Re: Looking for a wysisyg html editor for linux

[Steve Carroll]

"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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> "Hadron" <hadro...@gmail.com> stated in post
> ga3ue7$hie$1...@registered.motzarella.org on 9/8/08 12:28 PM:
>
>> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
>>
>>> "chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> stated in post
>>> 70uac41dvd4fnj2k3...@4ax.com on 9/8/08 12:08 PM:
>>>
>>>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nope. It is not just *my* preferences.
>>>>> You are trampling on the preferences of a *lot* of people with
>>>>> such a design. You are forcing *your* preferences on others.
>>>>> Extremely bad design
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not bad from Shit's perspective. He loves to annoy people,
>>>> you know...
>>>
>>> Just for fun I decided to Google fixed-with vs. liquid. The
>>> prevailing wisdom *clearly* agrees with me and not Peter (surprise
>>> surprise, LOL!). Here is a sampling:
>>>
>>> <http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/css_mastery2/>
>>> -----
>>> Fixed-width layouts are very common as they give the
>>> developer more control over layout and positioning. If you
>>> set the width of your design to be 720 pixels wide, it will
>>> always be 720 pixels. If you then want a branding image
>>> spanning the top of your design, you know it needs to be 720
>>> pixels wide to fit. Knowing the exact width of each element
>>> allows you to lay them out precisely and know where
>>> everything will be. This predictability makes fixed-width
>>> layout by far the most common layout method around.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> <http://www.boagworld.com/design/liquid_vs_fixed_design/>
>>> -----
>>> Each approach has its own benefits and drawbacks. As with
>>> many things in life, the trend for different approaches has
>>> changed over the years. Personally, my preference has always
>>> been towards fixed width design but it liquid design has many
>>> benefits too.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> <http://www.webmaster-source.com/2008/05/21/fixed-vs-liquid-layouts/>
>>> -----
>>> This is yet another web-related topic that gets people
>>> arguing. Not quite as bad as łMac vs. PC,˛ it really gets
>>> some people going. Which is better, a fixed-width layout, or
>>> a fluid one that resizes to fit the browser window. Unlike
>>> some people, I say that it depends on the project, and that
>>> there isnąt a one-size-fits-all solution (though I do lean
>>> slightly toward fixed-width layouts).
>>> -----
>>>
>>> <http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archive/2003/11/fixed-width-vs-liquid-layou
>>> t-your-take.php>
>>> -----
>>> Iąm similarly at odds on this issue. On some sites I prefer a
>>> liquid layout and on others I prefer fixed. I think it might
>>> come down to audience and the type of content. I do imagine
>>> there are people out there who prefer one or the other no
>>> matter what as well.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> For Peter to say it is "extremely bad web design" is just silly...
>>> and shows off how little he knows in the areas of web design.
>>> Seriously, is there *any* technical topic he is not amazingly
>>> ignorant on? For that matter is there any technical topic you will
>>> not jump in to support Peter no matter how wrong he is? If you can
>>> think of one I would love to hear about
>>> it!
>>
>> I spent a lot of time playing with "liquid" layout. Its a pain and
>> just made the smart arse float kings and css masters even more
>> unbearable. Simple things like 3 column layout are a nightmare to
>> work on all browsers. The best sites which win awards invariably
>> still use fixed width tables rather than floats for example.
>
> I have examples of table-based layouts here:
>
> <http://prescottcomputerguy.org/yc/CSA144/layout/>
>
> While it is possible to do the same thing as I do with the columned
> liquid layouts when using just CSS it is a pain... but with tables it
> should work about the same in all browsers. If you have a very wide
> monitor, though (or to some extent a very narrow one) the liquid
> layouts often cause problems... and the "fixes" do not work in all
> browsers.

Tablles for layout. Only you, Snit... only you.

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