with you that "Iraq" will be "in the past" too, the sooner the
better, but I don't think it should be forgotten.
--
Loes
DAE
I know many who joined because of 911. Some were Seniors in High School and
were told to come back later which they did. I would call that "Patriotic".
Some of those same "High School Seniors" are now in the Iraq, Afghanistan,
Thailand and in Europe. This is the American spirit in time of peril or
anger that could lead towards peril. The same can be said of the draftee's
in WWII who Tom Brokaw called "The Greatest Generation". Well, from what I
can see we aren't doing so bad with this generation.
Don and his Devil
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Well said, Don. Well said.
.......... I agree-maybe some of these young people are getting "the" messege
that terrorism will not be tolerated! or friends/family get killed in such a
senseless horrible way!
Still- I hate to hear those so young getting killed-from serving in
wars...guess cause my son died at 18 years of age but from a car wreck...can't
say for sure if he would have joined the service if he could have but would
have liked to think so-IF that was his desire/choice...he was still not sure
what he was wanting out of life at 18 before he died...Jo
""lonestar"
lamb wrote:
History teaching is very "shoddy" in the schools in Fort Worth,Tx.
Political Kerreck nuts have managed to do away with most history that
pertains to anything previous to the 1960's. There is no such thing as
the 3 R's. Everyone only studies only the questions that will be given
on the insipid T.A.S.S tests required by the State. The kids are being
Dumbed Down. The grading system has eliminated "A","B" grading for fear
of embarrassing some kid that refuses to study. Now it is Passed,
"Passed, yet needs improvement", "Passing, needs much improvement". It
is really a Joke.
Robert :-(
>
The Americanist
I joined at 18 during Korea. That was the beginning of my education. I don't
regret serving.
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I too am sorry you lost your Son so tragically. I would imagine that he
would be like some of our young people if the situation were the same.
Don and his Devil
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Jo
miss him like yesterday ;(...and so I can feel (and understand)the hurt/pain of
any mom/dad,ect who also experience death of a grown child...Jo
Yoj
(((((((Jo))))))))
I think losing a child, at any age, has to be the worst thing there is.
I'm sure it's something you never get over.
Joy
JD Cooper
Well, then... allow me to use an American expression, "OK".
Still, on the issue of "taste", I am just (as I have stated many times)
a dumb dusty cowboy in Texas, but on the issue of "taste" I might
suggest that my "tastes" in "art" might lean towards Mozart and Da Vinci
and and perhaps Beatles and Van Gogh, but my tastes towards the subject
at hand leads me to the toilet where any civilized human would wretch
his/her guts at the *art* Marian and perhaps thyself proclaim worthwhile.
In the event anyone is confused about the *ART* piece involved, I will
post again the *ART*.
http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/
I repeat: REPUGNANT!
OK?
JD
""lonestar"
Jo wrote:
My heartfelt sympathy to you. We aren't meant to outlive our children.
Thank goodness for the precious memories.
Robert
>
Jo
My heartfelt sympathy to you. We aren't meant to outlive our children.
Thank goodness for the precious memories.
Robert
.........
I have other grown kids and grandkids...yet the one taken away so
soon is the one most missed! ;(
.......Jo
Toddy
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>don't
>regret serving.
>
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Did ya sit in a fox hole at night when it was 20 below zero. My friend, Richard
Shelton did, right up on the east side of that valley.
A chink jumped in with him and he cut his throat with them staring at the
other. I was wandering if you knew Richard. It's a small world you know.
The Americanist
1951. He loat an eye earlier, and faked the eye test on the physical by
memorizing the eye chart. Some are more willing to serve than others.
Did you serve?
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> Well, then... allow me to use an American expression, "OK".
No problema!
> Still, on the issue of "taste", I am just (as I have stated many times)
> a dumb dusty cowboy in Texas, but on the issue of "taste" I might
> suggest that my "tastes" in "art" might lean towards Mozart and Da Vinci
> and and perhaps Beatles and Van Gogh, but my tastes towards the subject
> at hand leads me to the toilet where any civilized human would wretch
> his/her guts at the *art* Marian and perhaps thyself proclaim worthwhile.
>
> In the event anyone is confused about the *ART* piece involved, I will
> post again the *ART*.
>
> http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/
>
> I repeat: REPUGNANT!
>
> OK?
>
> JD
>
I wouldn't call it art either.
Why did it touch me? Every day, newspapers, tv, they report about war,
destruction, they tell me what politicians and commentators have to say
about it. Dead people are "numbers killed". This picture in the papers
really made me realize that these are real people. Or were ........
Could be because I am not American or not living in America. I suppose
it is just a bit too "far away" usually. A bit like what happens with
accidents or calamities ........ Plane crash, "no Dutch on board" - oh,
thank god, plane crash, "three Dutch, from such and such town were
killed" - oh poor people, poor families .......
So, when I see a list of names, or a list of faces (that is how I see
it), it becomes much more real.
--
Loes