Men's Substitute Identities; Jackass culture (men pretending to be boys) gangster culture (boys pretending to be men) obsessive grooming & body image...
Immortalist
school and college in record numbers; victims of an invisible
epidemic. Modern men have failed to forge a new and productive role in
the 21st century. With the rise of feminism and the changing societal
roles of both men and women, men have become so confused about what
defines masculinity; having lost their traditional role as provider
and protector, men flirt with hollow substitute identities-drawing on
Jackass culture (men pretending to be boys), gangster culture (boys
pretending to be men) and metrosexual obsessions with grooming and
body image-that have reductively redefined manhood and led men away
from compassion, responsibility and family. Men should reclaim their
identity and place in modern America and such a transformation is
important to future generations of both men and women.
- The male Y chromosome is at risk
- of disappearing altogether one day.
Why are so many of today's supermen superclueless?
Why are so many ambitious young women unable to find boyfriends as
successful and independent as they are?
Why do so many men prefer the escapist digitized world of SPIKE TV,
Jackass, and Grand Theft Auto to the reality of their own lives?
Men are struggling to redefine what being a man means in today's
world. Their confusion has led to rampant male malaise, which has left
many men feeling alienated and disconnected. Unable to communicate
their frustrated thoughts or emotions effectively, too many guys are
slacking off and opting out of their manly obligations, producing an
entire generation of men who are ditching their own potential and
failing the moms, wives, and girlfriends who love them.
Rather than working hard to achieve top grades or a promotion at work,
too many American males squander their energy tracking their fantasy
football league scores or mastering the latest video game. Men drop
out of school at a far higher rate than women and are far likelier to
die early because of poor health habits.
The state men are a problem that has wreaked havoc on the American
family and men and women would do good to look past the gender wars to
address this national emergency together.
http://www.amazon.com/Decline-Men-American-Tuning-Flipping/dp/0061353140
Sir Frederick
I don't think it is limited to men. As the stories as to what it is and means
to be human, weaken, the general culture deteriorates.
The possibility of 'death by paradigm shift', needs to be considered.
Of course, the mystery of the fact of existence, that offers no obvious
purpose, sets up for this sort of quagmire and dilemma.
Day Brown
> I don't think it is limited to men. As the stories as to what it is and means
> to be human, weaken, the general culture deteriorates.
> The possibility of 'death by paradigm shift', needs to be considered.
> Of course, the mystery of the fact of existence, that offers no obvious
> purpose, sets up for this sort of quagmire and dilemma.
discussed come to mind....
Mother Nature clipped the ends of the bell curve for women to ensure
they were competent enuf as mothers. But rather than seeing genius in
men, now we see mental pathology. It turns out, you cant raise kids on
sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda, and expect genius.
The vast majority of what get instead, ADD, ADHD, Autism, etc, are boys.
but the food companies and fast food outlets, who buy so many TV ads,
mean the media will say nothing about it. Profits would decline.
Moreover, parents do not what to think of what their parents did to
them, much less consider what they do to their own kids.
We see all the allergies and asthma, and know pollution and
contamination is related, and how this affects boys more. But why would
we think that reactions are only physical, and never mental?
Then too, ever since the birth control pill, many honorable men have
stayed faithful to wives who bore them no son, while the charming
philanderers have left bastards to be raised on welfare all over the
county. Iterate that for a few generations, and you see why smart women
dont see any suitable husbands any more. Doctor Laura:"Well, you picked
him honey." But what do women have to pick FROM?
Ergo, we can have monogamy, or birth control. Pick one. People dont like
to think about that either.
Moreover, Business, religions, and government all praise monogamy, while
at the same time stressing marriage. They really want single moms who
are therefore more dependent on their services.
Finally, consider what the courts have done to marriage, and how this
has devalued fatherhood...
1) a wife can charge a husband with rape. Dr. Laura usta say, "Why buy
the cow when you can get the milk for free?" But husbands bought the cow
and- dont get any milk. No wonder they look elsewhere.
2) if she does have sex and gets pregnant, she can abort without his
consent.
3) But if she takes it to term, he hasta pay for it, and the way the law
is most places, even if the DNA aint his.
4) but even if it is his, she can take his kids and split for another
state and move in with a stud muffin, even if he has a sexual abuse
record. He still hasta support them. Whether he getsta see his kids or not.
One dyke I read, who outlined all the above said she'd never marry
anyone stupid enuf to make a deal like this. Ergo, the end of marriage.
Another effect of birth control, is that if a woman does not have kids,
she will often enuf, out of her own maternal instinct, make a kid out of
her husband. ergo, "men pretending to be boys."
What's to be done? for sure its not upta us. But I already see young
women moving into communes so that with just a part time job their share
of the expenses can be met, and they'll have time to raise their own
kids. I see as well where the women select men to live with them, not
because of sex, but because of mentoring and role modeling. They also
help provide in-house childcare while mothers work.
Successful 30 something women, who see they are no longer so sexy, have
given up on waiting for "Mr. Wright" and are going to fertility clinics
to give birth to perfect babies, and have much more reward in
motherhood. This will decrease the number of ill adapted men so that the
next generation of women will have more to pick from.
Rod Speed
> Sir Frederick wrote
>> I don't think it is limited to men. As the stories as to what it is
>> and means to be human, weaken, the general culture deteriorates.
>> The possibility of 'death by paradigm shift', needs to be considered.
>> Of course, the mystery of the fact of existence, that offers no
>> obvious purpose, sets up for this sort of quagmire and dilemma.
> Well of course, there's lotsa reasons. But some that I never see discussed come to mind....
Because they are mindlessly silly fantasys.
> Mother Nature
No such animal.
> clipped the ends of the bell curve for women to ensure they were competent enuf as mothers.
Pity we can prove using decent science that that the ends arent clipped.
> But rather than seeing genius in men, now we see mental pathology.
How odd that there are a hell of lot less in loony bins than there used to be.
> It turns out, you cant raise kids on sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda, and expect genius.
How odd that we have seen genius anyway.
> The vast majority of what get instead, ADD, ADHD, Autism, etc, are boys.
Just plain wrong with anorexia, bulimia, etc etc etc.
> but the food companies and fast food outlets, who buy so many TV ads, mean the media will say nothing about it.
How odd that operations like the BBC do anyway.
> Profits would decline.
Only in the stupid US system.
And the media doesnt matter a damn anyway, what matters is rigorous science.
> Moreover, parents do not what to think of what their parents did to them, much less consider what they do to their own
> kids.
> We see all the allergies and asthma, and know pollution and contamination is related,
Like hell we do except in the sense that those that grow
up in the absolute pits of pollution and contamination die
much earlier and that there does seem to be some
relation between asthma and obessive cleanliness etc.
> and how this affects boys more.
Boys die at a higher rate regardless and that has always been the case.
We appear to have evolved like that.
> But why would we think that reactions are only physical, and never mental?
Only fools do that.
> Then too, ever since the birth control pill, many honorable men have
> stayed faithful to wives who bore them no son, while the charming
> philanderers have left bastards to be raised on welfare all over the
> county. Iterate that for a few generations, and you see why smart
> women dont see any suitable husbands any more.
Thats always been the case. In spades when some societys
were stupid enough to kill huge numbers of the men in
industrial war, long before there was any birth control pill.
There's a reason french women got a reputation for being sluts.
> Doctor Laura:"Well, you picked him honey." But what do women have to pick FROM?
Those fools get to pick from the absolute dregs now, sperm donors, instead.
> Ergo, we can have monogamy, or birth control. Pick one.
We actually have hordes that fuck around
and produce lots of kids in the process.
> People dont like to think about that either.
Nothing to 'think' of, as usual with your completely mindless silly shit.
> Moreover, Business, religions, and government all praise monogamy, while at the same time stressing marriage.
And hordes more ignore those fools, just like they always have.
Have a look at the rate of childbirth outside marraige sometime.
> They really want single moms who are therefore more dependent on their services.
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> Finally, consider what the courts have done to marriage, and how this has devalued fatherhood...
Only in the terminally stupid US system. Even someone as stupid as you
should have noticed that there might just be a bit more than just the US.
> 1) a wife can charge a husband with rape. Dr. Laura usta say, "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"
> But husbands bought the cow and- dont get any milk. No wonder they look elsewhere.
And hordes dont bother with marraige anymore.
> 2) if she does have sex and gets pregnant, she can abort without his consent.
Nothing new about that. Its just a lot easier than it used to be.
> 3) But if she takes it to term, he hasta pay for it, and the way the law is most places, even if the DNA aint his.
Only in the completely fucked US system.
> 4) but even if it is his, she can take his kids and split for another state and move in with a stud muffin, even if he
> has a sexual abuse record. He still hasta support them. Whether he getsta see his kids or not.
Only in the completely fucked US system.
> One dyke I read, who outlined all the above said she'd never marry
> anyone stupid enuf to make a deal like this. Ergo, the end of marriage.
How odd that so many still get married anyway.
> Another effect of birth control, is that if a woman does not have
> kids, she will often enuf, out of her own maternal instinct, make a kid out of her husband. ergo, "men pretending to
> be boys."
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> What's to be done?
Flush your mindless silly shit where it belongs.
> for sure its not upta us.
Corse it is.
> But I already see young women moving into communes so that with just a part time job their share of the expenses can
> be met, and they'll have time to raise their own kids.
No communes ever last for long.
> I see as well where the women select men to live with them, not because of sex, but because of mentoring and role
> modeling. They also help provide in-house childcare while mothers work.
Fuck all do that.
> Successful 30 something women, who see they are no longer so sexy, have given up on waiting for "Mr. Wright" and are
> going to fertility clinics to give birth to perfect babies,
Give birth to the spawn of the absolute dregs of society, actually.
Those genes will out eventually.
> and have much more reward in motherhood.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> This will decrease the number of ill adapted men so that
> the next generation of women will have more to pick from.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
Rod Speed
> Men lead increasingly socially isolated lives and dropping
> out of high school and college in record numbers;
Lie in most of the modern first world.
> victims of an invisible epidemic.
Only in your pathetic little fantasyland.
> Modern men have failed to forge a new and productive role in the 21st century.
Dont need a new one, the original one is fine.
> With the rise of feminism and the changing societal roles of both men and
> women, men have become so confused about what defines masculinity;
Only the fools have.
> having lost their traditional role as provider and protector, men
> flirt with hollow substitute identities-drawing on Jackass culture
> (men pretending to be boys), gangster culture (boys pretending
> to be men) and metrosexual obsessions with grooming and
> body image-that have reductively redefined manhood
Only the fools.
> and led men away from compassion, responsibility and family.
Only the fools.
> Men should reclaim their identity and place in modern America
The absolute vast bulk of them dont need to.
> and such a transformation is important to future generations of both men and women.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> - The male Y chromosome is at risk of disappearing altogether one day.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> Why are so many of today's supermen superclueless?
Same reason you are clueless, ear to ear dog shit.
> Why are so many ambitious young women unable to find
> boyfriends as successful and independent as they are?
Because no one like women like that.
> Why do so many men prefer the escapist digitized world of SPIKE TV,
> Jackass, and Grand Theft Auto to the reality of their own lives?
Fuck all do.
> Men are struggling to redefine what being a man means in today's world.
Only fools gnaw their fingernails about shit like that. You qualify.
> Their confusion has led to rampant male malaise, which
> has left many men feeling alienated and disconnected.
Feel free to hang yourself any time you like.
> Unable to communicate their frustrated thoughts or emotions
> effectively, too many guys are slacking off and opting out of
> their manly obligations, producing an entire generation of men
> who are ditching their own potential and failing the moms,
> wives, and girlfriends who love them.
They're free to hang themselves too.
> Rather than working hard to achieve top grades or a promotion at
> work, too many American males squander their energy tracking
> their fantasy football league scores or mastering the latest video
> game. Men drop out of school at a far higher rate than women
They always have, fuckwit.
> and are far likelier to die early because of poor health habits.
Thats been true for millennia, fuckwit.
> The state men are a problem that has wreaked havoc on the
> American family and men and women would do good to look
> past the gender wars to address this national emergency together.
Wota fucking wanker...
> http://www.amazon.com/Decline-Men-American-Tuning-Flipping/dp/0061353140
Just another completely mindless steaming turd.
ZerkonXXXX
> Men lead increasingly socially isolated lives and dropping out of high
> school and college in record numbers; victims of an invisible epidemic
Or are high schools and colleges the way too visible epidemic?
In all this "man history", this is the newest element. Diploma, I will
not call it 'education', as status.
If labor alone, raw physical exertion, determined economic viability,
this article, as written, would have little to no meaning.
Now, the most commonly valued physical exertion is contained by how many
meetings one can sit through and talk and talk and talk about how other
people of a lesser economic worth will exert energy.
The most economically vulnerable today are those who work with their
hands. This is a system which punishes or demeans action. Action being
the historical if not genetic attribute associated to the male.
John James grows corn. Here is what he makes...
Rush Limbaugh sits and talks. Here is what he makes....
Feminism has little to do with this.
Rod Speed
> Immortalist wrote
>> Men lead increasingly socially isolated lives and dropping out of high
>> school and college in record numbers; victims of an invisible epidemic
> Or are high schools and colleges the way too visible epidemic?
> In all this "man history", this is the newest element.
> Diploma, I will not call it 'education', as status.
> If labor alone, raw physical exertion, determined economic
> viability, this article, as written, would have little to no meaning.
> Now, the most commonly valued physical exertion is contained by
> how many meetings one can sit through and talk and talk and talk
> about how other people of a lesser economic worth will exert energy.
> The most economically vulnerable today are those who work with their hands.
Thats just plain wrong with skilled work like plumbers and electricians etc.
> This is a system which punishes or demeans action.
No it doesnt.
> Action being the historical if not genetic attribute associated to the male.
Thats utterly mangled all over again, most obviously with housework and cooking etc.
> John James grows corn. Here is what he makes...
> Rush Limbaugh sits and talks. Here is what he makes....
> Feminism has little to do with this.
They make bullshit, stupid.