correct pronunciation
paul bonny
my confidence has been shattered.. i mean to say...
a recent foray at a ahem... 'pre-loved' ahem
book shop in the capital produced no plum gems.
i made discreet enquiries of the johnny manning the fort...
an intelligent looking cove dont you know.
i said in polite tones "can you plese inform me of the
whereabouts of the works of p g wodehouse?"
he replied, with a now rheumy eye,
"i think you must mean WOADHOUSE?"
"er, um, i say, i pronounce it WOODHOUSE"
"no" replied cove "its WOADHOUSE, and no i dont have any,
theres not much call for them in these parts"
can any fellow devotees please tell me the correct pronunciation
of plums name??
i have had to curb my bookshop forays thanks
to this un-nerving experience.deuced unpleasant.
cheerio,
honoria glossop.
p.s. i bags the sobriquet honoria.
Jamie Eimermann
>i think you must mean WOADHOUSE?"
>"er, um, i say, i pronounce it WOODHOUSE"
>"no" replied cove "its WOADHOUSE, and no i dont have any,
>theres not much call for them in these parts"
>
>can any fellow devotees please tell me the correct pronunciation
>of plums name??
>i have had to curb my bookshop forays thanks
>to this un-nerving experience.deuced unpleasant.
>cheerio,
>honoria glossop.
>
>p.s. i bags the sobriquet honoria.
Well, I've got good news and I've got bad news. The good news is that
you are indeed pronouncing the Master's name correctly. Any cove, no
matter how intelligent looking, who says there is not much call for
the Master's work, is not to be trusted. There are seldom any
Wodehouse works in Chicago used book stores either. My explanation
for thi is that anyone who reads one of Plum's books freezes onto
it with a deathlike grip and laughs in the face of any used book
merchant who want to buy it off him/her.
The bad news is that the name Honoria Glossop has already been bagged
by Joanne Zimmerman back when we started taking noms de Plum.
Can I pull you a pint to assauge your disappointment?
Miss Postlethwaite
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
S Bhurke) wrote:
>
> I must say that I have been wrong
> in the past re. the masters name. I used to pronounce it as WOADHOUSE for
> many a year, before it was revealed to me that it was indeed WOODHOUSE.
> It is not easy to break old habits though.. and even now you can hear me
> speak with a mix of WOAD and WOOD - HOUSE.
>
> -Gussie
I say, old gargoyle, it is the same with me!
-The Feverish Cheese
Alekh S Bhurke
Alekh S Bhurke
: I say, I've just read that the name Honoria Glossop has been (a) taken,
: and (b) taken again. How does one determine those names which are
: currently available? I have been hesitant to post because of my lack of a
: "nom de plum". After reading a dashed many posts, however, I have have
: yet to find a good list thereof.
: Please advise.
Dear Sir or Madam,
You seem to be under some misapprehension. There is no rule anywhere that
says you cannot post on this newsgroup under your own name. This 'nom'
thing started because some of us wanted to do some role playing. Before that
everybody used to write as themselves.
The nom de plum list is posted here on a monthly basis or so. Meanwhile,
if you have something to toss in here, use your own name. We promise not
to lynch you for it.
regards,
Alekh (aka Augustus Fink-Nottle)
ps: see, I used my real name, and there still aint no contract out on me.
Chase Kimball
says...
>
>-The Feverish Cheese
I say, as long as we are on the subject, how do you pronounce "Eulalie?"
Possibly Lord Brancaster.
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
(Paxton Lee Frombaugh) wrote:
> In article <4f1rrt$s...@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, bhur...@scully.msu.edu (Alekh
> S Bhurke) wrote:
>
> > Chase Kimball (ch...@aros.net) wrote:
> >
> > : I say, as long as we are on the subject, how do you pronounce "Eulalie?"
> > : Possibly Lord Brancaster.
> >
> > Well... U-Lay-Lee, i suppose.
> > Unless you are french...., in which case you could pronounce it as
> > almost anything.
> >
> > -gussie
>
> Hmm... I mentally pronounce it "YOU-lah-lee." 'tis all in the mind of the
> reader, old sport.
>
> -The Feverish Cheese
Well, well. I stand corrected. Today I happened to watch "The Music Man,"
and amazingly, the mayor's wife is named Eulalie. Gussie's pronunciation
is correct!
-The Feverish Cheese
Parsing
>I say, I've just read that the name Honoria Glossop has been (a) taken,
>and (b) taken again. How does one determine those names which are
>currently available? I have been hesitant to post because of my lack of
a
>"nom de plum". After reading a dashed many posts, however, I have have
>yet to find a good list thereof.
>Please advise.
Dear Garvey: (If I may call you that for the moment)
We have a list of nom de plums that is kept updated by dear Bonzo, who is
also known as Bruce Beaman. You can write to him via e-mail asking for
an updated list at the address bbe...@coredcs.com
It is not necessary to have a nom to join in the discussions or even the
IC threads. Just join in.
Welcome to our dear group.....you don't write poetry do you?
Sincerely,
Lady Diana
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
Garveydd
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
> what-ho fellow devotees
>
> my confidence has been shattered.. i mean to say...
> a recent foray at a ahem... 'pre-loved' ahem
> book shop in the capital produced no plum gems.
> i made discreet enquiries of the johnny manning the fort...
> an intelligent looking cove dont you know.
> i said in polite tones "can you plese inform me of the
> whereabouts of the works of p g wodehouse?"
> he replied, with a now rheumy eye,
> "i think you must mean WOADHOUSE?"
> "er, um, i say, i pronounce it WOODHOUSE"
> "no" replied cove "its WOADHOUSE, and no i dont have any,
> theres not much call for them in these parts"
>
> can any fellow devotees please tell me the correct pronunciation
> of plums name??
> i have had to curb my bookshop forays thanks
> to this un-nerving experience.deuced unpleasant.
> cheerio,
> honoria glossop.
>
> p.s. i bags the sobriquet honoria.
The correct pronunciation is WOODHOUSE, though I for one still lapse into
WOAD mode on occasion...Hidebound and reactionary, don't you know.
-The Feverish Cheese
Bianchi
>Please advise.
I don't think Magnolia Glendenning has been taken. If I weren't so
steeped to the gills in being Lady C. I would love that name. LC
Bianchi Internet: m...@neosoft.com
"Quality brings long term profits to any endeavor"
Ted Rosen
> in the past re. the masters name. I used to pronounce it as WOADHOUSE for
> many a year, before it was revealed to me that it was indeed WOODHOUSE.
> It is not easy to break old habits though.. and even now you can hear me
> speak with a mix of WOAD and WOOD - HOUSE.
>
> -Gussie
>
I think the WOADHOUSE pronunciation is a common error among
New-Worlders (including myself, for a bit).
It seems the British are understandably sharper on the finer points
of proper pronunciation of Anglo-Saxon family names. For instance,
Bertram himself is properly referred to as BERTRUM WUHSTER, not BER-TRAM
WOOOOSTER.
If any of you fine Subjects of the Crown wish to interject, please
do so.
For now, it's off for a refresher in the sitting room . . .
- TPR
Susan Collicott
Gussie -
There is indeed a contract out on you, you miserable little nephew. I'm told
one of your last escapades in the baths at my summer home left the housekeeper
in a twitter. She is now threatening to leave unless I raise her salary.
Do you know how hard it is to get a good housekeeper?
Just wait 'till I get my hands on you, you lizard lover.
Love,
Your Aunt Susan.
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If you were dirt upon a road, in sultry summer weather,
I'd be a cloud and rain on you, and we'd make mud together.
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Prem!
> Garveydd (garv...@aol.com) wrote:
> > I say, I've just read that the name Honoria Glossop has been (a) taken,
> > and (b) taken again. How does one determine those names which are
> > currently available? I have been hesitant to post because of my lack
> > of a "nom de plum". After reading a dashed many posts, however, I
>
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> You seem to be under some misapprehension. There is no rule anywhere that
> says you cannot post on this newsgroup under your own name. This 'nom'
> thing started because some of us wanted to do some role playing. Before
> that everybody used to write as themselves. The nom de plum list is
> posted here on a monthly basis or so. Meanwhile, if you have something
> to toss in here, use your own name. We promise not to lynch you for it.
> regards,
> Alekh (aka Augustus Fink-Nottle)
Gussie, for once, gives good advice on a subject other than the
courtship dances of newts.
However, I would like to add to his comments that it is decidedly not
cricket to appropriate a nom-de-plum, and then continue to post using
one's own name, what? Smacks of that pooch-in-the-manger kind of
thing, don't you see, to take a plummonym out of circulation, thus
preventing the deserving and the needy from using it for themselves,
and then to continue using one's own name.
Reminds me of the cads who fall asleep in the window-seat of an
express train, eclipsing with their gently heaving paunch the passing
scenes of bucolic paradise from the eager eyes of the little child on
the seat next to theirs. Should such a man wake up to find his shoe-
laces tied together and his toupee on backwards, my sympathies would
most certainly be with the defendant.
> ps: see, I used my real name, and there still aint no contract out on me.
Don't count on it, old chap. My lips are sealed, else I would advise
you to avoiding the company of little-known asiatic men with little-
known asiatic refreshments.
Prem!
Tottering-On-The-Brink
Alan Bird
<ham...@pacificrim.net> writes
from Tyneside, where we're unintelligible even to each other, and for me
to tell you how we pronounce Wooster and Wodehouse would require the
sort of phonetic characters not contained in ordinary ascii.
However, you may be interested to learn that Stanley Featherstonehaugh
Ukridge's middle name is most probably pronounced "Fanshawe".
For that matter, my alter ego's branch of the Brabazon-Planks have
always said "BrarzonPlar", to distinguish us from the Somerset cadet
line, who say "Brample".
Pip pip!
Brabazon-Plank, Major.
"'What-ho, Jeeves!' I said, entering the room where he waded knee-deep in
suitcases and shirts and winter suitings, like a sea-beast among rocks."
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
> It seems the British are understandably sharper on the finer points
> of proper pronunciation of Anglo-Saxon family names. For instance,
> Bertram himself is properly referred to as BERTRUM WUHSTER, not BER-TRAM
> WOOOOSTER.
>
> If any of you fine Subjects of the Crown wish to interject, please
> do so.
>
> For now, it's off for a refresher in the sitting room . . .
>
> - TPR
The ones I love are Fotheringay (pronounced "fungee" with a hard g) and
Cholmondeley (pronounced "Chumley").
-The Feverish Cheese
Alekh S Bhurke
: >The ones I love are Fotheringay (pronounced "fungee" with a hard g) and
Me thinks it was "fungay".
-Gussie
Tim Palmer
> There has been some hushed talk about voluntary nom-de-plum recycling,
in
> which everybody gets a chance to offer their noms for trade. This way,
> budding young writers may get a chance to play their favourite
characters
> without having to look guilty of impersonating someone else.
>
> Does anybody else agree?
I've been wondering about masquerading as Gussie Fink-Nottle. One seem to
get to meet such a variety of delightful people, and have not a care in the
world. Is it necessary to wear horn-rimmed spectacles and keep newts in the
bath?
Sir Gregory Parsloe-Parsloe, Bart
Rick Rashid
Frombaugh) writes:
>The ones I love are Fotheringay (pronounced "fungee" with a hard g) and
>Cholmondeley (pronounced "Chumley").
>
>-The Feverish Cheese
And don't forget Lester Mapledurham (Pronounced Mum).
Merolchazzar, King of Oom
Richard Herring
<pet...@visigoth.demon.co.uk> writes
[regarding Eulalie]
>Now look here. You lot'd better get this pronunciation right or the
>Black Shorts will be round in short order (pun intended) to sort you lot
>out!
>Although I might have sold off the boutique, I am still interested in
>the old business. Anyway the correct pronunciation is "Oo-la-lee"
>without a vocalised "Y" at the beginning.
Well, *someone* pronounced it that way, because it was *someone*'s cry
of "You!" which reminded Bertie of the Name of Power he had temporarily
forgotten.
--
Reggie "Kipper" Herring <ric...@clupeid.demon.co.uk>
Anne Cotton
> Merolchazzar, King of Oom
AND, of course, Featherstonehaugh, pronounced Fanshaw.
Lady Bassett
Anne Cotton
is that Plum would undoubtedly have loved it), of the poor innocent
American who wandered to the eastern side of the Atlantic on his first
visit to Britain. He was shown about by a couple who, while generally
kindly, did feel compelled to correct his pronunciation whenever he ran
into any of the aforementioned names with the strange ways of saying them.
The poor thing was getting afraid of opening his mouth. One afternoon,
though, he got his own back: his hosts asked him what sights they should
include on their planned forthcoming visit to America. He asked what they
already had on the itinerary. After listing the major tourist spots in
and near Manhattan, they added, "Oh, and of course we want to visit Niagara
Falls."
"What?" says our chappie.
"Niagara Falls," the couple repeats. The chappie looked perfectly blank.
The husband then said, "You know -- that big waterfall between you chaps
and the Canadians."
"OH!" said the American chappie. "You mean Niffles!"
Lady Bassett
Alekh S Bhurke
: > If a person
: >selects a name and then doesn't use it for, let us say, two
: >months, then that name ought to be made available to the
: >general public.
: I think this is an excellent idea. It does seem as though it would get
: confusing if we were to be trading names around and also, speaking from a
: completely self-centered point of view, I would like to keep my character.
Yes, indeed. That is what i meant. the trade was "voluntary". I wouldnt
want to stop being Gussie either. The thing is we can do this sort of
thing from time to time. I mean, it would be shocking to come out of the
ether, or should I say, come in to the ether and find that ones absence
for a prolonged time has resulted in one losing ones identity. I suppose
one could drop a note saying "I am going to be on vacation for a couple
of months, but I will be back", thus assuring the public that one is but
temporarily indisposed and that one will resume in the games soon.
Another way would be to take the noms list and bring up a list of names
that we havent seen for a longish time. In fact I have already done so.
these are the names (noms) I dont recollect seeing on posts in the last year.
>Deborah Thomas Biffen, Fruity
>Dominik Halas Bodkin, Monty
>Susan Jewell Byng, Stiffy
>John Phipps Fotheringay-Phipps, Barmy
>Dirk Laurie Glossop, Sir Roderick
>M. Devere Ickenham, Earl of (Frederick)
>Premkumar Natarajan Jeeves
>Jeff Kaufman Little, Bingo
>Sarah Kendall Painter, Sally
>Kennedy Smith Pilbeam, P. Frobisher
>Christopher Hodge Pinker, Rev. Harold (Stinker)
>Rashmi Srinivasa Pirbright, Corky
>Don Pollock Potter-Pirbright, Catsmeat
>Rick Fleming Prosser, Oofy
>Durga Rajaram Psmith, Eustace
>Bancroft Gracey Uffenham, Lord
These people could perhaps have lost access to the newsgroup or whatever.
If any of the above names should take anybodys fancy, they could use them.
that is if the original owners arent going to post.
If I am in error concerning the above names, I apologise profusely aand
will bear ten lashes with a wet noodle.
another person who has been absent for some time and who i can vouch for,
(she will be back soon) is Bobbie Wickham.
pl. forgive any mistakes above.
regards,
Gussie
Richard Herring
<bhur...@scully.msu.edu> writes
>
>: >The ones I love are Fotheringay (pronounced "fungee" with a hard g) and
>
sort of noise (not exactly a schwa, being a little more forward and
closed) but definitely not a diphthong.
Richard Herring
<alan...@jsbach.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Depends which part of the sceptr'd isle you hail from, old man. I come
>from Tyneside, where we're unintelligible even to each other, and for me
>to tell you how we pronounce Wooster and Wodehouse would require the
>sort of phonetic characters not contained in ordinary ascii.
That, of course, is because in those parts they are translated from the
Norwegian.
Joan Tine
> I must say that I have been wrong in the past re. the masters
> name. I used to pronounce it as WOADHOUSE for many a year, before
> it was revealed to me that it was indeed WOODHOUSE. It is not
> easy to break old habits though.. and even now you can hear me
> speak with a mix of WOAD and WOOD - HOUSE.
> -Gussie
Alas! Another innocent victim of the Muddle of the Woad.
(I'll be in the barbican WITH the door bolted, thank you:).
Joan
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Alekh S Bhurke
: I've been wondering about masquerading as Gussie Fink-Nottle. One seem to
: get to meet such a variety of delightful people, and have not a care in the
: world. Is it necessary to wear horn-rimmed spectacles and keep newts in the
: bath?
: Sir Gregory Parsloe-Parsloe, Bart
Dear Sir Gregory,
If you should ever impersonate me, i shall be forced to poke you
in the snoot. On the other hand, perhaps it might be a good idea, till this
Ronnie Fish affair blows over.
So when would you prefer to start, Sir G.
Horn-rimmed Specs and newts are the basic n. of a Fink-Nottle.
_gussie
Paxton Lee Frombaugh
toes that I adopted the name of a now-defunct speakeasy, instead of the
human variety. Besides, the name has always tickled me.
Toodle pip,
-The Feverish Cheese
James Petts
<ric...@clupeid.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <6g9DNjAf+gGxEwI$@visigoth.demon.co.uk>, James Petts
><pet...@visigoth.demon.co.uk> writes
>[regarding Eulalie]
>Well, *someone* pronounced it that way, because it was *someone*'s cry
>of "You!" which reminded Bertie of the Name of Power he had temporarily
>forgotten.
Indeed! And does anybody know what happened to "somebody"? Not been seen
around since, eh?
--
Sidcup
Richard Vine
> Another way would be to take the noms list and bring up a list of names
> that we havent seen for a longish time. In fact I have already done so.
> these are the names (noms) I dont recollect seeing on posts in the last year.
>
> pl. forgive any mistakes above.
>
> regards,
> Gussie
>
Might I venture to suggest, Sir, that if the good gentleman who maintains
the list has a copy of a mail address belonging to a long-defunct "nom",
a mail should be sent asking if they wish to retain it?
I speak as one who did not post for several months due to pressure of
work, and now post only irregularly. I am very pleased that, during my
absence, no one else took on the mantle of
Beach. The Butler's Pantry, Blandings Castle.
Green Swizzle Wooster
>M. Scully/E. Gospodinoff
>(Who thinks we need a Jeeves and wouldn't mind stepping in)
I am shocked and appalled by this two-faced, pusillanimous behaviour on the
part of the once courageous and reliable E. Gospodinoff! Remember, sir, your
origins! The great Bertram Wilberforce Wooster himself called you into
existance to contrast the faint-heart and lack of feudal spirit of Reginald
Jeeves with the fortitude and stamina of the bag-piper Gospodinoff and his
staunch valet! Yet even this sterling example could not shame Jeeves into
obliging his master on the simple matter of banjo playing. Surely this is not
the man you wish to emulate?
In the words of the Master, I entreat you to "Be Bulgarian!"
This newsgroup needs an E. Gospodinoff!
Green Swizzle Wooster, Esq.
Dominik Halas
: Rick Rashid (Ri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: > In <frobo-07029...@slt-d17.sierra.net> fr...@tol.net (Paxton Lee
: > >The ones I love are Fotheringay (pronounced "fungee" with a hard g) and
: > >Cholmondeley (pronounced "Chumley").
: > >
: > >-The Feverish Cheese
: > And don't forget Lester Mapledurham (Pronounced Mum).
: > Merolchazzar, King of Oom
: AND, of course, Featherstonehaugh, pronounced Fanshaw.
: Lady Bassett
Let's not be forgetting the Duke of Weatherstonehope, pronounced Wop.
Monty Bodkin
mwey...@erinet.com
In Article<4fn4qb$9...@erinews.ericsson.se>, <xkk...@mweymank.erinet.com>
writes:
<<<Snippage has occurred here, please do not step in it!>>>
> Might I venture to suggest, Sir, that if the good gentleman who
maintains
> the list has a copy of a mail address belonging to a long-defunct
"nom",
> a mail should be sent asking if they wish to retain it?
>
> I speak as one who did not post for several months due to pressure of
> work, and now post only irregularly. I am very pleased that, during my
> absence, no one else took on the mantle of
>
> Beach. The Butler's Pantry, Blandings Castle.
>
Oh! There you are, Beach. What a capital idea! Amazing how you butler
fellows waft in and out without so much as stirring a hair. I must agree
that I was pleased that no one dared to sneak into my court shoes during
my absence.
Do you think we could have a couple of G&T's and a small can of lard to
take down to the boathouse? Thank you.
Roberta Wickham
Richard Vine
>
>> I speak as one who did not post for several months due to pressure of
>> work, and now post only irregularly. I am very pleased that, during my
>> absence, no one else took on the mantle of
>>
>> Beach. The Butler's Pantry, Blandings Castle.
>>
>Oh! There you are, Beach. What a capital idea! Amazing how you butler
>fellows waft in and out without so much as stirring a hair. I must agree
>that I was pleased that no one dared to sneak into my court shoes during
>my absence.
>
>Do you think we could have a couple of G&T's and a small can of lard to
>take down to the boathouse? Thank you.
>
>Roberta Wickham
>
Lard Miss? I will see what cook can do. The drinks will be with you
shortly, miss.
Bianchi
>I have a slightly different suggestion to put forward, for
>what it's worth.
>However, I see no reason why pseudonyms should be assigned
>(or reserved) in perpetuity. What I propose is that we set
>an informal expiration policy on unused names. If a person
>selects a name and then doesn't use it for, let us say, two
>months, then that name ought to be made available to the
>general public.
>Opinions?
>M. Scully/E. Gospodinoff
>(Who thinks we need a Jeeves and wouldn't mind stepping in)
>msc...@acm.org
that is an excellent idea, except who is going to keep track of the
dates? And I don/t know. having a Jeeves is kind of like taking the
Lord's name in vain, dont you think? Lady Contance
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Garveydd
Of course you may call me Mr. Garvey if you wish. I think, however, that
the less formal "Darrell" (the "d" in "garveydd" - actually the first "d"
in "garveydd", the second "d" stands for - ah, er, I've lost the point
now haven't I) is much preferable.
Alas, poetry is not my bailiwick. Writing poetry that is. I will read a
sonnet as well as the next fellow -- haiku, limericks best of all. My
commercial duties, however, allow no time to put pen to page.
Regarding the Noms de Plum - Since my last correspondence, I have had
occasion to travel to the Wodehouse Web Site. Once I was able to wade
past various Drones lobbing crusty rolls hither and yon, I found the
listing of noms. It will take no small amount of work to find a suitable
nom, but I feel certain that I am up to the task.
Yours most sincerely,
Darrell (for now)