Bertie Wooster's family tree
Swordfish
What ho everyone,
I inflict my socity once agin on this hallowed group after some gap.
The other day I was trying to tote up Bertie's relatives and I came up with this lot.
*Bertram Wilbertforce Wooster
Of London W1.
Gentleman's personal gentleman: Reginald Jeeves
* Mrs Dahlia Travers, his late father's sister
Of Brinkley Manor
Married to Thomas Portalingan Travers
Children:
Angela, engaged to be married to Tuppy Glossop.[Not clear whether the nuptials ever took place]
Bonzo,not much known about him,except an occasional attack of measles.
*Lady Agatha Worplesden,another sister of his late father.
Married to Sir Percy Worplesden
Step daughter Florence Cray,engaged to be married at various times to Bertie,Ginger Winslop,Gorringe,Rev 'Stinker' Pinker.
Young Thos,the one whom Bertie has to periodically take to the Old Vic for the Shakespeare plays
*Two cousins make qan appearence in the story of 24 cats in his bedroom when Sir Roderick Glossop comes over for lunch.
Who are these?whose sons?how cousins? Does anyone know?
Are there any more family members that have been missed out?
Pip pip,
Swordfish.
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Chase Kimball
Swordfish wrote:
>
> What ho everyone,
> I inflict my socity once agin on this hallowed group after some gap.
> The other day I was trying to tote up Bertie's relatives and I came up with this lot.
>
> *Bertram Wilbertforce Wooster
> Of London W1.
> Gentleman's personal gentleman: Reginald Jeeves
> * Mrs Dahlia Travers, his late father's sister
> Of Brinkley Manor
> Married to Thomas Portalingan
Portarlington, I believe.
Travers
> Children:
> Angela, engaged to be married to Tuppy Glossop.[Not clear whether the nuptials ever took place]
> Bonzo,not much known about him,except an occasional attack of measles.
> *Lady Agatha Worplesden,another sister of his late father.
> Married to Sir Percy Worplesden
> Step daughter Florence Cray,engaged to be married at various times to Bertie,Ginger Winslop,Gorringe,Rev 'Stinker' Pinker.
> Young Thos,the one whom Bertie has to periodically take to the Old Vic for the Shakespeare plays
> *Two cousins make qan appearence in the story of 24 cats in his bedroom when Sir Roderick Glossop comes over for lunch.
> Who are these?whose sons?how cousins? Does anyone know?
Eustace and Claude, I can't remember their geneaology off the top of my
head, but I am sure someone else will. There is also Bertie's uncle,
Lord Yaxley; and a sister who threatens to move in with Bertie, causing
Jeeves to (unfeudally) precipitate a crisis at the girl's school.
>
> Are there any more family members that have been missed out?
> Pip pip,
>
> Swordfish.
>
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"Swordfish" <donot...@interbulletin.bogus> wrote in message
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> *Two cousins make qan appearence in the story of 24 cats in his bedroom
when Sir Roderick Glossop comes over for lunch.
> Who are these?whose sons?how cousins? Does anyone know?
Claude and Eustace Wooster. Their mother is described as "Poor Emily". I
assume "Poor" is not used in a monetary sense.
We also have the mystery of Bertie's Uncle Willoughby. According to Bertie
this chap "came down to breakfast one morning, lifted the first cover he
saw, said egs, eggs, eggs, damn all eggs, and instantly legged it for France
never to return to the bosom of his family". My guess is that Claude and
Eustace were Willoughby's sons.
Here's my guess as to Bertie's family tree
Bertie's Grandfather, had three s's George, Bertie's father, and
Willoughby, and two d's Agatha and Dhalia. By the way, as has been pointed
out once or twice in this NG, Bertie's Grandfather could not have been Lord
Yaxley (if he was then Bertie would be the Hon Bertram, and his Aunts Lady
Agatha and Lady Dhalia).
George did not marry until late in life after he had become Lord Yaxley
(Indian summer of an Uncle), and we do not know if he had any children.
Bertie had one sister (Mrs. Scolfield) living in India. Willoughby had twin
sons (Claude and Eustace). Agatha had one s Edwin, and Dhalia had one s
(Bonzo) and one d (Angela).
Assuming Lord Yaxley did not have any heirs from his marriage to Maudie the
barmaid, then our Bertram would one day become Lord Yaxley. The imagination
goggles does it not?
Merolchazzar
The Mixer
> What ho everyone,
> I inflict my socity once agin on this hallowed group after some gap.
> The other day I was trying to tote up Bertie's relatives and I came up with this lot.
Sister: Mrs Scholfeld
Nieces: Three daughters of Mrs Scholfeld
Paternal Aunts: Dahlia and Agatha
Uncles by Marriage to Paternal Aunts: Spenser Gregson (deceased) and Lord Worplesdon (married to Agatha), Thomas
Portarlington Travers (married to Dahlia)
Paternal Uncles: George (Lord Yaxley), Henry (who finished his career in some sort of home, completely surrounded by
rabbits)
Aunts by Marriage to Paternal Uncles: Maudie Wilberforce (Lady Yaxley), poor Emily (married to Henry)
Unspecified Uncles: Surnames are not supplied for Uncles Willoughby, Clive and James. I suspect that Willoughby is a
maternal uncle, the brother of Bertie's late mother. The evidence seems to suggest that Clive and James are uncles of the
siblings Claude, Eustace and Harold which would seem to leave the odds at 50-50 as to whether they are Woosters or brothers of
Emily.
Cousins: Claude, Eustace and Harold-the sons of Emily and Henry; Thos-the son of Agatha and (presumably) Spenser; Angela &
Bonzo-children of Dahla and (presumably) Thomas Portarlington.
Cousins by Marriage: Florence and Edwin-offspring of Lord Worplesdon and his first wife.
An Unspecified Cousin: Gussie, who was referred to by Bertie during one of his New York short stories. It is possible that
cousin Gussie could be Gussie Mannering-Phipps, the son of Cuthbert and Julia Mannering-Phipps from the short story
'Extricating Young Gussie' narrated by Bertie Mannering-Phipps. Indeed, as Bertie Mannering-Phipps also addresses Mrs Agatha
Gregson as "Aunt Agatha", it would seem that he may be some sort of cousin of Bertie Wooster.
The Mixer
David M. Harris
Yaxley might be a life peer. That would save Bertie from the hazards of title.
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> Yaxley might be a life peer. That would save Bertie from the hazards of
title.
You know I had'nt thougt of that. Interesting suggestion.
Trouble is, Uncle George does not come across as a chap who would get a life
peerage. I am sure a chappie has to be a dashed brainy cove, a captain of
industry or something to be made a lord. I mean to say the British
Government must have some standards. They don't hand out life peerages like
candy at halloween do they?
Unless the man had hidden depths not revealed by Bertie in his stories, it
is hard to imagine George as a high achiever.
Merolchazzar
Reggie "Kipper" Herring
<coldFAK...@earthADDRESSlink.net> wrote
>
>Yaxley might be a life peer. That would save Bertie from the hazards of title.
Life peerages as we now know them weren't invented until 1958.
Until then, they were just a dodge to enable the House of Lords to
produce a few members who actually knew about law when the circumstances
required it. So if Yaxley was a life peer, he must have been a judge,
which seems unlikely.
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John Winters
Rick Rashid <rick....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>" David M. Harris" <coldFAK...@earthADDRESSlink.net> wrote in message
>news:3AEB25C0...@earthlink.net...
>
>> Yaxley might be a life peer. That would save Bertie from the hazards of
>title.
>
>You know I had'nt thougt of that. Interesting suggestion.
>
>Trouble is, Uncle George does not come across as a chap who would get a life
>peerage. I am sure a chappie has to be a dashed brainy cove, a captain of
>industry or something to be made a lord. I mean to say the British
>Government must have some standards.
Hardly - they sold Jeffrey Archer a peerage so if he can buy one presumably
anyone can.
>They don't hand out life peerages like
>candy at halloween do they?
No - they're quite expensive.
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David M. Harris
>
> Unless the man had hidden depths not revealed by Bertie in his stories, it
> is hard to imagine George as a high achiever.
On the other hand, with one notable exception it's hard to imagine Bertie
recognizing hidden depths.
Lesley
"The Mixer" <ian_m...@bc.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> An Unspecified Cousin: Gussie, who was referred to by Bertie during one
of his New York short stories. It is possible that
> cousin Gussie could be Gussie Mannering-Phipps, the son of Cuthbert and
Julia Mannering-Phipps from the short story
> 'Extricating Young Gussie' narrated by Bertie Mannering-Phipps. Indeed,
as Bertie Mannering-Phipps also addresses Mrs Agatha
> Gregson as "Aunt Agatha", it would seem that he may be some sort of cousin
of Bertie Wooster.
>
>
> The Mixer
>
It appears more likely that Bertie Mannering-Phipps is actually Bertram
Wilberforce Wooster in a previous incarnation. Generally, that is
considered to be the case. Wodehouse seems to have simply changed his last
name later on, meaning Gussie Mannering-Phipps is, indeed, a cousin of the
Bertie we all know and love.
Lesley
Swordfish
<3AEB0C86...@bc.sympatico.ca> :
One more question, O keeper of the Wooster family seal,
The cousin by marriage, Florence has a family name Cray. who was Cray,where does he spring from?
can anyone throw any light on the Cray angle?
Pip pip,
Swordfish
LadyMacBec
>does he spring from?
who is Cray, and what is he, that all his swains commend him? Actually, you
are mixing Florence Craye up with the "Mystery of the Pink Crayfish", old chap.
pippip
Corky
The Mixer
>
> One more question, O keeper of the Wooster family seal,
>
> The cousin by marriage, Florence has a family name Cray. who was Cray,where does he spring from?
> can anyone throw any light on the Cray angle?
>
> Pip pip,
> Swordfish
What ho, my dear old synthetic butler!
Florence and Edwin Craye (not Cray) are the children of Percival Craye, A.K.A. Lord Worplesdon, and his first wife. Actually we
first meet Lord W. in the early Reggie Pepper story, "Disentangling old Percy", when we discover the old buster actually has THREE
children, Florence, Edwin (A.K.A. Lord Weeton) and a younger son, Percy Junior. At that time Florence was a middle-aged harridan
while Edwin and Percy were young adults. Later when the family featured in Bertie's memoirs Florence reverted to being an
attractive young woman with a terrific profile, Edwin became a spooring boy scout and Percy Junior became conspicuous by his
absence.
When it appeared in an American magazine "Disentangling old Percy" was titled "Disentangling old Duggie" with Percy Junior's name
changed to Douglas and Lord Worplesdon becoming plain old Percy Craye, a Philadelphia soup merchant.
The Mixer
Swordfish
<20010503131023...@ng-fl1.aol.com> :
What ho Corky,
Before I could be consigned to the looney bin,The Mixer came to my rescue and actually proved the existence of Craye,who proved to be none other than old Worplesdon.
Andy Cheyne
timidly
in the shadowy Blandings backgrounds of "Something Fresh", contibutes a twig
to the family tree.
A Wet Hen
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I shall cancel your room at Colney Hatch. We had such a nice dinner jacket
ready for you, too, one of those wrap-around-arms models. And lovely
wall-to-wall padding. oh well.
winkingly,
Corky
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> What ho everyone,
> I inflict my socity once agin on this hallowed group after some gap.
> The other day I was trying to tote up Bertie's relatives and I came up with this lot.
>
> *Bertram Wilbertforce Wooster
> Of London W1.
> Gentleman's personal gentleman: Reginald Jeeves
> Married to Thomas Portalingan Travers
> Children:
> *Lady Agatha Worplesden,another sister of his late father.
> Young Thos,the one whom Bertie has to periodically take to the Old Vic for the Shakespeare plays
> *Two cousins make qan appearence in the story of 24 cats in his bedroom when Sir Roderick Glossop comes over for lunch.
> Are there any more family members that have been missed out?
>
> Swordfish.
> know your enemeis folks
