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Galahad and Ickenham in the same book?

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maud.the.g...@spammer.die.die.die.invalid

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Dec 29, 2000, 2:55:33 AM12/29/00
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Oh mighty group, your abundant wisdom shines like the sun on a glorious
summer day at Blandings Castle, your voice is as melodious as that of
Madeline Bassett telling Bertie Wooster that he must be very, very brave
because she is not going to marry him,

Er. Sorry, I've been posting too often to rhod ;-).

My question deals with a book which is supposed to feature both Galahad
Threepwood and Lord Ickenham IN THE SAME BOOK. When I was a slip of a girl,
my neighbour Madhavi, usually a reliable source, told me that she had
actually read such a book, but had forgotten its name.

After a long and fruitless (or should it be bootless?) quest for said book,
I decided to ask this group for help. Does anybody know if such a book
exists, and if so, can you give me its name?

Thanks,
Maud, now a grandmother (or is it taken?)

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James Fung

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Dec 29, 2000, 3:35:51 AM12/29/00
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What ho!

Running through my well thumbed list of books...

Fish Preferred/Summer Lightning (Gally)
Heavy Weather (Gally)
Young Men in Spats: Uncle Fred Flits By (Uncle Fred)
Uncle Fred in the Springtime (Uncle Fred)
Full Moon (Gally)
Uncle Dynamite (Uncle Fred)
Pigs Have Wings (Gally)
Cocktail Time (Uncle Fred)
Service With a Smile (Uncle Fred)
The Brinkmanship of Galahad Threepwood/Galahad at Blandings (believe it or
not, Gally)
Plum Pie: Sticky Wicket at Blandings (Gally)
A Pelican at Blandings/No Nudes is Good Nudes (Gally)

Searching up and down the list, I don't see them ever overlapping. I think
the mixture would just be too rich, and PGW in his sagacy spread them around
to spread sweetness and light more uniformly. I mean, if you have one
scheme-weaving, impostor-inviting, aunt-thwarting (or should that be
sister?) pentagenarian at Blandings, do you really need two? I believe they
have mentioned each other at some point, getting thrown out of dance halls
when they were slips of lads, but appear in the same book? Ah, well, my
memory is not what it used to be (not that *that* was very much to begin
with...) and I have been trumped by brainier coves on this list before.

Pay no attention to the man muttering to himself.

~An Egg

P.S. http://wodehouse.ru/watkyn/nomlist.htm

That should be the latest list of Noms-de-Plum. If you're interested in
Belpher, Patricia Maud of Belpher Castle, Belpher, Hants, you're in luck.
Just contact Bonzo at the email below. Ta!

bbe...@voyager.net

P.P.S. Sadly, I must commit one of George Bevan's peeves, writing
postscripts. *sigh*

--

Say it with flower-pots!
-- "Leave it to Psmith," P.G. Wodehouse


The Mixer

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Dec 29, 2000, 10:09:49 AM12/29/00
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An Egg wrote:

> P.S. http://wodehouse.ru/watkyn/nomlist.htm
>
> That should be the latest list of Noms-de-Plum. If you're interested in
> Belpher, Patricia Maud of Belpher Castle, Belpher, Hants, you're in luck.

I don't believe Maudie Wilberforce, the new bride of Lord Yaxley, or Maudie
Stubbs, the niece of Sebastian Beach and new bride of Sir Gregory
Parsloe-Parsloe, have been taken yet either. (Is there some rule in Wodehouse
that middle-aged former barmaids have to be called "Maudie"?)

The Mixer

david

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Jan 6, 2001, 3:40:34 PM1/6/01
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In "Service with a Smile", if I'm not mistaken, Emsworth invites Uncle Fred
to the Castle after he recalls that Gally approved of Uncle Fred.And if
Gally approves, what more need be said?


Adrian Mulliner

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> What ho!
>

snip snip

disgusted

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Jan 8, 2001, 7:23:59 PM1/8/01
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"david" <gain...@netvision.net.il> wrote in message
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> In "Service with a Smile", if I'm not mistaken, Emsworth invites Uncle
Fred
> to the Castle after he recalls that Gally approved of Uncle Fred.And if
> Gally approves, what more need be said?

mmm...Yes, but they don't actually stand side by side, making the world
unsafe for aunt and baronet alike, thank goodness. The original poster was
right; the mixture would be too rich. Imagine Gally, Uncle Fred, Psmith and
Jeeves, all tanked up on Mulliner's Buck-u-up-o (spelled wrong, I know). It
wouldn't make a good story because the powers of evil would be as dust
before their chariot wheels. PGW had to ration out his heroes book by book
to allow scope for a plot running to a certain ammount of dramatic tension.


James Fung

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Jan 8, 2001, 11:35:51 PM1/8/01
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What ho!

I remember the latter section of Sunset at Blandings saying that old Plum
was considering having Jeeves (and presumably Bertie) mixing it with the
Blandings lot. He had already put in some of the initial spadework. I
believe Bertie mentions staying at Blandings at one point (where, can anyone
tell me?), not to mention hobnobbing with Freddie and Tipton Plimsoll (BTW,
reading Pigs Have Wings, I came across the expression Plimsoll Mark. Surely
not any relation, or is it?). Everyone remember that Edward Jimpson
Murgatroyd, Harley Street's answer to light pink spots, was recommended to
Wooster by Tipton? Yes? Capital, capital, but I'm straying from the res. The
J&W duo may have sojourned to Blandings, but I suppose nothing particularly
fascinating went on for Bertie to tell us Drones about it in depth.

Bobbie Wickham features somewhat prominently in the tales of Wooster and
Mulliner. Rummy thing, I always thought of that Red Headed Jezebel as a
locality of Wooster's world, when actually she appeared in Mr. Mulliner
Speaking before Very Good, Jeeves. (Anyone know when she was first published
in a magazine?) But she not really a defining feature of either epic, so I
guess this wouldn't be considered "worlds colliding."

The only example of worlds clashing I can recall is Psmith's memorable stay
at Blandings, though this was in the days before Gally and Uncle Fred came
on the scene talking to stop sisters and aunts from throwing their weight
around. Psmith was pretty well solidified by this point (being novel #4) but
Blandings was still developing (being novel #2, unless you count Damsel in
Distress as a proto-Blandings), so maybe this wasn't too earth-shattering.

Yes, perhaps it was best for the Master not to bung a handful of his best
and brightest into the same hostelry and throw away the key. They might
decide to pass the time by outscheming each other. (My hard earned would be
on Jeeves, by the way, though I doubt anyone would give me good odds.)

~An Egg

Neil Midkiff

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Jan 9, 2001, 4:53:32 AM1/9/01
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James Fung wrote:
>
> Bobbie Wickham features somewhat prominently in the tales of Wooster and
> Mulliner. Rummy thing, I always thought of that Red Headed Jezebel as a
> locality of Wooster's world, when actually she appeared in Mr. Mulliner
> Speaking before Very Good, Jeeves. (Anyone know when she was first published
> in a magazine?)

She first appeared in "Something Squishy" in the December 20, 1924 _Saturday
Evening Post_ and in the January 1925 _Strand_.

Her second story, "The Awful Gladness of the Mater," came about four
months later
in each case. Both these are collected in _Mr Mulliner Speaking_.

-Neil Midkiff

disgusted

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Jan 9, 2001, 7:45:54 AM1/9/01
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"James Fung" <jgf...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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...I


> believe Bertie mentions staying at Blandings at one point (where, can
anyone
> tell me?)

I think it may have been two mentions. The only one I can (dimly) remember
involves F. Craye, who instructs Bertie to destroy some scurrilous memoirs,
adding that one particular incident therein casts shame on Lord Emsworth, to
which Bertie says something like "Not the Lord Emsworth we know? An old boy
who spends all his time growing roses?"(Jeeves Takes Charge, although the
quotation is probably miles out.)

...(BTW,


> reading Pigs Have Wings, I came across the expression Plimsoll Mark.
Surely
> not any relation, or is it?). Everyone remember that Edward Jimpson
> Murgatroyd, Harley Street's answer to light pink spots, was recommended to
> Wooster by Tipton?

Plimsoll lines/marks are what the well dressed ship about town is wearing
this season I gather. I like to
think 'Tipped on Plimsoll' - maybe meaning listing to one side - is some
nautical term, adopted by sailors as meaning 'tight as an owl', and was
picked up by Plum during an Atlantic crossing and turned into the name of a
character. This is almost certainly not true, but I like to think it, OK?
How else
would the name Tipton Plimsoll occur to one?

...> Yes, perhaps it was best for the Master not to bung a handful of his


best
> and brightest into the same hostelry and throw away the key. They might
> decide to pass the time by outscheming each other. (My hard earned would
be
> on Jeeves, by the way, though I doubt anyone would give me good odds.)

Didn't Truman Capote try this sort of thing but with detectives in Murder By
Death? There'd be a fertile plotline there, if, say Aunt Agatha invited the
abovementioned heroes to her lair and told them that at midnight some young
persons would be snootered and they had to figure out who and try to stop
this evil plan.

Pipx2
18ck


Nina Hattiangadi

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Jan 10, 2001, 1:22:52 PM1/10/01
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I remember what you mean, and have it close at hand. :-)

Florence Cray, who is asking Bertie to steal his uncle's memoirs, begins,
and Bertie replies and then narrates:

"The book is full of stories like that. There is a dreadful one about Lord
Emsworth."
"Lord Emsworth? Not the one we know? Not the one at Blandings?"
A most respectable old Johnnie, don't you know. Doesn't do a thing nowadays
but dig in the garden with a spud.


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AFol...@webtv.net

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Jan 10, 2001, 8:32:28 PM1/10/01
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In article <3a5b0...@news1.vip.uk.com>,
"disgusted" <disg...@breathemail.net> wrote:

<snip>

> Plimsoll lines/marks are what the well dressed ship about town is wearing
> this season I gather.

<snip>

What ho, young target of brigands;

Right you are. For more than one of your tender years should really know
about the cabalistic significance of Plimsoll's graffito, see:

http://www.plimsoll.com/mark.html

Ta!
Le Vicomte de Blissac


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AFol...@webtv.net

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Jan 10, 2001, 8:50:24 PM1/10/01
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In article <3a5a5c9e$1...@news1.vip.uk.com>,
"disgusted" <disg...@breathemail.net> wrote:

What ho, Ogden;

<snip>

> Imagine Gally, Uncle Fred, Psmith and
> Jeeves, all tanked up on Mulliner's
> Buck-u-up-o (spelled wrong, I know).

Well, then, imagine just Bertie on Buck-U-Uppo, on the day when Jeeves tried
to come the Clever Servant over some innocent item of apparel. Another
tick-up in the British unemployment figures, I fancy. Whether this would
persist would depend on whether Bertie's supply of the Mulliner elixir held
out long enough for him to survive the next confrontation with Aunt Agatha.

James Fung

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Jan 10, 2001, 9:50:03 PM1/10/01
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What ho!

Ha! "The tight chap!" Most admirable pun!

charles stone-tolcher

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Jan 11, 2001, 6:43:19 PM1/11/01
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Bertie on buck-u-uppo would be one thing (possibly not too pleasant) but
could you imagine the Wickham taking it? By gad, it would not be snakes
placed in beds but crocodiles. Makes me shiver like an aspen.

Pillingshot

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Whatsits Galore

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Jan 12, 2001, 9:30:58 PM1/12/01
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Does Lord Emsworth relly dig in the garden with a spud? Are they sharp
enough to dig with? Or do you mean he has a spud as a digging companion?
My brain is addled on this one.

Brainy Cove

<a
href=http://www.freetown.com/Picadilly/Buckingham/1033/donald.html>Donald
Duck's Family Tree </a>

Blandings5

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Jan 12, 2001, 10:21:10 PM1/12/01
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Originally queried by the Brainy Cove:

>Does Lord Emsworth relly dig in the garden with a spud? Are they sharp
>enough to dig with? Or do you mean he has a spud as a digging companion?
>My brain is addled on this one.
>
>Brainy Cove

What Ho again!

According to Webster (the dictionary, not the cat), a spud is actually a
digging tool for digging, lifting, or cutting, like a spade or a chisel.
Apparently the term dates back to the 1600's, and predates the association
with potatoes.

This also reminds me of a passage from a justly famous scene, from "Leave it to
Psmith." The Efficient Baxter's barrage of flowerpots had awakened his lordship
from, "a disquieting dream, in which he had been arguing with Angus McAllister
about early spring bulbs, and McAllister, worsted verbally, had hit him in the
ribs with a spud." I'd always thought that being hit in the ribs by a potato
probably shouldn't have been quite that distressing. The passage certainly
makes more sense now.

Andrew Leal.

Nina Hattiangadi

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Jan 13, 2001, 9:23:07 AM1/13/01
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I can assure you that it's actually written in my book as "spud", which I
assumed was another word for spade. I must say, however, that I wouldn't be
surprised if dear Lord Emsworth, distracted by the thought of cats at his
pumpkins or Empress' head-cold, wouldn't have tried to dig around in his
garden with a potato. I think that's one reason I remembered the passage so
clearly...somehow the use of "spud" sounds so much more representative of
puttering around with no useful intent than actual spade-work.

-- Nina


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Whatsits Galore

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Jan 13, 2001, 5:49:45 PM1/13/01
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Well, it was distressing enough when Brinkley did it.

<a
href=http://www.freetown.com/Picadilly/Westminster/1053/bakerst.html>Basil
of Baker Street </a>

I'd always thought that being hit in the ribs by a potato
> probably shouldn't have been quite that distressing. The passage certainly
> makes more sense now.
>
> Andrew Leal.

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