INTERIORS: Current colors
Missbeckett
>>
>> Well, since I have actually seen mansions in guard gated communities here
>in
>> America and am not going on hearsay like some people who have never stepped
>> foot in a mansion, I have to tell you I have yet to see a mansion with
>toile in
>> it outside of France itself.
I'm sorry, Kathy, no. Grand houses in Britain often feature this fabric,
I'm sorry to have to disagree.
-Beckett
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Trilby
Maladicta1 <malad...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Rose Kish" <r.k...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> To me, provencal and provincial are two different terms. Provencal
>>> concerns the southwest regions of France. (Think Provence, Cannes, St.
>>> Tropez) I think of bold warm yellows and oranges and blues of Van Gogh's
>>> Arles. It is french, with a mediterranean flair. Provincial is the
>>> country aspect of each of France's regions, which could mean any number
>>> of french country styles throughout France that would include toile (not
>>> excluding Provence - i.e. a red pastoral print on yellow background -
>>> although I think the word "provence" is an overmarketed concept). I'd
>>> categorize country french design as containing rustic or pastoral-scened
>>> toile paired with checks and stripes. Toile is the french word for
>>> cloth.
>>
>>I think these terms have been rendered meaningless by 1) the furniture
>>industry and 2) unsophisticated magazine/catalogue/developer usage. I mean
>>when someone says French Provincial I think of those ghastly
>>white and gold bedroom "suites" and awful gilded wood framed sofas
>>from the 1950s and 1960s. It is not quite Louis Quinze, lol. French
>>Provencal or French country is a more recent coinage, but it too
>>has become fairly useless in describing anything accurately since
>>if you splash some warm colors in a room with a wood piece that
>>has faux wormholes in it, it's immediately labelled country french. All
>>the tract mansion developers will have something to answer for when
>>whoever the interior design equivalent is for St Peter meets them at
>>that great gated community in the sky.
>>
>>--AJ
>>
>>
>From what I'm able to tell, the type of fabric we're speaking of is toile de
>jouy and it isn't limited to rustic settings. Marie Antoinette chose it for
>Versailles.
Toile was quite popular in the American Colonies and the end of the
eighteenth century. After the American Revolution, patterns featuring a
personified "Columbia" and American eagles, etc., were quite popular.
Dumbarton House, in Washington DC (Georgetown) has toile hangings on
the bed in the master bedroom. The fabric is original to the period,
and the print is American motifs. The house was owned by the Secretary
of the Treasury, although I can't remember which administration(s) he
served in. I have also seen toiles like this in the Moffat-Ladd
house in Portsmouth, NH. Both are large, formal, eighteenth
century houses that have been restored and furnished with
great historical accurately.
There are also documented Chinoiserie toiles--pagodas, etc.
So not all toiles feature shepherdesses, gamboling lambkins, etc.
Priscilla
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Trilby
Trilby <ps...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>house in Portsmouth, NH. Both are large, formal, eighteenth
>century houses that have been restored and furnished with
>great historical accurately.
Whoops! I meant accuracy, of course.
Do you think if I take my sexy librarian glasses back to the optomestrist
that he wull give my me money bach? They were sure expsnsive but eye'm
knot sure they'll was worth it's.
Ripley7173
>From: "Claire in SF" clai...@aol.com
>Date: 8/9/2002 8:43 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <aj1r5r$17ph73$1...@ID-131371.news.dfncis.de>
>
>
><> Ripley7173 wrote:
>> IMHO anything is better than the country blue and mauve
>> > that everyone had in the early/mid 90's.
>> light...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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>> Couldn't agree more! If I see anymore country blue,or swirly pastels,
>> I'll throw up.(I realize that's just me--the country blue/swirly pastel
>> people would probably throw up to see my green and burgundy interiors).
>
>Country blue? What kind of blue is that? And swirly pastels in the 90's,
>never saw them in anyone's home I've been in. I'd love to see a pic on the
>web of what it actually looks like. Sounds cringe-y. Gosh, I must have
>missed those entirely! I love blue so I'm surprised I missed the country
>blue, whatever it was :)
>Claire in SF
Country blue, a medium (not light or dark, not bright or faded) blue leaning
more towards a periwinkle than a blue-green. Although it's not purple by any
means. Often paired with a pinky-mauve in the early 90's. Not a bad color on
it's own, or in small quantities. (although one should use caution while
operating heavy machinery) It's households full of it that make me wince. I
think it was an extreme backlash from the 'ultra-modern' chrome and black of
the 80's.
AJ
"Trilby" <ps...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <yB%49.141$75.3...@news.uchicago.edu>,
> Trilby <ps...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >house in Portsmouth, NH. Both are large, formal, eighteenth
> >century houses that have been restored and furnished with
> >great historical accurately.
>
> Whoops! I meant accuracy, of course.
"Great historical accurately" actually has a beautiful cadence and
lyricism to it. As we all know, James Joyce, when examining proofs,
let happy accidents stand. And Ford Madox Ford called them,
the "unearned increment".
with great historical accurately,
aj
Ynahteb
"Kathy135" <kath...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >From: "A Adams" kissmyspam@.satx.rr.com
>
> >> Okay, I'll admit it, even though I appear to be in the minority here:
I
> >> *hate* toile. *HATE* it!
> >>
> >> I feel better now. :)
> >
> >
> ><phew> me too, glad I'm not alone
>
> Well, I have to admit I have never used it, but it looks great in my
books.;-P
I love it... I have it here and there in my house and I had no idea it was
trendy... I don't know anyone else IRL with it in their house so I'll just
pretend that I am original... ;o)
Bethany
Ynahteb
"Claire in SF" <clai...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> <> Ripley7173 wrote:
> > IMHO anything is better than the country blue and mauve
> > > that everyone had in the early/mid 90's.
> > light...@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:3D5344...@nothere.com...
> > Couldn't agree more! If I see anymore country blue,or swirly pastels,
> > I'll throw up.(I realize that's just me--the country blue/swirly pastel
> > people would probably throw up to see my green and burgundy interiors).
>
> Country blue? What kind of blue is that? And swirly pastels in the 90's,
> never saw them in anyone's home I've been in. I'd love to see a pic on the
> web of what it actually looks like. Sounds cringe-y. Gosh, I must have
> missed those entirely! I love blue so I'm surprised I missed the country
> blue, whatever it was :)
> Claire in SF
Go to Value City furniture!!! They still have that kind of stuff... and
brass accents. Lots of faux brass accents.
(but they actually have some cool stuff, too!)
Bethany
>
>
LeighBea
>nursery goes, you'll have to redecorate soon anyway unless you have another
>little one on the heels of the current one, so persoanlly I'd go ahead with
>toile for now.
Oh goodness! There is no baby in my future. I just enjoy dreaming: I have my
wedding dress picked but no man, the china pattern picked but no registry, the
silver picked but the relative won't die.... that sort of thing. My nursery is
just that a dream. And a baby, gosh, that is the farthest thing in my future!
I enjoyed your post.
Lisa
Claire in SF
>
> "Claire in SF" <clai...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:aj1r5r$17ph73$1...@ID-131371.news.dfncis.de...
> > never saw them in anyone's home I've been in. I'd love to see a pic on
the
> > web of what it actually looks like. Sounds cringe-y.
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> I know what she means. The paintbrush stroke type patterns. I do think
they
> were bigger in the late 80's that in the 90's.
>
> JennP.
Ohhhh, I know those. Yes, it strikes me as 80's. I watched a couple episodes
of the horrible "That 80's Show" and the 80's decor made me laugh more than
the fashions. The decade of mauve and the sconce!!!
ty
Claire in SF
Kathy135
> I'm sorry, Kathy, no. Grand houses in Britain often feature this fabric,
>I'm sorry to have to disagree.
We probably aren't disagreeing as really the point I was making was that when
AJ inferred that mansions were tacky because of toile, I had to point out that
toile is found in the mansions in France and they could never be considered
tacky.
Kathy
The next thing to saying a good thing yourself, is to quote one.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Kathy135
>the
>silver picked but the relative won't die.... that sort of thing.
Don't you hate when that happens? ;-))
Kathy135
>I love it... I have it here and there in my house and I had no idea it was
>trendy... I don't know anyone else IRL with it in their house so I'll just
>pretend that I am original... ;o)
I love it too, but have never used it. I thought about it a lot though.
Kathy135
>Country blue? What kind of blue is that?
When I think of country blue I think of a medium to light chalky blue.
Kathy135
>I'm thinking she means French Blue that dusty blue that goes with
>country kitchens or distressed furniture.
Just like Ripley, I have always heard it called country blue and I remember the
mauves and that well.
Sooz
Dead blue. Yecch.
Sooz
Absence of stress means you're dead.
Kathy135
>Dead blue. Yecch.
Yup, this is it:
http://www.wendysbackgrounds.com/Layer/layer5/Countrytheme/cbluehrt.html
Do you know that "they" say that blue walls are the worst walls to have if you
are trying to sell your home?
Ynahteb
My living room is electric blue... my son's room is a deep purply blue with
clouds painted on it... The room I'm sitting in now is a deep blue... oh
and my bathroom!!! light blue ( tis ragrolled)! nothing even approaching
"country blue" though...
We're planning on selling soon- eeek! I paint so often anyway that I'll
probably have a few more rooms different colors by the time this baby's on
the market.. ;o) would a bright orange be acceptable... hmmm...
michael adams
What does this mean Sooz? Absence of stress means you're calm, relaxed,
composed, serene, contemplating a duck-egg perhaps..
Kathy135
>My living room is electric blue... my son's room is a deep purply blue with
>clouds painted on it... The room I'm sitting in now is a deep blue... oh
>and my bathroom!!! light blue ( tis ragrolled)! nothing even approaching
>"country blue" though...
>We're planning on selling soon- eeek! I paint so often anyway that I'll
>probably have a few more rooms different colors by the time this baby's on
>the market.. ;o) would a bright orange be acceptable... hmmm...
Sitting here LMAO! White would be good, but you might leave the mural in P's
room. That might help it sell. They say most people have no imagination when
it comes to looking at homes and imagining their own decor in there, so white
is the safest route to go.
Kathy135
>> Absence of stress means you're dead.
>
>What does this mean Sooz? Absence of stress means you're calm, relaxed,
>composed, serene, contemplating a duck-egg perhaps..
She is right. You need a certain amount of stress to survive, otherwise we
would keel over and die.
just julia
> Has anybody else noticed that current shelter catalogs (Crate & Barrel,
> Elm Street, Pottery Barn, etc.) are showing the circa 1970s earth tones?
> Browns, avocado greens, golds, burnt orange, and a bit of burgundy.What
> do you think of these color trends?
Personally, it makes me twitch. I hate those tones. Too muddy, neutral,
moldy, blah. OK, I mostly feel that way about the browns and avocado
green. Ugh. I just painted my kitchen screamingly orange, so I can't
complain about burnt orange I guess.
j
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Kathy135
>Personally, it makes me twitch. I hate those tones. Too muddy, neutral,
>moldy, blah. OK, I mostly feel that way about the browns and avocado
>green. Ugh. I just painted my kitchen screamingly orange, so I can't
>complain about burnt orange I guess.
I've seen it done and although it may not sound good, it was gorgeous. I am
not sure if I would really define the green as an avocado green.
Claire in SF
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OK, I think I know what you mean. I've got a few different blues around here
and on a fashion note I just bought a cute little french blue sporty summer
dress (love blue). Being a fan of blue, I assume I like country blue and
maybe I even have something that is country blue! I'd have to agree that
having a whole houe of it (or any color, really) would have an ick factor.
So, what is the blue on the Michael Graves stuff (like my Alessi tea
kettle)?
Claire in SF
Jlwmdhrg M. Gzkrbwk Jr.
<<So, what is the blue on the Michael Graves stuff (like my Alessi tea
kettle)?>>
I dunno if YOUR MG tea kettle is the same as mine, but...I call the blue on the
boxes of his stuff at Target "Wedgwood blue."
-Joe "Dilettante" in SoFla
I was eclectic before eclectic was cool. Oh, wait a minute...eclectic isn't
cool. Never mind.
Ripley7173
>Date: 8/11/2002 2:10 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020811151054...@mb-mh.aol.com>
>
>Claire asked:
>
><<So, what is the blue on the Michael Graves stuff (like my Alessi tea
>kettle)?>>
>
>I dunno if YOUR MG tea kettle is the same as mine, but...I call the blue on
>the
>boxes of his stuff at Target "Wedgwood blue."
>
>-Joe "Dilettante" in SoFla
I don't have any Michael Graves stuff handy to look at, but I've seen it at
Target, and IMHO country blue is close, but a shade or so lighter. I'd go with
wedgwood blue too for the moment, although I would have to look again to make
sure. It's funny, but some people really don't see full color spectrums.
Medically I suppose it's a color blindness. I see it with men FAR more than
women. They'll come in with a print that has predominately yellow/red tones,
and then pull a burgundy out of the mat samples and say "this red looks good".
Sometimes it's difficult to diplomatically say "Ew, gross, no way." But they
honestly don't SEE a difference. A friend of mine in high school had a metallic
blue car. His mom called it silver. It was NOT silver. If only because I say
so!
Maladicta1
on midcentury modern style.
It would be really nice if people would come and test the waters with me. Just
delete all the spam. There are maybe two posters in that group.
readandpost rosie
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"Maladicta1" <malad...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Claire in SF
> Claire asked:
>
> <<So, what is the blue on the Michael Graves stuff (like my Alessi tea
> kettle)?>>
news:20020811151054...@mb-mh.aol.com...
> I dunno if YOUR MG tea kettle is the same as mine, but...I call the blue
on the
> boxes of his stuff at Target "Wedgwood blue."
>
> -Joe "Dilettante" in SoFla
>
> I was eclectic before eclectic was cool. Oh, wait a minute...eclectic
isn't
> cool. Never mind.
Mine is the classic mid-80's one with the burgandy bird, shown on here as
"1985".
http://www.blissgift.com/gifts/Alessi.htm
It's kind of wedgewood, though I don't have any of the Tarjay pieces with
blue on them with which to compare it.
Claire in SF
robyn
what mail-order catalogs have good high-end decorating fabric selections?
robyn
Kathy135
>all this talk about toile...
>what mail-order catalogs have good high-end decorating fabric selections?
>robyn
Not sure, but it is probably best to go into an interior designer's shop and
look through their books. I think even some paint stores have books. That way
you can really see what you are getting.
Kathy
"People who eat white bread have no dreams." Diana Vreeland