Transgender Equality Scam in Ontario

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Diane

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Mar 4, 2001, 3:25:21 PM3/4/01
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:05:39 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
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> Updated Oct 2000, Nov 2000
>
>During the years I've been promoting legal equality for transgendered
>people I've been asked a lot of questions. Often these are questions about
>very basic issues. The following is a sampler of some of the more common
>questions I'm asked, along with a few issues that have been brought to my
>attention.
>
>If you have further questions about transgender equality and human rights
>law in Ontario Canada, or if you have comments or suggestions about this


Be advised that the person promoting this scam has, in the past, asked
for $50 to file paperwork that is completely free of charge to file at
the following website:

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/index2.htm

The person above, Laura Blake, is not a lawyer nor has any paralegal
training. This person will tell you that s/he has been associated
somehow with the OHRC but a call to then at :

1-800-387-9080

will indicate that they have never heard of this person nor does this
person have any association with them.

Do NOT pay this person any sum of money and please contact the
commission first before making any decisions

As for this person's alleged record on "promoting legal equality for
transgendered people " - I suggest you pay attention to the following
direct quotes from this person taken from the Internet:

Please ask yourself if this is the kind of person you wish to
represent you before the OHRC:


Laura Blake said on 8/8/2000:

Honey, it's been my lifelong experience that
only two kinds people get all pissed off when
you question them... 1) Criminals and 2) Liars...
the rest seem quite able to explain their actions
and ideas very nicely.
Which category would you have me put transsexuals in?


Laura Blake said on 5/7/2000:

Oh gees... here it comes... Yet another dumb assed
TS who just doesn't know what's really going on.
Lisa... do you have any idea how severely deluded
it is for a person with a penis between their legs
to claim to be female???

Laura Blake said on 6/13/2000:

Look Joann... I know it's beyond your
comprehension... but we had a really good thing
starting to happen here before you and your cunt
monger buddies decided to take over the place

Laura Blake said on 4/30/00:

I've changed policy, advised governments, tackled
bigots, gotten laws changed,...But, everytime I've
needed a little support what do I get? Diagnoses,
put downs, people telling me to fuck off, friends
turning on me, people jumping down my throat....

.. you are simply waiting for me to show any small
sign of weakness before launching your attack.
And why? Because you have fallen into the trap
of believing my detrators ...

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Diane

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Mar 4, 2001, 9:01:23 PM3/4/01
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:00:05 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
wrote:
>Hmmmm.... Who would you believe?

You'll note that L Blake never actually denies making the direct
quotes that I posted.

You'll have to decide if you want such a person as your "advocate".
Here are a few more "references" from L. Blake:


Laura Blake said on 9/13/99:
Get used to it asshole, this is not a place
that I am going to let you TS bitches take
over... and if I have to burn the whole
fucking place thing right to the ground
to prevent it, I will.


Laura Blake said on 6/20/2000 :
I do have a short list of people I hate sufficiently
that I might be prone to harm them, should I ever
find myself in their presence.
This list includes a number of transsexuals


Laura Blake said on 8/14/99:
...in 1991 and 1992 I sent an announcement
(with copies of supporting documents)
to each of the transgender groups in
Canada telling them what had been
done and what needed to be done next.
By and large I was told to fuck off.


The OHRC maintains a staff of *professional* advocates who will, at no
cost to you, help you prepare your complaint for submission. You will
have to decide whether you want someone like that to assist you or
someone who says the things quoted above.


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Diane

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Mar 5, 2001, 12:26:15 AM3/5/01
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:24:09 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:01:23 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:
>>The OHRC maintains a staff of *professional* advocates who will, at no
>>cost to you, help you prepare your complaint for submission.
>

>BZZZZT.... wrong!
>
>The OHRC is an investigative body. They are mandated to remain neutral in
>every case that comes their way. Their sole mission is to accept
>complaints, investigate them for merrit then attempt to resolve them.....

From the OHRC website at :

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/index2.htm

"Intake services involve the receipt of Intake Questionnaires, an
assessment of whether the issues raised are within the mandate of the
Ontario Human Rights Commission, interviewing the Complainant where
necessary, drafting legally sound complaints and having the complaints
signed by the Complainant and served upon the parties (the Respondents
responsible for the alleged discrimination). There are currently six
(6) Intake Officers responsible for fulfilling the intake function
within the Commission."

...........

I leave it to the individual if they would want their case "handled"
by a person with so little knowledge of the process.


>> Usually
>this amounts to about $50.00 **none of which** goes into my pocket. In
>fact, my last few clients....

How can you have "clients" when you are neither a lawyer nor a
paralegal?

>And they will have to decide whether you want to take advice from the likes
>of Diane... someone who is *obviously* suffering a 10 year long compulsive
>obsession with defaming another human being.

And of course we have your latest direct quote listed over in
soc.support.transgendered:

Laura Blake said on 3/4/2001
" Ever notice how good looking all the *dead* transsexuals are?"

'Nuff said.

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anni

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Mar 5, 2001, 7:36:21 AM3/5/01
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Hi just a little confused

Laura posts info for people with trangendered rights problems ....Diane
then says its a scam/could be a scam...I am new to this group but from what
I have read so far Laura has not asked for any money ????

" She has in the past ..." which is defened by "it was used for photocopying
etc etc"

Well I just went and had a quick look at all the links provided and no one
including Laura asked me for money ...

So I ask Diane .... Is this thing personal...?

I have "clients" and am neither a paralegal or lawyer and if people are
prepared to pay $50.00 for a service (laura's) and laura does what she says
she will do then how can this be a scam??

Sorry Diane I don't see too much evidence of a scam.

If that point is established then the rest of the discussion that has been
had so far is pointless

Anni

Laura Blake <ldb...@region.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:26:15 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:
> >>The OHRC is an investigative body. They are mandated to remain neutral
in
> >>every case that comes their way. Their sole mission is to accept
> >>complaints, investigate them for merrit then attempt to resolve
them.....
> >
> >From the OHRC website at :
> >
> >http://www.ohrc.on.ca/index2.htm
> >
> >"Intake services involve the receipt of Intake Questionnaires, an
> >assessment of whether the issues raised are within the mandate of the
> >Ontario Human Rights Commission, interviewing the Complainant where
> >necessary, drafting legally sound complaints and having the complaints
> >signed by the Complainant and served upon the parties (the Respondents
> >responsible for the alleged discrimination). There are currently six
> >(6) Intake Officers responsible for fulfilling the intake function
> >within the Commission."
>

> This doesn't say the commission represents complainant interest. It only
> says they will help you fill out the forms. They cannot both represent
the
> complainant and investigate the complaint... that is a plain and obvious
> conflict of interest.


>
>
> >How can you have "clients" when you are neither a lawyer nor a
> >paralegal?
>

> In plain fact... you neither know what my credentials are nor what
services
> I provide to my clients.


>
>
> >>And they will have to decide whether you want to take advice from the
likes
> >>of Diane... someone who is *obviously* suffering a 10 year long
compulsive
> >>obsession with defaming another human being.
> >
> >And of course we have your latest direct quote listed over in
> >soc.support.transgendered:
> >
> >Laura Blake said on 3/4/2001
> >" Ever notice how good looking all the *dead* transsexuals are?"
>
>

> Yep... like I said... a compulsive need to defame others. You can't stop
> yourself can you? Your psychosis is such that you *have* to make a fool
of
> yourself this way... isn't it?
>
> Oh wait... let me guess... you're off your Zoloft again, aren't you?
>
> Laura Blake
> -----
> Looking for good support?
> http://www.topica.com/lists/tgsp
> No flames -- No Fees -- No Spam
> -----


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Diane

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Mar 6, 2001, 3:05:38 AM3/6/01
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:40:45 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
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>


>In plain fact... you neither know what my credentials are nor what services
>I provide to my clients

But I do.

You're just some person with a chip on their shoulder who's neither a
lawyer nor a paralegal nor an activist. You used to be a computer
geek some 10-13 years ago but you went on permanent disability because
you can;t hold a job and there you be in Canada.

Your daughter has a restraining order out against you so you haven't
seen her in over a decade and so you haunt the newsgroups alluding to
be things that you're not- and you're trying to get $50 for the
effort.

I think I got all that right.

Get a job Laura....stop trying to take people's money and/or trying to
be things you're not.

You're not qualified to handle anyone's complaint or be an advocate
for anyone...your abysmal behavior in this place bears this out.

Grow up and do something with your life...stop pretending...it's so
tired.


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Diane

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Mar 6, 2001, 11:12:08 AM3/6/01
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:40:37 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
wrote:

>
>You've been on my case like this for over a decade and so far not one of
>your allegations has ever been backed by a single shred of proof.

The above message was crossposted to 4 separate newsgroups:

Diane

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Mar 6, 2001, 11:26:26 AM3/6/01
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:40:37 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
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>C'mon bitch, put up or shut up... haul my ass into a courtroom and *prove*
>me a fraud.

Is this the kind of answer to opposition that you will display when
you help your chump ..oh sorry - I meant "client" prepare their
argument before the government agency?

This is why it's better to see someone with *your* best interest at
heart.

Say hello to Josephine for me laura.

April

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Mar 6, 2001, 12:17:56 PM3/6/01
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"Diane" wrote in

> You're just some person with a chip on their shoulder who's neither a
> lawyer nor a paralegal nor an activist. You used to be a computer
> geek some 10-13 years ago but you went on permanent disability because
> you can;t hold a job and there you be in Canada.

Diane, Diane, Diane,
Of all the girls, that frequent this NG, I thought maybe you, would
understand my post "Blabbermouth", more than most. To quote a
phrase from the movie "Cool Hand Luke", "What we have here, is a
falure to communicate".

I don't know that Laura is disabled, like definitons of words, there
are different kinds of disabiltity. I can't hold a job, beyond my wanting
to be with a company. Why? I don't conform to most rules and customs.
Why? Because, I was taught that there has always got to be a better way.
In business its my way or the highway. I've seen plenty of road in my time,
but I've not forgotten were I've been, were I'm going, or what compel's
me to get there. When I reach the fork in the road, than that's a
decision I have to make for myself.

I've also seen posted by one of the girls, and I'm sure I'll get
corrected if I'm wrong, the ability to jump the fence, mentally. Some
think I talk in circles, when in reality, I try to post in a different view.
Regardless of the language, if you have a closed mind, than thats what
you have.........a closed mind. I would have to attribute my ability
to view both sides of the fence, because in HS, I broke my wrist on my
writing hand, my biology teacher, made me learn how to write with
my oppisite hand. Full essay's.

So maybe I can relate here, we all have attitudes. Laura has one, you
have one, I have one, and everybody else has one. Why can't we crank
back the negativity, just a little bit. It would be a start. How can one
relate, not having traveled down the other's path.

Why can't we put down the guns, bury the axe, plant the seed,
"Grow Together" ?

So I Ask, Who can we seek? What can we do? Where can
we help? When can we start? Why can't we agree?


Unity gets the job done.......

April

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Diane

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Mar 6, 2001, 11:21:27 PM3/6/01
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:06:05 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
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>
>
>So... after all these years and all your claims.... where's your *poof*, eh?

Currently it's crossposting on four separate newsgroups <g>.

Paula

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:11:54 AM3/7/01
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come on girls - you are behaving (badly) like a pair of spoilt brats
squabbling in a street brawl!

Neither of you is adding to the "newsgroups" to which you cross-post with
selfish gay abandon.

GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!


Laura Blake <ldb...@region.net> wrote in message
news:3aa341da...@news.region.net...
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:26:15 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:
> >>The OHRC is an investigative body. They are mandated to remain neutral
in
> >>every case that comes their way. Their sole mission is to accept
> >>complaints, investigate them for merrit then attempt to resolve
them.....
> >
> >From the OHRC website at :
> >
> >http://www.ohrc.on.ca/index2.htm
> >
> >"Intake services involve the receipt of Intake Questionnaires, an
> >assessment of whether the issues raised are within the mandate of the
> >Ontario Human Rights Commission, interviewing the Complainant where
> >necessary, drafting legally sound complaints and having the complaints
> >signed by the Complainant and served upon the parties (the Respondents
> >responsible for the alleged discrimination). There are currently six
> >(6) Intake Officers responsible for fulfilling the intake function
> >within the Commission."
>
> This doesn't say the commission represents complainant interest. It only
> says they will help you fill out the forms. They cannot both represent
the
> complainant and investigate the complaint... that is a plain and obvious
> conflict of interest.
>
>

> >How can you have "clients" when you are neither a lawyer nor a
> >paralegal?


>
> In plain fact... you neither know what my credentials are nor what
services

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Paula

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:16:49 AM3/7/01
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GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

news:3aa2bfc9...@news.region.net...


> On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:25:21 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:
> >Be advised that the person promoting this scam
>

> People... you have a choice... You can believe a tired old flame queen
who's
> day has long past or you can contact me and get the information you need
> directly from source.
>
> My e-mail (ldb...@region.net) and phone number (1-905-688-1309) are both
> in the FAQ, they are both direct to me contacts, I will answer both or
> either personally... If you want references I will be happy to provide
> them. If you want to see documentation, I've over 10,000 pages in my
files
> to back up my claims.
>
> Now... lets see how Diane stacks up... fake e-mail address, no phone
> number, no references, no proof of anything... messages filled with
nothing
> but ranting hatred....


>
> Hmmmm.... Who would you believe?
>

Paula

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:19:02 AM3/7/01
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GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

> >Be advised that the person promoting this scam
>

Stacey Turner

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Mar 7, 2001, 4:05:01 AM3/7/01
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Paula;

Look into 'Killfiles' in outlook express. Adding a few parties
to your killfile does wonders for the readability of this group.

Sadly, these hatemongers and close-minded selfish bickering
children are still seen by the new visitors, and may be
scaring off some really wonderful people :(. Any points that
either of them still think they have to make can surely be made
via private messages, but they are more interrested in the
attention than the content of their discourse (Look at me! LOOK
AT *ME*"). Rather sad, actually.

Someday, maybe they will realize that they are BOTH wrong if all
they are doing is clowding the air with their hatred and bile.


paul...@btinternet.com (Paula) wrote let it be known in
<984g9o$nb1$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>:

>come on girls - you are behaving (badly) like a pair of
>spoilt brats squabbling in a street brawl!
>
>Neither of you is adding to the "newsgroups" to which you
>cross-post with selfish gay abandon.
>
>GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

--
Stacy T

Diane

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Mar 7, 2001, 10:52:04 AM3/7/01
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 05:17:53 GMT, ldb...@region.net (Laura Blake)
wrote:

>
>Oh well... I guess I'll just let you keep pissing into the wind... yer all
>lies and bullshit, hardly worth any more of my time.

Thank you, once again, for proving my point better then anyone ever
could <g>.


Vera Lynn

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Mar 7, 2001, 1:13:09 PM3/7/01
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In article <984gdu$nhr$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Paula
<paul...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> come on girls - you are behaving (badly) like a pair of spoilt brats
> squabbling in a street brawl!

They've been doing it for years, and it's always the same blather. You
expect them to stop now?

V.L.

--
I know we'll meet again, some sunny day

Paula

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Mar 7, 2001, 5:25:26 PM3/7/01
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paul...@btinternet.com (Paula) wrote let it be known in
<984g9o$nb1$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>:

>come on girls - you are behaving (badly) like a pair of


>spoilt brats squabbling in a street brawl!
>

>Neither of you is adding to the "newsgroups" to which you
>cross-post with selfish gay abandon.
>
>GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!

Laura Blake <ldb...@region.net> wrote in message

news:3aa5c378...@news.region.net...


> On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:21:27 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:
>
> >>So... after all these years and all your claims.... where's your *poof*,
eh?
> >
> >Currently it's crossposting on four separate newsgroups <g>.
>

> So your grand proof of my wrongdoing is that this thread **which you
> started** is being crossposted?
>
> R.O.F.L. Is that the best you can do?


>
> Oh well... I guess I'll just let you keep pissing into the wind... yer all
> lies and bullshit, hardly worth any more of my time.
>

> Rave on sweety...

Paula

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Mar 7, 2001, 5:29:59 PM3/7/01
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Oh my God! Will you all just stop this shit??? This is the biggest load of
shit
i have ever seen in my life! The flaming has got to come to an end...
permenantly! You are all acting like a bunch of twits with nothing better to
do
than rub each other raw. I dont always agree with what LB or Stephe says,
but
they do make some good points once in awhile, but then again nobody will
ever
always agree with another human being. Its what makes us all individuals.
Diane, if you say LB is a phony then prove it, otherwise shut up and quit
flaming everyone that doesnt agree with you! The point of this group is
support! LB,Stephe, and anyone else thats been flamed, ignore the flamers
and
they will go away. It truly makes me ill to see all the stupid shit that
gets
posted here... GROW UP!!!!!!! Diane, i have to agree with what LB and Stephe
say about you... you show no support of any kind to anyone unless they
totally
agree with you. But i have seen LB and Stephe try to help others... and i
have
seen them both say to folks to make thier own decisions.... believe it or
not.
This is utter nonsense! I remember when more than just 4 -6 people posted
here,
but due to the flaming nobody but the flamers and those being flamed post
now.... stop this bullshit and lets get back to the business this group was
meant for, SUPPORT of CDer's! I do believe that this is
alt.support.crossdressing. And if you're an alt.srs.support person, why the
hell are you posting here anyway? And another thing, stop crossposting! Damn
people, pull your heads out!


Carrie

paul...@btinternet.com (Paula) wrote let it be known in
<984g9o$nb1$2...@uranium.btinternet.com>:

>come on girls - you are behaving (badly) like a pair of
>spoilt brats squabbling in a street brawl!
>
>Neither of you is adding to the "newsgroups" to which you
>cross-post with selfish gay abandon.
>
>GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!


Laura Blake <ldb...@region.net> wrote in message

news:3aa2bfc9...@news.region.net...
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:25:21 -0800, Diane <Di...@not.here.com> wrote:

> >Be advised that the person promoting this scam
>

> People... you have a choice... You can believe a tired old flame queen
who's
> day has long past or you can contact me and get the information you need
> directly from source.
>
> My e-mail (ldb...@region.net) and phone number (1-905-688-1309) are both
> in the FAQ, they are both direct to me contacts, I will answer both or
> either personally... If you want references I will be happy to provide
> them. If you want to see documentation, I've over 10,000 pages in my
files
> to back up my claims.
>
> Now... lets see how Diane stacks up... fake e-mail address, no phone
> number, no references, no proof of anything... messages filled with
nothing
> but ranting hatred....
>
> Hmmmm.... Who would you believe?
>

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