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nathan_w...@hotmail.com

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Jun 2, 2004, 9:32:00 PM6/2/04
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I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember me.
I started and American ewok farm to combat nick's Australian monopoly.
Unfortunately, Americans did not take well to a healthy glass of ewok juice
instead on Coca-Cola. I went under and could not afford USENET access again
until now.

One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I wore
out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P

Soulman

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Jun 4, 2004, 6:44:45 AM6/4/04
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<nathan_w...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I
wore
> out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P

No, but I can bitch-slap you if you want. We ran out of newbie-gifts, those
brave Porkinites at alt.fan.porkinites stole them all. I've heard they
sacrifice the Wedge Bunny Slippers to Porkins.

--
Soulman
"Veijo Esso, here I come!"


Brian

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Jun 4, 2004, 4:26:39 PM6/4/04
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> I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember
me.

Hello, and welcome back :D


> I started and American ewok farm to combat nick's Australian monopoly.
> Unfortunately, Americans did not take well to a healthy glass of ewok
juice
> instead on Coca-Cola. I went under and could not afford USENET access
again
> until now.

ehhh...sucks :/

>
> One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I
wore
> out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P

Well then...let's see what I have in my big box of stuff.....hmmmm.....here
ya go <throws out a pair of almost new ewok slippers>. Like some Ewok stew
while we're here?

And a little hint - there are these people around here who aren't
AFWers....they're the inmates of Alt.Fan.Porkins. Ignore them. They never
have anything useful to say, and only want to spam us because we're not
Porkins fans.

Undoubtably, one of them will reply to my message and try to taunt me into
fighting back. I won't. You lose, Porkinites, you glorified spammers!


Again, welcome back :)

~Brian.


Muuurgh

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Jun 5, 2004, 3:16:57 PM6/5/04
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"Brian" <nice...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> > I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember
> me.
>
> Hello, and welcome back :D
> > I started and American ewok farm to combat nick's Australian monopoly.
> > Unfortunately, Americans did not take well to a healthy glass of ewok
> juice
> > instead on Coca-Cola. I went under and could not afford USENET access
> again
> > until now.
> ehhh...sucks :/
>
> >
> > One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I
> wore
> > out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P
>
> Well then...let's see what I have in my big box of
stuff.....hmmmm.....here
> ya go <throws out a pair of almost new ewok slippers>. Like some Ewok
stew
> while we're here?
>
> And a little hint - there are these people around here who aren't
> AFWers....they're the inmates of Alt.Fan.Porkins. Ignore them. They
never
> have anything useful to say, and only want to spam us because we're not
> Porkins fans.

*starts typing*

>
> Undoubtably, one of them will reply to my message and try to taunt me into
> fighting back. I won't. You lose, Porkinites, you glorified spammers!

"D'Oh!"

>
>
> Again, welcome back :)
>
> ~Brian.

Thanks.
-Muuurgh
Porkins is your Daddy.


>

>


Muuurgh

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Jun 5, 2004, 3:17:30 PM6/5/04
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<nathan_w...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Join us over at afp, have a bratwurst and a beer.

-Muuurgh


Nathan

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Jun 5, 2004, 8:18:33 PM6/5/04
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Thanks you for the slippers. now my feet feel much better. Ewok stew?
wouldn't the meet be pretty tough?

Porkinites? I never thought i'd see the day that people worshiped a false
god such as porkinites. There is only one True Animist Warrior God and his
name is Wedge. Repent porkinites. Repent. It is not to late to be forgiven
for your heathen ways. Repent and come back to the light.

--
~Nathan
I was a Wraith in a former life. A Rogue in this one.
Next time I hope to come back as a Squirrel.
FEAR THE SQUIRRELLS!!!!!

Nathan

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Jun 5, 2004, 8:21:00 PM6/5/04
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Ouch! ;-)

Sharon Kerr

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Jun 6, 2004, 10:24:25 AM6/6/04
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> Join us over at afp, have a bratwurst and a beer.
>
Novel new way of getting rid of porkinites. Turn them into bratwursts, and
feed them to a dead man who goes by the name of Porkins.

Now... where's the stun-prod, the hooks, the knives, and the sausage skins?

> -Muuurgh

-Sharon


Soulman

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Jun 7, 2004, 6:03:51 AM6/7/04
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"Brian" <nice...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> > I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember
> me.
>
> Hello, and welcome back :D
> > I started and American ewok farm to combat nick's Australian monopoly.
> > Unfortunately, Americans did not take well to a healthy glass of ewok
> juice
> > instead on Coca-Cola. I went under and could not afford USENET access
> again
> > until now.
> ehhh...sucks :/
>
> >
> > One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I
> wore
> > out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P
>
> Well then...let's see what I have in my big box of
stuff.....hmmmm.....here
> ya go <throws out a pair of almost new ewok slippers>. Like some Ewok
stew
> while we're here?
>
> And a little hint - there are these people around here who aren't
> AFWers....they're the inmates of Alt.Fan.Porkins. Ignore them. They
never
> have anything useful to say, and only want to spam us because we're not
> Porkins fans.
>

Dude, you don't know the difference between spam and trolling. Spammers try
to sell you stuff. What have I ever tried to sell to you? Okay, C'Pi's soul
once, but that's different. Instead we just try to irritate you - hence we
are trolls.

You can't tell the difference between a troll and a spammer... How silly is
that.
Have you heard this one:
- Do you know the difference between a horse's ass and a mailbox?
- No, what?
- Err.. I'm not gonna let you mail this letter for me, that's for sure... :D

Dear Brian, you are so funny. Keep up the good work.

Sincerelly,
your friendly neighbourhood Spammer.. I mean Troll! ;)

Sharon Kerr

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Jun 7, 2004, 6:59:16 AM6/7/04
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> Dude, you don't know the difference between spam and trolling. Spammers
try
> to sell you stuff. What have I ever tried to sell to you? Okay, C'Pi's
soul
> once, but that's different. Instead we just try to irritate you - hence we
> are trolls.

Well, being a Porkinite, I figure it's more polite to call you spammers.
Goes with the territory ;-)

Spam is food, right? And Porkins likes his food too much, right? And you
like Porkins... so... you're spammers ;-)

-Sharon


Soulman

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Jun 7, 2004, 7:55:25 AM6/7/04
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"Sharon Kerr" <sharo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Spam isn't food. It's just... spam. Where's the culinarism in that, I ask?

"Hammers" is the term you are looking for, as in "One who hams". :)

C'Pi is the greatest hammer of us all, so he's the "Sledge Hammer" and
Muuurgh is "Jack Hammer".

Here's something sick: http://www.modernsurf.com/spam/spamanm.gif

Sharon Kerr

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Jun 9, 2004, 7:43:22 AM6/9/04
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> Spam isn't food. It's just... spam. Where's the culinarism in that, I ask?
>
> "Hammers" is the term you are looking for, as in "One who hams". :)


Nah, hammers are amateur radio people, at least in the UK, so you can't be
hammers. Porkins was probably too lazy to bother learning how to use radios.

-Sharon


Soulman

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Jun 9, 2004, 8:08:22 AM6/9/04
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"Sharon Kerr" <sharo...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Well we aren't in the UK right now, are we? Well, I suppose you are but not
me. I didn't mean radio amateur, I explained it already, didn't I? Oh,
sorry, I forgot I'm talking to a wedgie... Well, let me explain this seven
more times and then you'll propably get it. :)

"Hammer" as in "Porkins sure likes eating his ham. He's a real hammer,
init?"

Get it?

Kristy

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Jun 22, 2004, 10:01:16 PM6/22/04
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nathan_w...@hotmail.com wrote:
>I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember me.

Heh--if I could only remember what I had for lunch yesterday!

Anyway, welcome back!! Sooner or later they all return to the Great
One. :o)

>One question: Since I've been away so long do I get new NEWBIE gifts? I wore
>out my Ewok Slippers. My toes are cold. I NEED NEW SLIPPERS!!!! :-P

Sigh--only if you can find someone with a stash (and, having been away
for a while, I see that you have). Nick's farm is pretty much out of
business, too, unfortunately. It's a dark time for AFW.

prophet kristy

"There are many Antilles, but there is only one Wedge."
http://www.terra-group.org/afw
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~khensche

Brian

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Jun 24, 2004, 5:05:27 PM6/24/04
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<snip>

> Dude, you don't know the difference between spam and trolling. Spammers
try
> to sell you stuff. What have I ever tried to sell to you? Okay, C'Pi's
soul
> once, but that's different. Instead we just try to irritate you - hence we
> are trolls.
>
> You can't tell the difference between a troll and a spammer... How silly
is
> that.
> Have you heard this one:
> - Do you know the difference between a horse's ass and a mailbox?
> - No, what?
> - Err.. I'm not gonna let you mail this letter for me, that's for sure...
:D
>
> Dear Brian, you are so funny. Keep up the good work.
>
> Sincerelly,
> your friendly neighbourhood Spammer.. I mean Troll! ;)
>
>

My dear Soulman, trolls are people who annoy other people. Spammers are
people who are doing it because they don't know any better... Spam is
unwanted stuff. AFP people post unwanted posts, hence you are merely
spammers, not even the trolls that you aspire to be....

~Brian.

(Opps, sent this one to Soulman, not AFW >.< )


Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen'

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Jul 23, 2004, 3:21:04 PM7/23/04
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Yes, yes, replying to a month-old thread and all. With all due
apologies.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Kristy declared:

> nathan_w...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >I'm back. I was here once a few years back. Maybe some of you remember me.
>
> Heh--if I could only remember what I had for lunch yesterday!
>
> Anyway, welcome back!! Sooner or later they all return to the Great
> One. :o)

Speaking of which...

*hurriedly passes around earmuffs before the Prophetess catches
her breath, because once the shrieks start you're all going to need
them*


Anyway. See what Nathan said above? Me too.

The Rebel symbol has ever been taped on my monitor, the Wedge
statue still defends my lab desk and the Great One in his X-Wing
still overlooks and defends my apartment; I have not lapsed in the
faith of the TAWG---I've just been on extended break.

Now I'm going to do my homework. Already started: Currently
rereading Rogue Squadron, and won't stop until all the Assigned
Material is finished. I need a bit more lurking to see what y'all
are talking about nowadays...

(Can I have a little cup of Ewok juice? Missed that. I can
take over the remains of the farm until Nick is less... indisposed.)

--
Zeynep Dilli/Morwen

**** Always looking to the future...
**** Antilles/Celchu'04

-----BEGIN AFW GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
GTC/WA/CH d--(+) s: a26 b+>++ c- t++(+) TAWG++ WR++ DR--- C+++
WEB++ QX--(-) KD--- BF-- LC+ LS+ /---(--) AFW+++ h* x?
-----END AFW GEEK CODE BLOCK-----


Will Frank

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Jul 23, 2004, 4:09:02 PM7/23/04
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Also Sprach Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen':

> Anyway. See what Nathan said above? Me too.

About damn time. *grin*

--
Thinker, Fighter, Will "scifantasy" Frank
Reader, Writer, wmf...@stwing.upenn.edu
Artist, Gamer, http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~wmfrank
Modern-Day Geek. AIM: scifanta42

Brian

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Jul 23, 2004, 5:29:02 PM7/23/04
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Welcome back :)

> (Can I have a little cup of Ewok juice? Missed that. I can
> take over the remains of the farm until Nick is less... indisposed.)
>

Here you go! <hands over a steaming mug> From a fresh Ewok :) Sure, take
over the farm :) I just want the darn things out of my garden!

~Brian.
~Semi-lurker


Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen'

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Aug 12, 2004, 2:27:16 PM8/12/04
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Brian declared:

*revamps to-do list*

* finish the [mutter] data analysis code
* build shed in garden of apartment complex
* decorate shed with many lofts and loft-beds connected together
with rope bridges and the like
* do the [mutter] data analysis
* move Ewoks in in the middle of the night
* argue with maintenance people the next morning about
aforementioned shed
* avow all responsibility, tell maintenance people that if they want
the shed gone, they should reason with the residents
* arrange lab date for next round of experiments
* make sure Ewoks have healthy supply of sticks and rocks for when
maintenance people get to see them
* design another chip

Yup, it seems like I can carry the Ph.D. work along with the farm.
no problem.

[Rereading. Up to _Bacta War_ now. I still think the emergence
of Lusankya is one of the Best Visuals Ever in a book.]

--
Zeynep Dilli

GE/MU/S/L d--(+) s: a24 C++ US+ P L+>++ E-- W++>$ N++ K++ w>-- !O M- V?
PS+ PE(-) Y+ !PGP t- !5 !X R+ tv-- b+++>++++ DI+ D G e++$>+++ h* x?


Brian

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Aug 13, 2004, 6:45:32 PM8/13/04
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> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Brian declared:
>
> > Welcome back :)
> >
> > > (Can I have a little cup of Ewok juice? Missed that. I can
> > > take over the remains of the farm until Nick is less... indisposed.)
> > >
> > Here you go! <hands over a steaming mug> From a fresh Ewok :)
> > Sure, take over the farm :) I just want the darn things out of my
> > garden!
>
> *revamps to-do list*
>
> * finish the [mutter] data analysis code
> * build shed in garden of apartment complex
> * decorate shed with many lofts and loft-beds connected together
> with rope bridges and the like
> * do the [mutter] data analysis
> * move Ewoks in in the middle of the night
> * argue with maintenance people the next morning about
> aforementioned shed
> * avow all responsibility, tell maintenance people that if they want
> the shed gone, they should reason with the residents
> * arrange lab date for next round of experiments
> * make sure Ewoks have healthy supply of sticks and rocks for when
> maintenance people get to see them
> * design another chip
>
> Yup, it seems like I can carry the Ph.D. work along with the farm.
> no problem.

Ah good :) Incidentally, I live in England, so are you ok with picking up
those Ewoks, still? I can put them all in a big ship and send it to you,
wherever you live...I'm just worried about customs :S

>
> [Rereading. Up to _Bacta War_ now. I still think the emergence
> of Lusankya is one of the Best Visuals Ever in a book.]

Totally agree there. Utterly :)

~Brian, who is way to tired to type sense.


Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen'

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Aug 24, 2004, 10:10:26 AM8/24/04
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Brian declared:

> > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Brian declared:
> >

[Morwen takes over Ewok farm]

>
> Ah good :) Incidentally, I live in England, so are you ok with
> picking up those Ewoks, still? I can put them all in a big ship
> and send it to you, wherever you live...I'm just worried about
> customs :S
>

Ship will work. Find someone to smuggle them up the Chesapeake
Bay---the Bay that has Baltimore Harbor on it---and I'll find a way
to pick them up. Customs need never know.

> > [Rereading. Up to _Bacta War_ now. I still think the
> > emergence of Lusankya is one of the Best Visuals Ever in a
> > book.]
>
> Totally agree there. Utterly :)

I remember once seeing a piece of artwork that depicted that
scene. I can't find it again :-(. Anyone know where it is?

Just finished with the Wraith books. This time through, having
read so much Pratchett in the intervening years, I had a chance to
compare styles, and found myself wondering what would happen if
Aaron ever attempted black humor. Something scary and magnificent,
I'll bet.

Restarting the Zahn Trilogy now.

Will Frank

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Aug 24, 2004, 10:45:56 AM8/24/04
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Also Sprach Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen':

> Just finished with the Wraith books. This time through, having


> read so much Pratchett in the intervening years, I had a chance to
> compare styles, and found myself wondering what would happen if
> Aaron ever attempted black humor. Something scary and magnificent,
> I'll bet.

Would the NJO books he did qualify?

Aaron Allston

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Aug 24, 2004, 3:54:05 PM8/24/04
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen' wrote:

> Just finished with the Wraith books. This time through, having
> read so much Pratchett in the intervening years, I had a chance to
> compare styles, and found myself wondering what would happen if
> Aaron ever attempted black humor. Something scary and magnificent,
> I'll bet.

I hope that will happen some day. Black humor is among my favorites, and
I'm not dead yet...

-- Aaron
Still lurking after all these years

Will Frank

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Aug 24, 2004, 9:06:38 PM8/24/04
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Also Sprach Aaron Allston:

<Aaron Allston doing black humor>

> I hope that will happen some day. Black humor is among my favorites, and
> I'm not dead yet...

Whoa! Cool.

So, does this mean you aren't counting _Rebel Stand_ and _Rebel Dream_
as black humor?

Aaron Allston

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Aug 25, 2004, 7:07:10 PM8/25/04
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Will Frank wrote:

> So, does this mean you aren't counting _Rebel Stand_ and _Rebel Dream_
> as black humor?

No, not at all. The Enemy Lines duology is still action/adventure, and
though the characters do wisecrack in situations of extreme danger, that
sort of humor isn't the primary element of the story.

Contrast that with, say, the film adaptation of The Loved One, or Dr.
Strangelove, in which the awfulness of the situation is largely deserved
rather than something that we have any right to hope the protagonists
can overcome, and the difference starts to come into focus.

The two short stories I did for Star Wars Insider begin to lean a little
more toward black humor, because the humor arises from situations that
are, for the most part, completely hopeless -- especially in League of
Spies. In those stories, we know that the Emperor is going to win out
(at least for a matter of decades), so the situations that Joram Kithe
notices and struggles against, the situations that result in the
stories' humor, are ones that probably cannot be overcome; it is in
embracing them that we allow our humor to become black humor.

== Aaron Allston
== Writer
== all...@AaronAllston.com
== http://www.AaronAllston.com/

Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen'

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Aug 26, 2004, 12:15:10 PM8/26/04
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Aaron Allston declared:

> (Still lurking after all these years...)

And there was much rejoicing... even though you got the song
stuck in my head now.

> Will Frank wrote:
>
> > So, does this mean you aren't counting _Rebel Stand_ and _Rebel
> > Dream_ as black humor?
>
> No, not at all. The Enemy Lines duology is still action/adventure,
> and though the characters do wisecrack in situations of extreme
> danger, that sort of humor isn't the primary element of the story.

I was going to reply to that question when Will asked it earlier,
but naturally your answer is more authoritative---

> Contrast that with, say, the film adaptation of The Loved One, or
> Dr. Strangelove, in which the awfulness of the situation is
> largely deserved rather than something that we have any right to
> hope the protagonists can overcome, and the difference starts to
> come into focus.

---yes, that was more what I meant by "black humor." The whole
Wraiths as mess-ups that redeem themselves theme does start to
suggest it, but doesn't take it all the way, because that wasn't
your intention. But I can't beat the feeling that if that ever
becamse your intention, the result would be... well, glorious and
scary.

I'm not quite sure how to clarify where I got the link from
Pratchett. He doesn't do precisely black humor either, but he does
do satire, and some of the things he slashes to bits (for instance,
in _Men at Arms_, where he tears into the whole idea of
nationalistic wars) we have not been able to change; some of the
things that are fixed in Ankh-Morpork we cannot fix in our Western
Civilization, so he leaves the reader feeling bittersweet.

Which is close to where you left us with Phanan and Face, maybe.
Still, the Wraiths win in the end, and whatever can be fixed is
fixed...

(Finished _Solo Command_, saw no reason to stop there, went on to
the Zahn Trilogy. I think I'm not stopping until _Starfighters of
Adamar_ and then Tim's last two books.)


> The two short stories I did for Star Wars Insider begin to lean a
> little more toward black humor, because the humor arises from
> situations that are, for the most part, completely hopeless --
> especially in League of Spies. In those stories, we know that the
> Emperor is going to win out (at least for a matter of decades), so
> the situations that Joram Kithe notices and struggles against, the
> situations that result in the stories' humor, are ones that
> probably cannot be overcome; it is in embracing them that we allow
> our humor to become black humor.

I should probably try to find those issues...


> == Aaron Allston
> == Writer
> == all...@AaronAllston.com
> == http://www.AaronAllston.com/

Obligatory smartmouth comment: You do realize that if you replace
"Writer" with "Author", your trip to the Alliterative Side will be
complete...

(grin, duck and run)

Brian

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Aug 27, 2004, 6:11:00 PM8/27/04
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Funny experience.

Just reading this thread, and thought to my self "Oh, this poster knows what
he's talking about. Cool! He's written published stories!"

Then I looked at who posted it. Talk about getting a shock! I'd forgotten
that Aaron and Mike still lurk here....

<Waves hello to Aaron> You nearly gave me a heart attack! :p

~Brian.
~Today's moral is: Always take note of the author of a post before you read
it. It helps.


Brian

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Aug 27, 2004, 6:13:03 PM8/27/04
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"Zeynep Dilli / 'Morwen'" <di...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
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>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Brian declared:
>
> > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Brian declared:
> > >
>
> [Morwen takes over Ewok farm]
>
> >
> > Ah good :) Incidentally, I live in England, so are you ok with
> > picking up those Ewoks, still? I can put them all in a big ship
> > and send it to you, wherever you live...I'm just worried about
> > customs :S
> >
>
> Ship will work. Find someone to smuggle them up the Chesapeake
> Bay---the Bay that has Baltimore Harbor on it---and I'll find a way
> to pick them up. Customs need never know.
>
Aw heck. Ship might work, but there's a scary lack of ships in the town I
live in o.0 Don't worry, I'll get my Trekky friend to beam them all over to
you. But don't tell anyone how they got there.... ;)

~Brian.


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