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Maeve

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Jan 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/2/99
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Greetings and Aloha,

On the subjects of Custom Bridesmaid Dresses. Do you know anyone who sews?
Vogue has some marvelous plus size patterns. If you know someone who is a
tailor or has those abilities, design the outfits you would like to wear and
show the specs to the seamstress and have her create the outfits. This will
save you a bundle of money. I made my sister's wedding gown and that of
her bridesmaids, with the help of a neighbor who wanted to make a little
extra money. She was an excellent seamstress and sewed all of her
children's clothing, she even made her husband's business suits. Treasures
in people, exist in our own neighborhoods. Next time you see someone
wearing a striking outfit, that you haven't seen in a store or magazine ask
them where they bought it. More than likely a talented parent or auntie is
the unsung genius who created it, get the name and address of that
individual and ask them if they will make your outfits.

I belong to the SCA (Society of Creative Anachronism) , we dress up in
medieval costumes and re-enact a more chivalrous era. Many of the women who
belong to such groups are excellent seamstresses and embroidery artist. If
there is a group near you, ask if anyone in the society would be willing to
lend thier expertise in designing and sewing your bridesmaid dresses.
Should the answer be in the affirmative then you will have 1) probably
saved yourself some money 2) have a unique and beautiful outfit that will
bring raves from attendees of your wedding 3) Make a new friend, who will
more than likely be willing to show you how it is done, and well as be
available for other occassions when you need a drop dead gorgeous outfit
that is unique to your personality.

I hope this helps.

Mahalo nui loa
Maeve , Fashion Maven from Hawaii
Lisa Drake wrote in message ...
>Where would my sister and I (she's the bride) look for reasonably-priced
>bridesmaid dresses? There are 3 bridesmaids, and we are all on the "plus"
>side (size 10 and up...). We are looking for something in black, or black
>and white. It would be good if they were'nt sleeveless, either, but I
>don't seem to see many bridesmaid dresses w/ sleeves. BTW, the wedding is
>in April and it's not very big or very formal.
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>Lisa
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JoslynMB

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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Alex evening makes nice bridesmaids dresses up to size 18. They can even be
special ordered if you can find them in a bridal shop. They come in just about
every color imaginable and the have styles that are not sleeveless. I have seen
a beautiful off the shoulder style at Nordies and Macy's. And they are all
under $150!
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Syeliab

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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>Where would my sister and I (she's the bride) look for reasonably-priced
>bridesmaid dresses? There are 3 bridesmaids, and we are all on the "plus"
>side (size 10 and up...). <
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Please don't say that size 10 or 12 is a "plus" size. I keep telling myself
that I am average.
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Besides, who makes up these labels anyway?????
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Tracyarts

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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Here is an idea.......

Look in the J.C. Penny catalog. I got married last Feb. and ALL the bridal
shops had only "prommy" dresses and strapless/spaghetti strap. My bridesmaids
were 28 and 38. And they were like size 14-16.

We found a pretty skirt set with a crepe ankle length straight skirt and a
matching jacket with lace overlays on the sleeves. It came in like 3 colors,
and it was much cheaper than anything out of a bridal shop.

A lot of the "holiday" type dresses are great for bridesmaids. As well as
somehting like a dinner suit or the like.

Nothing says you have to get the bridesmaids dresses in a bridal shop.....

Tracy

John Upton

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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If the wedding isn't super-formal, what about looking for a cocktail dress you
both like in a larger department store (like Saks or Hudson's)? That way, you
could get the sizes you need from other stores if that were necessary. In my
area, Hudson's carries many black evening dresses in petite, misses, and plus
sizes. In addition, I've found that department stores are often speedier when
it comes to shipping-- and, frequently, there is no additional shipping charge
if you need a different size from another store.

Best wishes to you and your sister!
Alicia U.

Lisa Drake wrote:

> Where would my sister and I (she's the bride) look for reasonably-priced
> bridesmaid dresses? There are 3 bridesmaids, and we are all on the "plus"

Taffy Cheerful

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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josl...@aol.comnospam (JoslynMB) wrote:

> Alex evening makes nice bridesmaids dresses up to size 18.
> They can even be special ordered if you can find them in a
> bridal shop. They come in just about every color imaginable
> and the have styles that are not sleeveless.

But do they have flowergirl dresses up to a size 18 as well?

Taffy
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Heather218

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Jan 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/4/99
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i always thought a plus size would be 18 but most of the plus size stores start
at a 14/16 ... some clothes go up to a 16...
Heather
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Joel Weber

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Jan 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/4/99
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I have a theory about bridesmaid dresses. Most women know that they're going
to have to break off relations with their best friends after they're
married. So, they put them in the most Godawful dresses and colors they can
find knowing that their former friends will never speak to them again (thus
solving the problem).

joel
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>>
>> i always thought a plus size would be 18 but most of the plus size stores start
>> at a 14/16 ... some clothes go up to a 16...
>

>But bridesmaids dresses (and bridal stuff, as well) use dressmaker
>sizes, which are around two sizes smaller than ready-to-wear. So a 10 at
>the mall of your choice would be a 14 in a bridesmaid dress-- or a
>pattern.
>
>-S.
>

Sara Jane Patterson

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Jan 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/5/99
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S wrote:
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> But bridesmaids dresses (and bridal stuff, as well) use dressmaker
> sizes, which are around two sizes smaller than ready-to-wear. So a 10 at
> the mall of your choice would be a 14 in a bridesmaid dress-- or a
> pattern.
>
So that's why I was a 10 in the hideous dres I had to wear as an
attendant at a friend's wedding, but I'm a six or eight normally.

But what is "dressmaker sizing?" Is it like sewing-pattern sizing,
which I've noticed varies quite a bit from designer or mall or catalogue
sizing? (For example, a Size-12 Vogue Pattern has measurements of
34-24-36, which is a Size-4 in J. Crew!) I've also noticed that the
sizing in old Sears catalogues is a lot different from modern sizing.
In the 1950s, a Size-8 had a 32-inch bustline. Now, that's a Size-2 or
even smaller!
-SJP

Sara Jane Patterson

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Jan 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/6/99
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S wrote:

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> Sara Jane wrote:
> >
> >(For example, a Size-12 Vogue Pattern has measurements of
> > 34-24-36, which is a Size-4 in J. Crew!) I've also noticed that the
> > sizing in old Sears catalogues is a lot different from modern sizing.
> > In the 1950s, a Size-8 had a 32-inch bustline. Now, that's a Size-2 or
> > even smaller!
>
> But remember, people are bigger (and taller) today (not just fatter,
> y'all. Let's not go there again just yet.), women don't wear girdles any
> more, and bra shapes (which impact bustline measurements and relative
> placement vertically) are a function of fashion.
>
> OTOH, I suspect that as the boomers continue to age, each size will
> continue to grow.
>
It still doesn't make sense. Why use numbers in the first place?
What's the "average" supposed to be? Ten, as in the "perfect 10" of the
Olympics? Is that what's going on, adjusting size measurents to account
for the ever-increasing "average?

Wouldn't it be much simpler to just use waist measurement or bust
measurement? (Men's shirts use neck measurements, which always seemed
strange to me.) That way, we'd dispel a lot of angst over fitting into
an arbitrary size, AND shopping would be easier since we wouldn't have
to try on three or four of the same garment to account for vagaries in
what each manufacturer thinks a "10" (or whatever) is. We could just
but shirts or sweaters in size 36 (or whatever), and pants or skirts in
size 26 (or whatever). Dresses and coats could use chest measurements,
as men's coats do.

Stephen M. Gardner

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Jan 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/6/99
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S wrote:
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Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
curious. ;-)

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Jjjjjulie

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Jan 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/7/99
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>From: "Stephen M. Gardner" <gar...@metronet.com>
>Message-ID: <36942610...@metronet.com>

> Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
>curious. ;-)

I know from personal experience that 'x-no-archive= yes' only works if:

1. you remember to add it to your post every time
2. you spell all of the words correctly

Otherwise I think Dejanews is pretty reliable when it comes to honoring it.


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Stephen M. Gardner

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Jjjjjulie wrote:
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> >From: "Stephen M. Gardner" <gar...@metronet.com>
> >Message-ID: <36942610...@metronet.com>
>
> > Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
> >curious. ;-)
>
> I know from personal experience that 'x-no-archive= yes' only works if:
>
> 1. you remember to add it to your post every time
> 2. you spell all of the words correctly
>
> Otherwise I think Dejanews is pretty reliable when it comes to honoring it.
Take a look for yourself. S's posts are there, 'x-no-archive= yes' and
all. ;-) Perhaps the space between the '=' and the 'yes' is the problem.

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> Have you first searched Dejanews (www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shmtl)?

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Jjjjjulie

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Jan 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/7/99
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>From: "Stephen M. Gardner"
>Message-ID: <3694A9E6...@metronet.com>

> Take a look for yourself. S's posts are there, 'x-no-archive= yes' and
>all. ;-) Perhaps the space between the '=' and the 'yes' is the problem.

I spotchecked 6 or 7. Guess what? They all either (1) didn't use the
convention or (2) it was typed incorrectly somehow. That satisfies me that
Dejanews does seem to honor this convention.

Mitch

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Jan 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/7/99
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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:49:22 -0400, Stephanie <cori...@shore.net>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
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>I am an active x-no-archiver. This nifty code works for the original post but does
>nothing when others quote your post without the code as the very first line. Hey,
>that's life ..... You can always "nuke" the few that slip through the cracks, but
>only if you are the original poster.
>-steph

Why don't you put it in the headers where it belongs?

Mitch

Jjjjjulie

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>From: haga...@metnet.edu (Mitch)
<36952d59....@news.mn.mediaone.net


>Why don't you put it in the headers where it belongs?
>
>Mitch

Because not everyone's newsreader offers this access to header information.

Stellaglo

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Jan 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/8/99
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Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
> >curious. ;-)


more importantly, why should i care???? why would i post anything i wouldn't
want everyone to be able to read, since presumably anyone can access this stuff
anyhow???
i'm actually seriously asking.

Taffy Cheerful

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stel...@aol.com (Stellaglo) responded to:

>> Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
>> curious. ;-)
>

> More importantly, why should I care???? Why would I post anything I


> wouldn't want everyone to be able to read, since presumably anyone can

> access this stuff anyhow??? I'm actually seriously asking.

Excellent question! I am amused by the number of times I have read
posts by x-no-archive users recommend to others that they should look up
the answer to their question on DejaNews. Somehow the linkage between
the concept of a "repository" and the understanding of how a repository
is created is beyond them... Even the most foolish can have brilliant
flashes of insight.

Taffy (who likes being consistent in word and deed, wearing the pink
satin slippers she got for Christmas)

Stellaglo

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> I am amused by the number of times I have read
>posts by x-no-archive users recommend to others that they should look up
>the answer to their question on DejaNews.

ha ha ha, most excellent point, taffy!!! one poster immediately springs to
mind...

Jjjjjulie

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Jan 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/8/99
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Taffy Cheerful wrote:

> stel...@aol.com (Stellaglo) responded to:
>
> >> Are you aware that your posts still get archived in Dejanews? Just
> >> curious. ;-)
> >
> > More importantly, why should I care???? Why would I post anything I
> > wouldn't want everyone to be able to read, since presumably anyone can
> > access this stuff anyhow??? I'm actually seriously asking.
>

> Excellent question! I am amused by the number of times I have read


> posts by x-no-archive users recommend to others that they should look up

> the answer to their question on DejaNews. Somehow the linkage between
> the concept of a "repository" and the understanding of how a repository
> is created is beyond them... Even the most foolish can have brilliant
> flashes of insight.


1. People haver a myriad of reasons for using the "x-no-archive" option and
are under absolutely no obligation to justify it to anyone.

2. Usenet was not created as a "respository." Nor is that its purpose. That
idea came about with Dejanews and Alta Vista as a way to provide a service AND,
more importantly, to come up with an idea to make a profit--this "repository"
idea was imposed on Usenet from without, not from within. Therefore it is only
fitting that people are allowed to opt out.

Taffy Cheerful

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Jan 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/9/99
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jjjj...@aol.com (Jjjjjulie) wrote:

> 1. People haver a myriad of reasons for using the "x-no-archive" option
> and are under absolutely no obligation to justify it to anyone.

Absolutely correct...

> 2. Usenet was not created as a "respository." Nor is that its purpose.

Correct again. It was created to share scientific and technical knowledge
and the alt hierarchy was added later to placate those not interested in
technical subjects.

> That idea came about with Dejanews and Alta Vista as a way to provide a
> service AND, more importantly, to come up with an idea to make a profit
> --this "repository" idea was imposed on Usenet from without, not from
> within.

Correct yet again. Many useful services came about in similar fashion.
Curiously, some derived or "downstream" services are much more popular
than the original service itself.

> Therefore it is only fitting that people are allowed to opt out.

Right on. High marks! My quibble is with people who, hearing a
question for the 127th time from a newbie, suggests that the newbie go
look it up on DejaNews, only to have the newbie discover that the person
who recommended the search is not in there...

Taffy

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