Wearing a skirt on campus -- should I?
Paige St-Croix
Dear all,
Once again, thank you for all your advice and support so far -- it's
been great!
Right now, I am trying to decide whether or not to wear any of the
skirts and a skort that I bought onto campus or around my college
town. People here are pretty liberal, and the weather's getting so
hot (California) that it would be a pleasure comfortwise to wear a
skirt. In fact, I may just buy a light, long, broomstick-pleated
skirt because of the hot weather! But, at the same time, I know my
classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
and as I've at least *looked* pretty conservative up till now, I'm
worried about what their reaction would be. To say nothing of my
professors!
I'd LOOVE to wear my new skirts and skort on campus. I've been
working out and my legs are looking pretty sexy (*I* think!), and I
*think* some GG's around campus might get a kick out of me in a short
skirt or skort. It's pretty boring having all these (well, 3) things
to wear, which I know look good on me, yet feeling that if I do put
them on I'll be branded as a freak as soon as I step onto campus or
into class. =(
Any advice? Anyone in similar shoes? Any hints for easy ways to do
this or first steps?
Hugs, Paige/Monet (desperate to wear her new things!!!)
stephe
>
> Any advice? Anyone in similar shoes? Any hints for easy ways to do
> this or first steps?
>
wearing cute pastel soft cotton shorts and most have a skirt shaped cut
so look pretty fem.. might see how that goes and you'll get to show off
those legs!
--
Hugs Stephe
Stephe's T* Home http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/8187
Phoebe
>Dear all,
>
>Once again, thank you for all your advice and support so far -- it's
>been great!
>
>Right now, I am trying to decide whether or not to wear any of the
>skirts and a skort that I bought onto campus or around my college
>town.
Be sure to SMILE for the inevitable front-page picture!! (And wear
undies in case it's breezy)
Hugs, Phoebe
* * * A girl is never older than her bust size * * *
Holly Ashe
When I was in college, my roomate and I would wear kilts and our girlfriends
skirts to classes. We never got any flack for it. It was all about,
hmmm...my jeans are in the wash, better find something else to wear.
holly
NoelleRose
In article <3541FA...@hotmail.com>, Paige St-Croix
<paiges...@hotmail.com> writes:
>It's pretty boring having all these (well, 3) things
>to wear, which I know look good on me, yet feeling that if I do put
>them on I'll be branded as a freak as soon as I step onto campus or
>into class. =(
Hey, go for it, or you'll wish you had.
Hugs,
Noelle
Amy_w
>Right now, I am trying to decide whether or not to wear any of the
>skirts and a skort that I bought onto campus or around my college
>town.
the 'new age' stuff or what?
I mean, it'll be a lot 'freakier', if you walk around in a cheerleader
skirt then in a long 'hippie style' skirt.
Of course, it will be a little weird anyway, but California is a weird
place, as far as I could see in the week, I spent there ;-)
>skirt because of the hot weather! But, at the same time, I know my
>classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
weird science, huh? ;-)
Why do scientist always have to be nerdy little guys with thick glasses?
<caution, humour>. I asked this to myself the first time, I attended my
classes at the university.
>and as I've at least *looked* pretty conservative up till now, I'm
>worried about what their reaction would be. To say nothing of my
>professors!
Well - I guess the reacation would be different, but nobody will beat
you up for it. But maybe you should 'prepare' them by wearing something
else than the usual 'jeans and t-shirt' before.
>them on I'll be branded as a freak as soon as I step onto campus or
>into class. =(
Well - it will be unavoidable to be the 'weird guy', if you do something
like that. But I guess, it can be fun to surprise people.
You sure will get a lot of attention :-). Some people like that...
Just make sure, you don't go for it with shame or guilt, but with
pride and a smile of the face. And if people stare, stare back and smile.
There is nothing dangerous or freaky about a person, who can still smile :-)
Byeeee
Amy
(wishing to do the same as you do sometimes...)
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Felix Schroeter
Hello!
In article <6i07aj$88t$6...@news.metronet.de>, Amy_w <Am...@gmx.net> wrote:
>[...]
>>skirt because of the hot weather! But, at the same time, I know my
>>classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
>weird science, huh? ;-)
>Why do scientist always have to be nerdy little guys with thick glasses?
><caution, humour>. I asked this to myself the first time, I attended my
>classes at the university.
Hmmm. I see no problem at the university I attend. I'm studying
computer science (called "Informatik" over here). But OTOH, it may
be that the "weird" or freaks accumulate in CS :-)
That's my usual skirt, male/unisex T-shirt, sandals, long hair, earrings
(3 each ear), some other jewelry (necklaces, anklet if the temperature
allows me to omit the socks) combo. (Not to forget my beard which
is the most un-passable part of me probably :-) )
>[...]
Regards, Felix.
Felix Schroeter
Hello!
In article <3541FA...@hotmail.com>,
Paige St-Croix <paiges...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>[...]
>Right now, I am trying to decide whether or not to wear any of the
>skirts and a skort that I bought onto campus or around my college
>town.
I'd do it (and am doing it). But you are not me and your situation
is not exactly like mine.
> People here are pretty liberal, and the weather's getting so
>hot (California) that it would be a pleasure comfortwise to wear a
>skirt.
One point for doing it.
> In fact, I may just buy a light, long, broomstick-pleated
>skirt because of the hot weather!
Yet another one :-) (I'd like to find and buy such a skirt, too.
They most probably *are* very good looking, sensual and comfortable.)
> But, at the same time, I know my
>classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
Sciences aren't necessarily an indicator for low tolerance. I'm
studying computer science over here in Germany. On one hand, I think
universities (and other places) here in Germany are more tolerant in
general than over there (in the US). E.g. dress codes are virtually
unheard of at public schools (only few pupils visit private ones),
universities, even in most companies (though there are professions
where you are required to wear "appropriate" [i.e. for men that ugly
business style :-E] attire, e.g. bank clerks, most other people
with much customer contact]). On the other hand, I think CS is one
haven where weirdos or freaks come together.
>and as I've at least *looked* pretty conservative up till now, I'm
>worried about what their reaction would be.
I worried that about my friends and relatives when I thought about
wearing skirts publicly. You can't really know without trying. But
many experiences show to me that in my case (and probably in rather
some others) the main hindrance is not without, but within yourself,
namely your fears, and your own discomfort with your "weird" self
(mind the quotes!).
> To say nothing of my
>professors!
I'd perhaps check beforehand if there were special kinds of reaction
from professors (and other university officials) to deviant outer
appearance. (Be that long hair, jewelry, alternative clothing, or
crossdressing.) From that you could perhaps more precisely extrapolate
possible reactions towards you.
Perhaps you should check if there are any possibilities for them at
all to impose disadvantageous things upon you because of your
uncommon attire (if you do it), based on laws and other regulations
at your university. Or if there are laws and other regulations
forbidding discrimination wrt sex, sexual orientation, perhaps even
gender orientation, or self expression.
For my case, I didn't do much checks of that kind. But on the other
hand, I've looked different for a long time - first came an earstud
which I took out some time later (because of adverse reactions of the
ear). Then long hair. Some time later, I tried to reinsert an earstud
into that old hole which succeeded. And later, while at university,
I slowly expanded my expression, without experiencing any adverse
reactions by university officials (and very few at all). So that wasn't
the big thing when beginning my skirting, but as I said, the
reaction of friends and relatives was my main concern.
>I'd LOOVE to wear my new skirts and skort on campus. I've been
>working out and my legs are looking pretty sexy (*I* think!), and I
>*think* some GG's around campus might get a kick out of me in a short
>skirt or skort.
After some adverse points, again a point *for* it :-)
> It's pretty boring having all these (well, 3) things
>to wear, which I know look good on me, yet feeling that if I do put
>them on I'll be branded as a freak as soon as I step onto campus or
>into class. =(
And what would that branding harm you? I'm sure, I'm branded as weird
too. But some like and love me perhaps also *because of* that.
And some compliment me, even (but seldom) strange men and women.
>Any advice? Anyone in similar shoes? Any hints for easy ways to do
>this or first steps?
Depends. Do you want to appeare specifically feminine? Do you want
to appear as you, regardless what kind of label (fem/masculine) is
sticked on you for that? Or do you want to appear as a man who expands
his fashion horizon?
In my case, it's the middle thing that some call androgynous. Some may
call it the latter though, because I don't hide/remove a very visible
sign of my physical sex, namely my beard. (Though I remember an old portrait
of a Lady with a very developed woman-beard. She had nearly as much at
the chin as me, and more on the upper lips. But I don't remember
who she was, unfortunately.) But OTOH, I've heard "that woman has a
beard!" too.
>Hugs, Paige/Monet (desperate to wear her new things!!!)
I hope, my words help you a bit.
Regards, Felix.
Amy_w
Hi, Felix.
>>>skirt because of the hot weather! But, at the same time, I know my
>>>classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
>>Why do scientist always have to be nerdy little guys with thick glasses?
>><caution, humour>.
>Hmmm. I see no problem at the university I attend. I'm studying
>computer science (called "Informatik" over here). But OTOH, it may
>be that the "weird" or freaks accumulate in CS :-)
And the weird also accumulate in German universities (and in California) :-)
Sadly, most of the interesting people disappear after a few semesters :-(
>That's my usual skirt, male/unisex T-shirt, sandals, long hair, earrings
>(3 each ear), some other jewelry (necklaces, anklet if the temperature
>allows me to omit the socks) combo.
We're going back to the 70ies ;-).
I haven't seen anyone with a skirt at the TU München yet. But the TUM
sucks anyway...
Have fun
Bye
Amy
Amy_w
Felix Schroeter schrieb in Nachricht <6i88fv$c...@rzstud2.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>...
>Sciences aren't necessarily an indicator for low tolerance. I'm
>studying computer science over here in Germany. On one hand, I think
>universities (and other places) here in Germany are more tolerant in
>general than over there (in the US). E.g. dress codes are virtually
>unheard of at public schools
I think, that it is generally easier to get away with 'weird' things
or fashion extravaganza in Europe. Much easier than in the US anyway.
An way much easier than in many other countries...
>>them on I'll be branded as a freak as soon as I step onto campus or
>>into class. =(
>And what would that branding harm you? I'm sure, I'm branded as weird
>too. But some like and love me perhaps also *because of* that.
An you are guaranteed to be the center of attention :-)
Either the good way or the bad way...
>Depends. Do you want to appeare specifically feminine? Do you want
>to appear as you, regardless what kind of label (fem/masculine) is
>sticked on you for that? Or do you want to appear as a man who expands
>his fashion horizon?
From the things, I've read from you, I would call you the middle or last.
There's not much difference anyway as the middle is also doing the last.
You want to wear the kind of clothing and fashion that you like.
This is a good addition to this group, because most people here are
pretty extreme going for the first in your list.
Bye
Amy
dan
As a professor, I can certainly say that I'd love to see a boy in a skirt!
Felix Schroeter wrote:
> Hello!
>
> In article <6i07aj$88t$6...@news.metronet.de>, Amy_w <Am...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >[...]
>
> >>skirt because of the hot weather! But, at the same time, I know my
> >>classmates have a low tolerance for the 'weird' (I'm in the sciences)
> >weird science, huh? ;-)
> >Why do scientist always have to be nerdy little guys with thick glasses?
> ><caution, humour>. I asked this to myself the first time, I attended my
> >classes at the university.
>
> Hmmm. I see no problem at the university I attend. I'm studying
> computer science (called "Informatik" over here). But OTOH, it may
> be that the "weird" or freaks accumulate in CS :-)
>
> That's my usual skirt, male/unisex T-shirt, sandals, long hair, earrings
> (3 each ear), some other jewelry (necklaces, anklet if the temperature
Cassiopeia
Hi Lil,
Now that's something I'd like to see myself. If the teacher were wearing a
skirt to class, no one could say much if one of the students did as well.
Of course, given the somewhat primitive nature of review boards and the
like, it might be committing professional suicide if you did wear a skirt to
class. Then again, you might be able to get by with it during Halloween. I
guess it would depend on how your college/university views things normally.
If the administrators lack any sense of humor, you might have a hard time
getting by with it.
The university I went to prided itself on the professionals they used for
teaching staff (no professional teachers, just professionals from industry
who taught on the side). I was surprised how that affected the attitude of
the school. I could get by with quite a lot when it came to comfort items
like dress. OTOH, the school took a very dim view of low grades and
anything else that might affect the scholastic standing of the school in the
community. Then again, I guess that's just fine. After all, you're in
school to learn, not attend a fashion show <g>.
Cassiopeia
Lilith Papillon wrote in message
<354d9d26...@newshost.cyberramp.net>...
>On Fri, 01 May 1998 12:45:14 -0700, dan <da...@goodnet.com> wrote:
>
>Ever have the urge to teach a class in a skirt? I do some part time
>teaching and on occassion we've had instructors come to class in
>costume on Halloween. I've had some fantasies....
>
>Lil
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Bill Jones
Lilith Papillon wrote:
> On Fri, 01 May 1998 12:45:14 -0700, dan <da...@goodnet.com> wrote:
>
> >As a professor, I can certainly say that I'd love to see a boy in a
> skirt!
>
> Ever have the urge to teach a class in a skirt? I do some part time
> teaching and on occassion we've had instructors come to class in
> costume on Halloween. I've had some fantasies....
>
well...the one time I did drag, WITH my beard...six of my students
showed up to see me!
I had talked about how much work it was to design my outfit, since
everyone expected so much of me...and they all wanted to see it.
it was around haloween....
I wore a black lace over nude bustier, (very padded!) leopardskin
miniskirt (covered with clear sequins, $119. a yard)..red fishnets with
red garters with red rhinestones, red lace panties with rhinestones on
the crotch (which showed when I sat down ) long black gloves with BIG
multicoloured polka dots, Lucille Ball red BIG hair, with glitter in my
beard....fabulous eyemakeup and upper and lower lashes, and THREE flame
red feather boas!
...very understated... :-)
I did not wear this to the University, however....it was at a big party
in San Francisco....
...I have worn my kilt to school...it gets many comments...(all
good)...:-)
hugs, Bill
Felix Schroeter
Hello, Amy!
In article <6id2gk$qkj$2...@news.metronet.de>, Amy_w <Am...@gmx.net> wrote:
>[...]
>>Hmmm. I see no problem at the university I attend. I'm studying
>>computer science (called "Informatik" over here). But OTOH, it may
>>be that the "weird" or freaks accumulate in CS :-)
>And the weird also accumulate in German universities (and in California) :-)
>Sadly, most of the interesting people disappear after a few semesters :-(
Seems so. But my tendency seems to be the opposite: to stay
at university rather some more time. :-)
>>That's my usual skirt, male/unisex T-shirt, sandals, long hair, earrings
>>(3 each ear), some other jewelry (necklaces, anklet if the temperature
>>allows me to omit the socks) combo.
>We're going back to the 70ies ;-).
>I haven't seen anyone with a skirt at the TU München yet. But the TUM
>sucks anyway...
>Have fun
I have that :-)
Regards, Felix.
Felix Schroeter
Hello!
In article <354B88FE...@basingstoke.org>,
Bill Jones <wsj...@basingstoke.org> wrote:
>[...]
>well...the one time I did drag, WITH my beard...six of my students
>showed up to see me!
Sounds interesting. I have a beard too, and want to keep it, since
I expect it to be much too much work for a lazy one like me to keep
it shaved. And frankly, I like it, too (it's long, a bit on the chaotic
side on the chin, but rather short about the upper lip - it just
hasn't grown more than that till now).
>I had talked about how much work it was to design my outfit, since
>everyone expected so much of me...and they all wanted to see it.
>it was around haloween....
Hey, that's a fine tradition over there. We don't have that here, but
instead, carnival is rather common here. But there's almost no costume
wearing at school or university at that time here. About workplace,
I can't say much (yet).
>I wore a black lace over nude bustier, (very padded!) leopardskin
>miniskirt (covered with clear sequins, $119. a yard)..red fishnets with
>red garters with red rhinestones, red lace panties with rhinestones on
>the crotch (which showed when I sat down ) long black gloves with BIG
>multicoloured polka dots, Lucille Ball red BIG hair, with glitter in my
>beard....fabulous eyemakeup and upper and lower lashes, and THREE flame
>red feather boas!
How were the reactions?
>...very understated... :-)
>I did not wear this to the University, however....it was at a big party
>in San Francisco....
Costume party, or was it a rather normal party besides your dressing up?
>...I have worn my kilt to school...it gets many comments...(all
>good)...:-)
Very fine, too. I don't wear kilts (too expensive is one reason).
But I wear skirts to university (as student, not as teacher).
Mostly NO comments. Some neat comments, some interested questions.
>hugs, Bill
Regards, Felix.