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fasgnadh
Oct 11, 2009, 8:45:45 AM10/11/09
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Virgil wrote:
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Virgil wrote:
>>> In article <XccAm.46713$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Collective Responsibility is an Evil Doctrine in which an entire
>>>>>>>> group is held responsible for, blamed and PUNISHED for the
>>>>>>>> crimes committed by individual members of that group,
>>>>>>>> or even people who are not members of the group but
>>>>>>>> who can be tarnished with Guilt by Association.
>>>
>>> That is the core of
>>
>> these atheist posts:
>>
>>
>> In response to a calm rational exposition of Islam's historical
>> contribution to the rights of women, something acknowledged by all
>> serious scholars we get this descent into stereotype and bigotry;
>>
>>
>> #From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: Women's liberation through Islam
>> # Message-ID: <sn80d55gj7rl0gjt1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:35:39 -0700
>> #
>> # On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:29:40 -0500, Uncle Vic wrote:
>> #
>> # >One fine day in alt.atheism, "Firnando" wrote:
>> # >
>>
>> The OP simply states the teachings of Islam
>>
>> # >> Islam, fourteen centuries ago, made women equally accountable to
>> # >> Allaah in glorifying and worshipping Him - setting no limits on her
>> # >> moral progress. Also, Islam established a woman's equality in her
>> # >> humanity with men.
>>
>> The atheist response is to IGNORE what the OP is saying,
>> find an ATYPICAL "Dirty Jew" example and crucify all Muslims,
>> including the OP who clearly does NOT endorse this ATYPICAL
>> behaviour
>>
>> # > Why, then, do certain Islamic nations require women to wear
>> # > a Burka in public?
>>
>> It is not hard to demonstrate how this is CRUDE STEREOTYPING
>>
>> Americans have seen it for years. A black man steals a watermelon,
>> All blacks are shifty thieves.
>>
>> There are 1.37 BILLION Muslims in the world. The largest Muslim nation,
>> Indonesia, has 203,000,000 people, 100,000,000 women, NONE OF WHOM
>> WEAR A BURKA.
>>
>> So, the OP who represents the Vast Majority of Muslims on the planet,
>> who do NOT support wearing the Burka, let alone FORCING it on women, is
>> now to be abused for that which he OPPOSES;
>>
>>
>> # > Then FUCK your idea of equality.
>>
>> The next Atheist takes the firsts atheists PREJUDICE and BIGOTRY
>> as a newly proven 'fact' and continues to abuse the OP with a new
>> layer of PROJECTED FABRICATION.. the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the
>> OP was saying about women.. "a woman's equality in her humanity
>> with men." is replaced by the Atheist's PROJECTION
>>
>> # The islamer's superstition wants to control this
>> # instinctual command. Saying the woman is dirty because
>> # 'they' make a man want to... fuck.
>> # They push my instinct. Dirty bitches. How dare you make me
>> # horny! It's your fault! Not mine. Put this sack on!
>> #
>> # To me, islamic men are not men. They are eunuchs castrated
>> # by their belief. Pitiful penis obsessed morons that haven't
>> # a clue of the true meaning of being a man.
>>
>> And so the atheist stereotyping has completely ignored the OPs'
>> viewpoint, projected it's opposite as a GROUP STEREOTYPE, and
>> then abused him for it. The starting point is an atypical
>> behaviour, for which the atheists hold ALL MULSIMS responsible,
>> even to the Nazi extremes of COMPLETELY DE-HUMANISING those
>> they wish to persecute "islamic men are not men"
>>
>> The Nazi Untermensch.
>>
>>
>> Once they define people as Sub Human, they can 'justify', in
>> their own minds, ANY Atrocity committed against them!
>>
>> _________________________________
>>
>>
>>> Note that atheiss not
>> > subscribe to this false
>>> argument of collective responsibility or Guilt by association,
>>
>>
>> Clearly they DO;
>>
>>
>> # From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
>> # Message-ID:
>> <128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
>> # Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> #
>> # On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
>> #
>> # >
>> # > We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> # > and not in a girly way.
>> # >
>> # > Warlord Steve
>> # > BAAWA
>> #
>> # ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> # BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
>>
>> Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
>>
>> Elsewhere Trance pontificates hypocritically on the violence
>> perpetrated against women, when she has just openly advocated
>> killing 1-2 BILLION women for simply being Female Theists! 8^o
>>
>> They are to be killed for singing in a choir! 8^o
>>
>> They are to be murdered and mutilated for running the
>> programs to help rape victims and those subjected to
>> domestic violence! 8^o
>>
>> That includes 80 year old Grandmas in Churches, Synagogues, Mosques
>> and Temples! 8^o
>>
>> That is HATE SPEACH based on vile prejudice and the
>> grossest of stereotypes!
>>
>> _______________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> Subject: Re: Violence Against Women :{
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
>> Message-ID:
>> <feb42f61-64c7-4a78...@o41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> # On Oct 2, 8:52=A0pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
>> # >
>>
>>
>> The OP presents links to a russian blog, containing
>> difficult to source or substantiate references to
>> attacks on women burning and scarring them.
>> All the purported events are in Pakistan.
>>
>> http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=3Dauto|en&u=3Dhttp://dezin=
>> fo.net/post/6135
>> # >
>> # > Translated page, of course
>> # >
>> # > Originalhttp://dezinfo.net/post/6135
>>
>> From these attacks, which occur only in Pakistan, nowhere
>> repeated in Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation on the planet,
>> we have another atheist bigot deciding that ALL Muslims, even
>> the female victims, are COLLECTIVELY Reswponsible and held
>> to blame.
>>
>> # This sort of things tells us everything we need to know about Islam.
>>
>> Only if you are an ignorant, hate filled atheist BIGOT,
>> who is complicit in the Evil doctrine of Collective Responsibility.
>>
>>> Fasgnadh,
>>
>> refuses to
>>
>>> blame all atheists for the acts of any atheist
>>
>> and that is why I provide Evidence for those I accuse.
>>
>> Slowly I am educating Usenet to recognise the stereotypes
>> and bigotry behind most atheist posts in alt.atheism;
>>
>>> all males must also be guilty, by association, for the acts of any
>>> one male or groups of males, and all humans must be guilty, by
>>> association, for the acts of any human or groups of humans.
> fasgnadh wrote:
>> Virgil wrote:
>>> In article <XccAm.46713$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> Collective Responsibility is an Evil Doctrine in which an entire
>>>>>>>> group is held responsible for, blamed and PUNISHED for the
>>>>>>>> crimes committed by individual members of that group,
>>>>>>>> or even people who are not members of the group but
>>>>>>>> who can be tarnished with Guilt by Association.
>>>
>>> That is the core of
>>
>> these atheist posts:
>>
>>
>> In response to a calm rational exposition of Islam's historical
>> contribution to the rights of women, something acknowledged by all
>> serious scholars we get this descent into stereotype and bigotry;
>>
>>
>> #From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: Women's liberation through Islam
>> # Message-ID: <sn80d55gj7rl0gjt1...@4ax.com>
>> # Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:35:39 -0700
>> #
>> # On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:29:40 -0500, Uncle Vic wrote:
>> #
>> # >One fine day in alt.atheism, "Firnando" wrote:
>> # >
>>
>> The OP simply states the teachings of Islam
>>
>> # >> Islam, fourteen centuries ago, made women equally accountable to
>> # >> Allaah in glorifying and worshipping Him - setting no limits on her
>> # >> moral progress. Also, Islam established a woman's equality in her
>> # >> humanity with men.
>>
>> The atheist response is to IGNORE what the OP is saying,
>> find an ATYPICAL "Dirty Jew" example and crucify all Muslims,
>> including the OP who clearly does NOT endorse this ATYPICAL
>> behaviour
>>
>> # > Why, then, do certain Islamic nations require women to wear
>> # > a Burka in public?
>>
>> It is not hard to demonstrate how this is CRUDE STEREOTYPING
>>
>> Americans have seen it for years. A black man steals a watermelon,
>> All blacks are shifty thieves.
>>
>> There are 1.37 BILLION Muslims in the world. The largest Muslim nation,
>> Indonesia, has 203,000,000 people, 100,000,000 women, NONE OF WHOM
>> WEAR A BURKA.
>>
>> So, the OP who represents the Vast Majority of Muslims on the planet,
>> who do NOT support wearing the Burka, let alone FORCING it on women, is
>> now to be abused for that which he OPPOSES;
>>
>>
>> # > Then FUCK your idea of equality.
>>
>> The next Atheist takes the firsts atheists PREJUDICE and BIGOTRY
>> as a newly proven 'fact' and continues to abuse the OP with a new
>> layer of PROJECTED FABRICATION.. the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the
>> OP was saying about women.. "a woman's equality in her humanity
>> with men." is replaced by the Atheist's PROJECTION
>>
>> # The islamer's superstition wants to control this
>> # instinctual command. Saying the woman is dirty because
>> # 'they' make a man want to... fuck.
>> # They push my instinct. Dirty bitches. How dare you make me
>> # horny! It's your fault! Not mine. Put this sack on!
>> #
>> # To me, islamic men are not men. They are eunuchs castrated
>> # by their belief. Pitiful penis obsessed morons that haven't
>> # a clue of the true meaning of being a man.
>>
>> And so the atheist stereotyping has completely ignored the OPs'
>> viewpoint, projected it's opposite as a GROUP STEREOTYPE, and
>> then abused him for it. The starting point is an atypical
>> behaviour, for which the atheists hold ALL MULSIMS responsible,
>> even to the Nazi extremes of COMPLETELY DE-HUMANISING those
>> they wish to persecute "islamic men are not men"
>>
>> The Nazi Untermensch.
>>
>>
>> Once they define people as Sub Human, they can 'justify', in
>> their own minds, ANY Atrocity committed against them!
>>
>> _________________________________
>>
>>
>>> Note that atheiss not
>> > subscribe to this false
>>> argument of collective responsibility or Guilt by association,
>>
>>
>> Clearly they DO;
>>
>>
>> # From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
>> # Message-ID:
>> <128235a0-640d-495a...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>
>> # Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> #
>> # On Sep 26, 5:46=A0am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
>> #
>> # >
>> # > We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> # > and not in a girly way.
>> # >
>> # > Warlord Steve
>> # > BAAWA
>> #
>> # ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> # BAAWA Knightette (?) Applicant
>>
>> Trance signs up to Kill theists and shit down their throats. 8^o
>>
>> Elsewhere Trance pontificates hypocritically on the violence
>> perpetrated against women, when she has just openly advocated
>> killing 1-2 BILLION women for simply being Female Theists! 8^o
>>
>> They are to be killed for singing in a choir! 8^o
>>
>> They are to be murdered and mutilated for running the
>> programs to help rape victims and those subjected to
>> domestic violence! 8^o
>>
>> That includes 80 year old Grandmas in Churches, Synagogues, Mosques
>> and Temples! 8^o
>>
>> That is HATE SPEACH based on vile prejudice and the
>> grossest of stereotypes!
>>
>> _______________________________________
>>
>>
>> From: Trance Gemini <trance...@gmail.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> Subject: Re: Violence Against Women :{
>> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 18:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
>> Message-ID:
>> <feb42f61-64c7-4a78...@o41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> # On Oct 2, 8:52=A0pm, stoney <sto...@the.net> wrote:
>> # >
>>
>>
>> The OP presents links to a russian blog, containing
>> difficult to source or substantiate references to
>> attacks on women burning and scarring them.
>> All the purported events are in Pakistan.
>>
>> http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=3Dauto|en&u=3Dhttp://dezin=
>> fo.net/post/6135
>> # >
>> # > Translated page, of course
>> # >
>> # > Originalhttp://dezinfo.net/post/6135
>>
>> From these attacks, which occur only in Pakistan, nowhere
>> repeated in Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation on the planet,
>> we have another atheist bigot deciding that ALL Muslims, even
>> the female victims, are COLLECTIVELY Reswponsible and held
>> to blame.
>>
>> # This sort of things tells us everything we need to know about Islam.
>>
>> Only if you are an ignorant, hate filled atheist BIGOT,
>> who is complicit in the Evil doctrine of Collective Responsibility.
>>
>>> Fasgnadh,
>>
>> refuses to
>>
>>> blame all atheists for the acts of any atheist
>>
>> and that is why I provide Evidence for those I accuse.
>>
>> Slowly I am educating Usenet to recognise the stereotypes
>> and bigotry behind most atheist posts in alt.atheism;
>>
>>> all males must also be guilty, by association, for the acts of any
>>> one male or groups of males, and all humans must be guilty, by
>>> association, for the acts of any human or groups of humans.
Opposition to the
> evil collective-responsibility
of the atheist dogmatists and bigots and their
> accusations against innocent
Muslim women and children from
> atheists
Opposition to
> foul
> athesists is the duty of all honest people,
> regardless of their beliefs
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