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Simp

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May 21, 2020, 1:33:26 PM5/21/20
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It doesnt make any sense to me how people prefer a Socialist-controlled centralized social media network in which opinions are controlled and removed over a free speech network like Usenet in which information can flow and disseminate quickly and easily. I dont need Facebook. I dont need Instagram. These companies exist to control America through brainwashing and fake news.

If you dont like a specific news server, you can just go on another one and interact with the Usenet network. If you dont like Facebook, you cant communicate with the Facebook network without having a FB account.

While other networks come and go, Usenet survives.

Its a shame (or a pleasure) that Usenet isnt more popular. Just think about it - the instant dissemination of information to servers all across the world. There is no need to look hard for censored posts and content -its all right here. Over 100,000 connection points to the Usenet network exist. Usenet remains the best social media network out there. That simple.

And there exist Usenet/Facebook like platforms like Mastodon and Diaspora in which people can get Facebook-like and Twitter-like functionality while still maintaining the decentralized properties of Usenet. So there is no excuse for people not to try these platforms.

Faux Dameron

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May 21, 2020, 3:01:08 PM5/21/20
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The decentralized aspect of Usenet is one of its strongest features. I
think this should be our main push for why it is still important and a
valuable resource. Why get tied to a single company like Reddit when it
can go down at any time and then its gone? The text-based simplicity of
Usenet means that archives can last indefinitely but once the databases
at Reddit are gone because the company shuts down, they are gone for good
unless someone just happened to safe a few screenshots or text dump.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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May 22, 2020, 12:20:44 PM5/22/20
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This gave me a boner.

ldpshddtti

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Aug 30, 2022, 1:14:31 PM8/30/22
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Simp <si...@email.invalid> writes:

> It doesnt make any sense to me how people prefer a
> Socialist-controlled centralized social media network in which
> opinions are controlled and removed over a free speech network like
> Usenet in which information can flow and disseminate quickly and
> easily. I dont need Facebook. I dont need Instagram. These companies
> exist to control America through brainwashing and fake news.
>

I agree. But I think what these platforms have over USENET is the sheer
convenience of getting and using one. Social media websites have
perfected the low-effort, addictive UX design to the point that it's so
seamless and effortless to use it instead of other platforms.

> If you dont like a specific news server, you can just go on another
> one and interact with the Usenet network. If you dont like Facebook,
> you cant communicate with the Facebook network without having a FB
> account.
>
> While other networks come and go, Usenet survives.

I agree, this is one of USENET's greatest strengths. Its design is very
resilient. Discussions are hard to censor and there's little to no
moderation. Inevitably, this led to low-effort spamming, but I don't
think it takes that much effort to remove these spam.

>
> Its a shame (or a pleasure) that Usenet isnt more popular. Just think
> about it - the instant dissemination of information to servers all
> across the world. There is no need to look hard for censored posts and
> content -its all right here. Over 100,000 connection points to the
> Usenet network exist. Usenet remains the best social media network out
> there. That simple.
>
> And there exist Usenet/Facebook like platforms like Mastodon and
> Diaspora in which people can get Facebook-like and Twitter-like
> functionality while still maintaining the decentralized properties of
> Usenet. So there is no excuse for people not to try these platforms.

While Mastodon and Diaspora are "federated" it still not as resilient as
USENET. For example, it is impossible to "carry over" user data, history
and nyms on Mastodon without explicit action on the part of the
sysadmin. This can be an issue in cases where users are banned in an
instance for "undesirable speech".

In USENET, since there's no "user data", you can either be an anonymous
joe or use PGP to create a sort-of persistent nym that can exist outside
a service provider's control. That way, even if your service provider
cuts you off for undesirable speech, you can still verifably prove to
other people that you are who you claim to be.

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